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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 


 
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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 

that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

 


 
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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 

that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

 

they probably view it as an advantage to have him for that time and the dollar amount will be slightly reduced at a lower term is my guess

 


 
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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 

that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

 

they probably view it as an advantage to have him for that time and the dollar amount will be slightly reduced at a lower term is my guess

 

There is no advantage to having a player signed until they are 38 years old, unless you are getting a significant break on the cost.

 


 
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that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

My hope is this is all part of the dance/process and this was offer #1 negotiations are ongoing.

The only thing I glean from this rumor is the Wild came in hot.  Seems like (so far) there is no indication of where in the process they are, where gap is, and how far apart they are.   

 


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that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

My hope is this is all part of the dance/process and this was offer #1 negotiations are ongoing.

The only thing I glean from this rumor is the Wild came in hot.  Seems like (so far) there is no indication of where in the process they are, where gap is, and how far apart they are.   

 

I'm trying to figure out what Kaprizov's side thinks they stand to gain by leaking this info? Turning down the largest contract in the history of the sport isn't likely something that will turn public opinion in your favor.

Might just be that they know Guerin's job is tied directly to this deal, and any negative news likely adds pressure

 


 
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that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

My hope is this is all part of the dance/process and this was offer #1 negotiations are ongoing.

The only thing I glean from this rumor is the Wild came in hot.  Seems like (so far) there is no indication of where in the process they are, where gap is, and how far apart they are.   

 

I'm trying to figure out what Kaprizov's side thinks they stand to gain by leaking this info? Turning down the largest contract in the history of the sport isn't likely something that will turn public opinion in your favor.

Might just be that they know Guerin's job is tied directly to this deal, and any negative news likely adds pressure

 

Really good point. 
Not quite as bad as our man Latrell worrying about feeding his family but close. 

 


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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 

that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

 

they probably view it as an advantage to have him for that time and the dollar amount will be slightly reduced at a lower term is my guess

 

There is no advantage to having a player signed until they are 38 years old, unless you are getting a significant break on the cost.

 

Which is what they must be presuming. KK has no incentive whatsoever to sign a deal unless you’re giving him a term length or dollar amount advantage to what he’s getting next year as a UFA. What are they gonna threaten him they’ll trade him for one down season playing against an also ran? Wild either have to take a “hit” on the years or the dollar amount somewhere

I’m not saying one way is smarter or not, but this is the disadvantage of setting the market right now as the cap is set to jump in a high tax state 


 
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that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

My hope is this is all part of the dance/process and this was offer #1 negotiations are ongoing.

The only thing I glean from this rumor is the Wild came in hot.  Seems like (so far) there is no indication of where in the process they are, where gap is, and how far apart they are.   

 

I'm trying to figure out what Kaprizov's side thinks they stand to gain by leaking this info? Turning down the largest contract in the history of the sport isn't likely something that will turn public opinion in your favor.

Might just be that they know Guerin's job is tied directly to this deal, and any negative news likely adds pressure

 

well there’s now reports that his camp didn’t see the dollar amount or contract. If he’s actually turning down that amount it’s a years thing which I can’t say I’d blame him for right now

 


 
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All I’d urge people to remember is that Russo is out there for clicks right now. Try to breathe.  😆 


 
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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 

that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

 

they probably view it as an advantage to have him for that time and the dollar amount will be slightly reduced at a lower term is my guess

 

There is no advantage to having a player signed until they are 38 years old, unless you are getting a significant break on the cost.

 

Which is what they must be presuming. KK has no incentive whatsoever to sign a deal unless you’re giving him a term length or dollar amount advantage to what he’s getting next year as a UFA. What are they gonna threaten him they’ll trade him for one down season playing against an also ran? Wild either have to take a “hit” on the years or the dollar amount somewhere

I’m not saying one way is smarter or not, but this is the disadvantage of setting the market right now as the cap is set to jump in a high tax state 

There is zero presuming that $16M per is a significant break in cost. It is a gross overpay with the hope that it may become more reasonable over time.

Kaprizov has a ton of incentive to sign a deal now. If he plays another 40 game season, there's no chance he's getting $15M-$16M offers next summer. Gotta be hard to risk $128M and play an entire season being one bad play away.

