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Last year Ben Meyers had 5 goals at the break. He finished with 17 while missing time at the Olympics and also scored 2 against the U18’s and 1 against St. Thomas that went uncounted. Who’s most likely to make that sort of jump this year? I got Matthew Knies.
Huglen seems like a guy that could make that kind of jump.
He just needs to shoot more. He likes to dance around people instead of going directly to the net.
Maybe the fans need to holler "shoot" when he has the puck.
Gophers given the best odds to win the title at +500 by Draft kings.
I don’t think anyone needs to eat their words re Brodzinski, he was outmatched in a top 6 role when playing good teams but in a bottom six role his deficiencies are far less obvious and he has more time and space to shoot the puck. Idk why they kept sticking him with Walker last year but it didn’t seem to benefit either of them.Reading back through commentary leading into the season if posters are being honest Brodzinski has to be their surprise player so far. ?
I will gladly eat my words regarding him. I still think its absurd he was on the ice during 3 on 3, and even 4 on 4 seems pretty bizarre considering the skating ability of other players. But I totally underestimated his ability to bury the puck, and his line is obviously one of the X-factors if the Gophers are going to win the title.
Idk why they kept sticking him with Walker last year but it didn’t seem to benefit either of them.Reading back through commentary leading into the season if posters are being honest Brodzinski has to be their surprise player so far. ?
I will gladly eat my words regarding him. I still think its absurd he was on the ice during 3 on 3, and even 4 on 4 seems pretty bizarre considering the skating ability of other players. But I totally underestimated his ability to bury the puck, and his line is obviously one of the X-factors if the Gophers are going to win the title.
Weird that half the people on a message board could see that but the coaches couldn't. Should have had Bonnie Blair's kid center Blake and Sammy.
Weird that half the people on a message board could see that but the coaches couldn't. Should have had Bonnie Blair's kid center Blake and Sammy.
Jess Myers and I had the conversation about Grant centering Blake & Sammy this past weekend. And why it never happened.
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I always thought Cruikshank was under used and posted about it last year. I wish he was still a Gopher this year.
Keep your stick on the ice...
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Can some gamblers tell me what this means?
+500 represents 5:1 odds, so if you bet 100 on the Gophers and they win the championship, you'll win 500 (600 total payout)
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
If I were a gambler (I'm not) I would be tempted to place a bet on PSU at those odds.
I don’t think anyone needs to eat their words re Brodzinski, he was outmatched in a top 6 role when playing good teams but in a bottom six role his deficiencies are far less obvious and he has more time and space to shoot the puck. Idk why they kept sticking him with Walker last year but it didn’t seem to benefit either of them.
I honestly think Brodzinski had the worst fit being paired with Walker and McLaughlin... those two are just pure chaos players that generate most of their chances out of transition and breakdowns by opponents. I think there was some chemistry there by history and personality, but it wasn't going to work with the Gophers schedule. Conversly Nelson and Nevers are structure players that make possession plays by drawing attention, holding onto the puck and creating scoring chances with a ground game.
I clearly can't explain things, but I think hindsight 20/20 that putting Cruikshank between McLaughlin and Walker might have been the better move... maybe then they could have put Brodzinski with Nelson and Huglen... and of course at the start of the year they could have had Knies-Meyers-Lucius and fourth line of Broz-Perbix-Sorenson-Nevers.
If I were a gambler (I'm not) I would be tempted to place a bet on PSU at those odds.
I wouldn’t be tempted in the slightest. Guy Gadowsky doesn’t build teams for the postseason.
Shot across the bow….or on net.
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Well, we're talking about PSU. If it's at their arena, a tip at the top of the circle the goes out of play without even hitting the glass might be called a SOG...Shot across the bow….or on net.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
I don’t think anyone needs to eat their words re Brodzinski, he was outmatched in a top 6 role when playing good teams but in a bottom six role his deficiencies are far less obvious and he has more time and space to shoot the puck. Idk why they kept sticking him with Walker last year but it didn’t seem to benefit either of them.
