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How many times does Close need to make a boneheaded decision to realize he should stay in net more often?


   
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Certainly looked like a hand pass to me. Called it out while the play occurred 

I was in section 15 and had a really good view.  I couldn't believe they didn't call it live.  

Kronforst has done us no favors over the years.  Don't know what his deal is.  

 


   
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Heartbreaking loss, it was good experience for Airey. Now they can warm up and win the Big 10 tourney. After that win it all in St. Paul and we will all be happy! Go Gophers!!


   
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For a coach,  that was a terrible game. Lack of effort for 2 full periods and then run-and-gun hockey while giving up two key 3rd period goals due to sloppiness and bad coverage.

Fun to watch Michigan choke up valuable pairwise points but on the whole it was a careless, undisciplined game. 


   
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How many times does Close need to make a boneheaded decision to realize he should stay in net more often?

Maybe it’s a sign… Hauser would make bonehead decisions and leave the net and he ended up winning us an Nat’l Championship.

 

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Sometimes you have to be selfish with the puck and take the damn shot.  Funny thing is they did that in the third and good things happened.  

Brods did some great work along the offensive boards on at least two of the goals.  

Senior night is an enigma, no mater if you do it before or after it doesn't work and doing it after a lost is really anticlimactic.

23 had a great weekend

The place was rocking after the 4th goal and if a remember correctly a goofy bounce just inside the O zone gave u-mi the puck and numbers for the go ahead goal

The u-mi PP is really impressive, the move around and snap of passes.  The Gophers not so much

I hope the team learned the importance of intensity, be interesting to hear if it as team driven of if the coaches did something to flip the switch.  I hope it was team driven 

Once Close hesitated slightly coming out to play the puck, and he did, on the third goal it was over.  

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Postgame--

Of note, Nevers is usually a pretty happy go lucky guy, and you can tell he was pissed...

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If it makes you all feel better, they (the officiating crew) are debating the call at the bar. 


   
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I also thought the penalty on Fish was lame. 


   
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What a crazy game. I have no concerns with this team other than the power play.


   
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If it makes you all feel better, they (the officiating crew) are debating the call at the bar. 

With each other or fans?

 


   
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Postgame--

Of note, Nevers is usually a pretty happy go lucky guy, and you can tell he was pissed...

Once his playing days are over Nevers seems like a future coach.

 

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If it makes you all feel better, they (the officiating crew) are debating the call at the bar. 

With each other or fans?

 

 each other: Very matter of fact with fans as to what they saw/why they called it as they did

 


   




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If it makes you all feel better, they (the officiating crew) are debating the call at the bar. 

With each other or fans?

 

 each other: Very matter of fact with fans as to what they saw/why they called it as they did

 

Are they willing to give an opinion on the "Contact to the head" call in the OSU/PSU game last night?

 

B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?


   
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If it makes you all feel better, they (the officiating crew) are debating the call at the bar. 

With each other or fans?

 

 each other: Very matter of fact with fans as to what they saw/why they called it as they did

 

Are they willing to give an opinion on the "Contact to the head" call in the OSU/PSU game last night?

 

 didn’t ask, but don’t think they watch all the other games/plays based on how it sounded. Nice guys overall. Tough job

 


   
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Couple of thoughts from last night--

I thought they were dead in the water, and am glad they showed some fight with the comeback.

The crowd was LOUD in the 3rd. 

Everything is going in for the Farm Kid now. Before he could not buy a goal.

Glad Lamb got a goal. He had a ton of good chances this weekend.

I hope this game serves as a wakeup call for the playoffs ahead.

 

 

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Posted by: @frozen4champs

The crowd was LOUD in the 3rd.

It maxed out at 116 decibels on the app I had on my phone. That was from the press box. 

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Does anyone have a clip of the alleged “hand pass”? I was listening to the game and didn’t see it. Frank, Wally, and Pat seemed to think that there might have been something there but the trio seemed a little split on if there was enough to overturn it. 


   
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I also thought the penalty on Fish was lame. 

You dont see matchings much. Almost all the time you see the hook called, but not the hold. 

