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Stupid ways to display hockey conference standings. For example in the Big Ten right now (I've trimmed out the overall stats, just need the Conference here)
B1G Website:
PTS GP PTS% W L T OW-OL SW
1 Minnesota Golden Gophers 24 8 1.000 8 0 0 0-0 0
2 Wisconsin Badgers 16 8 .667 5 3 0 0-1 0
USCHO:
W-L-T-SO-OW-OL Pct Pts
Minnesota 8-0-0-0-0-0 1.000 24
Wisconsin 5-3-0-0-0-1 0.667 16
Both have different ways of showing the SO/OT wins/losses, but include those losses in the regular loss column, then add them again later in their own column. You have to try to figure out how you're meant to add up the points.
Our own Giant Planet's much more sane version:
Pos Team Reg Win OT/SO Win Reg Loss OT/SO Loss PTS GP
1 Minnesota 8 0 0 0 24 8
2 Wisconsin 5 0 2 1 16 8
Every game shows up one time. The number of games shown matches the games played with no messing around. Why is this so difficult for other sites?
Sorry about the formatting... spaces/tabs/etc don't play nicely.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
Passwords.
Important for sure, but you can’t have the same one for everything because some require a number, a capital, a symbol, a color, the name of your unborn child.....So what do you do? Store them all on your phone cause you can’t remember them all! 
I have my passwords sorted. One password for social media, one for banking/bills, one for email, and one for games and such. Add to that monikers/fake names......
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Important for sure, but you can’t have the same one for everything because some require a number, a capital, a symbol, a color, the name of your unborn child.....So what do you do? Store them all on your phone cause you can’t remember them all!
Use a password manager, like LastPass. That way, you only have to remember a single password.
Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes - Harry S Truman
Important for sure, but you can’t have the same one for everything because some require a number, a capital, a symbol, a color, the name of your unborn child.....So what do you do? Store them all on your phone cause you can’t remember them all!
Use a password manager, like LastPass. That way, you only have to remember a single password.
I also use LastPass. There are several other sites out there that provide the same kind of service.
You generate one really long password (a multi-word phrase that is hard to guess works fine, mine is like 25 characters long) that is used to encrypt the rest of your passwords. Plus, an easy browser extension that fills in for you. App on the phone will fill in even app logon screens, as well as in browsers on the phone.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
I wish credit card swipe machines had universal rules. Some you press green for credit, some you press red for credit. I've even encountered a couple where you press yellow for credit. Can't the manufacturers all agree to have the same color do the same thing.
#firstworldproblem
Important for sure, but you can’t have the same one for everything because some require a number, a capital, a symbol, a color, the name of your unborn child.....So what do you do? Store them all on your phone cause you can’t remember them all!
Use a password manager, like LastPass. That way, you only have to remember a single password.
I also use LastPass. There are several other sites out there that provide the same kind of service.
You generate one really long password (a multi-word phrase that is hard to guess works fine, mine is like 25 characters long) that is used to encrypt the rest of your passwords. Plus, an easy browser extension that fills in for you. App on the phone will fill in even app logon screens, as well as in browsers on the phone.
I've been looking at using LastPass. I have a password application that works like it but only works on my PC. Given I have very strong passwords it does create issues at times if I need something on my phone, but I haven't gotten to the point of a more robust solution yet.
I had to call Fidelity this morning about a transfer I'm trying to initiate to another account and they actually required me to type my password in via their automated system. My password is really long and random (since it involves our financial accounts) so it was annoying to enter. Most places just ask for a pin or something.
Important for sure, but you can’t have the same one for everything because some require a number, a capital, a symbol, a color, the name of your unborn child.....So what do you do? Store them all on your phone cause you can’t remember them all!
Use a password manager, like LastPass. That way, you only have to remember a single password.
I also use LastPass. There are several other sites out there that provide the same kind of service.
You generate one really long password (a multi-word phrase that is hard to guess works fine, mine is like 25 characters long) that is used to encrypt the rest of your passwords. Plus, an easy browser extension that fills in for you. App on the phone will fill in even app logon screens, as well as in browsers on the phone.