I clearly can't explain things, but I think hindsight 20/20 that putting Cruikshank between McLaughlin and Walker might have been the better move... maybe then they could have put Brodzinski with Nelson and Huglen... and of course at the start of the year they could have had Knies-Meyers-Lucius and fourth line of Broz-Perbix-Sorenson-Nevers.
It's not hindsight if we were saying it last year!
This is all true, idk the exact line combos but I agree that playing Cruikshank in his regular position prob wouldn’t have hurt and Walker prob shouldn’t have been centering a top 6 fwd line.I don’t think anyone needs to eat their words re Brodzinski, he was outmatched in a top 6 role when playing good teams but in a bottom six role his deficiencies are far less obvious and he has more time and space to shoot the puck. Idk why they kept sticking him with Walker last year but it didn’t seem to benefit either of them.
I honestly think Brodzinski had the worst fit being paired with Walker and McLaughlin... those two are just pure chaos players that generate most of their chances out of transition and breakdowns by opponents. I think there was some chemistry there by history and personality, but it wasn't going to work with the Gophers schedule. Conversly Nelson and Nevers are structure players that make possession plays by drawing attention, holding onto the puck and creating scoring chances with a ground game.
I clearly can't explain things, but I think hindsight 20/20 that putting Cruikshank between McLaughlin and Walker might have been the better move... maybe then they could have put Brodzinski with Nelson and Huglen... and of course at the start of the year they could have had Knies-Meyers-Lucius and fourth line of Broz-Perbix-Sorenson-Nevers.
maybe just realized potential.
Just a bit of trivia. There actually is a word that means "realized potential"
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Thank you for this. I will add it to my mental list of new words for 2022. Previous entries this year were metonym and strobogrammatic. I've probably missed out on many words because I don't read all the threads 🙁
He said strobogrammatic
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If I were a gambler (I'm not) I would be tempted to place a bet on PSU at those odds.
I really like Quinnipiac at the same odds.
Yeah Quinnipiac being 18 to 1 is disrespectful. At this point it would take a collapse for them to not make the NCAA tournament. As a number one or two seed in their region they should be favorite in their first game. With 16 teams in the tournament they should have a better then 1 in 16 chance.
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
I know that polls don't matter until April 10th, and the pairwise is the way to judge how teams are doing, but I do get pleasure that the DUHluth PxP guy gets bent out of shape when it breaks the way of the Gophers.
https://twitter.com/BruceCiskie/status/1604919662965317634
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Anyone that knows me at all realizes how little I agree with Ciskie, but he is right. The polls don't matter and haven't for decades.
I do, however, share in your joy at the particular situation.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
Ciskie sucked when he posted on USCHO all the time way way back l9ng before he was the pxp guy. His takes are just trash.
The polls don't matter so much he felt it necessary to complain. And you know if the teams were reversed he'd have said nothing about it.
Yeah Quinnipiac being 18 to 1 is disrespectful. At this point it would take a collapse for them to not make the NCAA tournament. As a number one or two seed in their region they should be favorite in their first game. With 16 teams in the tournament they should have a better then 1 in 16 chance.
@collegehockeyaddict The odds do get spread out fairly thin if the field only has 1 or 2 really weak teams make the final 16. Most teams who make the tourney at least have a punchers chance, unless they are the auto qualifier from a weaker conference. I made the chart below just as a hypothetical example. The betting odds clearly give more favor to the top seeds/big programs favor but it gives a quick SWAG of how thin the odds can get.
The betting odds are treating Quinnipiac more like my example 1/16 odds for seeds 5-8 which doesn't seem that unreasonable. They have a chance to stay as a top seed but could also drop to a more mid range 8-12 seed team and maybe they think there is some overachievement in their results so far.
