I'm sensing a B1G tournament championship in 23-24. Not sure on the league title as a three-peat is tough, but I think we get our turn at the conference tournament title setting up a solid run in the NCAA's.
We're due to win 2 of 3 or better in the banner department in a season.
I don't disagree. I also don't think that I ever said that the Boston game was a bad game for the Gophers. All the goal posts and just dumb luck that went against the Gophers probably has me remembering that game worse than it actually was.I saw the Gophers absolutely dominate the first ten minutes only for Close to give up a brutal goal. They didn't seem to really know what to do after that. Got a couple of PP's to take the lead at the end of the 1st. Weren't very good for the entire 2nd period but did play very well for the 3rd.No they didn't. Not even close. The St. Cloud game was the only one of the playoffs where they were solid for the entire game.I give them a ton of credit for playing like they had EVERYTHING TO LOSE. They threw caution to the wind and played for no regrets.The Gophers played like that for 10.5 periods in the tournament. Perhaps just another 0.5 and...
So I take it you didn’t watch the BU game
You can make a case that they played a better game against Boston, because they were extremely dominant at times, but I still think the Cloud game was a more complete game.
They dominated the first and third. Boston University had a push in the 2nd but the other team is allowed to play hockey too. The Terriers were supposed to be legit and they didn’t look like they were in the same league as us.
I've rewatched that penalty 10 times. People say Cooley should have skated away from it but the Q guy had a firm hold of his stick. There really was no way for Cooley to disengage.At some point during each of the Q games with Ohio State, Michigan, and Minnesota, I thought that Q would lose. But in each and every game, they played hard every shift and the puck bounced their way. Their perseverance paid off. Against MN, they got the luck they needed with a stupid-ref call
Yes, I know, I'm watching through maroon and gold glasses.
I've rewatched that penalty 10 times. People say Cooley should have skated away from it but the Q guy had a firm hold of his stick. There really was no way for Cooley to disengage.At some point during each of the Q games with Ohio State, Michigan, and Minnesota, I thought that Q would lose. But in each and every game, they played hard every shift and the puck bounced their way. Their perseverance paid off. Against MN, they got the luck they needed with a stupid-ref call
Yes, I know, I'm watching through maroon and gold glasses.
The official literally 10 feet away saw it that way and indicated no call forthcoming.
In hindsight, it would have been better for him to call both players right away. Then the dweeb 150 feet away wouldn't have had the chance to help decide the game.
It was a bad call. And like mentioned above, the infuriating part is it was the referee from way behind the play that made it.
It still stings to even think about/comment on lol.
I've rewatched that penalty 10 times. People say Cooley should have skated away from it but the Q guy had a firm hold of his stick. There really was no way for Cooley to disengage.At some point during each of the Q games with Ohio State, Michigan, and Minnesota, I thought that Q would lose. But in each and every game, they played hard every shift and the puck bounced their way. Their perseverance paid off. Against MN, they got the luck they needed with a stupid-ref call
Yes, I know, I'm watching through maroon and gold glasses.
The official literally 10 feet away saw it that way and indicated no call forthcoming.
In hindsight, it would have been better for him to call both players right away. Then the dweeb 150 feet away wouldn't have had the chance to help decide the game.
This!
For some reason, Eddie Imgonnausemywhistle had to have his Frozen Four moment.
I like Close. I like his story. All of sudden being thrusted into the starting goalie role for a school where many of its fans think “If the team doesn't win a national championship, the season is a disappointment.” The Gophers most likely don't reach the Frozen Four two years ago if it weren't for Close stepping up when LaFontaine left.
I will say this. I will be a lot more confident going into the 2024 season if Close comes back.
Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
@mikeeruzione11 It was a terrible call.
IT was either coincidental or no call. Quinnipiac made dirty runs at Cooley all night long, probably most could not be seen on tv.
@mikeeruzione11 It was a terrible call.
IT was either coincidental or no call. Quinnipiac made dirty runs at Cooley all night long, probably most could not be seen on tv.
No doubt it effected the game. I still put most of the blame on changing the neutral zone and aggressiveness halfway through the game. And the fact we got killed on face offs played a huge factor in it.
@mikeeruzione11 It was a terrible call.
IT was either coincidental or no call. Quinnipiac made dirty runs at Cooley all night long, probably most could not be seen on tv.