I've been looking at using LastPass. I have a password application that works like it but only works on my PC. Given I have very strong passwords it does create issues at times if I need something on my phone, but I haven't gotten to the point of a more robust solution yet.
I had to call Fidelity this morning about a transfer I'm trying to initiate to another account and they actually required me to type my password in via their automated system. My password is really long and random (since it involves our financial accounts) so it was annoying to enter. Most places just ask for a pin or something.
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
I know there's a couple other sites out there that do essentially the same thing, I just ran into LastPass first and it had good reviews, so I ran with it. Makes it easy to have a couple dozen different passwords that look like: @&7Ue7wfY7U4 For me, it works great, as long as I have an internet connection, it works fine, also, you can set LastPass to not only need some ridiculously long (but easy for you to remember) password but add 2 Factor with Google Authenticator (or others that do the same thing)
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
Important for sure, but you can’t have the same one for everything because some require a number, a capital, a symbol, a color, the name of your unborn child.....So what do you do? Store them all on your phone cause you can’t remember them all!
Use a password manager, like LastPass. That way, you only have to remember a single password.
I also use LastPass. There are several other sites out there that provide the same kind of service.
You generate one really long password (a multi-word phrase that is hard to guess works fine, mine is like 25 characters long) that is used to encrypt the rest of your passwords. Plus, an easy browser extension that fills in for you. App on the phone will fill in even app logon screens, as well as in browsers on the phone.
I've been looking at using LastPass. I have a password application that works like it but only works on my PC. Given I have very strong passwords it does create issues at times if I need something on my phone, but I haven't gotten to the point of a more robust solution yet.
I had to call Fidelity this morning about a transfer I'm trying to initiate to another account and they actually required me to type my password in via their automated system. My password is really long and random (since it involves our financial accounts) so it was annoying to enter. Most places just ask for a pin or something.
I use LastPass as well and am pretty happy with it. Just looked it up, I’ve been using it since 2014. You can select countries and it will block access from IPs from other countries (make sure to unlock countries when you travel); I have MFA setup on my master pw; it analyzes if you have the same password on multiple accounts; it will tell you to update passwords that haven’t been updated in a while; it will flag accounts from sites that have had breaches and recommend you update passwords. This functionality exists but I haven’t used it: you can click “auto-change password” and it will login to the site and update the password for you — this works only for some sites.
I’ve heard of people using password managers even for secret questions and having to tell someone on the phone: “my mother’s maiden name? Ok, it’s yBuX*xnEn*$5^WqcW2&9” ?
I’ve heard of people using password managers even for secret questions and having to tell someone on the phone: “my mother’s maiden name? Ok, it’s yBuX*xnEn*$5^WqcW2&9” ?
Is that German?
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
No - the phone automated system you get when you call into their 800 number. I even asked them about this but I’m seriously considering changing my password,
They eventually set it up such that you have to login just like you would on the website
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
No - the phone automated system you get when you call into their 800 number. I even asked them about this but I’m seriously considering changing my password,
They eventually set it up such that you have to login just like you would on the website
That's... ummm... absurd
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
No - the phone automated system you get when you call into their 800 number. I even asked them about this but I’m seriously considering changing my password,
They eventually set it up such that you have to login just like you would on the website
That's... ummm... absurd
It really is. I’m sure it’s secure given lots of other places ask for a voice passcode or PIN number, but I couldn’t believe it when I didn’t have an option to do it another way
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
No - the phone automated system you get when you call into their 800 number. I even asked them about this but I’m seriously considering changing my password,
They eventually set it up such that you have to login just like you would on the website
That's... ummm... absurd
It really is. I’m sure it’s secure given lots of other places ask for a voice passcode or PIN number, but I couldn’t believe it when I didn’t have an option to do it another way
Do they not allow proper passwords with additional characters? How could I punch in Th|$$uc#$ as a password? 
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
No - the phone automated system you get when you call into their 800 number. I even asked them about this but I’m seriously considering changing my password,
They eventually set it up such that you have to login just like you would on the website
That's... ummm... absurd
It really is. I’m sure it’s secure given lots of other places ask for a voice passcode or PIN number, but I couldn’t believe it when I didn’t have an option to do it another way
Do they not allow proper passwords with additional characters? How could I punch in Th|$$uc#$ as a password?
