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Posted by: @snowcool08

So…now what? We lose Eiserman and most of the top recruits for next year have already committed. There’s a few left out there. Any chance or are we just going to have a lost recruiting year?

 

Bob's going to need to figure that out. It might mean he needs to hit the transfer portal harder.

 

It's a whole new ballgame and people are going to need to adapt...and quickly. 

 


   
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North Dakota hit the portal hard. On paper, they did some good work.

Next offseason we might be doing the same. Like stated above, Bob needs to adapt and not waste any time. 


   
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Posted by: @snowcool08

So…now what? We lose Eiserman and most of the top recruits for next year have already committed. There’s a few left out there. Any chance or are we just going to have a lost recruiting year?

There is no way to sugarcoat the Eiserman news: It sucks.

I am not in the doom and gloom camp, however. There will be some late bloomers who pop up and the plus is any recruit eyeing the program will see far more opportunity without a locked-in top six player coming up. Also, Cooley was added late in the process; more decommits are sure to come and could benefit the Gophers this go round.

Ziemer and Hendrickson is a good start to the process. Lot of dominoes left to fall, and I trust Bob and Co. have contingency plans.

 


   
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I have a gut feeling that Michigan Tech’s Kyle Kukkonen hits the portal after this season and we pick him up. Just want to post this so there’s proof that I called it in September.


   
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Posted by: @maroon_and_gold

I have a gut feeling that Michigan Tech’s Kyle Kukkonen hits the portal after this season and we pick him up. Just want to post this so there’s proof that I called it in September.

With the family ties to MTU I don’t see it happening. 

 


   
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Posted by: @maroon_and_gold

I have a gut feeling that Michigan Tech’s Kyle Kukkonen hits the portal after this season and we pick him up. Just want to post this so there’s proof that I called it in September.

With the family ties to MTU I don’t see it happening. 

 

I think we all found out yesterday that family ties don’t mean as much as they used to. 

 


   
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As mentioned in the Opponent Recruiting thread, another potential target off the board with Cooper Simpson to North Dakota.

L.J. Mooney's decision looms large. Gavin Kor could also be a big add. Blake Vanek and Mason Kraft seem like players programs are taking their time with.


   
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Posted by: @bluebandit24

As mentioned in the Opponent Recruiting thread, another potential target off the board with Cooper Simpson to North Dakota.

L.J. Mooney's decision looms large. Gavin Kor could also be a big add. Blake Vanek and Mason Kraft seem like players programs are taking their time with.

Ryder Betzold, Henry Lechner and Malachi McKinnon would be great adds too. The beautiful thing about being in Minnesota is there’s no shortage of talent. 

 


   
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Whiffing on Simpson sucks!!  Especially to ND…he will only add to the bad blood between these programs as he is a big time agitator…on top of being a very talented player!

 

Bob better figure out a new recruiting strategy soon! I don’t see this getting any better for the Gophers…and I certainly don’t want them loading the roster with 32 year olds!

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Posted by: @snowcool08

So…now what? We lose Eiserman and most of the top recruits for next year have already committed. There’s a few left out there. Any chance or are we just going to have a lost recruiting year?

There is no way to sugarcoat the Eiserman news: It sucks.

I am not in the doom and gloom camp, however. There will be some late bloomers who pop up and the plus is any recruit eyeing the program will see far more opportunity without a locked-in top six player coming up. Also, Cooley was added late in the process; more decommits are sure to come and could benefit the Gophers this go round.

Ziemer and Hendrickson is a good start to the process. Lot of dominoes left to fall, and I trust Bob and Co. have contingency plans.

 

  There might be a narrow list of top end elite players yet to commit.  The other variable is a slot for top line minutes just opened up on Gopher hockey team for 2024.  We may end up getting a elite player flip in our direction.

 

 

 


   
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The article in the Pioneer Press about NIL and Gopher football made me pretty pessimistic about UofM and NIL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The article in the Pioneer Press about NIL and Gopher football made me pretty pessimistic about UofM and NIL.

 

I found it astonishing that players only get 10% from the sales of their merchandise. So Snuggy and Close get about $3.50 to $5.50 for each item of clothing sold from the Dinkytown website. If the same is true for fanatics, those players who have jerseys on that site get about  $11.50 per item sold. So, it seems cash is king over the sales of shirts and such since that doesn't seem like a lot per item sold.

But Dinkytown Athletes does not share personalized information, specific financial information nor membership numbers due to competitive reasons with other schools’ collectives, Burns said. They have shared such things as players receive roughly 10 percent of proceeds from their custom merchandise and 20 percent of Gray Duck sales will go to the collective.

 

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Will Schumaker has 10 goals in 6 games in the NAHL thus far. Curious if stock starts to heat up.


   
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Probably not on our radar, but Christian Humphreys has decommitted from Michigan State. He’s on the U18 team and a Pittsburgh native. Would be nice to add another PA guy to the roster (hopefully along with Mooney). 


