Put a weekend together any time now boys. It’d be great.
Snuggerud 2-4.
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SNUGGY!!!!!
It's not over yet
Gratton 5-2.
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Brodzinski 3-5, PPG.
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Close has been playing this game of sweeper keeper all year and I knew it was going to burn him eventually. Not a fan.
BRODZINSKI!!!! on the Power Play
They aren't giving up.
What’s frustrating is at least two, if not three, of the three goals we had scored on us were just moments where we shot ourselves in the foot. It didn’t need to be like this.
Dzhaniyev 6-3, ENG.
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Not a good game by our tendy
Game over, PSU wins 6-3.
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I expected icing on the last rink long shot by P state. Chelsey needs to up his game a bit.
Close looked great during the major, pretty pedestrian otherwise. Combine that with these silly mistakes they just refuse to stop making yet, and you’re not going to have a good time.
Sorry to beat a dead horse but Penn State’s third is directly off of a bad Chesley turnover. Their second goal is a breakaway because Mittlestadt can’t handle it at the blue line. Finally their fifth goal is an absolute pizza from Close thrown right to a Penn State player. Takeaway their ENG and that’s four of their six goals!!! We scored three and three that they made us work for. I’m not saying we win tonight if they don’t score those four because hockey is a crazy game and I’m not playing “what if” but you can’t give up six goals, especially in that manner, and expect to win anything. This team has got to figure itself out.
Too bad Wally hit the wrong button for us to hear Bob's postgame. They tried to recap it and they said Bob used the words colossal mistakes a few times. I thought Close was ok, and didn't cost them the game, but he didn't help us win either, as it was a team effort. Our defense just needs to learn that exiting the zone is their priority. Doesn't have to be pretty. They also need to win more puck battles to create more scoring chances. Tonight was a clunker, and maybe it will be Bob's 1st trash can kicking. The team does seem to bounce back after games like these. Next weekend is huge before the break.
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I think they’ve had some weekends like Duluth where they put together a complete performance and got unlucky in one of the games, MSU felt like that too. But the better part of this weekend was terrible, puck watching and just getting flat out beat all game today, the only urgency coming after going down after two quick ones against, only to go down by three. I recorded and just fast forwarded through the rest of the game after Mittlestadt’s gaffe, at that point there was no shot they were coming back.Put a weekend together any time now boys. It’d be great.
Moore needs to get going, he did have an assist yesterday but he’s invisible for large swaths of games. Not trying to single him out but I think we’d all agree that we expect better consistency from him. The D obviously had plenty of gaffes that need to be cleaned up but even offensively they’re taking too many bad shots and not doing enough to get the puck back after.
At this point I’m not confident they would sweep Robert Morris, they’re certainly capable of better but not if they play like they did for 4 periods of this weekend.
I also think they need a good feel good weekend with a couple of easy wins where some of the keys players start feeling good about their game again.
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All valid points though I also feel like they sorta just got outplayed on aggregate. They arguably should’ve down in the first yesterday and were fortunate to go +1 after giving up a 5 min PP on a reckless hit. They also are just super sloppy with the puck and don’t exactly make it hard for the other team to get it back. Part of this is taking bad shots from the point, part of it is just aimlessly throwing the puck like they did against Q last year, at times they just inexplicably have butter fingers and just give it up, bad decision making, etc etc. That’s not to say your perspective is wrong it’s just another way of looking at it, there were stints of good play this weekend mainly the last two periods yesterday and parts of today and I don’t expect the gophers to outshoot their opponents 100-0 every game but they do need to figure out how to be harder to play against.Sorry to beat a dead horse but Penn State’s third is directly off of a bad Chesley turnover. Their second goal is a breakaway because Mittlestadt can’t handle it at the blue line. Finally their fifth goal is an absolute pizza from Close thrown right to a Penn State player. Takeaway their ENG and that’s four of their six goals!!! We scored three and three that they made us work for. I’m not saying we win tonight if they don’t score those four because hockey is a crazy game and I’m not playing “what if” but you can’t give up six goals, especially in that manner, and expect to win anything. This team has got to figure itself out.
Glad the game accidentally got ruined for me before I could watch the replay... Yikes.