If the offer is true, the Wild are taking a hit on both years and dollar amount.

 


 
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My guess is he doesn’t want to do 8 years, and the amount isn’t as much of a concern. 

that has to be the hope among Wild fans. But, that leads to the question of why you would offer the guy  a term that he isn't interested in?

 

they probably view it as an advantage to have him for that time and the dollar amount will be slightly reduced at a lower term is my guess

 

There is no advantage to having a player signed until they are 38 years old, unless you are getting a significant break on the cost.

 

Which is what they must be presuming. KK has no incentive whatsoever to sign a deal unless you’re giving him a term length or dollar amount advantage to what he’s getting next year as a UFA. What are they gonna threaten him they’ll trade him for one down season playing against an also ran? Wild either have to take a “hit” on the years or the dollar amount somewhere

I’m not saying one way is smarter or not, but this is the disadvantage of setting the market right now as the cap is set to jump in a high tax state 

There is zero presuming that $16M per is a significant break in cost. It is a gross overpay with the hope that it may become more reasonable over time.

Kaprizov has a ton of incentive to sign a deal now. If he plays another 40 game season, there's no chance he's getting $15M-$16M offers next summer. Gotta be hard to risk $128M and play an entire season being one bad play away.

If the offer is true, the Wild are taking a hit on both years and dollar amount.

 

and if he plays one more year healthy at 1.2 ppg he will command whatever he wants on the free market. If he’s hurt, he signs a short bridge deal. I 100% think he’s fine betting on himself vs hitching himself to this franchise for 8 years unless the dollar amount is asinine. I’m guessing they do best for both and a shorter deal at a slightly lower dollar amount. In 2 years, this deal is less than 15% of cap. 

if you let him walk, where are you going as a franchise? It is an overpay, but so was draisaitl because you pay to keep the superstar off the market unless you’re selling them at the deadline or signing and trading a la marner

 

again I’m not saying I agree or whatever, but im guessing he views it as he’ll get that dollar amount. Why tie himself here for 8 years instead of either FA or a 2-3 year bridge to be a UFA and a massive deal unless the dollar amount blows what he could get next year out of the water (he’s not signing because he might get hurt, he’s in his 20s and plays like he’s made of steel, for better or worse)

 


 
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How does Bill Guerin still have a job?


 
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How does Bill Guerin still have a job?

 

So he should be fired because a player just turned down the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport?

 


 
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Anybody else think Leipold just needs to shut his mouth and stop talking to the press? Nothing he has bragged about has come true yet, hopefully he is learning his lesson.


 
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@j22 The only logical explanation is KK wants a shorter term (assuming the $16 mil annual is legit) or he simply doesn’t want to re-up with the Wild. In either case, the fact remains the Wild have to get KK signed to an extension or trade him before the deadline, there is ZERO alternative. So the longer this goes, the worse the Wilds negotiation leverage becomes (and his corresponding trade value if a contract isn’t agreed to).


 
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How does Bill Guerin still have a job?

 

So he should be fired because a player just turned down the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport?

 

Maybe he should be fired for doing such a poor job that the biggest contract ever might not be enough to keep your best player interested in sticking around. 

 


 
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@j22 The only logical explanation is KK wants a shorter term (assuming the $16 mil annual is legit) or he simply doesn’t want to re-up with the Wild. In either case, the fact remains the Wild have to get KK signed to an extension or trade him before the deadline, there is ZERO alternative. So the longer this goes, the worse the Wilds negotiation leverage becomes (and his corresponding trade value if a contract isn’t agreed to).

with how little we actually know at this point, there are still a ton of different explanations. It's possible that Kaprizov gave Guerin the summer to make a move or two to show that he knows what he's doing. It’s also possible that he never had any intention of re-signing and Guerin has just been blowing smoke to keep his job. There's also the chance that its all BS and he signs tomorrow. 

There's no way you can allow Kaprizov to skate another shift without a new contract. If he wants to wait for free agency, you either trade him or he sits and watches 

 


 
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There's no way you can allow Kaprizov to skate another shift without a new contract. If he wants to wait for free agency, you either trade him or he sits and watches 

 

Totally agree with this.

