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Like @collegehockeyaddict said the game got out of hand so quickly that in my opinion you can't even grade the final two periods on a normal curve. The only play that was objectively bad was Faber getting too cute in his own zone on the PK. And I am not too worried about him going forward lol.

 

Gopher sweep, stick tap salute, and a teddy bear toss to end the weekend!

 

This reminded me of something about the 6-5 three on three OT lose to Arizona State that I was going to mention at the time but got distracted and never did.

For most of that game they actually played better than the night before when they beat ASU (and coach said this after the game) but a few costly turnovers where the difference.

Thomas the 7th defensemen had two costly turnovers that resulted in goals including one with just over 4 minutes left in regulation that tied the game. If coach was only playing 6 defensemen like most teams do that game could have ended as a pretty comfortable 5-3 win rather then going to OT tied at 5-5.

If our weakness is our 7th defensemen we are in pretty good shape and playing talented freshmen like Thomas is normally the best way for them to improve.

Like you said we are in good hands with Faber and nobody is perfect. 

 

 

 

Was at the game and it was LaCombe who turned the puck over for the 5-5 game tying goal. Makes it worse. 

 


   
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I was laughing at the Chesley goal last night. A D-man wide open 15ft from the goalie in the slot, easy pass from Cooley with no one around and he slammed it home. No mercy. That goalie had no chance. He was just praying it hit him. 

Seeing how hard the shot was he was probably praying it would miss him ? 

 


   
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Was at the game and it was LaCombe who turned the puck over for the 5-5 game tying goal. Makes it worse. 

This link shows highlight videos of both games.

https://www.houseofsparky.com/2022/11/27/23480355/asu-hockey-clips-and-highlights-from-weekend-series-split-vs-no-2-minnesota

The highlight video for the second game at the 6:04 mark shows the turnover and tying goal. Jackson Lacombe #2 is not the defensemen who is along the boards turning the puck over.

After the game on this board multiple people where suggesting replacing Thomas due to turnovers costing multiple goals. During the game it was mentioned that it was Thomas who made this turnover. While the video doesn't show the number of the defensemen along the boards all the signs point to it being Thomas. It clearly isn't Lacombe since he is shown in the video away from the turnover.

 


   
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So...about the thought of Wisco being resurgent because they won 5 of the last 6 and split with a Michigan team that's still looking for its post-Pearson identity...Yeah, maybe not.

In all seriousness, tBob was not happy during the postgame.  In so many words, he said we didn't play anywhere near as good of a game as the score indicates and given the number of shots we gave up and how many brilliant saves Close had to make, it's hard to disagree.  He said described us as "loose" like he did for ASU weekend, but fortunately Wisco is not ASU (Never thought I'd say that).  Let's dial things back up Saturday and waffle stomp them back to Madison.

Close was great and it easily could have wound up 7-4 without that last night. That’s still a win though. I get what Bob is trying to do. Doesn’t want them getting too proud of themselves and continuing the loose play into this game and winding up with a split at home against the basement dwellers. 

 

Gophers far and away the better team, but honestly I'm glad to see Motzko not too giddy about the win. Teams like Minnesota can score in bunches, and that's a rush in front of your home crowd. But when your captain tries to lead a rush out of his own zone on a penalty kill and the puck ends up in his own net, you have to call a spade a spade. That made it a 2-1 game against a team that had no business keeping it close.

All's well that ends well, but Motzko needs this team to play the game the right way no matter who they're playing.

All that said, it was awesome see the Badgers get pounded last night : )

 

 

It was 2-1 halfway through period one.  I think you are being a bit melodramatic.  They got a PP goal to kill our dominating momentum at like the 10 minute mark of the game but what was the score at the end of that period? (Hint: 4-1 so not "keeping it close" )

I would agree if it was 2-1 halfway through the 2nd period but at the 10 minute mark of the first?  Sorry but most teams can keep it close that long. 

 

Using a future event, such as a 4-1 score advantage at the end of the period, to excuse or minimize a mental mistake that cut their lead in half ten minutes earlier is a terribly flawed argument.  Looking at it from the other end of the stick, if the momentum had turned at that point and Wisconsin went on to tie it up or even come out of that period up by a goal, does that make Faber's mistake worse? No. It's the same. 