The silver lining is I put the Christmas tree up instead! 😀
All valid points though I also feel like they sorta just got outplayed on aggregate. They arguably should’ve down in the first yesterday and were fortunate to go +1 after giving up a 5 min PP on a reckless hit. They also are just super sloppy with the puck and don’t exactly make it hard for the other team to get it back. Part of this is taking bad shots from the point, part of it is just aimlessly throwing the puck like they did against Q last year, at times they just inexplicably have butter fingers and just give it up, bad decision making, etc etc. That’s not to say your perspective is wrong it’s just another way of looking at it, there were stints of good play this weekend mainly the last two periods yesterday and parts of today and I don’t expect the gophers to outshoot their opponents 100-0 every game but they do need to figure out how to be harder to play against.Sorry to beat a dead horse but Penn State’s third is directly off of a bad Chesley turnover. Their second goal is a breakaway because Mittlestadt can’t handle it at the blue line. Finally their fifth goal is an absolute pizza from Close thrown right to a Penn State player. Takeaway their ENG and that’s four of their six goals!!! We scored three and three that they made us work for. I’m not saying we win tonight if they don’t score those four because hockey is a crazy game and I’m not playing “what if” but you can’t give up six goals, especially in that manner, and expect to win anything. This team has got to figure itself out.
All fair points. I know people were joking yesterday about what we do and don’t deserve. In the end we probably “deserved” a split this weekend. Penn State has to feel hard done with how last night went and although we played well to start the game it felt like once Penn State went up two they never really looked back. There were points after that when we started to look better but still, we couldn’t string much together in the offensive zone and then we’d make a dumb mistake, and boom. It’s in the back of our net. I still have remind myself that while it wasn’t this clunky, last year didn’t immediately come together either and the year before we were splitting up through January. I hope it doesn’t take until then to figure it out but both of those seasons we made it the frozen four. Still a long way to go. Next weekend could be huge for points and confidence.
Sure, PSU got more puck luck than Minnesota, but they were also the better team. The Gophers didn't match PSU's energy and State was much better in their own end tonight.
To me, this was a cliche weekend of college hockey. The Gophers got what they needed last night, and Penn State, a decent team back in the conference standings, played with some desperation for the split--and got it.
Sure, PSU got more puck luck than Minnesota, but they were also the better team. The Gophers didn't match PSU's energy and State was much better in their own end tonight.
To me, this was a cliche weekend of college hockey. The Gophers got what they needed last night, and Penn State, a decent team back in the conference standings, played with some desperation for the split--and got it.
Yep. Classic weekend. And to everyone acting like the sky is falling, this is going to be the big ten this year. Need to sweep the team that’s the doormat though in OSU
I agree that the big ten is good this year and no series will be an easy sweep but this team is making a ton of unforced errors, not just the big ones like Mittlestadt’s either it’s usually multiple smaller mistakes that pile up to getting outshot and outplayed for large stretches. The effort level wasn’t good today either, far too often they’d watch their teammate look at the puck which they both weren’t moving their feet towards, I haven’t blamed effort too much this year because some of these series were kinda unlucky not to be sweeps (MSU and Duluth, WI series prob could’ve been a split) but it was pretty poor at times this weekend, unless you think PSU is just the better team. If the gophers are truly the best Big Ten team then this was as good a weekend as any to get a sweep and they just didn’t look up to the task at all.
Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
Glad the game accidentally got ruined for me before I could watch the replay... Yikes.
The silver lining is I put the Christmas tree up instead! 😀
Our tradition is to do that Black Friday. Then we get to go out and buy a new ornament for our downstairs tree.
also, didn't the boys and the Mrs help you?
Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
I'm not sure I see the appeal with Pino. I like what Strobel and J. Mitts bring to the lineup. Maybe a line with Moore centering those two, and then move Clark up to Lamb/Snuggerud's line.
Not to say Moore should be on the "fourth" line, but I like his speed with J. Mitts and Strobel's work ethic. They could make something happen I think.
Clark clearly deserves more top-line time, he's been very good.
Pitlick is tenacious out there. If only Snuggerud had some of Pitlick's tenacity on the forecheck.
Chesley has been good for about 2-3 game-breaking turnovers for the past month or two. He's gotta be better.
I’m a big fan of Chesley and I have always liked his game. Before the season started I predicted that he was going to an absolute stud and that we might even lose him to the pros after this season ended. I still think there’s a chance for the former but highly doubtful on the latter. There’s a lot to like. He plays a good physical game with a lot of grit and tenacity. He’s not afraid to jump up in the play and get involved offensively. HOWEVER, as many have pointed out, he has had a baffling amount of turnovers so far this season. Seems like at least one a game. Bad news is that until he figures it out it’s only going to hold him and the team back. Good news is that once he does figure it out look out! Because I think he’ll be an absolute weapon. Let’s just hope he does figure out, and fast.
