Gopher Womens hoops lost 105-49 to Iowa. 
Fold ‘er up.
No reason to bring it up.
Soooo....the ace alumni coach not goin' so good?
No reason to bring it up.
Sorry, it won’t happen again.
No reason to bring it up.
Duckies and bunnies.....
Soooo....the ace alumni coach not goin' so good?
She has three of the top 50 recruits in the nation committed for next season. She'll be fine.
Iowa is very good and everything went right for them while everything went wrong for Minnesota. The Gophers couldn't get anything to fall in the second half. They had like 10pts the whole half.
Soooo....the ace alumni coach not goin' so good?
She has three of the top 50 recruits in the nation committed for next season. She'll be fine.
Iowa is very good and everything went right for them while everything went wrong for Minnesota. The Gophers couldn't get anything to fall in the second half. They had like 10pts the whole half.
We'll see. It's been 4 years and if anything her teams have gotten worse. She might finally be getting a talent infusion but whether Whalen can actually coach or not is still out.
And she still isn't recruiting any size.
Has it been that long already? Very disappointing so far.
Whalen is in her forth season. And the team has regressed year of year. Or at best year 3 was stagnant to year 2. Next year needs marketed improvement.
Whalen is in her forth season. And the team has regressed year of year. Or at best year 3 was stagnant to year 2. Next year needs marketed improvement.
Her recruiting class for next year is off the charts good. If they don't improve a lot next year, then coaching is the issue.
Whalen is in her forth season. And the team has regressed year of year. Or at best year 3 was stagnant to year 2. Next year needs marketed improvement.
I'm willing to give her some leeway. She didn't exactly take over in the most ideal of times.
For a first time head coach to have to deal with all the pandemic-related issues she's had to work around while also trying to carve out her niche and recruit, etc. I'm willing to give her some extra time.
Whalen is in her forth season. And the team has regressed year of year. Or at best year 3 was stagnant to year 2. Next year needs marketed improvement.
I'm willing to give her some leeway. She didn't exactly take over in the most ideal of times.
For a first time head coach to have to deal with all the pandemic-related issues she's had to work around while also trying to carve out her niche and recruit, etc. I'm willing to give her some extra time.
Definitely. Not going to say she deserves unlimited slack just because she was a star here by any stretch, but judging anyone based on performance the last couple of years simply isn't fair. Taking over a dumpster fire, then less than 2 years later be in a season where the playoffs get cancelled because the world is just that messed up isn't an environment that you can use to make fast conclusions about anything.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
Still...watch the way her players play for her and Johnson's play for him. It's a night and day difference.
Why wasn’t she recruited to the U of M?
Souhan: Lee was the pride of Byron before breaking NCAA scoring mark
Kansas State’s record-breaking center Ayoka Lee played high school ball in Byron, located a few miles west of Rochester.
Those who knew Ayoka Lee in high school were more thrilled than surprised by her latest achievement — scoring 61 points to break the NCAA women's single-game scoring record.
Aloha!
Supposedly she had no interest in playing for Marlene Stollings
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I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
Steveson ranked #1 just toyed with the Michigan Hwt ranked #4 in tonights dual.
Keep your stick on the ice...
https://twitter.com/evegoe/status/1489723741798084611
Mark Coyle has an extension.
Is this because of all the buzz he's created surrounding Gopher Hockey?
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
This isn't UMN related, but I do think an important takeaway from this very transparent recap of the financial picture of running a ticket revenue based program is that 'once you lose the value of your ticket you never get it back.' Also related is that once you cut ticket prices, then you might not get that revenue back for a long time.
"We never give tickets away. We do give our season ticket holders two flex tickets so they can bring–and introduce to City!--some friends, but that’s part of the value of the Membership package they get. It’s not worth the big opening day to do things like give out free tickets to all the local youth clubs or to local college students or whatever you have heard of people doing. They value your ticket at $0 because you value it at $0 and even if you get 1,200 to your opener you’ll find yourself a few years later grinding to get 200."
https://www.protagonistsoccer.com/coverage-blog/2021-mplscity-recap
Being an AD is complicated, but I do wonder about the future of the fan base in this market once covid concerns go away.