SWAG odds for a Hypothetical field of 16
| Seed | Win It All % | Odds Ratio | Example Team (Based on Current Pairwise) | Conference |
| 1 | 12.50% | 1/8 | Minnesota | BIG |
| 2 | 12.50% | 1/8 | Denver | NCHC |
| 3 | 12.50% | 1/8 | Quinnipiac | ECAC |
| 4 | 12.50% | 1/8 | Merrimack | HEA |
| 5 | 6.25% | 1/16 | Penn State | BIG |
| 6 | 6.25% | 1/16 | St Cloud State | NCHC |
| 7 | 6.25% | 1/16 | Boston University | HEA |
| 8 | 6.25% | 1/16 | Michigan State | BIG |
| 9 | 4.17% | 1/24 | Ohio State | BIG |
| 10 | 4.17% | 1/24 | Connecticut | HEA |
| 11 | 4.17% | 1/24 | Michigan | BIG |
| 12 | 3.13% | 1/32 | Massachusetts | HEA |
| 13 | 3.13% | 1/32 | Harvard | ECAC |
| 14 | 3.13% | 1/32 | Mass Lowell | HEA |
| 15 | 3.12% | ~1/32 | Bemidji / MN State | CCHA |
| 16 | 0.00% | ~ | Atlantic Tourney winner (RIT) | Atlantic |
| Total Odds | 100.00% |
For what its worth, a #1 seed has won the championship 11 out of 19 times since the 4 region 16 team format started. This gives an implied win% of 14.47% for each top seed. Surprisingly the #2 seeds have only won 3 times. of course this is a small sample.
| Year | Championship Team | Seed | Rough 4 team Tier (16 teams) | Format | # |
| 2003 | Minnesota (5) | #1 West | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 1 |
| 2004 | Denver (6) | #2 West | 5-8 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 2 |
| 2005 | Denver (7) | #1 North east | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 3 |
| 2006 | Wisconsin (6) | #1 Midwest | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 4 |
| 2007 | Michigan State (3) | #3 Midwest | 9-12 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 5 |
| 2008 | Boston College (3) | #2North east | 5-8 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 6 |
| 2009 | Boston University (5) | #1 North east | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 7 |
| 2010 | Boston College (4) | #1 North east | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 8 |
| 2011 | Minnesota–Duluth | #3 East | 9-12 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 9 |
| 2012 | Boston College (5) | #1 North east | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 10 |
| 2013 | Yale | #4 West | 13-16 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 11 |
| 2014 | Union | #1 East | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 12 |
| 2015 | Providence | #4 East | 13-16 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 13 |
| 2016 | North Dakota (8) | #1 Midwest | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 14 |
| 2017 | Denver (8) | #1 Midwest | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 15 |
| 2018 | Minnesota–Duluth (2) | #3 West | 9-12 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 16 |
| 2019 | Minnesota–Duluth (3) | #1 Midwest | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 17 |
| 2020 | Covid | 4 Regions--16 Teams | |||
| 2021 | Massachusetts | #2 East | 5-8 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 18 |
| 2022 | Denver (9) | #1 East | 1-4 | 4 Regions--16 Teams | 19 |
| Seed Tier | # of Championships for teams in given 4 team set | % | Implied odds for each team in that tier (Even Spread) |
| 1-4 | 11 | 57.89% | 14.47% |
| 5-8 | 3 | 15.79% | 3.95% |
| 9-12 | 3 | 15.79% | 3.95% |
| 13-16 | 2 | 10.53% | 2.63% |
| Subtotal | 19 | 100.00% | --- |
I know that polls don't matter until April 10th, and the pairwise is the way to judge how teams are doing, but I do get pleasure that the DUHluth PxP guy gets bent out of shape when it breaks the way of the Gophers.
We are just that good. ?
tArrogance is in full swing again.
wasn’t it just a few weeks ago when we swept a ranked team and Denver lost to an unranked and still became number one? (Green msu and asu respectively, I think). The polls have been weird this year.
An interesting listen/watch of this weeks podcast. Jess gets into a tussle with the rest of the writers about Chaz Lucius. Jess still claims him as a Gopher on the World Junior team and the rest are not having it. It appears Jess also will go to his grave defending the Lucius Family and says they are great people. That somewhat contradicts what I recall Jup and Vegoe vaguely hinting about what may have happened in Boston at the Frozen Four. I hope someday we will get the rest of the story about what really happened.
