If that’s the case he might stay all four years 
Mittelstadt will be playing for the Clark Cup. He is the only Gopher recruit still playing in the USHL finals.
https://twitter.com/MadCapsHockey/status/1524917888758448129
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Corey Pronman mock draft. He has 3 future Gophers in the 1st round. Chesley/Rinzel seem to be inner changeable for most late in the 1st.
https://twitter.com/cmasisak22/status/1526598961053593602
3. Arizona Coyotes: Logan Cooley, C, USNTDP-USHL
Arizona’s starting from scratch, and getting a potential first line center is a great way to start this iteration of the rebuild. I would imagine whichever of the top three prospects gets here will likely be the Coyotes’ pick.
23. Anaheim Ducks: Jimmy Snuggerud, RW, USNTDP-USHL
Snuggerud’s projected draft slot has been tough to nail down, as I’ve heard some sources say he could go well into the teens, but others view him more as a 20s type of pick. I lean to the latter. With the Ducks getting Korchinski at 10, adding a goal-scorer with size to put next to Trevor Zegras or Mason McTavish would be a nice first round for them.
30. Arizona Coyotes: Sam Rinzel, RHD, Chaska-US High School
Rinzel has been a name I’ve heard floated as a late first/early second candidate for a while. He’s got a ways to go development-wise, but the toolkit is awesome as a 6-foot-4 defenseman who skates well for his size and shows some offense. He’d be a good swing for Arizona’s second first round pick.
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Seems 25-50 are probably just generally interchangeable this year
Chesley has such an NHL projectable skill set it would be tough to pass on him in the late first round. Nice combo of offense and defensive physicality. Sounds like a Lindgren that can score.
"Rinzel plays similar to Parayko, scout says on 'NHL Draft Class' podcast"
That would be a dream. Parayko weights 230... Hopefully Rinzel can put on at least 20 before making it to campus and 15-20 more on campus.
“Rinzel plays similar to Parayko, scout says on ‘NHL Draft Class’ podcast” https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-draft-class-podcast-defenseman-sam-rinzel-comparable-to-colton-parayko/c-334142116
/a> That would be a dream. Parayko weights 230… Hopefully Rinzel can put on at least 20 before making it to campus and 15-20 more on campus.
From what I’ve seen he has a little more flash than a Parayko type but I guess Parayko would have flash if he were playing MN high school?
“Rinzel plays similar to Parayko, scout says on ‘NHL Draft Class’ podcast” https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-draft-class-podcast-defenseman-sam-rinzel-comparable-to-colton-parayko/c-334142116
/a> That would be a dream. Parayko weights 230… Hopefully Rinzel can put on at least 20 before making it to campus and 15-20 more on campus.From what I’ve seen he has a little more flash than a Parayko type but I guess Parayko would have flash if he were playing MN high school
I just remember watching Parayko play against Mankato and it was a man amongst boys scenario. I can't remember any Gopher d-man like that in the last 15ish years in terms of overpowering size+skill.
He was listed 195 as a freshman and 218 as a JR. I'd hope the same for Rinzel. I don't need too much flash from a guy like that.
If Rinzel gets picked in the first round and goes back to high school for his senior year, one would think that’s the first time that’s ever happened right? A first rounder playing high school hockey lol only in mn.
If Rinzel gets picked in the first round and goes back to high school for his senior year, one would think that’s the first time that’s ever happened right? A first rounder playing high school hockey lol only in mn.
Blake Wheeler would be another, as I believe he was drafted during his Jr year
Wheeler went to the USHL.
He won't go back to HS hockey anyways, especially if picked in the first round.
Another PP goal by Mittelstadt.
https://twitter.com/MadCapsHockey/status/1527814909433720833
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Mitts with yet ANOTHER power play goal tonight he’s forcing his way into the lineup before even making it to campus
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Mitts with yet ANOTHER power play goal tonight he’s forcing his way into the lineup before even making it to campus
It’s going to drive everyone nuts though if he keeps playing on that side of the ice while on the pp.
Assuming like most of the rest of the Gophers these days, one timers are not a strong suit.
Why would you not assume the worst?
Looked inevitable but glad to have something official. Looking forward to watching Lamb's development.
Bottom 6 guy for 22-23. Bottom 6 looking like Nelson, Brodzinski, Pinoniemi, Nevers, Lamb, Strobel/Mittelstadt/Schmidt in any variety of combos.
I'd have to imagine Mittelstadt and Schmidt spend nearly all of the games as healthy scratches
Here's The Rink Live story on Lamb -- college hockey isn't the best place to 'develop' if the player isn't ready, so clearly a risk is being taken by Motzko/Gordon on a player who age-wise just finished his senior year of high school.
Here’s The Rink Live story on Lamb — college hockey isn’t the best place to ‘develop’ if the player isn’t ready, so clearly a risk is being taken by Motzko/Gordon on a player who age-wise just finished his senior year of high school.
