The problem with adding Brock to the Wild is the Wild already have enough 6’0″ 190 lb defenseman….or smaller.
Benn has size and he’s a goddam cone out there
Faber is basically Brodin size and I think Faber plays bigger than his listed weight. I don't think his size is necessarily an issue as I think people tend to overestimate how big the average NHL player actually is listed at league-wide.
"The average NHLer is 73.33" (6' 1 1/3") tall, weighs 204.42 lbs, and is 27.36 years old. The average forward is 72.93" (6' 1") tall, weighs 202.4 lbs, and is 27.1 years old."
I'm sure Faber could add a few pounds and be just fine as he matures.
I don't think Faber's size will hamper him at much at all. That's just not his game. I do agree with the point that you can't build an entire d-core of poke checkers though. I would try to build a defense with 4 guys like Brodin, Dumba, Faber and then have a right handed and left handed version of a Jacob Middleton type player. Ryan O'Roarke isn't a huge guy, but he plays with quite a bit of ahole in his game
I don’t think Faber’s size will hamper him at much at all. That’s just not his game. I do agree with the point that you can’t build an entire d-core of poke checkers though. I would try to build a defense with 4 guys like Brodin, Dumba, Faber and then have a right handed and left handed version of a Jacob Middleton type player. Ryan O’Roarke isn’t a huge guy, but he plays with quite a bit of ahole in his game
Yes. Individually the size isn't an issue. But in the NHL you need defenseman with size and the Wild are not very big on the blue line.
Stanley Cup winning Av's top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5'11" 187lb
Devon Toews 6'1" 191lb
Bo Byram 6'1" 190lb
Sam Girard 5'10" 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren't their top players.
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
And Jack Johnson, who is thick. Girard missed the last 2 series, that’s a deep D core. I’m Avs are one of few (maybe the only team) with a better Defenseman group than the Bolts…the difference being Makar!
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
But Manson and Johnson ate up a bunch of PK minutes and that allows Colorado to run a smaller group of D at even strength.
Elite Prospects lists Faber at 6' 190. Gophersports.com has him at 6'1" 200. Seems to me his size isn't an issue.
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
It's not a universal rule. If you have to talent at forward that the Avs enjoy and a player like Makar on the blue line, you can obviously win with smaller D corps. But I've seen the Wild get pushed around in the playoff after flourishing in the regular season. It gets old. Size does make a difference once the big boy pants go on.
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
It’s not a universal rule. If you have to talent at forward that the Avs enjoy and a player like Makar on the blue line, you can obviously win with smaller D corps. But I’ve seen the Wild get pushed around in the playoff after flourishing in the regular season. It gets old. Size does make a difference once the big boy pants go on.
Also, Girard got absolutely destroyed by a clean hit in Game 3 of their second round series by a league average sized forward and missed the final 2.5 series. Size is more important once the playoffs start for certain.
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
It’s not a universal rule. If you have to talent at forward that the Avs enjoy and a player like Makar on the blue line, you can obviously win with smaller D corps. But I’ve seen the Wild get pushed around in the playoff after flourishing in the regular season. It gets old. Size does make a difference once the big boy pants go on.
Also, Girard got absolutely destroyed by a clean hit in Game 3 of their second round series by a league average sized forward and missed the final 2.5 series. Size is more important once the playoffs start for certain.
lol…Barbachev had Girard in a vulnerable position behind the Avs net retrieving a puck and literally left his feet while delivering the hit…so calling that a clean hit is laughable (whether it resulted in a penalty or not) it was thrown in a dirty manner. But…what comes around goes around…that’s what happened subsequently, when Kadri ran the Blues goalie, knocking him out of the series (too).
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
It’s not a universal rule. If you have to talent at forward that the Avs enjoy and a player like Makar on the blue line, you can obviously win with smaller D corps. But I’ve seen the Wild get pushed around in the playoff after flourishing in the regular season. It gets old. Size does make a difference once the big boy pants go on.
Also, Girard got absolutely destroyed by a clean hit in Game 3 of their second round series by a league average sized forward and missed the final 2.5 series. Size is more important once the playoffs start for certain.
lol…Barbachev had Girard in a vulnerable position behind the Avs net retrieving a puck and literally left his feet while delivering the hit…so calling that a clean hit is laughable (whether it resulted in a penalty or not) it was thrown in a dirty manner. But…what comes around goes around…that’s what happened subsequently, when Kadri ran the Blues goalie, knocking him out of the series (too).
He didn’t leave his feet to hit him, when contact occurs, you leave your feet, big difference. It would have been boarding possibly in the regular season. It’s hard to argue that a league average D Man isn’t less likely to end up with a fractured sternum in my opinion. This isn’t a Blues thing, it’s I’d prefer 4 league average D and 2 shrimps at most. Perunovich gets hurt climbing the boards…
I'll disagree with the statement that "when contact occurs, you leave your feet"
Lots of players are in control when they initiate checks and do not leave their feet
Stanley Cup winning Av’s top defensemen:
Cale Makar 5’11” 187lb
Devon Toews 6’1″ 191lb
Bo Byram 6’1″ 190lb
Sam Girard 5’10” 170lb
Yes, they have Manson & Erik Johnson but those guys aren’t their top players.
