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Posted by: @karlsson

I’m ready for this series in Baltimore to end. 

I'm anxious for the Twins to realize the series started.

 

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What excuses will the Pohlads come up with this season?


   
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What excuses will the Pohlads come up with this season?

Do they ever feel the need to provide excuses?  I thought they just had their GM people tell the media, they have a budget they must adhere to and this is what we got.

 


   
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What's bizarre about the Twins and their payroll is that they're the one pro team in town that is most impacted attendance wise when they suck.  The days of averaging 30k-plus per game even with a sub-.500 record are long gone. Even in 2019 when they won 101 games they only averaged 28k. 


   
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What's bizarre about the Twins and their payroll is that they're the one pro team in town that is most impacted attendance wise when they suck.  The days of averaging 30k-plus per game even with a sub-.500 record are long gone. Even in 2019 when they won 101 games they only averaged 28k. 

Agree 100%…just another brick in the wall on why they’re the worst pro sports owners in the TC by a mile! 

 


   
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Other than trying to avoid a repeat of the next David Ortiz, I’m still trying to wrap my head around buxton and 200 million they felt was justified. Or 100 million whatever it is


   
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What's bizarre about the Twins and their payroll is that they're the one pro team in town that is most impacted attendance wise when they suck.  The days of averaging 30k-plus per game even with a sub-.500 record are long gone. Even in 2019 when they won 101 games they only averaged 28k. 

Agree 100%…just another brick in the wall on why they’re the worst pro sports owners in the TC by a mile! 

On top of that even should a franchise lose money...

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-billionaire-playbook-how-sports-owners-use-their-teams-to-avoid-millions-in-taxes

Yet I don't think they're losing money anyway: https://www.forbes.com/teams/minnesota-twins/?sh=10bd5a8c3bae

And there's this: What Ever Happened to 50% of Revenue for Payroll?

What might a team make beyond the revenue sharing and TV deal?  We can estimate that by looking at the Braves and see they made $528 million in 2023 due to their public disclosures as part of Liberty Media.  We also know that the Braves TV Deal is for $68 million a year so if you subtract that and the $200 million in revenue sharing you get $260 million in stadium, licensing, merchandise, etc… revenue.  With the Twin Cities metro area roughly being 60% the size of the Braves let’s assume that the Twins can only generate 60% of the same baseball revenue ($260*60%=$156 million).  The Twins are looking at $396 million in revenue based on this model and are spending only 30% on payroll.  

The franchise as of March was evaluated to be worth $1.46B and was purchased for $44M.  It's a complete joke. 

 


   
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Last year Dan gladden told a story (one of many) about when he was playing for the twins and it was either in warmup or the 3rd out of the inning he threw a ball up to a fan in the stands and he was told by the gm or owner that those balls are expensive and we’re not about just giving things away. No joke. I wanna say it was a preseason game he was announcing and I don’t know why he felt the need to bring it up especially on air but when I heard that my thought was he might get talked to about it, not that he probably cared, and that seriously it made me feel like never going to another game. I don’t get it, and Dan even said, isn’t that what being at the ballpark is about? Memories that stick with you to make you wanna come back?


   
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I was today years old when I found out about this, and yes, I pre-bought:
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Posted by: @slap-shot

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What's bizarre about the Twins and their payroll is that they're the one pro team in town that is most impacted attendance wise when they suck.  The days of averaging 30k-plus per game even with a sub-.500 record are long gone. Even in 2019 when they won 101 games they only averaged 28k. 

Agree 100%…just another brick in the wall on why they’re the worst pro sports owners in the TC by a mile! 

On top of that even should a franchise lose money...

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-billionaire-playbook-how-sports-owners-use-their-teams-to-avoid-millions-in-taxes

Yet I don't think they're losing money anyway: https://www.forbes.com/teams/minnesota-twins/?sh=10bd5a8c3bae

And there's this: What Ever Happened to 50% of Revenue for Payroll?