 


 
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So now Wild denying that they had asked for names of teams KK would accept a trade to.  Fake news?

I wonder if fan opinion matters to KK, and if so, does he have a feel for how American fans might not be as big of supporters if he asks for 19.1 mill/yr and the Wild no longer has cash to add one more big-time forward at trade deadline. Sounds like his agent is all about max money as priority number 1, 2 and 3. In his best interest to downplay to KK impact on Wild's competitiveness in future and fan reaction. (Also, when a player has a no-trade clause, is he required to give a list of teams he is willing to go to and can't just say 'you can't trade me' and end up leaving in free agency with team getting zero?)

I have seen one report that speculates he wants to wait to see what McDavid does. The interesting thing that could happen there, is that Russo has actually suggested that one of the rumors on McDavid is that he is considering taking less than max amount to put more money towards secondary scoring (and maybe better goaltending?). Would be interesting to see what KK would do if McDavid settled for 14-16 mill. But the scary part, if he is waiting for McDavid, is that McDavid seems in no hurry to do anything.

As a long time MN sports fan, I fully expect the worst or something close to it. At this point, it seems like best possible outcome is we keep him but he uses almost all the cap available (if rumors are true this isn't about term). Or we have to trade and 1. no longer have the most fun player MN has ever had to watch, and 2. Wild get considerably less than the equivalent of what KK provides.


 
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I have seen one report that speculates he wants to wait to see what McDavid does. The interesting thing that could happen there, is that Russo has actually suggested that one of the rumors on McDavid is that he is considering taking less than max amount to put more money towards secondary scoring (and maybe better goaltending?). Would be interesting to see what KK would do if McDavid settled for 14-16 mill. But the scary part, if he is waiting for McDavid, is that McDavid seems in no hurry to do anything.

32 Thoughts is probably your location for all things McDavid.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/32-thoughts-the-podcast/id1332150124?i=1000725117400

Elliot Freidman has strongly suggested that McDavid is all about winning and knows there's a max amount he can probably take from the cap space and still field a team that can win. There is the thought that teams will want to keep $20M in cap space open in case McDavid hits UFA... but if winning is important to a player, taking max cap space isn't probably helpful toward that aim.

Feels like Draisaitl sets the bar for a winger contract for 8 yrs - $14M/season which kicks in this year.

Auston Matthews has the big money contract for a center from last year 4 yrs - $13.25M which started last year on top of his 5 yr - $11.634M RFA deal. Nathan MacKinnon has the other big center deal 8 yrs - $12.5M which he signed two years ago.

Theofanous got Panarin 7 yrs - $11.643M which was 14.29% of the cap when he signed it, that's the biggest cap percentage a winger has ever signed for in the NHL. 14.29% of next year's cap would be $13.64. Recently the top percentage deals according to AI are McDavid 15.72%, MacKinnon 15.09%, Matthews 15.06% and Draisaitl 14.66%.

Brad Richards got a 20% in 2005-06, $7.8M of $39M, Ovi got 19% in 2008 $9.538M of $56.7M (although that was a 13-yr deal) and Thorton got 17.1% in 2005 with $6.6.

 


 
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So now Wild denying that they had asked for names of teams KK would accept a trade to.  Fake news?

I wonder if fan opinion matters to KK, and if so, does he have a feel for how American fans might not be as big of supporters if he asks for 19.1 mill/yr and the Wild no longer has cash to add one more big-time forward at trade deadline. Sounds like his agent is all about max money as priority number 1, 2 and 3. In his best interest to downplay to KK impact on Wild's competitiveness in future and fan reaction. (Also, when a player has a no-trade clause, is he required to give a list of teams he is willing to go to and can't just say 'you can't trade me' and end up leaving in free agency with team getting zero?)

I have seen one report that speculates he wants to wait to see what McDavid does. The interesting thing that could happen there, is that Russo has actually suggested that one of the rumors on McDavid is that he is considering taking less than max amount to put more money towards secondary scoring (and maybe better goaltending?). Would be interesting to see what KK would do if McDavid settled for 14-16 mill. But the scary part, if he is waiting for McDavid, is that McDavid seems in no hurry to do anything.