For any special character you use an asterisk. Their password standards are better than a lot of other places. I went and made a bunch of our account passwords more strong and random and don’t recall having to modify the randomly generated ones much with them
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
So... by "automated system" I certainly hope you mean on their website, not the phone?
No - the phone automated system you get when you call into their 800 number. I even asked them about this but I’m seriously considering changing my password,
They eventually set it up such that you have to login just like you would on the website
That's... ummm... absurd
It really is. I’m sure it’s secure given lots of other places ask for a voice passcode or PIN number, but I couldn’t believe it when I didn’t have an option to do it another way
Do they not allow proper passwords with additional characters? How could I punch in Th|$$uc#$ as a password?
For any special character you use an asterisk. Their password standards are better than a lot of other places. I went and made a bunch of our account passwords more strong and random and don’t recall having to modify the randomly generated ones much with them
OH... because THAT'S secure to consolidate 30 or so characters into 1
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
Yeah, I found a random brute force calculator and put in 20 characters of upper/lower/number/special character:
Your password is 20 characters long and has 2,901,062,411,314,618,312,178,035,371,024,110,845,952 combinations.
It takes 56,288,019,042,202,468,671,647,907,840 hours or 2,345,334,126,758,436,194,651,996,160 days to crack your password on computer that trys 25,769,803,776 passwords per hour.
You can up that from 26B per hour to whatever is common now and it’s still an eternity. Plus like Steve said, add a 6 number code that changes every 30 seconds. And, restrict IP addresses so it can’t be guessed from China, Russia, India, etc.
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
Isn't it possible someone could hack LastPass (or whoever) and gain access to all the passwords?
I didn’t realize it changes. I’m the antithesis of a techno geek so most stuff like this really is gibberish to me. 
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
Isn't it possible someone could hack LastPass (or whoever) and gain access to all the passwords?
No. What really happens here (at a high level) is that the password you set is actually an encryption key. When you set a password, that password is encrypted using that "master password" you set and that's what's stored at LastPass.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
Isn't it possible someone could hack LastPass (or whoever) and gain access to all the passwords?
No. What really happens here (at a high level) is that the password you set is actually an encryption key. When you set a password, that password is encrypted using that "master password" you set and that's what's stored at LastPass.
I saw Lastpass has had some security breaches. I guess I don't trust 100% that someone couldn't find some vulnerability in their system. And if they do, they have the keys to the kingdom.
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
Yeah, I found a random brute force calculator and put in 20 characters of upper/lower/number/special character:
Your password is 20 characters long and has 2,901,062,411,314,618,312,178,035,371,024,110,845,952 combinations.
It takes 56,288,019,042,202,468,671,647,907,840 hours or 2,345,334,126,758,436,194,651,996,160 days to crack your password on computer that trys 25,769,803,776 passwords per hour.
You can up that from 26B per hour to whatever is common now and it’s still an eternity. Plus like Steve said, add a 6 number code that changes every 30 seconds. And, restrict IP addresses so it can’t be guessed from China, Russia, India, etc.
For my master password with LastPass, I don't actually use a random string, I use a phrase/sentence that I can remember, that nobody is going to guess, and it being so long means that (as you point out here) brute force is essentially impossible, especially with the MFA random codes needed.
As an example of a Master password for lastpass (obviously not what I use): IgotstuckwithaflattireinOK
So, first off, someone would have to know that I got a flat tire in Oklahoma of all places (which I haven't)... then, they'd have to try to figure out if I added any capitalization in, and whether I spelled out Oklahoma, or just used OK. Then, they'd have to not only know that I experienced that, but that I'd use that specific event for a password.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
What happens when someone finds out that one password used for EVERYTHING?
There's a reason you use a multi-word 20+ character long phrase, combined with Multi-Factor Authentication. Not only would they need to find out some cryptic phrase that only you would know, they also have 30 seconds to guess the right 6 digit, constantly changing, random string of numbers.
Isn't it possible someone could hack LastPass (or whoever) and gain access to all the passwords?
No. What really happens here (at a high level) is that the password you set is actually an encryption key. When you set a password, that password is encrypted using that "master password" you set and that's what's stored at LastPass.