What might a team make beyond the revenue sharing and TV deal?  We can estimate that by looking at the Braves and see they made $528 million in 2023 due to their public disclosures as part of Liberty Media.  We also know that the Braves TV Deal is for $68 million a year so if you subtract that and the $200 million in revenue sharing you get $260 million in stadium, licensing, merchandise, etc… revenue.  With the Twin Cities metro area roughly being 60% the size of the Braves let’s assume that the Twins can only generate 60% of the same baseball revenue ($260*60%=$156 million).  The Twins are looking at $396 million in revenue based on this model and are spending only 30% on payroll.  

The franchise as of March was evaluated to be worth $1.46B and was purchased for $44M.  It's a complete joke. 

 

 

I love that the Braves are publicly traded and their disclosures are public.  

 

 

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Stupid White Sox. Keeping me from saying “Well this season couldn’t start worse.”


   
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Stupid White Sox. Keeping me from saying “Well this season couldn’t start worse.”

Twins had a nice rally in the 9th today but came up short.

 


   
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Stupid White Sox. Keeping me from saying “Well this season couldn’t start worse.”

Twins had a nice rally in the 9th today but came up short.

 

They lost 1-6!?

 

 


   
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The Twins give up two runs in the top of 8th to fall behind 5-2 but Trevor Larnach hits a 2 run homer in the bottom of 8th, Buxton leads of the bottom 9th with a home run to tie it and then two outs later Kirillof drives in the winning run with a single (after a Santana walk and Jeffers pitch hit double).

Buxton over his last 4 games is 7 for 16 with 3 doubles and a home run.

Larnach was called up a little over a week ago and is 7 for 20 a batting average of .350, an on base % of .417, a slugging % of .750 resulting in an OPS of 1.167

The Twins have now won 2 straight and 3 of the last 4.

 


   
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The White Sox are also on pace to be one of the worst teams ever assembled. They were shut out in 8 of their first 22 games and I believe after blowing the game last night they are 3-20 on the season.

 

Nice get-right series for the Twins but Castro, Santana, Farmer, and Vazquez still need to figure out how to hit (I think the 4 of them are all hitting at or below .175) or they'll be out of a job here sooner than later (maybe not Vazquez since he's a catcher and they like to rotate him and Jeffers). 


   
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Bats stay hot twins sweep, with missing pieces these wins are pivotal even though it’s April.


   
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7 straight even though 3 against the white Sox (although they just won 3 straight against the rays) dealing with the injury adversity are team building ingredients for that locker room and should feel pretty confident going into Chicago tomorrow.


   
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Bats are starting to wake up, especially for guys who started out terribly.

The swing changes Larnach made in the offseason are paying early dividends too. He has looked great so far.


   
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For those of you bereft of BSN it looks like Monday nights game is on FS1


   
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Twins on a 7 game winning steak, the Wolves sweep Phoenix, clearly All Minnesota teams do is WIN!!!!!!


   
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Posted by: @beauner

Bats are starting to wake up, especially for guys who started out terribly.

The swing changes Larnach made in the offseason are paying early dividends too. He has looked great so far.

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He is back!!!!

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8 straight twins win 3-2


   
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Thielbar with his 10+ ERA and 2.3+ WHIP got it done, but not before making it very interesting. Good time to find his curve. It was lethal tonight at least. 


   
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4-32 at the plate tonight. Against the Sox. Just saying. 

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Top three worst eight game winning streak ever. 


   
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Actually, you may be correct on this one. CWS is on pace to be NOTORIOUSLY bad. 

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The White Sox are 3-5 over their last 8 games 

3-0 against Tampa Bay

0-5 against the Twins

Carlos Santana has hit a home run in 4 of the last 5 games.

Joe Ryan has a 3.38 ERA, a WHIP of 1.04 with 41 strike outs and only 5 walks while leading the team in innings pitched (34 2/3). This puts him on pace to throw 200 innings. I don't expect him to end up doing that but it shows he has done a job great job over the first month of the season.

Max Kepler has a batting average of .429 (9 for 21) since coming off the injury list. 


   
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Tampa (while playing in one of the toughest, if not THE TOUGHEST) is still last place with a -31 differential.

I'm not saying the Twins are bad, but I am saying that this stretch isn't something to puff your chest out. 

