The thing is, officiating didn't cost the Gophers the game: Lackadaisical play for the most of the first and second period is what lost them the game. It was pretty clear that when the Gophers had their energy up, they were the better team. NoDak did a good job of clogging neutral zones and breaking up the flow. They deserved the win on Saturday.
I think the complaint is when on-ice officials are alums of a team on the ice.
Yes, given the regionality of college hockey, it gets hard to exclude potential rivals of a particular team from being officials in all games, but, if any officials are alums of one of the teams in THAT game, that seems like a problem (I have no idea if all or any of the 4 on-ice officials or any of the off-ice replay/supervisory/whatever crew were alums of UM or UND)
Yeah, I wouldn't want a gopher doing our games. It just seems not great. Maybe linemen but certainly not the refs.
How many D1 level officials live near Grand Forks that didn’t go to school there? That’s the problem. It’s frequent for school alumni to live in the area near where they attended school, so your pool of qualified refs is small to nil when you exclude the alumni. Who the hell would live near Grand Forks on purpose? Only those who got suckered to play hockey there.I think the complaint is when on-ice officials are alums of a team on the ice.
Yes, given the regionality of college hockey, it gets hard to exclude potential rivals of a particular team from being officials in all games, but, if any officials are alums of one of the teams in THAT game, that seems like a problem (I have no idea if all or any of the 4 on-ice officials or any of the off-ice replay/supervisory/whatever crew were alums of UM or UND)
aren't most (all?) refs traveling for the games? The linesmen are all fairly local and don't move much.
With Chesley out you might’ve had two games that look like the second game so I kinda get it.
With Chesley out you might’ve had two games that look like the second game so I kinda get it.
Likely worse.
They showed TOI from the first game and if I recall Chesley was 22 or so minutes plus. Getting him back was the difference for the whole series.
For an elite player Jackson Blake sure goes down easy. Sometimes being within three feet of an opponent does him in.
For an elite player Jackson Blake sure goes down easy. Sometimes being within three feet of an opponent does him in.
World Cup elite.
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The only thing that was bad about officiating this weekend was the way the ref announced penalties
Or getting the complete wrong guy on a play... Or not knowing the difference of a guy losing an edge and a trip...
It was bad, it's okay to say it was bad.
@suedescar yes I agree. When the director of officials and two on ice are UND alums not surprising.
And ultimately, once you go on the ice you realize you have a job to do and turn off your inner hockey fan. If an official is actually biased, the coaches (who give feedback every game) are going to get them out of there quickly.
Buzzy Christionson might have missed those instructions. A friend of mine has a Gopher jersey that he got for free from Buzzy. Buzzy was given it at retirement and he wanted nothing to do with it. He is a great guy with some great stories, but if you were a Gopher fan during his time, 'impartial' was not a word that came to mind while watching games he reffed. (I cursed his name several times as a fan, but after talking with a him a few times and hearing about him from co-workers, I realized some refs can be real people too.)
@suedescar yes I agree. When the director of officials and two on ice are UND alums not surprising.
And ultimately, once you go on the ice you realize you have a job to do and turn off your inner hockey fan. If an official is actually biased, the coaches (who give feedback every game) are going to get them out of there quickly.
Buzzy Christionson might have missed those instructions. A friend of mine has a Gopher jersey that he got for free from Buzzy. Buzzy was given it at retirement and he wanted nothing to do with it. He is a great guy with some great stories, but if you were a Gopher fan during his time, 'impartial' was not a word that came to mind while watching games he reffed. (I cursed his name several times as a fan, but after talking with a him a few times and hearing about him from co-workers, I realized some refs can be real people too.)
Buzz and his entire crew (including Jon Campion and Mark Nebel) were suspended for a weekend by the WCHA back in 1997 for a blatant checking from behind they didn't call on Northern Michigan against the Gophers in Marquette.
I'm pretty sure Derek Shepard was on the crew that weekend. I remember the 97 Final Five (last one at the Civic Center) Greg was sitting right behind me, talking with some people, he mentioned that he had to suspend the whole crew for that horrible missed call, and I recall him saying that it included his son on the crew.@suedescar yes I agree. When the director of officials and two on ice are UND alums not surprising.
And ultimately, once you go on the ice you realize you have a job to do and turn off your inner hockey fan. If an official is actually biased, the coaches (who give feedback every game) are going to get them out of there quickly.
Buzzy Christionson might have missed those instructions. A friend of mine has a Gopher jersey that he got for free from Buzzy. Buzzy was given it at retirement and he wanted nothing to do with it. He is a great guy with some great stories, but if you were a Gopher fan during his time, 'impartial' was not a word that came to mind while watching games he reffed. (I cursed his name several times as a fan, but after talking with a him a few times and hearing about him from co-workers, I realized some refs can be real people too.)
Buzz and his entire crew (including Jon Campion and Mark Nebel) were suspended for a weekend by the WCHA back in 1997 for a blatant checking from behind they didn't call on Northern Michigan against the Gophers in Marquette.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
How many D1 level officials live near Grand Forks that didn’t go to school there? That’s the problem. It’s frequent for school alumni to live in the area near where they attended school, so your pool of qualified refs is small to nil when you exclude the alumni. Who the hell would live near Grand Forks on purpose? Only those who got suckered to play hockey there.I think the complaint is when on-ice officials are alums of a team on the ice.
Yes, given the regionality of college hockey, it gets hard to exclude potential rivals of a particular team from being officials in all games, but, if any officials are alums of one of the teams in THAT game, that seems like a problem (I have no idea if all or any of the 4 on-ice officials or any of the off-ice replay/supervisory/whatever crew were alums of UM or UND)
aren't most (all?) refs traveling for the games? The linesmen are all fairly local and don't move much.
Couple things. I didn’t think any of them lived locally, looked up the NCHC Officials roster and one of them is from EGF and I think still coaches baseball there. I was also surprised to see that Thor Nelson is a supervisor and he is head of officiating for North Dakota Amateur Hockey (youth league officials).
I think sometimes the whole group travels or depending on where they live and commitment, some will travel further than others. I officiated a youth game last year with a guy who did Juniors and he was from Minneapolis and had been traveling to Minot to do games until he moved to Fargo.
There is a lot of opportunity to officiate everywhere and at all levels. I learn a bit more the more seasons I get under my belt. I really wish I had started when I was young and not waited until I was 42.
Maybe, but the ARs I've seen at Maroosh are fairly constant. Plus in talking with others, I've heard ARs are generally local. Not always, depends on a number of things.
Went to both games in gf and Friday in section 311 the lets go gophers chants echoed though the rink. ?
Overall not a bad weekend. One thing that stuck out to me is how much of a stud Rinzel is!
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