"We never give away tickets. We just lower the value per ticket by giving free "flex" tickets to STH." Consumers are not stupid. They factor in those flex tickets when deciding they're getting the value they want out of that purchase.
Don't cut ticket prices, and just watch year after year as your arena is empty. Maybe empty Mariucci at current prices is the profit maximization point right now, but I doubt it. The problem with the hockey tickets is the price is not even CLOSE to the demand price. When you sell out the cheap sections, you'll know you're at least close.
"We never give away tickets. We just lower the value per ticket by giving free "flex" tickets to STH." Consumers are not stupid. They factor in those flex tickets when deciding they're getting the value they want out of that purchase.
Don't cut ticket prices, and just watch year after year as your arena is empty. Maybe empty Mariucci at current prices is the profit maximization point right now, but I doubt it. The problem with the hockey tickets is the price is not even CLOSE to the demand price. When you sell out the cheap sections, you'll know you're at least close.
What does it mean when you basically sell out the expensive seats and don't sell out the cheap seats?
You cut prices and you just gave away financial support that people probably won't bother to donate.
And if you cut them now, when there is demand again you'll probably lose people out of spite if you raise them back up.
Taking into account inflation... tickets are cheaper than they were back in 2002 and 2003.
"We never give away tickets. We just lower the value per ticket by giving free "flex" tickets to STH." Consumers are not stupid. They factor in those flex tickets when deciding they're getting the value they want out of that purchase.
Don't cut ticket prices, and just watch year after year as your arena is empty. Maybe empty Mariucci at current prices is the profit maximization point right now, but I doubt it. The problem with the hockey tickets is the price is not even CLOSE to the demand price. When you sell out the cheap sections, you'll know you're at least close.
What does it mean when you basically sell out the expensive seats
Might want to check your stats and do a year over year on this.
In the top Zone there are almost 200 seats available for one of the wisconsin games. That means non-STH. If I had checked a game like the USA exhib I'd have the exact count. 200 or whatever it is is a lot more than available in those sections recently.
The next zone after that is ugly, especially in sections 10, 16, 5, and 21. The third zone is the worst of all of them and the cheap zone is about 1/2 - 2/3 sold. So your cheapest tickets don't meet demand and your expensive tickets are losing big chunks.
Add to that the club level. When I got Club season tickets in 19-20 I had about six spots to choose from. There are now at least 30-40 openings up there. Those are your highest profit seats.
Lowering 50 bucks a year isn't going to do anything. If they want to make a real difference they'll need to rip off the bandaid. Unfortunately I think some of the most complicated surgery in the world will be needed to fill Mariucci again. I'm not even sure $500 for the sides and $300 everywhere else would really make a difference. And like you said in a recent podcast I'm not sure a championship can make a significant difference either at this point. Kirill Kaprisov eats Gopher hockey revenue with every highlight reel goal he scores.
Add to that a lost year to Covid and the fact we're still dealing with that.
Damn it, I really want to dislike Steveson...
[media] https://twitter.com/GableSteveson/status/1491218888205664258 [/media]
I am the official Iowa Hawkeye football fan of GPL!
[media] https://twitter.com/GopherWrestling/status/1492201774861590531 [/media]
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
Very few college athletes get close to "larger than life" while at the U, but he's one.
Very few college athletes get close to "larger than life" while at the U, but he's one.
The 1997 Final Four Basketball team were pretty much “larger than life” on campus during the NCAAs, Final Four and even after the Final Four.
Keep your stick on the ice...
Very few college athletes get close to "larger than life" while at the U, but he's one.
The 1997 Final Four Basketball team were pretty much “larger than life” on campus during the NCAAs, Final Four and even after the Final Four.
Larger than rules too
Steveson absolutely roasted his opponent last night too.
What a pleasure it has been to watch his career. He's so insanely good.
Steveson absolutely roasted his opponent last night too.
What a pleasure it has been to watch his career. He's so insanely good.
Most dominant Gopher athlete ever?
Steveson absolutely roasted his opponent last night too.
What a pleasure it has been to watch his career. He's so insanely good.