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If as fans we aren't going to thoroughly enjoy an 8 game winning streak what is the point of being a sports fan? If the only thing worth getting excited about is winning the championship then being a Twins fans is pointless. Losses will always come so why not enjoy the wins no matter who they come against? 

The Twins are 15-13 with a +9 run differential. They done this with out their best player (Royce Lewis) for all but 3 innings. Their second best player (Carlos Correa) has been on the injured list for more than half of the games. His first game back was tonight. Their best relief pitcher (Jhoan Duran) has been on the injured list missing all the games. He will likely be back tomorrow.

They've played 9 series (are one game into the 10th series) with 7 of the 9 series being against teams with winning records.

The AL Central is the only division with 4 teams with winning records.


   
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I am cheering for the team, but I'm also not spouting WS, homeboy, given the teams they have beaten. They've done the job they are supposed to do. Do the jobs you're NOT supposed to do...now I have real faith. I won't leave the bandwagon, but I refuse to be blind. 

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Who said the Twins were going to win the World Series (while being serious)?


   
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Who said the Twins were going to win the World Series (while being serious)?

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They’re having some fun with this “rally sausage” thing and playing some decent loose baseball right now. I personally try to take advantage of this no matter what expectations are for a particular season because being 20 games out in July isn’t thrilling to watch and you’re talking about “next year” already. They’ve stayed afloat through some rough waters when they could’ve easily sunk. 


   
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I’d like to get to a couple games during the summer and if we drop $200 or more for a baseball game I’d prefer to have the game be meaningful with some post season hopes/vibes and not freeze our hind ends off so hoping they can hang in there till June and go from there.


   
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Nice comeback by the Cards to down the Tigers today in game 1 of their doubleheader. 

 

Twins are right back in it. 

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Between 9 straight wins from the Twins and the playoff sweep by the Timberwolves I am starting to wonder if Minnesota teams will ever lose again. 😉 😀 

Buck & Kep is a deadly 9th inning combination.

Last night Buxton leads off the 9th inning with a double and Kepler drives him in. Twins win 3-2.

Tonight Buxton leads off the 9th inning with a walk and Kepler drives him in again (after a Margot single moves Buck to 3rd). Twins win 6-5.

I found somebody who can help us count the Twins winning streak.

 


   
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At least the last Twins game I got to watch on Comcast was a win.

The Twins public statement about the Comcast/Ballys dispute is laughably tone deaf too.

 

https://twitter.com/AaronGleeman/status/1785631637356662993

 

"The Twins have no role or voice in this matter" yet they took $40 million from Bally's to re-up with them for this season (and then pocketed that money) when they could have shopped their broadcast rights to anyone to ensure their fans could watch. 

Instead they re-upped with a failing company and now the biggest cable provider in the country is not carrying the games.


   
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At least the last Twins game I got to watch on Comcast was a win.

The Twins public statement about the Comcast/Ballys dispute is laughably tone deaf too.

 

https://twitter.com/AaronGleeman/status/1785631637356662993

 

"The Twins have no role or voice in this matter" yet they took $40 million from Bally's to re-up with them for this season (and then pocketed that money) when they could have shopped their broadcast rights to anyone to ensure their fans could watch. 

Instead they re-upped with a failing company and now the biggest cable provider in the country is not carrying the games.

Twins management must really think their fans are stupid to not connect the dots. 

They had a chance to do the correct thing and sign with a local company, they didn’t and now they get to wallow with Bally’s. 

 

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Now if we can just keep playing 2 of the 3 worst teams in the AL the rest of the year, we'll end up with a really good record.

 


   
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Not sure yet what exactly the injury is but Buxton is out of the game in the 2nd. Running the bases thing again so could be a few things. Not good


   
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He walked off into the tunnel on his own though but still.


   
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Gee what a surprise. 

At least they managed to secure #10 in a row regardless. Now, a day off and we welcome the Red Sox to town. Let’s see what these guys do against a winning record. It’s been a minute. 


   
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Only 1 MLB division has 4 teams above .500. 

 

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There must be something in the water. MN professional sports teams are only saved from being some of the worst managed franchises in professional sports by the likes of people like Dan Snyder.  Really it's the T'Wolves and Twins I suppose.  Two longest standing ownerships who just shouldn't...  

 

 


   
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