So we've gone from a logjam at forward to bringing guys in early.
Here’s The Rink Live story on Lamb — college hockey isn’t the best place to ‘develop’ if the player isn’t ready, so clearly a risk is being taken by Motzko/Gordon on a player who age-wise just finished his senior year of high school.
So we’ve gone from a logjam at forward to bringing guys in early.
Yep. Losing the Lucius’s and Broz wasn’t ideal. Still don’t get the Broz one. Internal conflict w coaches?
You'll have to wait for the head of nonsense negativity to return and tell you the leadership was bad
Here’s The Rink Live story on Lamb — college hockey isn’t the best place to ‘develop’ if the player isn’t ready, so clearly a risk is being taken by Motzko/Gordon on a player who age-wise just finished his senior year of high school.
So we’ve gone from a logjam at forward to bringing guys in early.
Yep. Losing the Lucius’s and Broz wasn’t ideal. Still don’t get the Broz one. Internal conflict w coaches?
Probably just as simple as wanting top 6 and PP time. Honestly the Lucius thing is more mysterious to me but I assume it’s related to the handling of his injury or whatever.
The Jets were calling the shots regarding Lucius.
Pronman's latest rankings. Great read. For the 1st rounders, he has player comparisons. I put those in ( ).
https://twitter.com/coreypronman/status/1531610041454800899
#3 Cooley ( compares him to Brayden Point )
#27 Snuggerud ( Tanner Pearson )
#29 Chesley ( Lindgren )
#50 Rinzel
#59 ( a former Gopher recruit )
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Wheeler's final draft list of the top 100 players, which is pretty close to Pronman's list.
#3 Cooley
#26 Snuggerud
#30 Chesley
#52 Rinzel
HM Luke Mittelstadt
HM Kurth
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1533785712226705408
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Chris Peters final draft ranking. He ranks Rinzel higher than most.
#1 Cooley -- Praises Minnesota as a training ground for NHL, says Cooley will most likely be a 1 and done.
#22 Chesley -- Might be the most well rounded defenseman in the draft
#26 Snuggerud -- Well rounded, committed player who make others around him better
#29 Rinzel -- Rinzel is a very good skater for a player his size and has an innate ability to get pucks up ice with some incredible skill and vision.
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/2022-nhl-draft-rankings-logan-cooley-tops-shane-wright-in-final-list/
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Just a mock so obviously speculation, but saw one which had the Coyotes using their three first round picks on Cooley/Snuggerud/Rinzel. Would be fascinating.
If Chesley is available when the Wild pick it would be a no brainer imo. Rock solid 2 way right shot D. Definitely something the wild lack.
“What’s your Top 5 ‘top-ceiling’ players?”
1. Logan Cooley: It’s a big reason I have him No. 1 overall. I think he has star potential relative to the class and could end up being its most impactful and exciting player.
5. Sam Rinzel: A 6-foot-3 right-shot defenseman who needs a ton of development, I think Rinzel could be one of the real sleepers of the first round, but he’s going to need patience to become what I think his ceiling suggests he can be. He skates exceptionally well for a player his size, but I think the hockey sense still has a ways to go and some of the stuff he needs to fix can only come with experience. He needs tough competition on a regular basis and he should be getting it over the next few years.
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The Gophers have their 3rd goalie.
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Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
You're pretty tough on a kid you've likely never seen play. What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?
Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play. What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?
Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.
Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play. What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?
Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.
There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud. Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board. "Welcome to the team"....say out loud. "Looks like he had a great year last year".....out loud. Negative comments about the level at which he played....maybe keep that in your head.
Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play. What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?
Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.
There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud. Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board. “Welcome to the team”….say out loud. “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud. Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.
I try not to be too hard on college kids, because they're not getting paid for their performances. All they can do is try as hard as they can, and they have school to worry about as well. It's a tough job.
That said, it's hard to discuss the play of the team and players individually without criticism, however administered. Mistakes that lead to goals are made every game; players who are deficient in one or more skill sets make a difference to the outcome of games. For example, Brodzinski isn't blessed with quick feet. (I also think he loses too many one-on-one puck battles and that he has maybe the best shot on the team.) If nobody ever talked about that out of politeness or deference to friends and family who might jump on the board, it would be an obvious omission and, for me, a dishonest appraisal.
Questioning the ability of a kid to jump from the NAHL to college hockey isn't a negative sentiment. It's a sensible opinion. Moreover, it's not personal and it's not permanent. Opinions change and players can buck the odds. The coaching staff apparently feels this kid is worthy of the uniform as an unlikely, break-the-glass back up. That's good enough for me.
I always root for the underdog, but they're called underdogs for a reason.
This is where I can go to always find the cloud in the silver lining.
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Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play. What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?
Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.
There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud. Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board. “Welcome to the team”….say out loud. “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud. Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.