As far as Pino, I’ve been one who’s mentioned it often before so I won’t get too much into it but I really don’t get why he’s dressing regularly while Strobel and Mittlestadt are the ones rotating in and out of the lineup. An energy line of Strobel-Clark-Mittlestadt was electric in one of the first games of the season and seems so obvious. What kind of dirt does Pino have on Motzko?
Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
Who the hell do you move down to the 4th line for Clark? Jimmy’s been fantastic tho love the way he’s played
Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
Who the hell do you move down to the 4th line for Clark? Jimmy’s been fantastic tho love the way he’s played
Huglen. Pretty easy for me:
Don’t touch Brodz/Nelson/Nevers or Pitlick/Moore/Kurth
Lamb and Snuggerud need someone with more elusiveness to go with their scoring ability. I like Huglen’s game, but that is the only logical experiment.
Also agree on Pino as odd man out.
Glad the game accidentally got ruined for me before I could watch the replay... Yikes.
The silver lining is I put the Christmas tree up instead! 😀
Our tradition is to do that Black Friday.
That's what we normally do, but, you know, kids.
Then we get to go out and buy a new ornament for our downstairs tree.
We've done that for several years, but now we have many, many animals for the tree, so we really only buy one if we love it or it's a new animal we didn't have before (like the kangaroo and puffin this year).
also, didn't the boys and the Mrs help you?
Oh yeah they always do. It was WAY more fun this year because the kids were actually excited about seeing all the silly animals, like the octopus throwing snowballs and the seagull with earmuffs eating a fish...
In any case, I did take a quick look at the BTN+ condensed game (good for future reference that they DO upload the game pretty quickly as opposed to in the past where it was take several days), and I do regret that they didn't have the more professional crew on Friday night. I couldn't stand the guy saying "whistles one wide" or saying Pinoniemi a different way every time he spoke... Pinomy, Pineemy... Don't they get a pronunciation guide?
These up and down weekends wouldn't hurt so much if the Wild were any good this year...
Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
Who the hell do you move down to the 4th line for Clark? Jimmy’s been fantastic tho love the way he’s played
Huglen or Nevers. Don’t think they will mess with the Nevers line, so probably Huglen. I don’t love doing it either, but at some point you have to produce points. The Lamb-Huglen-Snuggerud line isn’t exactly lighting it up together.
Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
Who the hell do you move down to the 4th line for Clark? Jimmy’s been fantastic tho love the way he’s played
Huglen or Nevers. Don’t think they will mess with the Nevers line, so probably Huglen. I don’t love doing it either, but at some point you have to produce points. The Lamb-Huglen-Snuggerud line isn’t exactly lighting it up together.
I like Pitlick-Moore-Kurth but I don’t think that line is untouchable. The only line that I definitely wouldn’t change up is the Nelson line. What if, and hear me out, you put together a line of Clark-Huglen-Snuggerud. Clark can play on the left wing. He brings the energy, goes hard on the forecheck, and can pass and shoot himself. Huglen is great at protecting the puck and finding open guys. Then just let Snuggy be Snuggy. The only thing is then who do put on that fourth line? I’d probably go Strobel-Mittlestadt-Lamb. I know Lamb has worked himself higher up the lineup this year and we’ve gotten more offensive production out of him but he played on the fourth line a lot last year, is tough as nails, and would offer a shooting presence on that line while still playing a responsible game. Or I don’t know. Put Kurth up the first line and he brings a physical presence like Knies did last year. While a Pitlick-Moore-Lamb line could be the speed line and just cause chaos.
I would like to see Nevers moved down as well. I know that the Farm Kid and Brodzy have been producing points, but Nevers hasn't really helped them. Lamb and Snuggy need a player to dig in the corners, and even though Clark is small, maybe he is the one to do it. Keep Moore, Pitlick and Kurth together for a bit longer, and move Huglen to the Farm Kid- Brodzy line. Huglen has been really poor at draws this year,( 4-18 this weekend) so maybe a break from doing that will be a reset for him. Have Nevers be on the 4th line with Pino,Strobel or Mittelstadt. The current 4th line has 1 goal and 4 total points, and makes me long for Ramsey, Romenko and Norman...
