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At first glance that didn't look that high. Weird frame of reference but contact was about nipple height. 


   
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Having a lead vs a trap team opens things up so much more. Really like what I’ve seen from Chesley and as I said yesterday they need to generate more chances down low like they did on the last goal. Currently performing to expectations! ? 

Refs, still not real ? ? 


   
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For the second night in a row a high stick/no high stick goes against us. How was last night not a high stick and today it is?

 


   
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It's a completely different team, a contender, when they put in the effort.


   
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Unbelievable 


   
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And last night someone with 20/200 could see.

Keep your stick on the ice...


   
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Sorry but the idea that the effort is so much better after we get a lead on a broken stick, thus opening the game vs a pesky trap team is ?. 

I don’t think effort was why they lost yesterday, dumb line combos that killed the team’s depth combined with a lot of terrible shots from the point and worse goaltending was the difference yesterday. Today Close has covered up more.

The only games I can think of this year where the team’s effort seemed lacking was the first WI game, the 2nd North Dakota game (dug a hole with penalties due to reaching instead of skating), and the first St Thomas game though they were shaking rust off. Other than that I can’t think of many bad effort games.


   
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What a save there by Bishel!


   
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That save was unreal ? 


   
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Ugh Kurth can't buy a goal. His first goal is likely to bounce in off his leg.


   
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Bischel is good at that hockey puck holy


   
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Poor Kurth just can’t catch a break. But hats off to Bischel. That save was incredible. 


   
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PITLICK again!!!! 4-1

Koster sets him up for a TAP IN.


   
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Great patience by Koster there


   




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Maybe the 4 best to ever play for Chaska HS are all on the same roster. 


   
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Players with multiple points this weekend

Pitlick 3 goals and 1 assist

Brodzinski 3 assists

Nelson 1 goal and 1 assist

Kurth 2 assists

Koster 2 assists

Closer with another good weekend. Get the lead and turn it over to the Closer.

 


   
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What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

I would say it was pretty obvious that the refs did not have a good weekend. 

 


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

While I’m not exactly sure on the rule, I thought U can’t make contact with the puck when it’s above the level of the crossbar. Nelson being 6’4” plus being on skates, the point he contacted the puck at seemed higher than 4 feet, considering he tipped it at his shoulder level. So apparently that’s why they didn’t overturn the on ice call (no clear video evidence to overturn). 

 


   
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It's a completely different team, a contender, when they put in the effort.

Complaining about effort is a lazy take. Sometimes it’s obvious a team lets down for parts of a game but I didn’t see that last night other than we were selling out to block pucks tonight and weren’t last night. Sometimes your decisions on the ice work out and sometimes they don’t. The line and D combos were much more complimentary tonight and we seemed to make a lot of good decisions for example Koster’s patience on the Pitlick goal. The defense also played much, much better tonight but not because they put in more effort but because they played smarter. 

 


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

While I’m not exactly sure on the rule, I thought U can’t make contact with the puck when it’s above the level of the crossbar. Nelson being 6’4” plus being on skates, the point he contacted the puck at seemed higher than 4 feet, considering he tipped it at his shoulder level. So apparently that’s why they didn’t overturn the on ice call (no clear video evidence to overturn). 

 

His height is irrelevant, it just has to be played below his shoulders and it was. 

 


   




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It's a completely different team, a contender, when they put in the effort.

Complaining about effort is a poor man’s take. Sometimes it’s obvious a team lets down for parts of a game but I didn’t see that last night other than we were selling out to block pucks tonight and weren’t last night. Sometimes your decisions on the ice work out and sometimes they don’t. The line and D combos were much more complimentary tonight and we seemed to make a lot of good decisions for example Koster’s patience on the Pitlick goal. The defense also played much, much better tonight but not because they put in more effort but because they played smarter. 

 

BINGO…Agree 100%…blaming losing on lack of effort is a largely inaccurate EXCUSE. These players give 110% almost universally…it comes down to execution, it comes down to making plays successfully or failing to make plays…I find it particularly annoying when teams lose & their fans attribute the loss to their players not playing hard or lacking effort (which is very rarely the true reason).

 


   
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Posted by: @bigbeer

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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

While I’m not exactly sure on the rule, I thought U can’t make contact with the puck when it’s above the level of the crossbar. Nelson being 6’4” plus being on skates, the point he contacted the puck at seemed higher than 4 feet, considering he tipped it at his shoulder level. So apparently that’s why they didn’t overturn the on ice call (no clear video evidence to overturn). 

 

His height is irrelevant, it just has to be played below his shoulders and it was. 

 

Was it played with a high stick  and then shot into the net, or was it played/deflected directly into the net? One is shoulder height. One is crossbar height.