I try not to be too hard on college kids, because they’re not getting paid for their performances. All they can do is try as hard as they can, and they have school to worry about as well. It’s a tough job.
That said, it’s hard to discuss the play of the team and players individually without criticism, however administered. Mistakes that lead to goals are made every game; players who are deficient in one or more skill sets make a difference to the outcome of games. For example, Brodzinski isn’t blessed with quick feet. (I also think he loses too many one-on-one puck battles and that he has maybe the best shot on the team.) If nobody ever talked about that out of politeness or deference to friends and family who might jump on the board, it would be an obvious omission and, for me, a dishonest appraisal.
Questioning the ability of a kid to jump from the NAHL to college hockey isn’t a negative sentiment. It’s a sensible opinion. Moreover, it’s not personal and it’s not permanent. Opinions change and players can buck the odds. The coaching staff apparently feels this kid is worthy of the uniform as an unlikely, break-the-glass back up. That’s good enough for me.
I always root for the underdog, but they’re called underdogs for a reason.
Timing and tact. If you want to knock a guy for bad play, be my guest. But this kid just accepted an opportunity that he may be very excited about. No need to shit on him for the league he played in last year.
If the team lacked talent at a position of great need and they grab a guy from the NAHL or N3HL, then I assume the coaches failed on some recruits they hoped to get and they took what they could get. We've had head scratchers before. Then dump on the coaching staff, not the player. But if they're looking for a depth player- someone who may not see ice time in 4 years- why sweat it?
I guess I am having a hard time understanding any negative sentiment for a "underdog" kid coming in to fill a role that isn't high profile.
If anything, those are the guys you cheer hard for because any good (and unexpected) outcome by that type of player generally makes the team stronger.
I hope the kid comes in, works his butt off, and surprises some people (if he gets a chance to shine). :M:
Career practice goalie so I’ll ignore the fact we got him from tier 3 hockey.
Will play behind Close, Bartoskziewicz and hopefully Musser in his career.
You’re pretty tough on a kid you’ve likely never seen play. What type of resume do you expect from a guy willing to come in as a 3rd string goalie?
Not trying to come off hard on the kid he put up incredible numbers wherever he played. I’d have to do research but making the jump from NA3HL (minor leagues for the NAHL) to D1 is so rare it might be in the “never been done category”, especially for a goalie. Caught me off guard for sure.
There are parts you think in your head and parts you say out loud. Parents, friends, and players themselves read this board. “Welcome to the team”….say out loud. “Looks like he had a great year last year”…..out loud. Negative comments about the level at which he played….maybe keep that in your head.
I try not to be too hard on college kids, because they’re not getting paid for their performances. All they can do is try as hard as they can, and they have school to worry about as well. It’s a tough job.
That said, it’s hard to discuss the play of the team and players individually without criticism, however administered. Mistakes that lead to goals are made every game; players who are deficient in one or more skill sets make a difference to the outcome of games. For example, Brodzinski isn’t blessed with quick feet. (I also think he loses too many one-on-one puck battles and that he has maybe the best shot on the team.) If nobody ever talked about that out of politeness or deference to friends and family who might jump on the board, it would be an obvious omission and, for me, a dishonest appraisal.
Questioning the ability of a kid to jump from the NAHL to college hockey isn’t a negative sentiment. It’s a sensible opinion. Moreover, it’s not personal and it’s not permanent. Opinions change and players can buck the odds. The coaching staff apparently feels this kid is worthy of the uniform as an unlikely, break-the-glass back up. That’s good enough for me.
I always root for the underdog, but they’re called underdogs for a reason.
I don’t think this an unreasonable take ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I get that it’s a third stringer and he won’t play much so it’s likely not a big deal but as we saw last year you might actually need a capable third string goalie if a guy leaves. Making the jump from NA3 to NCAA is kind of unheard of so I get the comments. Ultimately he’s a gopher though so congrats to him and hopefully he’s a good locker room guy and practices hard etc.
I recently listened to a podcast with former Gopher 3rd stringer Ryan Coyne who basically said when he was being recruited he knew he was a backup’s backup. I don’t think Wiese expects to play over Close or Bartoskziewicz but as we saw with Close, he definitely needs to be ready because the opportunity might present itself.
I have no doubt that Wiese and his family know the strangeness of his commitment but I think that adds to the excitement of it all. If he was able to go NA3HL to the Gophers of all programs he is undoubtedly a hard worker and high character guy.
I guess I am having a hard time understanding any negative sentiment for a “underdog” kid coming in to fill a role that isn’t high profile.
If anything, those are the guys you cheer hard for because any good (and unexpected) outcome by that type of player generally makes the team stronger.
I hope the kid comes in, works his butt off, and surprises some people (if he gets a chance to shine).
Reminds me of someone in the recent past. I can’t quite remember his name, I feel like it’s on the tip of my tongue….so close….like really close….
a little help?