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Some quotes about Lucius and Knies in this article. from scouts. The readers digest version from me-- Scouts seem to think Lucius will end up a winger. His skating is the issue. Knies-- Has good hands, can score goals. More of a north-south player.

[media] https://twitter.com/BuffaloVogl/status/1412411469124313093 [/media]

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Like many, I thought they'd add an older recruit on defense to complement Mittelstaedt/Chesley next year as they look to replace a good number on the blue line. This of course does not preclude them from doing so but did not expect a high school d-man. Going into senior year at St. Cloud. Anyone know much about him?


   
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17 year old defenseman who played high school in St Cloud. Finished the year with Whioux Falls Stampede in the USHL. Son of former CC captain Eric Rud, who is on the Miami staff.

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This kid's dad captained Don Lucia teams. Kind of fun.


   
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https://twitter.com/THNRyanKennedy/status/1416083729634799620

Story on him from earlier this year. Sounds like a solid get by the staff.

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/meet-the-goalie-every-scout-needs-to-see


   
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Cardinal wrote:

Longest last name in Gopher Hockey history?


   
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Curious if this means Pichora is no longer in their plans. Would be a crowded depth chart with Boynton/Pichora/Bartoszkiewicz with none older than a sophomore.


   
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So, did we just get commitments from the shortest and longest name in Gopher history in the same week?


   
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So, did we just get commitments from the shortest and longest name in Gopher history in the same week?

Rud at least a tie with Kyle Rau. Has to be the longest name...


   
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A Michigan kid, here’s an ARTICLE with some background information.

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Whoops, Cardinal already had the article Oops


   
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He tells it like it is:

"I think I'm a 'money' goalie," Bartoszkiewicz said. "I make big saves when we need big saves. I'm crucial in the stressful moments and I can hold my team in it if we're down by a goal."


   
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GopherPete wrote:

He tells it like it is:

"I think I'm a 'money' goalie," Bartoszkiewicz said. "I make big saves when we need big saves. I'm crucial in the stressful moments and I can hold my team in it if we're down by a goal."

Oh wow, I LOVE the confidence!


   
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Zwak wrote:

Longest last name in Gopher Hockey history?

Correct. Previous record, and I believe still longest first and last combined is Edward Hollingsworth who played in the late-20s/early-30s.


   
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Maize wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Longest last name in Gopher Hockey history?

Correct. Previous record, and I believe still longest first and last combined is Edward Hollingsworth who played in the late-20s/early-30s.

And before anyone asks, no I did not see Hollingsworth play.


   
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Petition to call him Barty


   
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https://www.wichitafallswarriors.com/goaltender-bartoszkiewicz-makes-his-commitment-to-the-university-of-minnesota

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“I chose the Gophers because they have great facilities and their staff and coaches are just amazing along with the players. They are all super nice people, I couldn’t have asked for anything better”, said Bartoszkiewicz. The Michigan born player will be staying up north in a familiar area just a couple of states over to continue his hockey career. “When I was little my dad went to St. Cloud University and they were rivals against Minnesota and I just wanted to go against my dad and I fell in love with the Gophers. The gym, the rink, and the people there were amazing and I could see myself just working hard and being there everyday, all day”.

   
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Iceburg wrote:

Maize wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Longest last name in Gopher Hockey history?

Correct. Previous record, and I believe still longest first and last combined is Edward Hollingsworth who played in the late-20s/early-30s.

And before anyone asks, no I did not see Hollingsworth play.

We’d have asked GE first…even before George ;)


   
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davescharf wrote:

Iceburg wrote:

Maize wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Longest last name in Gopher Hockey history?

Correct. Previous record, and I believe still longest first and last combined is Edward Hollingsworth who played in the late-20s/early-30s.

And before anyone asks, no I did not see Hollingsworth play.

We’d have asked GE first…even before George ;)

That GE… he’s no spring chicken.

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BlueBandit24 wrote:

Curious if this means Pichora is no longer in their plans. Would be a crowded depth chart with Boynton/Pichora/Bartoszkiewicz with none older than a sophomore.

That’s not necessarily true. Pichora could be delayed to the 2023 season. Worst comes to worst we have 4 goalies (which has happened before) with him Boynton, Bart and Close.


   
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Regardless, I like that there will be good competition for the crease in 2022. Whoever the coaches settle on will have big shoes to fill. Not to get too far ahead of ourselves of course, I think Laffer has a legit shot at the hobey this year!


   
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maroon_and_gold wrote:

BlueBandit24 wrote:

Curious if this means Pichora is no longer in their plans. Would be a crowded depth chart with Boynton/Pichora/Bartoszkiewicz with none older than a sophomore.