   
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For what it’s worth Mooney unfollowed North Dakota and is only following the Gophers at the moment 


   
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It’s definitely not a bad sign!


   
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With Mooney and Reid in the fold, focus now moves to some notable uncommitted players. Really curious about the futures of these prospects:

Henry Lechner (Holy Angels)

Parker Deschene (Rogers)

Jacob Rombach (Lincoln)

Gavin Kor (Fargo)

Malachi McKinnon (Forest Lake?)


   
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My hunch is we get 2-3 of those 6. 

Curious how we will approach D recruiting in the near term, we appear to have a pretty crowded D core through 2025-2026. There are a lot of good targets out there though and I doubt we sit idle. 

Rombach (as stated by BlueBandit)

Lindberg

Boumedienne

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We will have to see what the recruiting director on Gopherhole says. He was not impressed by the Reid signing, so I'm sure he will not be happy no matter who Bob signs, unless they are all 1st round picks. 

Like others have said, defense looks ok for a few years. It will be interesting on what forwards they will have to replace. The Farm kid, Michel and Brodzinski for sure. Nevers could use his covid year, so that is a ?  Snuggy will most likely be an early departure and maybe a couple of others ( Moore, Huglen, Pitlick or Lamb ).  They could lose maybe 7 forwards. So there is room for a few more recruits for next year.  Always fun when the Gophers get a commitment. 

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Every post he makes sounds like a five year old who has just learned things sometimes do not go your way. What an odd existence. I do appreciate the full page of other posters just dragging him, however.

As far as forwards, all but certain we lose at least three:

- Nelson

- Brodzinski

- Snuggerud

Nevers a wild card and other departures always possible. Ziemer and Hendrickson are locks. A high-end recruit would be great; more realistically maybe Bob looks to the portal, even though it has not been his favorite avenue.


   
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I just can't see Moore staying beyond this year and why wouldn't he want to get to Chicago as quickly as possible to play with Bedard.  I think we all see that he is trending in the same manner of Cooley, we are lucky to have him the one year we do.

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Moore is not Cooley. He should be around next year. It's so early to call, but he clearly has a lot to learn. Right now I'd call it 60/40 he stays.


   
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I actually think he stays two years similar to Snuggy. Bob has been able to get that extra year out of guys (typically) and I don’t see that same elite puck skills as Cooley. I think an extra year is not unreasonable for people to hope for from Moore. 


   
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Moore should absolutely not leave after one year, he's not Cooley. 


   
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I think we lose 24, 22 and 81. 11 will be back I think and Michel actually has another year left of eligibility if he and/or Bob wants to


   
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Posted by: @maroon_and_gold

Michel actually has another year left of eligibility if he and/or Bob wants to

He is a warm body. If he is your 15th forward, sure. But he should not be your 14th forward again next season.

 


   
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If Knies and Snuggy stayed for their sophomore year, then Moore could as well


   
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@any-road he’s not a one and done guy. No pressure from the hawks where they’re at in rebuild either


   
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Posted by: @jaykay3

Moore should absolutely not leave after one year, he's not Cooley. 

 

You are probably correct.  The biggest issue for players with a draft status (middle to late first round to second round) of Oliver Moore isn't really the money, but what I refer to their "prospect status".   

Everybody babbles about Logan Cooley turning pro, but as a top 3 NHL draft pick, he is going to be on the NHL draft team's roster from Day 1.  This starts his NHL contract clock ticking.

But prospects like Matthew Knies and Brock Faber, remaining in school an extra year or two moved their prospect standing way up the ladder to a point where they made their NHL roster right after turing pro and participating in the playoffs.  If Faber turns pro after his freshman/sophmore season he is playing in Iowa to start his career instead.  Same with Knies.

If Moore would have a guaranteed roster spot with the Black Hawks next season then he should turn pro after his freshman season.  If it isn't guaranteed, then he should stay at least one more season in Minnesota.

 


   
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We’ll see, Motzko has typically gotten an extra year out of guys and almost pulled it off with Cooley. I guess I wouldn’t be horribly surprised with either decision, I’d lean toward him staying but I’m basing this off nothing because the season just began. 


   
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Moore has played two games for crying out loud.


   
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Posted by: @norm

Moore has played two games for crying out loud.

There is no time for patience.  We will not wait to see how things play out.  We have to know now whether or not he is better or worse than Cooley was last year and if he will play a second year.  

Some of these people can't wait 2-3 more weeks to see who the captains are.  They need answers in September dammit!

 


   
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Posted by: @norm

Moore has played two games for crying out loud.

Reminder that Cooley actually started last season fairly slowly in the scoring department.  It wasn't until Mid November until he turned it up.

 

Snuggerud was the better player early on last season, before Cooley took over.  In the playoffs Cooley shined and probably peaked interest of the Coyotes management.

 


   
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Why hasn't Moore told us if he is coming back for next season yet? ? ? 