As a long time MN sports fan, I fully expect the worst or something close to it. At this point, it seems like best possible outcome is we keep him but he uses almost all the cap available (if rumors are true this isn't about term). Or we have to trade and 1. no longer have the most fun player MN has ever had to watch, and 2. Wild get considerably less than the equivalent of what KK provides.

Kaprizov has zero obligation to provide the Wild with a list of teams. He doesn't even have to discuss any trades with the Wild if he so chooses.  The only recourse that the Wild would have would be to sit him until he's ready to deal. 

After seeing more of the story play out,I'm pretty sure that it was Guerin and the Wild who leaked the story of Kaprizov turning down the 8 year deal. I think they did it to turn the public opinion of Kaprizov and see how he would react to that.

 


 
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An interesting listen. Side note-- Russo knows how the news got out and it was not the Wild. 

https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1966547269664354358


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An interesting listen. Side note-- Russo knows how the news got out and it was not the Wild. 

https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1966547269664354358

That's how you know it was the Wild that leaked it

 


 
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Here we go ago...

Per Russo

Guerin indicates something has come up with Mats Zuccarello in recent weeks and he’s going to miss some time and sounds like at least the start of the season


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Kaprizov has zero obligation to provide the Wild with a list of teams. He doesn't even have to discuss any trades with the Wild if he so chooses.  The only recourse that the Wild would have would be to sit him until he's ready to deal. 

After seeing more of the story play out,I'm pretty sure that it was Guerin and the Wild who leaked the story of Kaprizov turning down the 8 year deal. I think they did it to turn the public opinion of Kaprizov and see how he would react to that.

 

That is pretty likely.  My guess is agents (with support and/or pushing from the NHLPA) are urging players, especially the top players, to take 3 year contracts at max until the Salary Cap plateaus a little bit.  It is expected to go up by about $10M per season each of the next 2 seasons.  I haven't seen projections beyond that, but if that continues, top players salaries are going to get larger just by the percentage of the cap numbers. 

I don't imagine we will see very many 8 year deals being signed, unless they are middle 6 players how are near their peak.  Why would a mid 20s player sign an 8 year deal if the cap is expected to go up significantly in the next couple years.  Not the incremental increases we saw in the years prior to 2020.

 


 
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I'm to the point of not caring if he signs if it's going to cost the Wild $16M+ per year.  He averages about 60 games played per year.  If he goes elsewhere the Wild will have a lot of money to sign other free agents that have a chance to stay on the ice... so long as Bill doesn't piss away that money to resign bottom pair defenseman and 3rd or 4th line centers.


 
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Kaprizov has zero obligation to provide the Wild with a list of teams. He doesn't even have to discuss any trades with the Wild if he so chooses.  The only recourse that the Wild would have would be to sit him until he's ready to deal. 

After seeing more of the story play out,I'm pretty sure that it was Guerin and the Wild who leaked the story of Kaprizov turning down the 8 year deal. I think they did it to turn the public opinion of Kaprizov and see how he would react to that.

 

That is pretty likely.  My guess is agents (with support and/or pushing from the NHLPA) are urging players, especially the top players, to take 3 year contracts at max until the Salary Cap plateaus a little bit.  It is expected to go up by about $10M per season each of the next 2 seasons.  I haven't seen projections beyond that, but if that continues, top players salaries are going to get larger just by the percentage of the cap numbers. 

I don't imagine we will see very many 8 year deals being signed, unless they are middle 6 players how are near their peak.  Why would a mid 20s player sign an 8 year deal if the cap is expected to go up significantly in the next couple years.  Not the incremental increases we saw in the years prior to 2020.

 

The new CBA is changing the max contract length from 8 years to 7, so you definitely won't be seeing any 8 year deals in the future.

The problem with banking on the cap always rising is that eventually it won't. If you play your cards wrong and have a short term deal expire at the wrong time, you will be left in a market where nobody has any money to spend. I can see younger guys being willing to take the chance on a 3-4 year deal right now, but can't see how that would be wise for a player like Kaprizov.

Kaprizov will be 29 when his new deal starts. Say he takes a 3 year deal now, what are the odds he can beat 5 years at $16M when he's 32 years old? And, how much better would it have to be to mitigate the risk of leaving $80M on the table? $16M is already probably 20-30% more than his current value, so counting on $20M contracts to be the norm in 3 years seems a little too optimistic to me. 