That’s not necessarily true. Pichora could be delayed to the 2023 season. Worst comes to worst we have 4 goalies (which has happened before) with him Boynton, Bart and Close.

You could very well be right...Pichora will only be 20 in 2023. Just kind of a logjam currently.


   
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Some final thoughts from Scott Wheeler on the draft.

[media] https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1417130211100012556 [/media]

Most underrated--

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“Connor Kurth at Dubuque (Fighting Saints),” said one source of NHL Central Scouting’s 220th-ranked North American skater, who is committed to the University of Minnesota. “He’s producing in the USHL as a late 2003. Reminds me of Matt Hendricks. I could see him carving out a role in the NHL. He’s a sandpaper guy with skill.”

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frozen4champs wrote:

Some final thoughts from Scott Wheeler on the draft.

[media] https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1417130211100012556 [/media]

Most underrated--

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“Connor Kurth at Dubuque (Fighting Saints),” said one source of NHL Central Scouting’s 220th-ranked North American skater, who is committed to the University of Minnesota. “He’s producing in the USHL as a late 2003. Reminds me of Matt Hendricks. I could see him carving out a role in the NHL. He’s a sandpaper guy with skill.”

But I thought sandpaper guys aren’t allowed within 5 miles of Gentry Academy


   
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[media] https://twitter.com/TheHockeyNews/status/1417955300682915841 [/media]

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Owen Bartoszkiewicz, Wichita Falls (NAHL)

A personal favorite of Ryan Kennedy's, Bartoszkiewicz has a tendency to make big saves exactly when his team needs him to – he even refers to himself as a "Money Goalie". He has good size for an NHL prospect and never seems to give up on a play with what scouts describe to be a high compete level. Bartoszkiewicz got most of the starts for the expansion Warriors and was the easy choice for the NAHL's south goalie and rookie of the year awards. Bartoszkiewicz recently committed to play Division I for the University of Minnesota and after a few years of further conditioning, he'll put himself into NHL contention.

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Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.


   
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Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

I would love to see him drop to the Wild. A scoring center sounds nice.


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

I would love to see him drop to the Wild. A scoring center sounds nice.

He won't be a center in the NHL.


   
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Jaykay3 wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

I would love to see him drop to the Wild. A scoring center sounds nice.

He won't be a center in the NHL.

Why?


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

Jaykay3 wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

I would love to see him drop to the Wild. A scoring center sounds nice.

He won't be a center in the NHL.

Why?

He might not be a center in college. Skating is the main “concern” if you can even call it that. Mostly his game just suits the wing position better. Can get set up by a speedy center and bury the biscuit.


   
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Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

This pick is now owned by buffalo so maybe he joins Casey????


   
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maroon_and_gold wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

This pick is now owned by buffalo so maybe he joins Casey????

That would be delicious LoL …thirty-four likely goes anti Lucius by association thou… :ahhh:


   
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Just guessing Gopher recruit/round drafted:

Lucius (Round 1)

Knies (Round 2)

Broz (Round 3)

Kurth (Round 5)

Lamb (Round 6)

Mittelstaedt (Round 6)

Bartoskiewicz (Round 6)


   
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maroon_and_gold wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Jaykay3 wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

I would love to see him drop to the Wild. A scoring center sounds nice.

He won't be a center in the NHL.

Why?

He might not be a center in college. Skating is the main “concern” if you can even call it that. Mostly his game just suits the wing position better. Can get set up by a speedy center and bury the biscuit.

I am not at all doubting you. I know speed isn’t his game and players change positions when they get to the college/pro levels.

But Koivu didn’t exactly have fire shooting out of his butt and played an awfully long time at that position.


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

maroon_and_gold wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Jaykay3 wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Zwak wrote:

Latest mock draft from Cory Pronman at The Athletic has Lucius going 14th to Philadelphia.

https://theathletic.com/2722512/2021/07/23/nhl-mock-draft-3-0-what-im-hearing-about-how-the-first-round-will-play-out/?source=twitterhq

14. Philadelphia: Chaz Lucius, C, U.S. NTDP-USHL

Teams around the league think Philly will go Lucius or Sillinger depending on which is available. Lucius will be an interesting one, as some scouts think he’s a top-13 lock and some think he can get to around 20.

I would love to see him drop to the Wild. A scoring center sounds nice.

He won't be a center in the NHL.

Why?

He might not be a center in college. Skating is the main “concern” if you can even call it that. Mostly his game just suits the wing position better. Can get set up by a speedy center and bury the biscuit.

I am not at all doubting you. I know speed isn’t his game and players change positions when they get to the college/pro levels.

But Koivu didn’t exactly have fire shooting out of his butt and played an awfully long time at that position.