   
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A better comparison for Moore than Cooley would be McGroarty or Nazar for Michigan, or Jimmy. All are playing their sophomore years in college. Heck, even Luke Hughes came back for them. 

Cooley/Fantilli/Eichel types are on a different level. 


   
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Unless Moore goes all Patrick White or David Fischer on the bit...he will be no more than a two year player IMO.  Maybe I stepped over the line saying he will be gone after this season but maybe I didn't.  I'm not stating it as a fact but it isn't outside the realm of possibilities and I will be fine with it if it happens that way.  Disappointed...yes, but I'll get over it.

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Maybe I can clear things up with my connections.  My second cousin's ex-girlfriend's third best friend's housekeeper heard that Moore told the brother of her dentist's nail salon manger's 2nd cousin once removed that he will likely come back for a second year, but that could change if the Gophs win it all, if he scores 100 pts this year, if Chicago makes the Stanley Cup finals this year although he still might stay if all of those happen and Eiserman recommits and Hagens brothers join also along with Celebrini transferring.  Remember, you heard it here first.


   
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That seems a bit too general for me, but I'll buy it


   
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Great name ?


   
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Youthhockeyhub has been talking about him for a few years. He’s likely the next highly regarded Shattuck kid at this point. 


   
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Posted by: @bluebandit24

https://twitter.com/MNHockeyLife/status/1715368156040962308?t=TVMG_qO_zfDqiq0D1BLMjg&s=19

He’s playing for (and living at Shattuck) on a full scholarship, the $ amount being a startling high number. Obviously the kid is outstanding, particularly at firing the puck into the net. 

 


   
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Posted by: @bluebandit24

https://twitter.com/MNHockeyLife/status/1715368156040962308?t=TVMG_qO_zfDqiq0D1BLMjg&s=19

He’s playing for (and living at Shattuck) on a full scholarship, the $ amount being a startling high number. Obviously the kid is outstanding, particularly at firing the puck into the net. 

 

He is 14 and scored 95 points in Bantam AA as a 1st year bantam?  Wooooooow!

 

I look at his stats on Elite Prospects and I wonder how this kid plays.  To have 22 goals with only 9 assists, he must just dangle everyone and score without passing.

 


   
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Posted by: @bertogliat
To have 22 goals with only 9 assists, he must just dangle everyone and score without passing.

I don't care if it's 31 goals or 31 assists, it's over 2 points a game.

 


   
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To have 22 goals with only 9 assists, he must just dangle everyone and score without passing.

I don't care if it's 31 goals or 31 assists, it's over 2 points a game.

 

 

Gophs have a couple years to figure out an NIL deal for him.

 


   
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Posted by: @koho

Posted by: @midevil-bowievil

Posted by: @bertogliat
To have 22 goals with only 9 assists, he must just dangle everyone and score without passing.

I don't care if it's 31 goals or 31 assists, it's over 2 points a game.

 

 

Gophs have a couple years to figure out an NIL deal for him.

 

I’m sure this kid is good but Taylor Cammarata scored almost 3 points a game for Shattuck at both U14 and U16. So glad the early recruiting era is over. 

 


   
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I’m sure this kid is good but Taylor Cammarata scored almost 3 points a game for Shattuck at both U14 and U16. So glad the early recruiting era is over. 

 

 

You think Cammarata is a product of the early recruiting era?   He scored 69 points as a 16 year old in his first USHL season then followed that up with a 93 point second season.  He would have been a high end recruit in any era.

I think Taylor's U of M career was a very stange one indeed.  As an 18 year old freshman he had a 10 goal 17 assist season in 2013-14 which is a very good season.  That was in the same season as fellow freshmen Justin Kloos and Hudson Fasching who had 32 and 30 points respectively.  

What made Cammarata's career unusual is he only scored 15 more goals over three seasons and his goal-assist ratio was so lopsided.  For a forward a 25 goal to 68 assist ratio is very unusual.  Plus,  his freshman year was by far his best year of his college career, with his sophomore year his second best.  His junior and senior seasons were much weaker.  Jay Baribell had a similar career as his freshman season was the best of his career, but his later seasons were a bit better than Cammarata's.

 

 

 

 


   
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Yes, that example makes no sense as everyone would have taken him.

To stick in the NHL today you need to be a strong skater. This trickles down and is true in college hockey, too. He couldn't skate. Kids can tear it up in MN HS and then struggle in the USHL because they can't skate. He just had the pure skill to tear up the USHL but then his skating caught up to him at the NCAA level.

Ever wonder why Justin Holl stuck in the NHL better than Mike Reilly? Because he's smart, and he can skate. Why does Sammy Walker get so many chances in the NHL? Because he can skate.

It appears Mooney can skate well, so he should be able to do well in college in his second, third, and ideally fourth years.

 


   
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My point wasn’t that Cammarata was an early signee, my point was that I’m glad we don’t have to offer Fitzhenry when he’s 14 based on stats that aren’t necessarily predictive of NCAA stardom. 


   
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