 

Keep your stick on the ice...


   
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I knew Michigan needed a win. Didn’t know how much an OT win vs regulation was going to affect them. Was curious after we tied it at 5 if they considered pulling their goalie to try and get the regulation win. 


   




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When mich did that victory formation knee celly at 4-1 that got my kid all wound up! (I can’t repeat those words)and it woke up the gophers, intensity rose  up to where it needed to be before that. 


   
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The worst goal of the night was McGroarty's in the 3rd period. A simple wrister got tipped and Airey made a nice pad save on it.  Unfortunately for him, Rinzel and Fish were standing there leaving McGroarty alone. They didn't even get a stick on him. Defense 101...don't get caught watching the puck and tie up your guy...no excuses for that one.

The Gophers' appalling two-period effort left them with a 3-goal deficit, forcing them into playing undisciplined hockey, which is exactly what Michigan does. When you play like it's Saturday afternoon at the outdoor rink, it's anybody's game. It seems odd to say, but Michigan probably deserved to take an L last night for their epic collapse.

It's too bad that Minnesota was likewise careless in their defensive zone in the third. They would have stolen that game.

Side note, I liked Airey's game last night. He came out to challenge shots and made a couple of nice stops. He looks bigger in the net than Close and he's athletic and mobile.


   
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@streakygopher Mine was the 3-0. You don’t see the full ice on tv so I’m guessing close was trying to spring someone on a break and trying to make something happen there? Otherwise it didn’t make much sense to me as his teammate was getting to the puck first anyway.


   
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@streakygopher Mine was the 3-0. You don’t see the full ice on tv so I’m guessing close was trying to spring someone on a break and trying to make something happen there? Otherwise it didn’t make much sense to me as his teammate was getting to the puck first anyway.

Well, yes, but at that point, I was almost resigned to a loss and that silly gaffe was the icing on the cake.

McGroarty's goal was a bitter pill because it was a fundamental defensive breakdown that scuttled an improbable comeback. In the middle of a scoring frenzy that had to happen.  Play basic defense there and the Gophers win that game.

Then you have that stupid play by Pitlick that gave Michigan a dreaded 4-3 power play...woof...what was he thinking?

 


   
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@streakygopher Yes, and as the comeback mounted I felt worse and worse for Close because you knew what he was thinking about the whole time. I hope he doesn’t blame himself for the loss because the list of breakdowns/mistakes in that one is long.


   
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Weekly reminder that John Mittelstadt might be the best player on the team


   
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Weekly reminder that John Mittelstadt might be the best player on the team

Um, well, no he's not, but your point is well taken. He's got some wheels, and he's added confidence to his game.

That fourth line, Pino included, has become a match-up problem for other teams. That's what you want in a fourth line...don't get scored on but what a bonus if you can play in the opponent's end of the rink.

 


   




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Airey definitely looks the part. Excited for his future. 


   
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@streakygopher Mine was the 3-0. You don’t see the full ice on tv so I’m guessing close was trying to spring someone on a break and trying to make something happen there? Otherwise it didn’t make much sense to me as his teammate was getting to the puck first anyway.

I don't think he was trying to spring someone on a break. It looked to me like he was trying to bank it off the boards and out of the zone. Unfortunately, it was a weak clearing attempt and went right to the MI player. Three seconds later it was in the back of the net.

 

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Weekly reminder that John Mittelstadt might be the best player on the team

Um, well, no he's not, but your point is well taken. He's got some wheels, and he's added confidence to his game.

That fourth line, Pino included, has become a match-up problem for other teams. That's what you want in a fourth line...don't get scored on but what a bonus if you can play in the opponent's end of the rink.

 

Haha obviously I’m joking but he could not be a more impactful player when he’s on ice. Wins every shift he’s out there.

 


   
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Weekly reminder that John Mittelstadt might be the best player on the team

Um, well, no he's not, but your point is well taken. He's got some wheels, and he's added confidence to his game.

That fourth line, Pino included, has become a match-up problem for other teams. That's what you want in a fourth line...don't get scored on but what a bonus if you can play in the opponent's end of the rink.