I'm guessing the coaches didn't break down the film with Faber this morning by adding, "No big deal. We were up 4-1 by the end of the period. Wisconsin wasn't going to keep it close anyway." Motzko himself rightly grumbled that the score was not indicative of the play on the ice and that Close had to be very sharp last night. The Gophers gave up too many scoring chances last night to the Badgers, who managed to put, what, 37 shots on net?

In addition to Faber's gaffe and other defensemen miscues, there are plenty of other examples from last night's game, not least getting pick pocketed high inside the Wisconsin blue line a half dozen times or more. Then again, the score ended up 7-1, so no reason for the coaches to get prickly, right?!

The way the Gophers played last night reminded me of those highly skilled teams the Wooger had...they were crowd pleasers for sure...who lost every year in the tournament to disciplined teams who clamped down on them defensively just waiting for a mistake to capitalize on.

Personally, I'll take the way they played at Michigan State last weekend. Minnesota was the defense-oriented team who capitalized on opportunities...eleven times! 

 


   
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Was at the game and it was LaCombe who turned the puck over for the 5-5 game tying goal. Makes it worse. 

This link shows highlight videos of both games.

https://www.houseofsparky.com/2022/11/27/23480355/asu-hockey-clips-and-highlights-from-weekend-series-split-vs-no-2-minnesota

The highlight video for the second game at the 6:04 mark shows the turnover and tying goal. Jackson Lacombe #2 is not the defensemen who is along the boards turning the puck over.

After the game on this board multiple people where suggesting replacing Thomas due to turnovers costing multiple goals. During the game it was mentioned that it was Thomas who made this turnover. While the video doesn't show the number of the defensemen along the boards all the signs point to it being Thomas. It clearly isn't Lacombe since he is shown in the video away from the turnover.

 

If my memory serves me correctly LaCombe gave him a crappy pass that put Thomas in a bad position but whatever I’m over it

 


   
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People are really going to make a big deal out of 18 and 19 years olds having some fun while up 5-1 on their biggest rival?

Yes they gave up 16 shots in the 2nd period which is too much but they scored 4 minutes into the period to go up 5-1 and 9 minutes into the period to go up 6-1. The game was already over. The last 35 minutes of the game were just for fun. Of course coach is going to called it like he saw it and want the team to grind harder for longer but it was a game where it wasn't needed. Yes if they were playing a better team this style doesn't work but they didn't play like that in the first period they good loose when the game got to 5-1.

Also in the 3rd period the shots were 12-10 so pretty even.

Yes coaches and fans want their team to always play their A game but it's not realistic especially with a young team. This was a game as fans where IMO we should just sit back and enjoy all the goals and not worry about the looseness after all the team realized early in the 2nd period it was a game they could have some fun with so as fans IMO we should too.  

Coaches love to win and have things to complain about to keep on their team and this team is good enough where we are going to see this a lot from coach he will continue to find something to complain about even when they win big.

I like the saying don't allow the drive for greatness keep you from enjoying the journey. This season has already been great and the second half is going to be A LOT of fun so why not sit back and enjoy the ride? Coach gets to worry about the things to work on no need for me to.

As Minnesota sports fans it seems like we tend to always worry about the other shoe dropping since normally it does but this team almost certainly is going to have a really good season and IMO this is true whether they win the last four or not.

 

I think Bob is more upset about it than any fans I’ve seen.  

 


   
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Posted by: @snowcool08

I was laughing at the Chesley goal last night. A D-man wide open 15ft from the goalie in the slot, easy pass from Cooley with no one around and he slammed it home. No mercy. That goalie had no chance. He was just praying it hit him. 

Seeing how hard the shot was he was probably praying it would miss him ? 

 

 

This team has quite a few snipers which make them really fun to watch. In their last 7 games they've scored 37 goals (5.4 goals per game). 

They lead the county in goals with 80. Only 3 other teams have passed 70 goals.

In their last 12 games they are 10-1 in regulation with one 3 on 3 OT loss out scoring their opponents by a combined score of 53-25.

 

 


   




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Did anyone else have Johnny Pohl flashbacks on Rhett Pitlick's goal?  

Tink and in off the far post from a shallow angle, snipe central.

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Did anyone else have Johnny Pohl flashbacks on Rhett Pitlick's goal?  