I saw Lastpass has had some security breaches. I guess I don't trust 100% that someone couldn't find some vulnerability in their system. And if they do, they have the keys to the kingdom.
They had one intrusion to their system back in 2015 or so that I know of, but given how the encryption works, it's not something that exposed anything. Before the data goes to LastPass, it's encrypted, so they don't store any un-encrypted data.
More recently, they had an issue with a specific browser-plugin that could interact with a vulnerability in a couple browsers so that if you visited a web-site that had itself been compromised, could lead to problems:
If you're worried about LastPass in particular, there are other systems that do essentially the same thing.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
Not realistically. LastPass doesn't even get a plaintext copy of anything, it's all encrypted, and your master password is the decryption key.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
9:00 PM puck drops
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Reading today’s story on HS hockey and the mask mandate. StarTrib has several photos, in one 6 people are in the bench area...ONE person is wearing their mask correctly. In another photo of actual play the mask looks attached to the inside of the face cage, there is clear air space all around the kids face! The blatant disregard to actually follow the rules is disappointing, gaming the system seems to be the norm.
I guess when a crap load of players test positive and it all shuts down again they “might” rethink their selfishness, but I doubt it.
What have I got? I got no snacks and I got no respect.
Travis-age 6
Those masks that attach to the cage are certified and approved. Our hockey association bought one for every player in our association.
Those masks that attach to the cage are certified and approved. Our hockey association bought one for every player in our association.
But how is that effective? Open space around the mouth and nose allows particles to escape, that makes no sense at all. I’m just really curious, certified and approved by who? A hockey association or a medical one? I can’t believe that this would be acceptable in any other situation. Holding a mask 2 inches in front of your face isn’t going to fly entering a store, a plane, a doctors office. I’m not being argumentative, I’m just really confused over how this is being safe.
What have I got? I got no snacks and I got no respect.
Travis-age 6
HockeyBum is correct in that some of the masks that attach to the cage are approved. My kids wear the CCM version and is does fit fairly well to the face.
That said if Kelly Red is talking about the BSM player on the right of the photo at the top of the article, he is clearly not wearing the mask as intended/approved. It looks like this kid somehow attached the mask to fit tight to the mask and away form the face.
They should fit like the kid second from right in this photo, not like the kid at the far right.
This! There was also an Edina player where I actually thought the mask was on the outside of his helmet cage! There was clear space around his entire face.
I have to believe no one is that dumb and instead it’s rebellion/lip service about the mandate.
What have I got? I got no snacks and I got no respect.
Travis-age 6
Without penalty consequences and having to play a man short it's entirely predictable that kids will not play by the "rules".
Without penalty consequences and having to play a man short it's entirely predictable that kids will not play by the "rules".
Who is supposed to enforce the rule? The coach only?
I coach my son's traveling soccer team and it was on the coaches to make sure protocols were being followed. So you can imagine some teams followed and some didn't.
Without penalty consequences and having to play a man short it's entirely predictable that kids will not play by the "rules".
Who is supposed to enforce the rule? The coach only?
I coach my son's traveling soccer team and it was on the coaches to make sure protocols were being followed. So you can imagine some teams followed and some didn't.
I think that's the point. In hockey, you can get called a minor penalty for not playing with proper equipment. Tell the refs that every time a player takes the ice without the mask as decided by the league, that gets called. For Soccer, start issuing yellow cards. Without any penalty, how do you enforce it? Start calling penalties.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
HockeyBum is correct in that some of the masks that attach to the cage are approved. My kids wear the CCM version and is does fit fairly well to the face.
That said if Kelly Red is talking about the BSM player on the right of the photo at the top of the article, he is clearly not wearing the mask as intended/approved. It looks like this kid somehow attached the mask to fit tight to the mask and away form the face.
They should fit like the kid second from right in this photo, not like the kid at the far right.
All I see in that first photo is a bunch of chin diapers.
As a referee we are told to ask them to put it on correctly, but we are not the "Mask Police". I will tell coaches to put theirs on and if they dont we put it in the scorebook and notify different people depending on which district its in. In 8 it's the head referee and 6 is the referee supervisor. In 6 the coach will get a $500 fine for not wearing his/her mask. Kids do not have that. They will be disciplined in other ways. In 8 is a suspension that is progressive.