 


   
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He deflected it straight into the net. I’m pretty sure the rule in NCAA for that is still crossbar, correct? I think it is up for review and possible change for next season, though. 


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

While I’m not exactly sure on the rule, I thought U can’t make contact with the puck when it’s above the level of the crossbar. Nelson being 6’4” plus being on skates, the point he contacted the puck at seemed higher than 4 feet, considering he tipped it at his shoulder level. So apparently that’s why they didn’t overturn the on ice call (no clear video evidence to overturn). 

 

His height is irrelevant, it just has to be played below his shoulders and it was. 

 

Was it played with a high stick  and then shot into the net, or was it played/deflected directly into the net? One is shoulder height. One is crossbar height.

 

Thats a good point and likely why they said no goal. 

 


   
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Good win tonight! Pitlick-Moore-Kurth line was flying. Keep them together. 


   
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Minnesota got better every period. In the 3rd, they played real solid in their own end. ND held the puck for long stretches and had some shots, but the Gophers tightened up and turned the tables when they got possession. 

After the first period I was a little worried. If they had played the rest of the game like they played the first, I'm not so sure they get a win


   
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Speaking of Kurth, Pat made two good points on the broadcast. First was while Kurth is currently snakebitten and has zero goals on the season he has been contributing in many other ways. Especially tonight. Second, that when he gets that first goal the damn will break and the goals will start pouring in. Hopefully for all our sakes that happens sooner than later. 


   




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Solid performance tonight and as mentioned above they seemed to get better as the game went along.  

I hope they clean up play on the blue lines, still get too many shot blocked on the offensive side and still a little too cut with the puck on the D zone instead of cutting bait and getting it out.

Long shifts drive me bonkers and directly led to UND's goal.

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Brodzinski leads the team in points with 11 (5 goals and 6 assists).

Snuggy leads the team in goals with 8.

Kurth and Rinzel lead the team in assists with 7.


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

While I’m not exactly sure on the rule, I thought U can’t make contact with the puck when it’s above the level of the crossbar. Nelson being 6’4” plus being on skates, the point he contacted the puck at seemed higher than 4 feet, considering he tipped it at his shoulder level. So apparently that’s why they didn’t overturn the on ice call (no clear video evidence to overturn). 

 

His height is irrelevant, it just has to be played below his shoulders and it was. 

 

Was it played with a high stick  and then shot into the net, or was it played/deflected directly into the net? One is shoulder height. One is crossbar height.

 

Thats a good point and likely why they said no goal. 

 

By that thinking, wouldn’t it mean that a player who does a Michigan has to scoop the puck in from below the height of the crossbar cause I have have seen some that definitely weren’t. 

 


   
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Y'all sounding like IA Fair Catch. Like it or not, you are. 😉 

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Posted by: @bigbeer

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Posted by: @mlhouse

What was the consensus here about the Nelson tip that was disallowed.  It looked good to me and last night Notre Dame got away with a blatant high stick right before their 2nd goal.

While I’m not exactly sure on the rule, I thought U can’t make contact with the puck when it’s above the level of the crossbar. Nelson being 6’4” plus being on skates, the point he contacted the puck at seemed higher than 4 feet, considering he tipped it at his shoulder level. So apparently that’s why they didn’t overturn the on ice call (no clear video evidence to overturn). 

 

His height is irrelevant, it just has to be played below his shoulders and it was. 

 

Was it played with a high stick  and then shot into the net, or was it played/deflected directly into the net? One is shoulder height. One is crossbar height.

 

Thats a good point and likely why they said no goal. 

 

By that thinking, wouldn’t it mean that a player who does a Michigan has to scoop the puck in from below the height of the crossbar cause I have have seen some that definitely weren’t. 

 

Yes, but it would be pretty much impossible to put the puck in the net with the stick above the crossbar.

 


   
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Y'all sounding like IA Fair Catch. Like it or not, you are. 😉 

Doh’kay…we won bro.

 

We’re figuring out why they called it a no goal. 

 


   
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Y'all sounding like IA Fair Catch. Like it or not, you are. 😉 

Doh’kay…we won bro.

 

We’re figuring out why they called it a no goal. 

 

 

To me it was a high stick. And upon replay, it wasn't conclusive enough to overturn. *shrug* 

 

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It's a completely different team, a contender, when they put in the effort.

Complaining about effort is a poor man’s take. Sometimes it’s obvious a team lets down for parts of a game but I didn’t see that last night other than we were selling out to block pucks tonight and weren’t last night. Sometimes your decisions on the ice work out and sometimes they don’t. The line and D combos were much more complimentary tonight and we seemed to make a lot of good decisions for example Koster’s patience on the Pitlick goal. The defense also played much, much better tonight but not because they put in more effort but because they played smarter. 