Tink and in off the far post from a shallow angle, snipe central.

watching highlights when we got home, it appeared that shot deflected off Moe and then hit the pipe and in. 
either way, this is why you shoot for the stringy thing, every chance you get!  Can’t score if you don’t shoot! 

 


   
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Using a future event, such as a 4-1 score advantage at the end of the period, to excuse or minimize a mental mistake that cut their lead in half ten minutes earlier is a terribly flawed argument.  Looking at it from the other end of the stick, if the momentum had turned at that point and Wisconsin went on to tie it up or even come out of that period up by a goal, does that make Faber's mistake worse? No. It's the same. 

I'm guessing the coaches didn't break down the film with Faber this morning by adding, "No big deal. We were up 4-1 by the end of the period. Wisconsin wasn't going to keep it close anyway." Motzko himself rightly grumbled that the score was not indicative of the play on the ice and that Close had to be very sharp last night. The Gophers gave up too many scoring chances last night to the Badgers, who managed to put, what, 37 shots on net?

In addition to Faber's gaffe and other defensemen miscues, there are plenty of other examples from last night's game, not least getting pick pocketed high inside the Wisconsin blue line a half dozen times or more. Then again, the score ended up 7-1, so no reason for the coaches to get prickly, right?!

The way the Gophers played last night reminded me of those highly skilled teams the Wooger had...they were crowd pleasers for sure...who lost every year in the tournament to disciplined teams who clamped down on them defensively just waiting for a mistake to capitalize on.

Personally, I'll take the way they played at Michigan State last weekend. Minnesota was the defense-oriented team who capitalized on opportunities...eleven times! 

 

Of course every coach and most fans prefer how they played last weekend against Michigan State after all the first 5 periods of that series were 9-0 and they were locking down Sparty but no team can play that well all the time.

Yes the Faber mistake in the 1st period was bad. Is he never allowed to make a mistake? Nobody is perfect. I am willing to bet coach didn't break down the film of that goal with Faber. Faber is an incredibly smart player he knows the mistake he made.

Yes the team got loose up 5-1 and coach mentioned that. Wow are some people focusing a lot on things that happened when the game was already over.

On the plus side an added benefit to last night was the extra work Close got. There are games where he doesn't get a lot of work (like the first 5 periods against Michigan State) so a game like last night gave him a change to work on his game.

 


   
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The Gophers are tied for 11th in the country at 2.4 goals per game given up. This is also trending upwards over the last 12 games they've given up 25 goals (2.1 goals per game). 

Close has started 15 games this season in 7 (so almost half) of them the team has given up zero or one goal. He has a 2.04 goals against average and a saves percentage of 92.4

 

 


   
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Posted by: @collegehockeyaddict

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Using a future event, such as a 4-1 score advantage at the end of the period, to excuse or minimize a mental mistake that cut their lead in half ten minutes earlier is a terribly flawed argument.  Looking at it from the other end of the stick, if the momentum had turned at that point and Wisconsin went on to tie it up or even come out of that period up by a goal, does that make Faber's mistake worse? No. It's the same. 

I'm guessing the coaches didn't break down the film with Faber this morning by adding, "No big deal. We were up 4-1 by the end of the period. Wisconsin wasn't going to keep it close anyway." Motzko himself rightly grumbled that the score was not indicative of the play on the ice and that Close had to be very sharp last night. The Gophers gave up too many scoring chances last night to the Badgers, who managed to put, what, 37 shots on net?

In addition to Faber's gaffe and other defensemen miscues, there are plenty of other examples from last night's game, not least getting pick pocketed high inside the Wisconsin blue line a half dozen times or more. Then again, the score ended up 7-1, so no reason for the coaches to get prickly, right?!

The way the Gophers played last night reminded me of those highly skilled teams the Wooger had...they were crowd pleasers for sure...who lost every year in the tournament to disciplined teams who clamped down on them defensively just waiting for a mistake to capitalize on.

Personally, I'll take the way they played at Michigan State last weekend. Minnesota was the defense-oriented team who capitalized on opportunities...eleven times! 

 

Of course every coach and most fans prefer how they played last weekend against Michigan State after all the first 5 periods of that series were 9-0 and they were locking down Sparty but no team can play that well all the time.