 


 
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I have never heard of Fortra, the new Wild away helmet sponsor.

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I'm to the point of not caring if he signs if it's going to cost the Wild $16M+ per year.  He averages about 60 games played per year.  If he goes elsewhere the Wild will have a lot of money to sign other free agents that have a chance to stay on the ice... so long as Bill doesn't piss away that money to resign bottom pair defenseman and 3rd or 4th line centers.

The only bright side of Kaprizov leaving would be that Guerin would be gone as well.

 


 
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Think part of the problem is no one really knows the actual deals of the contracts KKs agent is "turning down" supposedly. what his camp does know is the cap goes to $104 next year and 113.5 the year after and then 123 the following unless something happens where they remove the CBA they agreed on. he knows if he signs for 5-6 years right now there is 0 chance he's getting $16mil on that next contract (at 34-35). at 31 (so a 2-3 year deal), maybe there's a chance you have a bunch of teams with cap (which they all will by simple standing of the cap going up 20mil for every single team and lots of guys locked in already) that are a little more liberal on his deal towards the back half. the "stars" don't hit market often and he qualifies. think that's why you don't see them jumping at a 5-6 year deal as a 2-3 + a 5 year is likely to end him more money than what he'd get just signing for 7-8 right now and he has more opportunities to move and win a title rather than being locked here (at least what's i'm guessing they're thinking)


 
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Think part of the problem is no one really knows the actual deals of the contracts KKs agent is "turning down" supposedly. what his camp does know is the cap goes to $104 next year and 113.5 the year after and then 123 the following unless something happens where they remove the CBA they agreed on. he knows if he signs for 5-6 years right now there is 0 chance he's getting $16mil on that next contract (at 34-35). at 31 (so a 2-3 year deal), maybe there's a chance you have a bunch of teams with cap (which they all will by simple standing of the cap going up 20mil for every single team and lots of guys locked in already) that are a little more liberal on his deal towards the back half. the "stars" don't hit market often and he qualifies. think that's why you don't see them jumping at a 5-6 year deal as a 2-3 + a 5 year is likely to end him more money than what he'd get just signing for 7-8 right now and he has more opportunities to move and win a title rather than being locked here (at least what's i'm guessing they're thinking)

The risk is he signs for 2-3 year and plays only 40 games each season and then who will pay him $16M per year?  First game against Winnipeg and he'll be out 3 weeks.

 


 
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I wonder if they have considered what happens if McDavid signs tomorrow for $15M?


 
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Think part of the problem is no one really knows the actual deals of the contracts KKs agent is "turning down" supposedly. what his camp does know is the cap goes to $104 next year and 113.5 the year after and then 123 the following unless something happens where they remove the CBA they agreed on. he knows if he signs for 5-6 years right now there is 0 chance he's getting $16mil on that next contract (at 34-35). at 31 (so a 2-3 year deal), maybe there's a chance you have a bunch of teams with cap (which they all will by simple standing of the cap going up 20mil for every single team and lots of guys locked in already) that are a little more liberal on his deal towards the back half. the "stars" don't hit market often and he qualifies. think that's why you don't see them jumping at a 5-6 year deal as a 2-3 + a 5 year is likely to end him more money than what he'd get just signing for 7-8 right now and he has more opportunities to move and win a title rather than being locked here (at least what's i'm guessing they're thinking)

The risk is he signs for 2-3 year and plays only 40 games each season and then who will pay him $16M per year?  First game against Winnipeg and he'll be out 3 weeks.

 

hey i mean im not arguing with you, but i've never met an athlete who is betting on themselves getting hurt. you'd assume that he and his agent are weighing all those things and some guys want to just go bet on themselves (see Cousins, Kirk who continually bet on himself and has netted himself $411 million by the time he's done; obviously different sport, but KK wouldn't be the first or last guy to ignore the injury risk and let it ride)

 


 
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When a player like Kaprizov is in their final year of contract, 2025-2026 and able to negotiate their next contract w/ current team for 2026-2027 and forward do they still go off of the current 2025-2026 salary cap of 95.5 million?