Maybe some of this years struggles can be attributed to injuries, and maybe Huglen, Koster, Chesley and Nevers are not still 100%. Let's hope the break will heal that stuff up and Chesley finds his game at the world juniors.
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Another weekend gone and I’m still sitting here baffled that Pino hasn't seen the press box.
Jimmy Clark deserves a shot on one of the top 3 lines. He is saddled down on the 4th line.
Chesley is a turnover machine.
On the plus side, the team stayed at 11 in the Pairwise, and there’s a lot of time between now and the playoffs.
Who the hell do you move down to the 4th line for Clark? Jimmy’s been fantastic tho love the way he’s played
Huglen. Pretty easy for me:
Don’t touch Brodz/Nelson/Nevers or Pitlick/Moore/Kurth
Lamb and Snuggerud need someone with more elusiveness to go with their scoring ability. I like Huglen’s game, but that is the only logical experiment.
Also agree on Pino as odd man out.
Huglen might be the most elusive player on the team
I’m expecting Oliver Moore to come back from world juniors a completely different player and light it up
I remember when Ballard was the whipping boy for a while much like Chesley seems to be these days. He was a turnover machine for like half a season when he became a leader of the defensive unit. Sometimes that happens. Ballard turned it around hardcore and I am sure Chesley will too. (actually happened with Martin too...they put way too much pressure on themselves in replacing great players)
Look I get that some of you have some weird hatred of Pino but I will trust that Motzko knows his team better than any of us do and he thinks he fills a role. He wouldn't be playing him out of some blind sense of loyalty there is obviously a reason. Hopefully by the end of the season we will know what it is.
One thing I have learned in the last 25 years is that every time I have thought I knew better than whoever the coach was I was wrong.
To be clear, I don’t have any hate towards Pino. I hope the guy proves me wrong. Scores the winner in St Paul this year or something. He’s much better than he was last year but I just have a hard time seeing where he brings more to the table than the other fourth line players. But to your point, there’s a reason why Motzko is behind the bench and I’m typing away on my phone. #InBobWeTrust
Coaches sometimes have blind spots too, even the greatest coaches, it’s more obvious in the NHL where you have more data to assess decision making. In this case who knows, it’s a fourth liner so it’s probably not a massive game changer either way. Pino is more of a long term project, I imagine they want him to be like fourth year Serratore as a senior.
Also Jackson LaCombe had some super rough moments early in his career, I remember him being a turnover machine in that horrible loss to North Dakota the one year. He improved nicely to say the least.
It’s a long season and every hockey team has bad games, ones where they look like they’re half awake. I think if some of the close games like the 2nd WI, 2nd Duluth, and 2nd MSU game went our way the narrative would be a bit Donte positive. Those were all games that were quite winnable and ended as ties and a loss and Close kinda got outplayed.
Pino is fine but he is by no reason an untouchable lineup fixture like he seems to be this year. He needs to be in the rotation with Strobel and Mittelstadt in my opinion.
I think I have to agree on Pino. No real hate toward him at all, but, he hasn't been anything special this year. Having him in rotation with Mittelstadt and Strobel makes sense. See what happens with both Mittelstadt and Strobel in the lineup a couple nights. If it's worse, then sure, maybe Pino deserves a full-time slot in the lineup, but, how can we know, yet?
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
/dead horse
Coaches sometimes have blind spots too, even the greatest coaches, it’s more obvious in the NHL where you have more data to assess decision making. In this case who knows, it’s a fourth liner so it’s probably not a massive game changer either way. Pino is more of a long term project, I imagine they want him to be like fourth year Serratore as a senior.
Also Jackson LaCombe had some super rough moments early in his career, I remember him being a turnover machine in that horrible loss to North Dakota the one year. He improved nicely to say the least.
It’s a long season and every hockey team has bad games, ones where they look like they’re half awake. I think if some of the close games like the 2nd WI, 2nd Duluth, and 2nd MSU game went our way the narrative would be a bit Donte positive. Those were all games that were quite winnable and ended as ties and a loss and Close kinda got outplayed.
Jackson Lacombe is also the same age as Pino. He's 22 years old, he's not an 18 year old defenseman where you can expect big improvements to come.
I don’t expect huge improvements from the guy I just think he could be a menace in year 4 as an older player. But I also don’t think he needs to be penciled in for an automatic spot every night.
The stuff about LaCombe was an entirely separate thought related to the development of the young D core, namely Chesley.