Yes the Faber mistake in the 1st period was bad. Is he never allowed to make a mistake? Nobody is perfect. I am willing to bet coach didn't break down the film of that goal with Faber. Faber is an incredibly smart player he knows the mistake he made.

Yes the team got loose up 5-1 and coach mentioned that. Wow are some people focusing a lot on things that happened when the game was already over.

On the plus side an added benefit to last night was the extra work Close got. There are games where he doesn't get a lot of work (like the first 5 periods against Michigan State) so a game like last night gave him a change to work on his game.

 

 I don't see anybody chicken littling the team. Just good teaching moments. You can make mistakes against some teams an get away with it, but it's better to practice and play the same mindset every time out.

 


   
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Posted by: @streakygopher

Posted by: @collegehockeyaddict

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Using a future event, such as a 4-1 score advantage at the end of the period, to excuse or minimize a mental mistake that cut their lead in half ten minutes earlier is a terribly flawed argument.  Looking at it from the other end of the stick, if the momentum had turned at that point and Wisconsin went on to tie it up or even come out of that period up by a goal, does that make Faber's mistake worse? No. It's the same. 

I'm guessing the coaches didn't break down the film with Faber this morning by adding, "No big deal. We were up 4-1 by the end of the period. Wisconsin wasn't going to keep it close anyway." Motzko himself rightly grumbled that the score was not indicative of the play on the ice and that Close had to be very sharp last night. The Gophers gave up too many scoring chances last night to the Badgers, who managed to put, what, 37 shots on net?

In addition to Faber's gaffe and other defensemen miscues, there are plenty of other examples from last night's game, not least getting pick pocketed high inside the Wisconsin blue line a half dozen times or more. Then again, the score ended up 7-1, so no reason for the coaches to get prickly, right?!

The way the Gophers played last night reminded me of those highly skilled teams the Wooger had...they were crowd pleasers for sure...who lost every year in the tournament to disciplined teams who clamped down on them defensively just waiting for a mistake to capitalize on.

Personally, I'll take the way they played at Michigan State last weekend. Minnesota was the defense-oriented team who capitalized on opportunities...eleven times! 

 

Of course every coach and most fans prefer how they played last weekend against Michigan State after all the first 5 periods of that series were 9-0 and they were locking down Sparty but no team can play that well all the time.

Yes the Faber mistake in the 1st period was bad. Is he never allowed to make a mistake? Nobody is perfect. I am willing to bet coach didn't break down the film of that goal with Faber. Faber is an incredibly smart player he knows the mistake he made.

Yes the team got loose up 5-1 and coach mentioned that. Wow are some people focusing a lot on things that happened when the game was already over.

On the plus side an added benefit to last night was the extra work Close got. There are games where he doesn't get a lot of work (like the first 5 periods against Michigan State) so a game like last night gave him a change to work on his game.

 

 I don't see anybody chicken littling the team. Just good teaching moments. You can make mistakes against some teams an get away with it, but it's better to practice and play the same mindset every time out.

 

 

yep. Make mistakes now and learn from them if you’re going to make them and grow heading towards season end. This team is still getting better (which is scary for our opposition). Last night was also that WI decided they were going to try play fire wagon hockey with us and they definitely don’t have the guns to compete with us in that type of game, but it is where some of the chances are going to come from

 


   
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Posted by: @streakygopher

The way the Gophers played last night reminded me of those highly skilled teams the Wooger had...they were crowd pleasers for sure...who lost every year in the tournament to disciplined teams who clamped down on them defensively just waiting for a mistake to capitalize on.

 

It was this part. ? 

The Gopher defensemen (I choice not to mention his name I've tried to forget ? ) in the 1989 National Champions game hit the post in OT. IMO people don't make statements like this about Woog teams if that puck is an inch over. Oh well in the end it doesn't matter since it is what it is. I have MANY fond memories of Doug Woog & his teams and choose not criticize his teams for not winning a National Champions especially since they were soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo close.

 


   




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gophers have outscored the Badddgers 15-1 in the last 2 games played against each other

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There is apparently a student Christmas pub crawl happening on campus and has suddenly filled stub and herbs.  Should I tell these kids it was a bad idea to wear white and red shirts?   Bad planning.  ?


   
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There is apparently a student Christmas pub crawl happening on campus and has suddenly filled stub and herbs.  Should I tell these kids it was a bad idea to wear white and red shirts?   Bad planning.  ?

