Cam Christie declares for the NBA draft (LOL). Maintains college eligibility.
Why is that funny? It is the smart decision for about a million (actually much more) reasons.
Cam Christie declares for the NBA draft (LOL). Maintains college eligibility.
Why is that funny? It is the smart decision for about a million (actually much more) reasons.
Are you his agent?
No...im just someone who knows how these things work and that this has been expected since about January. I still don't understand why you find it funny at all.
His brother did the same thing at Michigan State and is enjoying a nice career in the NBA...and his numbers were not that different than Cam's. (he was rated higher out of HS but that matters little)
"Declaring for the Draft" means very little in the NBA until after the June 15th deadline. If he doesn't like what teams tell him he can come back no harm no foul. Truth is though I would not be surprised if a team drafts him late and wants him in the G-League for his final development. The question will be is that enough for him to leave.
Yeah you know everything. Surprised somebody as brilliant as you is sitting on a forum posting. We are all so lucky to have you here. Although you’re just a box score watcher (I.E. your Matthew Wood take). You don’t watch any of the games, you just come on here and try to talk down to everyone @handyman.
Everything he said is factually correct. Not sure why you got so insulted by it.
Yes it is. He copy and pasted another poster from Gopher Hole I am sure.
What is your problem? Why come at me? All I did was ask why it was funny when it is literally something dozenss do every season because the NBA draft and NCAA basketball allow for it. Coffey did it just a few years ago...Cam's brother did it after 1 year at MSU. Players that are borderline or who want to know what they need to work on get evaluated by scouts from NBA teams and find out if they are in position to be drafted. Even second round picks make decent money. It isn't like the NHL where playing in the AHL is not super lucrative (barring a guaranteed contract or signing bonus) so it makes sense to maybe stick around...NBA players do well going to the G League and then moving up. Coffey has made like $7 million undrafted and the Elder Christie is doing quite well with the Lakers. If I read right second round picks can get like a $2 million deal depending...
And your little childish dig at me copying someone from Gopherhole was cute (especially since I never pass other people's thoughts off as my own I always say 'I got this from someone at [insert place here]')but for the record media people have been talking about the fact that Christie would likely test the waters. I am not some basketball insider or anything, if you just read articles in the Athletic or the Strib (or listen to the broadcasts or when radio/tv discusses the team) it gets mentioned all the time. Hell it got mentioned in games...especially if his family was in attendance. He has the type of game NBA teams like, even if he has some growing up to do.
You seem to think I am trying like pat myself on the back or brag about how smart I am...I am not. I will if you want me to but I don't get off on being the smartest man on the internet, it does little for me. It just seems to me that you came to this discussion without all of the facts...like a lot of people do. You probably chuckled thinking "why would some freshmen on the Gophers declare for the draft he can't possibly be ready" (something I am sure the clowns on KFAN will do Monday) and so I was just trying to make sure you understood how the draft worked. I wasn't insulting you, hell I just re-read it I never even spoke in any sort of snarky way to you. Yet here you are getting all uppity like I spit in your face. You do you man but you might want to lighten up a bit because if you take this much offense to someone asking you a pretty basic question in a non-threatening or snarky way it might be time for a vacation.
"Couldn’t be more excited to be coming back for one more year with @DTAthletes"
It's as if the players now play for whoever is paying them, rather than the team they supposedly represent.
"Couldn’t be more excited to be coming back for one more year with @DTAthletes"
It's as if the players now play for whoever is paying them, rather than the team they supposedly represent.
How long til we hear a story about a collective sabotaging a coach they don't like by withholding NIL money?
Saw an article from The Athletic today ranking the NBA prospects and potential draft picks. This article had Cam Christie as his 38th ranked prospect.
I think if Christie is told he won't be a first round pick he will probably return for another season but my guess is if he hears he'd be a first rounder he'll be going pro.
I would say 2 things are at play based on nothing but how this seems to play out elsewhere...
1) how much money will play in. If he is told he is likely to get drafted in a certain spot will the contract be enough to get him to leave. Is it more than he can make in NIL or similar and how much does he care about that?
2) whether he likes being in school. All things being equal would he prefer a season of G-League or playing in the Big Ten Infinity? He is not going to be playing in the NBA next year no matter what, so where would he rather work on his game?
The draft is supposed to be pretty weak unlike next year (not that I could name 2 people in any draft these days) so that will play in as well. I think with him the Gophs have a chance (with a few more additions including another center) to be better. Without him they are going to be in a lot of trouble unless they find another pure shooter like him.
He does say “Having Minnesota across my chest in an honor!” immediately preceding that."Couldn’t be more excited to be coming back for one more year with @DTAthletes"
It's as if the players now play for whoever is paying them, rather than the team they supposedly represent.
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
After Hawkins announced he was returning about two weeks ago, now he's going to the portal.
Getting real sick of this.
Absurd.
The Word Commit means nothing when it comes to college sports.
BAN THE PORTAL
After Hawkins announced he was returning about two weeks ago, now he's going to the portal.
Getting real sick of this.
Next year is going to be a train wreck and college sports is killing itself.
edit: Hawkins isn't even in the portal...I remember when tampering was a thing.
After Hawkins announced he was returning about two weeks ago, now he's going to the portal.
Getting real sick of this.
Next year is going to be a train wreck and college sports is killing itself.
edit: Hawkins isn't even in the portal...I remember when tampering was a thing.