 

BINGO…Agree 100%…blaming losing on lack of effort is a largely inaccurate EXCUSE. These players give 110% almost universally…it comes down to execution, it comes down to making plays successfully or failing to make plays…I find it particularly annoying when teams lose & their fans attribute the loss to their players not playing hard or lacking effort (which is very rarely the true reason).

 

Whatever the difference is (execution or effort), tonight was noticeably different than last night. To me, the biggest difference was our players’ willingness to initiate (or take) contact in 50-50 situations. Last night there was a lot of reaching for the puck and we seemed to more often than not came up short in personal battles. 

Anywho, we have a very good team when the players are firing. Some really entertaining play in that third period. 

 


   
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Y'all sounding like IA Fair Catch. Like it or not, you are. 😉 

No, they're not. Some people were curious about the rule but everyone here has conceded after it was explained the difference between the two different HS rules. 

 


   
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Kind of reminds me of the Major League clip 😉 

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Koster really played a great game. Its going to be a really tough battle test year. I'm even more excited, the Gophers can beat anyone if they play their game.

Win it all in St. Paul. Go Gophers!


   
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I didn’t see Friday’s game but the biggest difference between their Jeckyll and Hyde games is discipline. Not getting three (or four!) caught deep, back-checking, short shifts and smart changes, smart play near the blue lines……

Do these things well and fans will most likely leave the arena happy.  

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Two things I liked about last night were the amount of blocked shots and goals 2 and 3. Take nothing away from Pitlick’s goals but we already knew this team could score off of the rush. It was good to see us score in different ways after having a decent amount of offensive zone time. I feel like that’s been lacking a bit this year. Other than the last 8-10 minutes of the first and the first 5 minutes of the second I think we played well. Keep building on this weekend, fix what needs to be fixed, and get ready for an exciting weekend against Michigan State. 


   




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I know someone brought up that the 5th year players aren't doing enough. Brodzinski and the Farm Kid are on the top of the point leaderboard and *if they continue at that pace they will break their personal scoring marks. Close save % is 922 and is slightly below his normal average and his GAA is 2.31 which is a .30 above his norm. They certainly are not the reason for the slow start. Closers stats can be attributed to the play of the defense in front of him.

 

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Not just because he scored a goal but I thought Chesley looked a lot better last night. Looked more comfortable and I can’t really remember seeing many turnovers from him. Also, a few others have mentioned this, including Vegoe on the pod, but Thomas has overall been quietly impressive so far this year. 


   
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Nelson’s line got tired and couldn’t get off the ice for that one goal, it happens. I feel like they’ve mostly been good and they should just keep that line how they had it yesterday. Keep Nevers on it as the chemistry seems to work, basically the bulldozer line. Pitlick playing with speedy guys like Moore and Snuggy would make a ton of sense too. 


   
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Nelson’s line got tired and couldn’t get off the ice for that one goal, it happens. I feel like they’ve mostly been good and they should just keep that line how they had it yesterday. Keep Nevers on it as the chemistry seems to work, basically the bulldozer line. Pitlick playing with speedy guys like Moore and Snuggy would make a ton of sense too. 

I agree.  Really like Moore and Pitlick playing together because they can keep up with each other.  Kurth gives them some grit to go with it.  

Also like keeping Nelson/Brodz/Nevers together.

Clark and Lamb seemed to play well together and wouldn’t mind seeing them try Clark with Lamb and Snuggerud.  Clark seems to have a gear that Huglen doesn’t (but Huglen makes up for it with experience).

 


   
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Huglen definitely looked a bit slower this weekend. We know he took the knock on Wednesday was thought to not play this weekend. I feel like he’s one that will get healthy over the break and have a good second half. 


   
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Two things I liked about last night were the amount of blocked shots and goals 2 and 3. Take nothing away from Pitlick’s goals but we already knew this team could score off of the rush. It was good to see us score in different ways after having a decent amount of offensive zone time. I feel like that’s been lacking a bit this year. Other than the last 8-10 minutes of the first and the first 5 minutes of the second I think we played well. Keep building on this weekend, fix what needs to be fixed, and get ready for an exciting weekend against Michigan State. 

If I had to pick one thing that defined that game for me, it would be 7 or 8 minutes of the 3rd period when ND was pressing for a goal. The Gophers played near-perfect defense, not allowing ND any great scoring chances or rebound shots.

This team isn't the same quick-strike offense from last year, but if they can play defense like that while seizing the opportunities that come off of playing sound defense, that could be their identity for this season.

 


   
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