Same can be said for Vanek at wing Wink :biggrin2:


   
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Are we getting to the "something to prove" or "chip on the shoulder" part of the Lucius waiting to get drafted?

Edit... Well there he goes to the Peg

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Lucius to the Jets!


   
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FWIW, Scott Wheeler described Lucius as a "natural pivot" in his draft recap.

Unrelated but he was very complimentary of the Wild's draft as well.


   
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BlueBandit24 wrote:

FWIW, Scott Wheeler described Lucius as a "natural pivot" in his draft recap.

Unrelated but he was very complimentary of the Wild's draft as well.

Before 2nd round started he had Knies as the 8th best prospect still available

8. Matthew Knies, LW, Tri-City-USHL

Oct. 17, 2002 | 6-foot-3 | 210 pounds

Skating: Below-average

Puck Skills: Average

Hockey Sense: Below-average

Compete: Above-average

Shot: Below-average

Knies had a great underage season but his draft season was a struggle to produce as much offense as expected. Despite his mediocre point totals (42 points in 44 games) I still see a very talented player and he was an important player for a top USHL team in all situations. I see a 6-foot-3 forward with great hands who can beat defenders clean with skill. I debated his sense being listed as “average” or “below-average.” I’ve seen enough plays from him, particularly as an underage, to say he can see the ice, but this past season made me question his sense at times and his puck decisions. His game lacks finish as well, although he went on a big goal scoring tear to end the season. Knies works hard on the ice, winning a lot of battles, killing penalties and taking pucks to the net. His skating isn’t the best and will lack the ability to separate at the NHL level. In a sentence, Knies projects as an NHL two-way middle-six winger.


   
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Knies goes to Toronto with pick 57

Broz goes #58 to the Pens.

Back to Back 2nd rounders

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Zwak wrote:

BlueBandit24 wrote:

FWIW, Scott Wheeler described Lucius as a "natural pivot" in his draft recap.

Unrelated but he was very complimentary of the Wild's draft as well.

Before 2nd round started he had Knies as the 8th best prospect still available

8. Matthew Knies, LW, Tri-City-USHL

Oct. 17, 2002 | 6-foot-3 | 210 pounds

Skating: Below-average

Puck Skills: Average

Hockey Sense: Below-average

Compete: Above-average

Shot: Below-average

Knies had a great underage season but his draft season was a struggle to produce as much offense as expected. Despite his mediocre point totals (42 points in 44 games) I still see a very talented player and he was an important player for a top USHL team in all situations. I see a 6-foot-3 forward with great hands who can beat defenders clean with skill. I debated his sense being listed as “average” or “below-average.” I’ve seen enough plays from him, particularly as an underage, to say he can see the ice, but this past season made me question his sense at times and his puck decisions. His game lacks finish as well, although he went on a big goal scoring tear to end the season. Knies works hard on the ice, winning a lot of battles, killing penalties and taking pucks to the net. His skating isn’t the best and will lack the ability to separate at the NHL level. In a sentence, Knies projects as an NHL two-way middle-six winger.

He rates him below average in 3 of 5 categories, but sees him as a 2nd rounder….. :confused2:

What does a 4th round prospect look like? Yikes.


   
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frozen4champs wrote:

Knies goes to Toronto with pick 57

Broz goes #58 to the Pens.

Back to Back 2nd rounders

I like Broz & think he will fit in well (eventually) on the ? ?


   
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Comments about the 2nd rounders from tBob

[media] https://twitter.com/GopherHockey/status/1418982868613804033 [/media]

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bearpaw28 wrote:

frozen4champs wrote:

Knies goes to Toronto with pick 57

Broz goes #58 to the Pens.

Back to Back 2nd rounders

I like Broz & think he will fit in well (eventually) on the ? ?

I love this breakdown of Broz by a Pens writer. The third note is great.

https://twitter.com/jmarshfof/status/1418974219522674694?s=21


   
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Brody Lamb to the Rangers in the early 4th round.


   
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BlueBandit24 wrote:

Brody Lamb to the Rangers in the early 4th round.

Wayyyyy earlier than most were expecting


   
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Video media Q & A with Knies.

A few takeaways--

Had covid early in the USHL year

Shane Doan was his coach when he was young

Has worked out with Matthews in the off season

[media] https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1419077620625461252 [/media]

I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.


   
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bearpaw28 wrote:

frozen4champs wrote:

Knies goes to Toronto with pick 57

Broz goes #58 to the Pens.

Back to Back 2nd rounders

I like Broz & think he will fit in well (eventually) on the ? ?

A lot of the penguins writers had good things to say about his game, excited to see him play for the gophers next year.


   
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Has anyone calculated what the average age of rostered players will be this coming season vs. last year? We all know the importance of experience and I assume we'll be at least a little older, on average this year.


   
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