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Do I like the Lucius family? Not really. Do we get to claim Chaz as a Gopher? Yes.
I personally don’t. He played here for a year and left unceremoniously under, shall we say, interesting circumstances. Sure, he’s a gopher alumni. But I don’t claim him in regards to the WJC team and stuff like that. Was last year all his fault? No, probably not. We’ll also probably never know exactly what happened. I can’t imagine all of the pressure he was under from all sides but at the end of the day he left, like I said, under interesting circumstances, didn’t do much while he was here, and from the sounds of it, didn’t make much of an effort to be part of the team while he was here. Not to mention all of the nonsense with his parents and then his brother switching his commitment to Wisconsin. Best of luck Lucius family. After years of hearing how much they wanted to be Gophers, their time with the program was short but certainly entertaining.
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Don’t have a game thread to throw this in, so putting it here.
The home game against St Cloud has potential to be a sellout. Pretty exciting. I think the atmosphere in St. Cloud Saturday will also be great. Already looking forward to that weekend.
Don’t have a game thread to throw this in, so putting it here.
The home game against St Cloud has potential to be a sellout. Pretty exciting. I think the atmosphere in St. Cloud Saturday will also be great. Already looking forward to that weekend.
Will the students be back from break?
Don’t have a game thread to throw this in, so putting it here.
The home game against St Cloud has potential to be a sellout. Pretty exciting. I think the atmosphere in St. Cloud Saturday will also be great. Already looking forward to that weekend.
Will the students be back from break?
No they aren't. Hopefully a decent chunk show up though.
Don’t have a game thread to throw this in, so putting it here.
The home game against St Cloud has potential to be a sellout. Pretty exciting. I think the atmosphere in St. Cloud Saturday will also be great. Already looking forward to that weekend.
Will the students be back from break?
No they aren't. Hopefully a decent chunk show up though.
They resume class the following Monday it appears so I would not be surprised if a few come back early for a Saturday night game. I’d be willing to bet a majority of the students don’t come from too far away either.
They resume class the following Monday it appears so I would not be surprised if a few come back early for a Saturday night game. I’d be willing to bet a majority of the students don’t come from too far away either.
It is a Sunday afternoon game at Mariucci. They should be back.
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They resume class the following Monday it appears so I would not be surprised if a few come back early for a Saturday night game. I’d be willing to bet a majority of the students don’t come from too far away either.
It is a Sunday afternoon game at Mariucci. They should be back.
sorry, I was thinking the game in st. cloud. But yeah, if the U starts up again Monday the students definitely should be back!
Have there been recent changes to the academic schedule? I thought Spring Semester starts after MLK.
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Have there been recent changes to the academic schedule? I thought Spring Semester starts after MLK.
It does, you are correct
Jimmy Snuggerud acknowledges Lucius as a former Gopher in the latest episode of “Gopher talk” with Mike Grimm ?? ok now I’m over it
Jimmy Snuggerud acknowledges Lucius as a former Gopher in the latest episode of “Gopher talk” with Mike Grimm ?? ok now I’m over it
Lol well if he’s good enough for Snuggy, maybe he should be good enough for me.
The Gophers will sweep St. Cloud this year! I'm looking forward to watching them win 2 years in a row now in Granite city.
Don’t have a game thread to throw this in, so putting it here.
The home game against St Cloud has potential to be a sellout. Pretty exciting. I think the atmosphere in St. Cloud Saturday will also be great. Already looking forward to that weekend.
Will the students be back from break?
No they aren't. Hopefully a decent chunk show up though.
They resume class the following Monday it appears so I would not be surprised if a few come back early for a Saturday night game. I’d be willing to bet a majority of the students don’t come from too far away either.
St. Cloud fans/students don't come from too far away because their main mode of transportation is a snow mobile. ?
Should be lots of Polaris jackets with this cold!
Don’t have a game thread to throw this in, so putting it here.
The home game against St Cloud has potential to be a sellout. Pretty exciting. I think the atmosphere in St. Cloud Saturday will also be great. Already looking forward to that weekend.
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