 

Haha obviously I’m joking but he could not be a more impactful player when he’s on ice. Wins every shift he’s out there.

 

The kid is being outscored by the goaltender

 


   
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I also thought the penalty on Fish was lame. 

You dont see matchings much. Almost all the time you see the hook called, but not the hold.  

We thought this was a good call in the press box... A clear hook and a clear holding the stick.

 

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I also thought the penalty on Fish was lame. 

You dont see matchings much. Almost all the time you see the hook called, but not the hold.  

We thought this was a good call in the press box... A clear hook and a clear holding the stick.

 

I would agree and would like to see matching more often. Cause it does happen and the stripes just call the hook.

 

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@streakygopher Mine was the 3-0. You don’t see the full ice on tv so I’m guessing close was trying to spring someone on a break and trying to make something happen there? Otherwise it didn’t make much sense to me as his teammate was getting to the puck first anyway.

Well, yes, but at that point, I was almost resigned to a loss and that silly gaffe was the icing on the cake.

McGroarty's goal was a bitter pill because it was a fundamental defensive breakdown that scuttled an improbable comeback. In the middle of a scoring frenzy that had to happen.  Play basic defense there and the Gophers win that game.

Maybe. If he doesn't score that goal it's not a given that Mitts or any other Gopher scores to take the hypothetical lead as the game likely plays differently tied than UMi up a goal. 

But your overall point is right in that it was a bad goal to give up both for how and when. 

 


   
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Weekly reminder that John Mittelstadt might be the best player on the team

Um, well, no he's not, but your point is well taken. He's got some wheels, and he's added confidence to his game.

That fourth line, Pino included, has become a match-up problem for other teams. That's what you want in a fourth line...don't get scored on but what a bonus if you can play in the opponent's end of the rink.

 

Haha obviously I’m joking but he could not be a more impactful player when he’s on ice. Wins every shift he’s out there.

 

The kid is being outscored by the goaltender

 

Your sarcastic quip doesn’t change the fact he wins every race and every battle he faces every game. The definition of consistent.

 


   
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Weekly reminder that John Mittelstadt might be the best player on the team

Um, well, no he's not, but your point is well taken. He's got some wheels, and he's added confidence to his game.

That fourth line, Pino included, has become a match-up problem for other teams. That's what you want in a fourth line...don't get scored on but what a bonus if you can play in the opponent's end of the rink.

 

Haha obviously I’m joking but he could not be a more impactful player when he’s on ice. Wins every shift he’s out there.

 

The kid is being outscored by the goaltender

 

Your sarcastic quip doesn’t change the fact he wins every race and every battle he faces every game. The definition of consistent.

 

Ignore him. He doesn't watch the games and that's as politely as I'll address his offerings around here.

 


   
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If that wasn't a hand pass what was it? It's the only possible explanation.


   
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If that wasn't a hand pass what was it? It's the only possible explanation.

The videos were not conclusive. Regardless the whistle should have been blown after the Michigan player laid on the puck at the blueline. 

 

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If that wasn't a hand pass what was it? It's the only possible explanation.

The videos were not conclusive. Regardless the whistle should have been blown after the Michigan player laid on the puck at the blueline. 

 

It was pushed with a forearm, Also Huglen was the next to touch the puck so even if he did use his hand the play goes since it was a Gopher to touch the puck next 

 


   
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If that wasn't a hand pass what was it? It's the only possible explanation.

The videos were not conclusive. Regardless the whistle should have been blown after the Michigan player laid on the puck at the blueline. 

 

It was pushed with a forearm, Also Huglen was the next to touch the puck so even if he did use his hand the play goes since it was a Gopher to touch the puck next 

 

Huglen would have to control the puck to negate a handpass.

Arguing about a handpass is silly anyway when you consider that the officials allowed Brindley to cover the puck for about 3 seconds. Even gave him time to roll over and turn around. 

 


   




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If that wasn't a hand pass what was it? It's the only possible explanation.

The videos were not conclusive. Regardless the whistle should have been blown after the Michigan player laid on the puck at the blueline. 