No doubt it effected the game. I still put most of the blame on changing the neutral zone and aggressiveness halfway through the game. And the fact we got killed on face offs played a huge factor in it.
Putting a guy in the neutral zone doesn’t prevent the team from getting 2 shots on goal in the 3rd, not being able to get the puck out of their zone, not winning 50/50 pucks, losing nearly every face off, and Snuggy bottling it on that 2 on 1 in the 3rd.
If the players come back that we are hoping for, it’s not unrealistic to expect a trip to St. Paul next season.
@mikeeruzione11 It was a terrible call.
IT was either coincidental or no call. Quinnipiac made dirty runs at Cooley all night long, probably most could not be seen on tv.
No doubt it effected the game. I still put most of the blame on changing the neutral zone and aggressiveness halfway through the game. And the fact we got killed on face offs played a huge factor in it.
Putting a guy in the neutral zone doesn’t prevent the team from getting 2 shots on goal in the 3rd, not being able to get the puck out of their zone, not winning 50/50 pucks, losing nearly every face off, and Snuggy bottling it on that 2 on 1 in the 3rd.
If the players come back that we are hoping for, it’s not unrealistic to expect a trip to St. Paul next season.
All of this is true, but it's also true that as horrid as Minnesota was playing, they just might have pulled it off if not for the BS call with 5 minutes left in regulation.
@mikeeruzione11 It was a terrible call.
IT was either coincidental or no call. Quinnipiac made dirty runs at Cooley all night long, probably most could not be seen on tv.
No doubt it effected the game. I still put most of the blame on changing the neutral zone and aggressiveness halfway through the game. And the fact we got killed on face offs played a huge factor in it.
Putting a guy in the neutral zone doesn’t prevent the team from getting 2 shots on goal in the 3rd, not being able to get the puck out of their zone, not winning 50/50 pucks, losing nearly every face off, and Snuggy bottling it on that 2 on 1 in the 3rd.
If the players come back that we are hoping for, it’s not unrealistic to expect a trip to St. Paul next season.
Don’t disagree with any of this. Many many factors played into the loss. In my opinion that penalty call is one of them (near bottom of list).
And I expect a trip back to the frozen four.
@norm - I agree. I got off the plane from Tampa and hustled home to take a look at my DVR (they didn't show/replay penalties in the rink). I should've just let it go because it bothered me more watching it back. I really should delete that recording come to think of it...
Isnt Brodzinski a free agent if the Flyers fail to sign him by August?Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
if so we may not hear about Bryce until late summer.
He can file for free agency in July or August if he wants. If he decides to return to school, I'm pretty sure Philadelphia would keep his rights until next summer.Isnt Brodzinski a free agent if the Flyers fail to sign him by August?Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
if so we may not hear about Bryce until late summer.
Philly would retain his rights even though he is a senior? I obviously don’t keep up on these thing but I thought the FA came after the JR year.He can file for free agency in July or August if he wants. If he decides to return to school, I'm pretty sure Philadelphia would keep his rights until next summer.Isnt Brodzinski a free agent if the Flyers fail to sign him by August?Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
if so we may not hear about Bryce until late summer.
I think it’s one of those things where a team isn’t punished for a player wanting to continue school.
I think the rule is that you keep a players rights as long as they stay in school. If the player has finished 4 years of school he can then have the option of becoming a free agent.Philly would retain his rights even though he is a senior? I obviously don’t keep up on these thing but I thought the FA came after the JR year.He can file for free agency in July or August if he wants. If he decides to return to school, I'm pretty sure Philadelphia would keep his rights until next summer.Isnt Brodzinski a free agent if the Flyers fail to sign him by August?Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
if so we may not hear about Bryce until late summer.
I think the rule is that you keep a players rights as long as they stay in school. If the player has finished 4 years of school he can then have the option of becoming a free agent.Philly would retain his rights even though he is a senior? I obviously don’t keep up on these thing but I thought the FA came after the JR year.He can file for free agency in July or August if he wants. If he decides to return to school, I'm pretty sure Philadelphia would keep his rights until next summer.Isnt Brodzinski a free agent if the Flyers fail to sign him by August?Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
if so we may not hear about Bryce until late summer.