Most dominant Gopher athlete ever?
You gotta be pretty special to knock Mitch Leidner off that throne
Steveson absolutely roasted his opponent last night too.
What a pleasure it has been to watch his career. He's so insanely good.
Most dominant Gopher athlete ever?
You gotta be pretty special to knock Mitch Leidner off that throne
You mean the Mitch Leidner who was projected to be a first round draft pick the summer before his senior season?
Steveson absolutely roasted his opponent last night too.
What a pleasure it has been to watch his career. He's so insanely good.
Most dominant Gopher athlete ever?
You gotta be pretty special to knock Mitch Leidner off that throne
You mean the Mitch Leidner who was projected to be a first round draft pick the summer before his senior season?
If Ponder can go in the 1st round.......
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
In no way would I characterize the PJ hire as a no brainer. There was a ton of skepticism and negativity about the hire at the time. I give Coyle a ton of credit for that hire.
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
In no way would I characterize the PJ hire as a no brainer. There was a ton of skepticism and negativity about the hire at the time. I give Coyle a ton of credit for that hire.
There was a ton of negativity about how Coyle handled the "scandal" and the firing of Claeys, not the choosing of PJ. PJ was a top coaching candidate around the country that just about everyone was talking about. He had taken WMU to the Orange Bowl and was one of the 5 finalists for Coach of the Year.
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
In no way would I characterize the PJ hire as a no brainer. There was a ton of skepticism and negativity about the hire at the time. I give Coyle a ton of credit for that hire.
There was a ton of negativity about how Coyle handled the "scandal" and the firing of Claeys, not the choosing of PJ. PJ was a top coaching candidate around the country that just about everyone was talking about. He had taken WMU to the Orange Bowl and was one of the 5 finalists for Coach of the Year.
He was definitely a hot candidate for a P5 job. But to call it a no-brainer is disingenuous IMHO. There were quite a few people begging for Les Miles to get the job, IIRC.
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
In no way would I characterize the PJ hire as a no brainer. There was a ton of skepticism and negativity about the hire at the time. I give Coyle a ton of credit for that hire.
There was a ton of negativity about how Coyle handled the "scandal" and the firing of Claeys, not the choosing of PJ. PJ was a top coaching candidate around the country that just about everyone was talking about. He had taken WMU to the Orange Bowl and was one of the 5 finalists for Coach of the Year.
He was definitely a hot candidate for a P5 job. But to call it a no-brainer is disingenuous IMHO. There were quite a few people begging for Les Miles to get the job, IIRC.
You are right there were some wanting Miles. Glad we didn't pick him for many reasons, it would have been disastrous on and off the field. PJ was the obvious choice to get some momentum going and rejuvenate the fan base.
Here's a flashback to who was being talked about: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/6-coaching-candidates-replace-tracy-claeys-minnesota
None of those did anything for me except for Fleck and Harsin, but Harsin didn't want to leave Boise yet. May have lucked out on Harsin not being interested (controversy now at Auburn) and Coyle may have hired him if he was interested (Coyle used to be at Boise).
Mark Coyle is a phenomenal AD. We’re lucky to have him and lucky to have him stay. He’s more important to Fleck staying than people think. On top of that what major coach do we have to worry about either sucking or leaving if they don’t?
His coaching hires this far have been good. Whalen was a risk, and next year is critical. But nobody was really upset by the hire.
Good on him for the extension.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
In no way would I characterize the PJ hire as a no brainer. There was a ton of skepticism and negativity about the hire at the time. I give Coyle a ton of credit for that hire.
There was a ton of negativity about how Coyle handled the "scandal" and the firing of Claeys, not the choosing of PJ. PJ was a top coaching candidate around the country that just about everyone was talking about. He had taken WMU to the Orange Bowl and was one of the 5 finalists for Coach of the Year.
He was definitely a hot candidate for a P5 job. But to call it a no-brainer is disingenuous IMHO. There were quite a few people begging for Les Miles to get the job, IIRC.
You are right there were some wanting Miles. Glad we didn't pick him for many reasons, it would have been disastrous on and off the field. PJ was the obvious choice to get some momentum going and rejuvenate the fan base.