It’s not a universal rule. If you have to talent at forward that the Avs enjoy and a player like Makar on the blue line, you can obviously win with smaller D corps. But I’ve seen the Wild get pushed around in the playoff after flourishing in the regular season. It gets old. Size does make a difference once the big boy pants go on.
Also, Girard got absolutely destroyed by a clean hit in Game 3 of their second round series by a league average sized forward and missed the final 2.5 series. Size is more important once the playoffs start for certain.
lol…Barbachev had Girard in a vulnerable position behind the Avs net retrieving a puck and literally left his feet while delivering the hit…so calling that a clean hit is laughable (whether it resulted in a penalty or not) it was thrown in a dirty manner. But…what comes around goes around…that’s what happened subsequently, when Kadri ran the Blues goalie, knocking him out of the series (too).
He didn’t leave his feet to hit him, when contact occurs, you leave your feet, big difference. It would have been boarding possibly in the regular season. It’s hard to argue that a league average D Man isn’t less likely to end up with a fractured sternum in my opinion. This isn’t a Blues thing, it’s I’d prefer 4 league average D and 2 shrimps at most. Perunovich gets hurt climbing the boards…
It was a dirty hit…period. As far as your comment about Perunovich…well…he can’t hear U, he has an NCAA Championship ring plugging both ears ??
Then I guess you should stick to watching Squirt games. As far as Puny sticking his rings in his ears, he did and he's going to be out for 40 games with ear chafing.
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https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1544714704995504128
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Seems like a really good deal to get a 3rd year out of Middleton at that price. I thought he was really good for the Wild and helped Spurgeon quite a bit.
Hoping we get one of Snuggerud, Chesley or Rinzel?
With two picks in each of the first two rounds I’ll be curious if they bundle some to move up or if they take 4 players.
I like the idea of drafting 4 solid players and hope they develop into NHL talent in a few years.
But I don’t know where the talent pool drops off. Good luck to the Wild!
With two picks in each of the first two rounds I’ll be curious if they bundle some to move up or if they take 4 players.
I like the idea of drafting 4 solid players and hope they develop into NHL talent in a few years.
But I don’t know where the talent pool drops off. Good luck to the Wild!
From what I have heard/read, the top end of the draft isn't anything special but there's an unusual number of "solid" prospects. Probably explains why we have seen a guy like Rinzel projected to go anywhere from around #20 to somewhere in the 50's.
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Hope Guerin has a deal lined up elsewhere to move Talbot, otherwise this deal makes very little sense
Hope Guerin has a deal lined up elsewhere to move Talbot, otherwise this deal makes very little sense
I’d be fine with Talbot and a young backup with potential. Didn’t see anything in the playoffs from Fleury to think he’s gonna carry the Wild anywhere.
I'd be fine with either Talbot or Fleury and a young backup. When you're already strapped for cash, I don't see how having two 35+ year old #1 goalies makes any sense.
Hope Guerin has a deal lined up elsewhere to move Talbot, otherwise this deal makes very little sense
I’d be fine with Talbot and a young backup with potential. Didn’t see anything in the playoffs from Fleury to think he’s gonna carry the Wild anywhere.
I’d be fine with either Talbot or Fleury and a young backup. When you’re already strapped for cash, I don’t see how having two 35+ year old #1 goalies makes any sense.
Trade Talbot for a draft pick and be done. Send him to Arizona.
Please take Brad Lambert. Thanks
https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1545084576707526662?s=20&t=TXcqM5F6Zzmpifs2P6zrQQ
Also as iffy as Talbot is I'd have preferred they not re-sign MAF.
Wonder what Mrs Talbot has to say about it? :popcorn:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1545442089642725379
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During the third round?
Does that mean Cam's agent doesn't think he's worth any more than a fourth round choice? B-)
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Also as iffy as Talbot is I’d have preferred they not re-sign MAF.
It may be my brain fog due to me being sick, but I don't get why you didn't want them to resign MAF because Talbot is "iffy?" What do you mean?
Wonder what Mrs Talbot has to say about it?
Cam Talbot's agent George Bazos met with Wild GM Bill Guerin during the third round here.
“We both stated our positions,'' Bazos said via text message. “Billy has a lot to think about.''
?— Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) July 8, 2022
It sounds like Talbot wants out (backs up his wife's stance after the playoffs). "We both stated our positions" sounds like a nice way to say Bazos demanded Bill he needs to do move Talbot. Weird to do in the middle of the draft.
I know what they say about assumptions, but I can't help it. It's a good thing I am not a GM, because I'd take this and park his arse at the end of the bench for all games except back-to-backs.
How do you re-sign Fleury without at least knowing Talbot's thoughts on it? What a cluster-
How do you re-sign Fleury without at least knowing Talbot’s thoughts on it? What a cluster-
I've heard Guerin interviewed about the goalie situation recently and he was point blank asked how he's handling it. Bill said he hoped to resign "Flower." But he also made a point to clearly state "Talbot is under contract so he isn't going anywhere." I thought at the time it was a message to Talbot and his agent.