Also if a player is drafted, and plays in juniors, it is 5 years. For example, Huglen was drafted in 2019, and played in juniors and he can become a free agent after next year (2024), his junior year because it will be 5 years. That is why his name has been brought up by some as a slight flight risk if Buffalo is afraid of losing his rights.
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I don't believe that is true, unless it has been changed recently. I thought the rule was anyone going the college route had 4 years after he was drafted. Wheeler was allowed to declare free agency after his Junior year of school. So was Mike Reilly. Because both played a year of Junior after being drafted but before starting schoolI think the rule is that you keep a players rights as long as they stay in school. If the player has finished 4 years of school he can then have the option of becoming a free agent.Philly would retain his rights even though he is a senior? I obviously don’t keep up on these thing but I thought the FA came after the JR year.He can file for free agency in July or August if he wants. If he decides to return to school, I'm pretty sure Philadelphia would keep his rights until next summer.Isnt Brodzinski a free agent if the Flyers fail to sign him by August?Same here! I bet we hear from Cooley, Close, Nelson, Brodzinski by the end of the week.
I hope so, I am obsessing over their decisions.
if so we may not hear about Bryce until late summer.
Also if a player is drafted, and plays in juniors, it is 5 years. For example, Huglen was drafted in 2019, and played in juniors and he can become a free agent after next year (2024), his junior year because it will be 5 years. That is why his name has been brought up by some as a slight flight risk if Buffalo is afraid of losing his rights.
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NCAA guys is 4 yearsHow long do NHL Draft rights last?For collegiate and college-track players, NHL teams hold the rights to drafted prospects for the duration of their NCAA eligibility. In the case of a player who spends his draft-plus-year in an amateur junior A league such as the USHL before starting college, it could be a five-year signing window.
Canadian Juniors are 2 years
European countries other than Russia are 4 years(not 100% sure on this one)
Russia doesn't have a transfer agreement with the NHL so you hold their rights indefinitely
@j22 I guess we have conflicting info-- This is what I have found.
For a college-drafted player, it’s more complicated. In general, the club retains his contract rights until Aug. 15 following the graduation of his college class as long as he remains in school.
If a college-drafted player leaves school early, the club holds his rights until June 1 four years after he was drafted.
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I don't know the rule 100% for certain. I do know that players have become free agents after only 3 years of school though. It is possible the rule has changed since Reilly turned pro@j22 I guess we have conflicting info--
For a college-drafted player, it’s more complicated. In general, the club retains his contract rights until Aug. 15 following the graduation of his college class as long as he remains in school.
If a college-drafted player leaves school early, the club holds his rights until June 1 four years after he was drafted.
I think the quote you have above is exactly what pertains to Brodzinski. The Flyers hold his rights until he graduates, if he stays in school. If he wants to leave school before graduation, he needs to be 4 years removed from his draft to qualify for free agency.
Whether ir not Bryce himself graduates this year “his graduating class” would be 2023 (as he is a senior). He was drafted in 2019, so it sounds as if he would become a free agent on Aug 15 of this year, if he does not first sign with Philly.@j22 I guess we have conflicting info-- This is what I have found.
For a college-drafted player, it’s more complicated. In general, the club retains his contract rights until Aug. 15 following the graduation of his college class as long as he remains in school.
If a college-drafted player leaves school early, the club holds his rights until June 1 four years after he was drafted.
Hopefully Cooley is watching these guys that came back log a decent amount of time in the NHL playoffs. Faber looked good yesterday and hopefully Knies has similar success tonight.
As much as school isn’t fun, BIG hockey has got to feel more fulfilling than the AHL.
Hopefully Cooley is watching these guys that came back log a decent amount of time in the NHL playoffs. Faber looked good yesterday and hopefully Knies has similar success tonight.
As much as school isn’t fun, BIG hockey has got to feel more fulfilling than the AHL.
Cooley would have been steamrolled last night. That was a very physical hockey game.
Spurgeon was getting blasted all over the rink. To his credit (and Brodin's), he did not back down from it.
Under the circumstances—the stick work, the intensity, and the physical play—Faber was nothing short of amazing. He won his share of battles, always made the safe play, and didn't back down or give up space.
Yeah I was very impressed with Faber. A couple times he found himself under pressure from a heavy forecheck and seemed to make the play each time.
