He grabbed the back of the neck area of the jersey. Textbook. I don't know about this last PI, though.
I didn't see it but by definition your explanation fits:
ARTICLE 16.HORSE-COLLAR TACKLE
No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey,or grab the jersey at the name plate or above,and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.
Was not the best week to be playing against Allen in fantasy football ( Looks in the mirror )
Why didn't you do a better job of coaching up your defense to stop him? 😉
Should have tried kicking the trash can!
I really like jokes about coaching your fantasy team like it’s a real team. I co-manage a fantasy baseball team and when we have a bad week, we will take turns on who gets to yell at the players or if we need to sweet talk them to build up their confidence.
The former ref on the TV broadcast said it wasn't a horse collar tackle because the knees of the player being tackled didn't buckle (aka he didn't pull him backwards).
The TV announcer said this first and then the former ref repeated it so this language is obviously something that is a factor unless they are just making up shit.
Was not the best week to be playing against Allen in fantasy football ( Looks in the mirror )
Why didn't you do a better job of coaching up your defense to stop him? 😉
Should have tried kicking the trash can!
I really like jokes about coaching your fantasy team like it’s a real team. I co-manage a fantasy baseball team and when we have a bad week, we will take turns on who gets to yell at the players or if we need to sweet talk them to build up their confidence.
This reminds me of the time my dynasty fantasy football team blew out my rival in the semi finals and then completely laid an egg in the championship game. I remember joking with my rival that apparently my team had a let down after such a big win in a rivalry game.
My rival a few years later drafted four straight WRs in our rookie draft so I was teasing him that his veteran WRs are posting on Twitter (what it was called at the time) that they are feeling disrespected about how eager you are to replace them and that his WR practices are going to fierce with the veterans not liking all these rookies being brought in to take their jobs. He responded laughing saying the vets better bring their A games.
I still don’t think that should be a horsecollar, but reading the definition you can see how it can be considered one. I don’t think the intention of the rule was to make that a penalty. Hardly a textbook example of what they’re trying to get rid of. Allen whining for the flag before he hit the ground was a nice touch, though. 😀
Was not the best week to be playing against Allen in fantasy football ( Looks in the mirror )
Why didn't you do a better job of coaching up your defense to stop him? 😉
Should have tried kicking the trash can!
I really like jokes about coaching your fantasy team like it’s a real team. I co-manage a fantasy baseball team and when we have a bad week, we will take turns on who gets to yell at the players or if we need to sweet talk them to build up their confidence.
This reminds me of the time my dynasty fantasy football team blew out my rival in the semi finals and then completely laid an egg in the championship game. I remember joking with my rival that apparently my team had a let down after such a big win in a rivalry game.
My rival a few years later drafted four straight WRs in our rookie draft so I was teasing him that his veteran WRs are posting on Twitter (what it was called at the time) that they are feeling disrespected about how eager you are to replace them and that his WR practices are going to fierce with the veterans not liking all these rookies being brought in to take their jobs. He responded laughing saying the vets better bring their A games.
True stories.
We have had our Fantasy League since 1991 and I am the commish. So, I have a record of every year. The highest single game for our scoring system for a QB is Drew Brees in 2015 when he threw 7 Td's and had 505 yards. I had him and he was on my bench....BTW, Eli Manning had 6 td's that game as the Saints beat the Giants 52-49. Allen is 2nd now in points by a QB in a single game. Single game high points by any player is Kamara with 6 rushing TD's ( Christmas Day vs Vikings in 2020 )
Looking down from my High Horse
Morality Police
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Knees didn't buckle, give me a break. ANY player that gets grabbed by the neck area...horsecollar. Period.
probably shouldn't make definitive statements if you don't know the rule.
ARTICLE 16.HORSE-COLLAR TACKLE
No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey,or grab the jersey at the name plate or above,and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.
Note: It is not necessary for a player to pull the runner completely to the ground in order for the act to be illegal. If his knees are buckled by the action, it is a foul, even if the runner is not pulled completely to the ground.
YE organizes a family FF for us on ESPN. I happen to have Josh so you can see what he did for me.
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Knees didn't buckle, give me a break. ANY player that gets grabbed by the neck area...horsecollar. Period.
probably shouldn't make definitive statements if you don't know the rule.
ARTICLE 16.HORSE-COLLAR TACKLE
No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey,or grab the jersey at the name plate or above,and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.
Note: It is not necessary for a player to pull the runner completely to the ground in order for the act to be illegal. If his knees are buckled by the action, it is a foul, even if the runner is not pulled completely to the ground.
That's what I said. It was a horse collar.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Knees didn't buckle, give me a break. ANY player that gets grabbed by the neck area...horsecollar. Period.
probably shouldn't make definitive statements if you don't know the rule.
ARTICLE 16.HORSE-COLLAR TACKLE
No player shall grab the inside collar of the back or the side of the shoulder pads or jersey,or grab the jersey at the name plate or above,and pull the runner toward the ground. This does not apply to a runner who is in the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.
Note: It is not necessary for a player to pull the runner completely to the ground in order for the act to be illegal. If his knees are buckled by the action, it is a foul, even if the runner is not pulled completely to the ground.
By the clear wording of the rule, that was a horse-collar tackle. Grabbed the jersey and/or pads above the nameplate to effect the tackle.
What part of that rule are you seeing on that play? Doesn't actually grab anything with his right hand. Doesn't pull Allen towards the ground with his right hand. Allen doesn't even fall backwards. He falls forward while spinning to his right. Not sure thats possible if he was being pulled backwards/down on his right shoulder.
This video at about 8 seconds makes it really obvious-
Ok now seeing the reply especially from behind that's not a horse collar.
Huh. Horse collar in the LA-SF game, and he wasn't even tackled.
In the BUF game you could see in the angle from behind he didn't get hold of the jersey. A few fingers made contact was about it. I don't have a dog in that hunt.
Maybe a guy having his leg torn apart is the ultimate freeze for the kicker?
Can't freeze this guy!
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Appreciate Bills getting the win tonight Rube! 👍 Unfortunately…Buffalo ain’t going to the Super Bowl with that hideous D.Josh Allen is absolutely GREAT! ! !
Appreciate Bills getting the win tonight Rube! 👍 Unfortunately…Buffalo ain’t going to the Super Bowl with that hideous D.Josh Allen is absolutely GREAT! ! !
The D is subpar, but I still have to Bill-ieve.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
The Falcons' are much in playoff race for a division championship... are they mailing in the season?!?!?!
I don't think so. Curt has thrown for 1 TD and 9 INT in his last 5 games and his passer rating has been sub 80 for each. The Falcons are 1-4 in those 5 games with their only win a 15-9 victory over the vaunted LV Raiders.
They probably think Penix may give them a better chance to win. Can it get worse?
If that was the case the time to make the move was probably weeks ago. I don't think this is anything but a sign Cousins will be cut in the offseason. Although they do hold the tiebreaker with Tampa so they could still theoretically win the division.
Complete and total mismanagement from the day they signed him and it is going to hurt for a long time. Lot of dead cap money...