Yeah this REEKS of tampering
Yeah Tampering is totally legal now with the way the NCAA has capitulated to all the courts.
They are going to somehow find some actual binding guidelines that somehow meet legal muster or else its only going to get worse and worse.
Saw somewhere that Payne committed to Texas A&M.
After Hawkins announced he was returning about two weeks ago, now he's going to the portal.
Getting real sick of this.
This is why I largely don't care very much about college sports any longer.
I will always pull for the Gophers but college sports has essentially become a lesser pro league... money involved and even more "free agency" than the pros have. I'd hate to be a college coach these days...
All we need now is for college teams to be able to make player trades and we're set 🙄
Rigsby is a nice bench player but if he starts...yeesh.
Cam Christie enters the Transfer Portal on the last day possible. (today)
Also rumors that Lu'cye Patterson from Charlotte (from Brooklyn Center) is transferring here. So at least we will have a PG I guess...
College basketball is beyond a joke.
Such a shady move by Christie. Wow.
fwiw:
https://twitter.com/_CalebWilliams3/status/1785717491437609102
This is the kid that dropped like 30 points against us in the exhibition right?
I know I am excited we got a transfer from Macalaster...someone call Concordia see if they have someone. Jesus next year is going to be a disaster. even if I had confidence in Ben as a coach (I do not) I would bet he gets fired.
I give up trying to keep track of the ins and outs of college hoops.
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Wow,$500k in NIL money for Payne. There is no way the Gophers are going to ever field a decent team.
“I don't mind the high price of stardom. I just don't like the high price of mediocrity.”
- Bill Veeck
How does a bb program like A&M have that much for one player but a B1G team in a major metro doesn't have it combined?
A&M has sugar daddies. You should see what they pay their football team. (Which sucks)
Better Big Ten teams than the Gophers have similar money. It's ridiculous what some of these players are getting and it's won't last.
Nothing personally against Pharrel Payne, but the fact that he is getting 500K is one of the most ridiculous things ever. Who in their right mind is paying these bills? What a bad investment.
Its not a bad investment if you get what you want out of him. I mean to me paying a half a million for a 10 and 6 guy who can't hit free throws and has no range beyond dunking is pretty ridiculous, but if he makes A&M a better team because he is a missing piece (I doubt he will but just saying) then it is a perfect investment. Some of these people have stupid money they couldn't burn through in 5 lifetimes. NBA Minimum salary is $1.1 million for perspective.
If you want to know the crazy part...the original rumors had him making more. And the U was (supposedly) offering a pretty solid amount of money to him and Hawkins. I get maximizing your cash because you likely have no pro future but sometimes other things should play in. Doubling my salary would not be enough to make me move to College Station or Lubbock.
This stuff is unsustainable. If this isn't fixed the only teams that will survive will teams like A&M or Arkansas that have billionaires backing them. Teams like Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa will be also rans at best. We shouldn't be hoping some rich alumnus decides to back us just to hope to survive, that is completely backwards. Not to mention, if the NCAA is now just a paid minor league why would anyone watch that instead of the NBA which is better at it? No one watches the G-League. How are any of the NFL Minor leagues doing? Baseball's only survives because the major league franchises own them for the most part...they could never survive long term as independent leagues. Back in the day that might be the only way you saw Baseball but now you can watch dozens of a games on most days. People won't choose to watch an inferior product in the long run.
They are decent...not sure if this is better than an NIT team though.
Cam is now being "mocked" in the late 20s/early 30s in the draft.
Cam is now being "mocked" in the late 20s/early 30s in the draft.
I saw one having him as high as 22nd to Phoenix (as part of a trade with Cleveland, IIRC).
Seems crazy to me. But happy for him.
I don't disagree...but truth is outside of the lottery its mostly a crapshoot and he does have some of the things NBA teams love. Put him in the G-League for a season or two and he could have a very nice career like his brother. I would have never bet he would be mocked this high though. (not that mocks are the end all be all)
Good for him, and it is good in the long run for the Gophs. Not good in the short run obviously.
He's got a projectable frame that is almost prototypical size for guards in the NBA, has a lot of skills and showed significant improvement over the season in college. Those things, combined with this being a weak class means teams are potentially more likely to take a flier on an "unproven" kid in the first round than they would be in other seasons.
The weak class is definitely helping. If he puts in the work he can definitely have a good career. I wish him well and have zero ill feelings towards him unlike half of Gopherhole who now try to pretend he stinks...after saying he was the piece that was needed to make next year better 😉
The weak class is definitely helping. If he puts in the work he can definitely have a good career. I wish him well and have zero ill feelings towards him unlike half of Gopherhole who now try to pretend he stinks...after saying he was the piece that was needed to make next year better 😉
Exactly.
More Gopher players in the NBA can never be a bad thing for the program. Just like the NFL for PJ's team. If guys are leaving early to go pro and get drafted in the first or second round it looks good for the program and can be used to try to steal guys in the top 200-300 recruits that may want more playing time than they'd get at one of the "blue blood" schools.
Yahoo Sports mock draft posted today has the Wolves drafting Cam Christie at #27 with the below note:
Christie is a late riser and could sneak into the back half of the first round with how well he’s been performing in team workouts. He averaged 11.3 points and shot 39% from 3-point range during his freshman year at Minnesota.
Christie to the Clippers at 46
Not a bad spot for him.