I sure hope the red and white isn't vertical stripes. ? If so you should call them popcorn boxes (like Bucky). Also if any of them are going to the game makes sure they change shirts beforehand. ? 

 


   
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There is apparently a student Christmas pub crawl happening on campus and has suddenly filled stub and herbs.  Should I tell these kids it was a bad idea to wear white and red shirts?   Bad planning.  ?

I sure hope the red and white isn't vertical stripes. ? If so you should call them popcorn boxes (like Bucky). Also if any of them are going to the game makes sure they change shirts beforehand. ? 

 

 

nah just white with red graphics. 

we thought it was slow normally to get food and drinks - it is a veritable shit show tonight.  
our friends have been waiting almost an hour for their drinks and food.  

 


   
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People must be all out and about today. Was at Northern Taphouse (nee Grizzly's) in Plymouth today, at opening, and usually there are half a dozen people. By noon, there was a 20 minute wait for a table. No idea why. 

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Apparently an event sponsored by truly for anyone over 21.  


   




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The Gophers get two penalties on the same play while on the power play. ? I don't think I've ever seen that. This gives the Badgers a minute of 4 on 3 and then a minute of 5 on 3. 


   
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Badgers score on the 5 on 3.

1-0 Badgers.


   
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Questionable. So was the offside. 


   
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Gophers need to shoot the puck.  Too much one on one stuff.


   
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Were the Gophers eating Turkey and at the pool earlier today?

Let's get moving guys!


   
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Faber gets a 2 minute rough. Badger player gets 5 minute major for head butting. The Gophers will get 3 minutes of power play after the 2 minutes of 4 on 4. Not a smart play at all by the Badger player.


   
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That head butting call is terrible. His head moved forward because Faber pulled his jersey. 


   




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Not necessarily for this thread but….

I’ve been thinking…I wonder where Jaxson Nelson sits relative to number and/or percentage of face off wins for all time Gophers?

the kid wins a ton of face offs!  He’s $$ on the draws.

anyone have visibility to stats to confirm all time draw leaders?


   
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Pitlick!!!!! on the 4 on 4 cuts the Badger lead to 2-1.


   
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Snuggy!!!!!!!!!!!! on the Power Play ties it at 2


   
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That head butting call is terrible. His head moved forward because Faber pulled his jersey. 

Agree, what a bogus call! lol. Flipped the momentum & 2 Snuggy goals later it’s 2-2 and Gophers have a 3 minute power play coming up…?

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Not sure I have ever seen headbutting called before...


   
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Oh my!!@


   
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Luke Millelstadt at the buzzer will it count?


   




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I honestly can't tell ? 


   
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YES!!!!! Gophers up 3-2 after one period.


   
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It counts unbelievable!!!


   
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lol Brodz with a sweet pass…for those who wanted him playing 4th line 7-8 weeks ago…LMAO


   
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3 goals in 2:22 to take the lead...crazy!


   
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Amazing how close that shot was to being after time expired. Also amazing these refs didn’t screw it up. 


   
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Posted by: @bearpaw28

lol Brodz with a sweet pass…for those who wanted him playing 4th line 7-8 weeks ago…LMAO

 

I honestly wanted him to shoot I figured a pass kills the clock.  That's why he has a scholarship and I work for a living 😉

 


   
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The play Cal Thomas made on the first goal. *chef's kiss*


   
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Posted by: @collegehockeyaddict

The play Cal Thomas made on the first goal. *chef's kiss*

He lost his top hand, regains contr of the stick and threads a perfect pass...not something you see often. 

 


   
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What the hell did I just watch


   
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I bet people were ready to fold the program before that 5 minute major huh


   
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@bigbeer That was a really weak call. If anything should have been offsetting minors.


   
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Posted by: @bearpaw28

lol Brodz with a sweet pass…for those who wanted him playing 4th line 7-8 weeks ago…LMAO

Brodz sucks. ?

 


   
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The chippy play is what teams are going to do against us the rest of the season.  Get us off the game, slow the game down and hope the refs give them a break and power plays, especially after a Gopher player retaliates like Cooley tonight.

The major penalty was a major penalty. Obvious head butt.

 


   




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Nevers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4-2


   
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