1. So the max $ he could get is 20% of 95.5 million?

2. Or are they able to go off of the cap/projected cap for 2026-2027, the year his new deal would kick in?

I am assuming #1?


 
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I am curious, all the promo nights that I am seeing on the Wild schedule are listed as a ticket pack.  The Bobblehead nights are a "Ticket Pack"...  No more first 10,000 fans get a thing, or everyone in attendance gets a team calendar.  Nothing, strictly ticket packs.

So if you're a season ticket holder, you get NONE of these things, and are essentially penalized for being a season ticket holder because you would have to buy duplicate tickets to get the promotion items.

Is this typical across other sports/markets?  Are the in-stadium give aways a thing of the past?  I mean yes, it is usually cheap crap... but I still have a few Wild/Gander Mountain hats, a Puckett Shir-sey, and would often put up a team calendar at my desk at work.  My Wild bobbleheads up on a shelf are Parise, Suter, Pominville, Brodin and Heatley... HAHA, I should just dump them all in the trash.


 
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The deed is done, KK is apparently signed. 

https://twitter.com/mnwild/status/1973029135619424305?s=46&t=UoTCikmOZyJ29kktoNzh-A


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8 for 136 (17AAV). There will be some very unhappy campers with that dollar amount (about 20% more than Drai), but I guess makes sense if the cap does indeed go up 20-25% overall in terms of relative money


 
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It must be the scars from Parise/Suter but I cringe when I see that kind of money being spent on a player.


 
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I vastly prefer this to the alternative.


 
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8 for 136 (17AAV). There will be some very unhappy campers with that dollar amount (about 20% more than Drai), but I guess makes sense if the cap does indeed go up 20-25% overall in terms of relative money

I think I saw KK's deal goes into effect next season so it's essentially a nine year deal.  I presume that is probably a good thing from a cap perspective?

 


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It must be the scars from Parise/Suter but I cringe when I see that kind of money being spent on a player.

The Parise and Suter contracts were fine in regards to cap hit, they each took up 10% of the cap when they started. They also changed the entire course of the franchise.

The 13 year term sucked which also was changed right after they signed in the next collective bargaining agreement, down to 7 year max contracts if you signed with your current team, or 6 as an FA.

As far as KK, its the price of doing business. We are going to see contract values exploded over the next two years with the cap going up significantly.

 


 
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8 for 136 (17AAV). There will be some very unhappy campers with that dollar amount (about 20% more than Drai), but I guess makes sense if the cap does indeed go up 20-25% overall in terms of relative money

I think I saw KK's deal goes into effect next season so it's essentially a nine year deal.  I presume that is probably a good thing from a cap perspective?

 

Correct. He has one year left, this season on his current deal. And then the new 8 year deal and cap hit kicks in, 2026-2027 season.

 


 
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8 for 136 (17AAV). There will be some very unhappy campers with that dollar amount (about 20% more than Drai), but I guess makes sense if the cap does indeed go up 20-25% overall in terms of relative money

The Draisaitl contract was signed last year, its not apples to apples.

Kaprizov will be in the same boat with players like, Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, Artemi Panarin, and Cale Makar and then more in years to follow. He just happens to be the one that signed first, he won't be the highest paid for long.

 


 
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The casual fan in me likes it because the Wild are infinitely more fun to watch with Kaprizov than they are without. 

The die hard fan in me who would like to see a Cup in Minnesota before I die, hates it. It's just a bad contract.

The Kaprizov fan in me really hates it. I don't think he has any idea what he just did to himself and his legacy. The expectations are completely different now. 


 
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8 for 136 (17AAV). There will be some very unhappy campers with that dollar amount (about 20% more than Drai), but I guess makes sense if the cap does indeed go up 20-25% overall in terms of relative money

The Draisaitl contract was signed last year, its not apples to apples.

Kaprizov will be in the same boat with players like, Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, Artemi Panarin, and Cale Makar and then more in years to follow. He just happens to be the one that signed first, he won't be the highest paid for long.

 

Kaprizov has done nothing in this league to be compared to Draisaitl. Mikko Rantanen and Mitch Marner both signed 8 year deals for $12M this summer. Those two are the comparables for Kaprizov 

 


 
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