This! There was also an Edina player where I actually thought the mask was on the outside of his helmet cage! There was clear space around his entire face.
I have to believe no one is that dumb and instead it’s rebellion/lip service about the mandate.
The problem with having the mask against the cage is lack of visibility. I would be more worried about my kid having his head down and getting a neck injury with the Covid mask against the cage.
But how is that effective? Open space around the mouth and nose allows particles to escape, that makes no sense at all. I’m just really curious, certified and approved by who? A hockey association or a medical one? I can’t believe that this would be acceptable in any other situation. Holding a mask 2 inches in front of your face isn’t going to fly entering a store, a plane, a doctors office. I’m not being argumentative, I’m just really confused over how this is being safe.
Minnesota Department of Health approved the CCM and Bauer face masks.
But how is that effective? Open space around the mouth and nose allows particles to escape, that makes no sense at all. I’m just really curious, certified and approved by who? A hockey association or a medical one? I can’t believe that this would be acceptable in any other situation. Holding a mask 2 inches in front of your face isn’t going to fly entering a store, a plane, a doctors office. I’m not being argumentative, I’m just really confused over how this is being safe.
Minnesota Department of Health approved the CCM and Bauer face masks.
Thank you for the info. I guess they just need to be worn correctly :biggrin2:
What have I got? I got no snacks and I got no respect.
Travis-age 6
But how is that effective? Open space around the mouth and nose allows particles to escape, that makes no sense at all. I’m just really curious, certified and approved by who? A hockey association or a medical one? I can’t believe that this would be acceptable in any other situation. Holding a mask 2 inches in front of your face isn’t going to fly entering a store, a plane, a doctors office. I’m not being argumentative, I’m just really confused over how this is being safe.
Minnesota Department of Health approved the CCM and Bauer face masks.
Thank you for the info. I guess they just need to be worn correctly :biggrin2:
Like every other mask.
It’s amazing to me how many restaurants can’t get a takeout order correct. It seems to happen where one or more of our orders isn’t correct every 2-3 weeks.
It’s amazing to me how many restaurants can’t get a takeout order correct. It seems to happen where one or more of our orders isn’t correct every 2-3 weeks.
A lot of times, especially when it’s busy, a host/hostess is putting together to go orders, and that’s most likely gonna be a high schooler.
The 90 minute limit for reservations that most places have put in place. Thankfully, there are work-arounds. I want to watch the Bills game next week at a local pub. NFL games are about 3 hours. Thankfully figured out a solution. The friends I'll be watching the game with, well, I made one reservation at 5:30 (kickoff is 5:40), and one of the others made a reservation for 7pm. Might have to switch tables, but it's silly that there is a limit, if a customer is buying drinks/snacks/etc the whole time.
Up in Houghton last year, the Ambassador had an hour limit after your last purchase was made, IIRC. That makes more sense.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
When the smoke alarm in your bedroom decides that 2am is the perfect time to alert you that it’s battery is low.
When the smoke alarm in your bedroom decides that 2am is the perfect time to alert you that it’s battery is low.
That’s the worst! I had one go off for no apparent reason once that woke me out of a dead sleep. I’ve never jumped out of bed or had my heart pounding so fast!
When the smoke alarm in your bedroom decides that 2am is the perfect time to alert you that it’s battery is low.
That’s the worst! I had one go off for no apparent reason once that woke me out of a dead sleep. I’ve never jumped out of bed or had my heart pounding so fast!
We once had our alarm system screaming in the middle of the night. I was expecting to be attacked. Read that as crapping my pants. I could not figure out the alarm code on the display. Turned out to be a low battery due to a blown fuse.
Nothing like having to walk down the stairs at 3 am wondering in a burglar is going to try to kill you.
The only good news is the alarm is on the same circuit as our chest freezer so I guess I don't have to worry about losing a bunch of expensive meat....
When the smoke alarm in your bedroom decides that 2am is the perfect time to alert you that it’s battery is low.
Smoke alarms have secret coding that restricts the battery alarm from going off outside the hours off between 2 and 4 a.m.
FACT!!