Bill knows Talbot's thoughts on it. No doubt in my mind.
How do you re-sign Fleury without at least knowing Talbot’s thoughts on it? What a cluster-
I think Cam knew all along this was a possibility and what do you think his response would have been? I guess I'm old school. If you think you should be the #1 goalie, go out and prove it on the ice. We just got done with 10 years of 2 players being GM's in the locker room, so I don't want to go back to those days.
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How do you re-sign Fleury without at least knowing Talbot’s thoughts on it? What a cluster-
I think Cam knew all along this was a possibility and what do you think his response would have been? I guess I’m old school. If you think you should be the #1 goalie, go out and prove it on the ice. We just got done with 10 years of 2 players being GM’s in the locker room, so I don’t want to go back to those days.
Talbot did exactly that. Billy's guy still got to start the playoffs
Guerin has confirmed both players could miss the start of the season https://t.co/lIVCWY0boz — Michael Russo (@RussoHockey) July 7, 2022
Also as iffy as Talbot is I’d have preferred they not re-sign MAF.
It may be my brain fog due to me being sick, but I don’t get why you didn’t want them to resign MAF because Talbot is “iffy?” What do you mean?
I'm saying that while Talbot might not be a top-flight goalie in the league, I think they still could do without MAF.
Fluery was 9-2 with a 2.74 GAA and 910 SV%
Talbot was 32-12-4 with a 2.76 GAA and 911 SV%
Seems like a coin flip to me, but I did state at the time they should have gone to Cam earlier in the playoffs.
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Fluery was 9-2 with a 2.74 GAA and 910 SV%
Talbot was 32-12-4 with a 2.76 GAA and 911 SV%
Seems like a coin flip to me, but I did state at the time they should have gone to Cam earlier in the playoffs.
Now look at Talbot's last 15-20 games.
The bigger point is that it would have been a good idea to know Talbot 's thoughts on the matter before the draft happened. Lots of goalies got traded in the last 2 days. Might have been a good time to know what you could've got for Talbot.
Would love for the Wild to go Kurth here I’m shocked he hasn’t been taken yet
Aren't they both Guerin's guys?
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How do you re-sign Fleury without at least knowing Talbot’s thoughts on it? What a cluster-
I’ve heard Guerin interviewed about the goalie situation recently and he was point blank asked how he’s handling it. Bill said he hoped to resign “Flower.” But he also made a point to clearly state “Talbot is under contract so he isn’t going anywhere.” I thought at the time it was a message to Talbot and his agent.
Bill knows Talbot’s thoughts on it. No doubt in my mind.
Exactly, Talbot is under contract for 22-23 at 3 million ? boo fricken woo…if Cam’s pissed Billy signed Flower for 2 more years. Clearly THE PLAN is for their 1st Round draft pick from last year to be between the pipes for Wild in 2-3 years & maybe as soon as 23-24 (if Flower plays the 2nd year) he could split time or back up the young guy. Aside from chafing about resigning Flower, Talbot has no leverage, Billy doesn’t have to make a move unless or until he actually wants to.
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A lot of people are interpreting Bazos' quote solely as Talbot wants to be traded (Talbot indicated otherwise after the season). I'm getting the impression from team sources that Talbot wants a raise by way of an extension. He makes $3 million this year vs. Fleury's $3.5 million https://t.co/zK6XdLyKZz — Michael Russo (@RussoHockey) July 8, 2022
This is excellent. When asked last night about the Kaprisov situation you could tell Guerin knew something but he was holding back. He could comment, but he wouldn't.
With Cam Talbot, and Bazos, Guerin holds NOTHING back. Full frontal. I think it's most hilarious. You can tell Bill just so annoyed by it. His words have repeatedly stated He likes cam. But how he says it, makes me think the HATES Bazos. Entertaining.
Also, since I brought up Kaprisov, I thought it was an excellent sign that Guerin drafted a Russian player. Shows he isn't too concerned about Kaprisov or getting burned a Russian player from the KHL.
Russo wrote more about Kaprizov in the Athletic.
https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1545730196317274113
According to league sources, Kaprizov left Russia recently for Dubai and tried to return to the U.S. He couldn’t clear into the U.S., though, perhaps because he doesn’t currently have a work visa despite signing a five-year contract last September. As The Athletic reported July 1, several Europeans — not just Russians — were given exceptions to play last season without visas because U.S. consulates were inundated during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Kaprizov, sources say, tried to cross the ocean by way of Caribbean Islands after not succeeding in the Dubai route. Again, he wasn’t permitted. Kaprizov then returned to Russia, where he remains.
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In before the...
I would assume the Wild are melting the phone lines to Immigration and Customs Enforcement as we speak...
Is it really that F'n hard to keep the political BS to yourself? I mean really!? I am not in the mood for anything remotely political these days. Anything like it will get you banned really damn fast.
D2D... Banned for a little while. Not sure how long. However long I feel like it I guess.,
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