Here's a flashback to who was being talked about: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/6-coaching-candidates-replace-tracy-claeys-minnesota
None of those did anything for me except for Fleck and Harsin, but Harsin didn't want to leave Boise yet. May have lucked out on Harsin not being interested (controversy now at Auburn) and Coyle may have hired him if he was interested (Coyle used to be at Boise).
Many people here also didn’t even want Claeys fired to begin with. Again, I give Coyle a ton of credit for pulling the plug on Claeys and getting PJ. Look at the two previous football coaching hiring processes in comparison. Clown shows.
PJ was no where close to a no-brainer hire.
You might be right in many regards to what you say about Mark Coyle. Maybe the extension was warranted.
However, Norm makes a painfully obvious, valid point. The Athletic Department (Mark Coyle) and hockey operation (Bob Motzko) have done a pathetically inadequate job of promoting Gopher hockey. Not even a point worth arguing.
Coyle gets credit for hiring PJ, but PJ was a no-brainer hire and one of the hottest up-and-coming coaches. Any AD with half a brain would have hired PJ.
Motzko was an obvious choice too. Whalen and Johnson were risks and I think we won't know for a couple years if they are going to turn out. I like what I've seen so far from Johnson and am willing to give Whalen a couple more years.
Coyle has zero public presence and has done almost nothing to raise money for the athletes village.
I think Coyle is OK, but his biggest success is hiring PJ and I don't think that really took a lot of guts. We needed a board of regents and president willing to finally pay for a top-notch coach. Not sure Coyle gets credit for that.
In no way would I characterize the PJ hire as a no brainer. There was a ton of skepticism and negativity about the hire at the time. I give Coyle a ton of credit for that hire.
There was a ton of negativity about how Coyle handled the "scandal" and the firing of Claeys, not the choosing of PJ. PJ was a top coaching candidate around the country that just about everyone was talking about. He had taken WMU to the Orange Bowl and was one of the 5 finalists for Coach of the Year.
He was definitely a hot candidate for a P5 job. But to call it a no-brainer is disingenuous IMHO. There were quite a few people begging for Les Miles to get the job, IIRC.
You are right there were some wanting Miles. Glad we didn't pick him for many reasons, it would have been disastrous on and off the field. PJ was the obvious choice to get some momentum going and rejuvenate the fan base.
Here's a flashback to who was being talked about: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/6-coaching-candidates-replace-tracy-claeys-minnesota
None of those did anything for me except for Fleck and Harsin, but Harsin didn't want to leave Boise yet. May have lucked out on Harsin not being interested (controversy now at Auburn) and Coyle may have hired him if he was interested (Coyle used to be at Boise).
Many people here also didn’t even want Claeys fired to begin with. Again, I give Coyle a ton of credit for pulling the plug on Claeys and getting PJ. Look at the two previous football coaching hiring processes in comparison. Clown shows.
For sure the Brewster hiring was awful and Kill just kind of fell to us. He was ok, but we're better off now.
Gopher baseball won their season opener 9-1 against Florida Atlantic before losing 3 straight in blowout fashion against them.
Total for the series was 41-24.
After winning 9-1 they lost 8-2, 13-4, and 17-9.
Yuck.
Gopher baseball won their season opener 9-1 against Florida Atlantic before losing 3 straight in blowout fashion against them.
Total for the series was 41-24.
After winning 9-1 they lost 8-2, 13-4, and 17-9.
Yuck.
No better in the opener to FGCU.
https://twitter.com/gopherbaseball/status/1496685033515454468?s=21
A UM student fell just a few dollars shy of advancing to the 3rd round of the College Jeopardy tournament. Would have been neat to see UM students win back to back but she was great.
The Iowa guy forfeited rather than wrestle steveson for the championship
The Iowa guy forfeited rather than wrestle steveson for the championship
Is he actually hurt or are they trying to get him in a certain place in the NCAA bracket?
I don't follow wrestling but saw on Twitter the same thing happened like 12 times in the same tournament or something? Obviously shady and bastardizing the integrity of the sport.