The Coyotes GM was interviewed today during a podcast. He was asked about Cooley and when a decision might be coming. He thinks it will be coming soon, but he gave zero indication on which way Cooley is leaning. His son plays for BU and joked to Cooley on their recent call that the refs wore Minnesota jerseys during that game.
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So the Coyotes GM's son plays for BU, but Dad didn't even watch the game?The Coyotes GM was interviewed today during a podcast. He was asked about Cooley and when a decision might be coming. He thinks it will be coming soon, but he gave zero indication on which way Cooley is leaning. His son plays for BU and joked to Cooley on their recent call that the refs wore Minnesota jerseys during that game.
So the Coyotes GM's son plays for BU, but Dad didn't even watch the game?The Coyotes GM was interviewed today during a podcast. He was asked about Cooley and when a decision might be coming. He thinks it will be coming soon, but he gave zero indication on which way Cooley is leaning. His son plays for BU and joked to Cooley on their recent call that the refs wore Minnesota jerseys during that game.
He was at the game, and clearly wanted his son to win, and was joking about the refs. He said Cooley replied that he gladly accepted the power plays they got. It was strange that he talked about the QU player they drafted and that elated to go back to school. He had no problem with that decision, but really didn't go into Cooley except for what I wrote about.
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Yeah I was very impressed with Faber. A couple times he found himself under pressure from a heavy forecheck and seemed to make the play each time.
Or more importantly, not try to make a play that wasn’t there.
The latest on Ryan Johnson and the Sabres, which is the same as before.
https://twitter.com/MatthewFairburn/status/1648707186023972864
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I keep refreshing the page hoping for some good news, the offseason announcements have definitely died off.
One more year Close, Nelson, and Brodz! Hoping for some good news soon also.
I’ll take a Cooley and Johnson as well.One more year Close, Nelson, and Brodz! Hoping for some good news soon also.
One more year Close, Nelson, and Brodz! Hoping for some good news soon also.
I think this is very likely.
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I’ll take a Cooley and Johnson as well.
One more year Close, Nelson, and Brodz! Hoping for some good news soon also.
Pretty positive Johnson won’t be back. I am hoping all the rest are. That would out this team near the top of the contenders list for next season.
To those that track these decisions/ announcements each year, what is the typical timeframe for situations like Cooley where their NHL team is not in the playoffs? For example, when did we get Knies/Faber/LaCombe announcements last year?
April 12th for Faber and April 14th for Knies. April 16th for LaCome. We should know soon.
Just a thought. Surely Luke and John Mitts recognize that Casey would have benefitted from a second year here. Maybe they can convey that to Cooley.
Watching the Leafs game last night, both Buccigross and Kevin Weekes were surprised Cooley hadn’t signed yet. They thought he would have right away. Maybe it was the maroon and gold in my ears, but they sounded like they thought he might come back.
I guess I will never get this. We want every player to play against older, better competition with more games before coming to the Gophers because that will better prepare them. However, it is always a terrible decision for our players to leave early to play against older, better competition with more games to prepare for the NHL level. Plus they get $900,000. I can see staying in college if you like it and it is fun and you get to be a college student but to purely prepare for the next level it seems like all hockey all the time better prepares you than 34 to 40 games over six months.
Is it any surprise that fans would like to see players on their favorite team not leave early and use any rationale possible to make their case? Fan is short for fanatic - logic doesn't always come into play. ?
I guess I will never get this. We want every player to play against older, better competition with more games before coming to the Gophers because that will better prepare them. However, it is always a terrible decision for our players to leave early to play against older, better competition with more games to prepare for the NHL level. Plus they get $900,000. I can see staying in college if you like it and it is fun and you get to be a college student but to purely prepare for the next level it seems like all hockey all the time better prepares you than 34 to 40 games over six months.
I don’t think anyone says it always is a bad decision to leave early. The Cooley argument would be to gain size/muscle while playing PP1 and maybe adding PK duties which will prep him for the next level rather than slogging it out playing middle lines in the NHL and getting hit by those that are bigger than he is. I would say he’s definitely more ready than Middelstadt was when he left, but could also see him (and his advisors plus the Coyotes brass) wanting to stay to polish his skills and gain size against guys nearer his age.
seems like he’s leaning toward staying from reading the tea leaves that it’s taking is long, but we’ll see. Guess there’s no rush for him though tbh so maybe it means nothing