 

It was pushed with a forearm, Also Huglen was the next to touch the puck so even if he did use his hand the play goes since it was a Gopher to touch the puck next 

 

Huglen would have to control the puck to negate a handpass.

Arguing about a handpass is silly anyway when you consider that the officials allowed Brindley to cover the puck for about 3 seconds. Even gave him time to roll over and turn around. 

 

That was shoddy officiating. The puck wasn't visible, and Brindley made no effort to get back on his skates to keep the puck moving. The refs allowed Michigan to keep its offensive zone possession when there should have been a faceoff outside the zone or even a delay-of-game called on Brindley.

A whistle should have been blown because you're either allowing an intentional puck freeze or neglecting to protect a player who can't get up. What was Huglen supposed to do, spear Brindley in the gut until he gave up the puck?

 

 

 


   
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From what I know... The video review had some video that was very pixelated and they could not tell. Also, there was also some sort of question about even if it was a missed hand pass... There was something about it not leading to an imminent goal that may have also come in to affect? It was loud at the location where we got some insight on the call, so I am not exactly sure.

 

For me... It all comes back to Pitlick taking that dumb penalty at the end of the 3rd. THAT is the reason the game was lost in OT, not a call by the ref on replay.

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From what I know... The video review had some video that was very pixelated and they could not tell. Also, there was also some sort of question about even if it was a missed hand pass... There was something about it not leading to an imminent goal that may have also come in to affect? It was loud at the location where we got some insight on the call, so I am not exactly sure.

 

For me... It all comes back to Pitlick taking that dumb penalty at the end of the 3rd. THAT is the reason the game was lost in OT, not a call by the ref on replay.

apparently takes several minutes for the HD feed to become available. Feeling was that Huglen was next to play the puck (which would deem possession, which to me seems suspect at the very least). Pretty sure imminent goal doesn't matter as the puck never left the attack zone (same as for offsides). I could get if they'd just said it stood, but they used the language confirmed which is really odd to me.

 

Regardless, Pitlick cannot make that hit as you say. Just brain dead and seems like a guy who's really pressing right now with 5 points in his last 10 games. same as Snuggy who has 2 points in his last 7 games (Moore with 6 points in his last 8). Luckily we've had a lot of scoring from Huglen and Nelson over that period of dip, but that's not going to be sustainable for a postseason run to have the top line disappear. 

 


   
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Of all the calls that have involved the Gophers this year, this is the one I can see where the replay was inconclusive.  When I was at the arena, I couldn't tell what happened, but after seeing the replay on TV, I can't argue what was called. There was lots going on there. Huglen touched it once, but did the Michigan player do it again? Tough to see. If anything, like others have said, maybe the whistle should have been blown when the player went down. I will use the words that some refs use, Judgement Call. 😉 I just hope we are done with the questionable replays this year. 

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When the replays began I said whoa, they’re gonna have to zoom that way in somehow because no way can you get anything from that, some later replays were better but still an elbow movement in the direction the puck came free wasn’t gonna be very convincing imo.


   
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Why can't they just turn on the tv for replays?

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Posted by: @frozen4champs

Of all the calls that have involved the Gophers this year, this is the one I can see where the replay was inconclusive.  When I was at the arena, I couldn't tell what happened, but after seeing the replay on TV, I can't argue what was called. There was lots going on there. Huglen touched it once, but did the Michigan player do it again? Tough to see. If anything, like others have said, maybe the whistle should have been blown when the player went down. I will use the words that some refs use, Judgement Call. 😉 I just hope we are done with the questionable replays this year. 

I agree that it probably would have been tough to see on review (although I haven't gone back and watched the recording to see).  It was one of those things that was really obvious being at the game, but I had a great angle being halfway up section 15.  I called it out right away to my son, but when the refs on the ice didn't call it I figured there was no way they'd overturn it.  I'd also be curious to watch the recording to see where the refs were.  One of them should have caught it.

Have we had a single controversial call go our way this year (can think of about 5)?  The last one I can remember that went our way was against St. Cloud 2 or 3 seasons ago. 


   




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