As a neutral (but leaning Bills) fan that was one hell of a game.
Gut wrenching for those on the wrong end. ?
I've lived through all 4 of the Vikings' Super Bowl losses, but 2009 and New Orleans was the worst for me. I was so positive they were going to the Super Bowl, right up until that field goal went through the uprights. I was totally wiped after that one and sincerely felt ill from lack of sleep for a couple days. My condolences to The Rube. It's like "Uggghhhhhhhh..." :ddown:
It was setup perfectly this year for the Bills' Vengeance Tour 2022:
NE: obvious reasons
KC: last year's AFC Title game
TN (Memphis Miracle) or CIN (1988 AFC Championship)
And then possibly beating Brady in the SB.
That would have been a dream come true...
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
As a neutral (but leaning Bills) fan that was one hell of a game.
Gut wrenching for those on the wrong end. ?
I've lived through all 4 of the Vikings' Super Bowl losses, but 2009 and New Orleans was the worst for me. I was so positive they were going to the Super Bowl, right up until that field goal went through the uprights. I was totally wiped after that one and sincerely felt ill from lack of sleep for a couple days. My condolences to The Rube. It's like "Uggghhhhhhhh..." :ddown:
It was setup perfectly this year for the Bills' Vengeance Tour 2022:
NE: obvious reasons
KC: last year's AFC Title game
TN (Memphis Miracle) or CIN (1988 AFC Championship)
And then possibly beating Brady in the SB.
That would have been a dream come true...
I can put this in GPL terms for you
The bills list to what is probably the frontrunner to win the whole thing. As a result, the bills are a useless garbage team not deserving of time in the playoffs. If you disagree you are just ok with mediocrity
The young Padawan is learning the ways of the Board! 
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
For the 2009 Season going into the NFL championship game the Vikings were 13-0 in games I was at and 0-4 in games I wasn't at. My bud and I had made a pack before going to the game in New Orleans that is the Vikings won we were going to the Super Bowl no matter what it cost us. When the Vikings were in field goal position to kick a game winning at the end of regulation the field goal would have been kicked in the end zone we were sitting in so we had a perfect view of interception. Sidney Rice was wide open so I point at him but Favre held onto to the ball a second too long so when he let the ball go I immediately saw that the defender would be able to cut in front and started cringing.
But again, the clock only starts running ONCE KC touched it. They can field the ball and immediately take a knee/give themselves up, and no time off the clock.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Never thought of this (thanks to a friend):
Bills should have immediately tackled every receiver on the last play from scrimmage. Throw them to the ground. Defensive holding, five yard penalty, one untimed play from the Chiefs 49.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
Until Hill picks it up and runs it back for a TD and you lose instead of going to OT and then they second guess that decision too. I’m assuming their thought was a touchback was the lesser of 2 evils. Hill doing that is a very real possibility. I’m assuming Reid had him back there and if he didn’t he should have.
Never thought of this (thanks to a friend):
Bills should have immediately tackled every receiver on the last play from scrimmage. Throw them to the ground. Defensive holding, five yard penalty, one untimed play from the Chiefs 49.
I just watched the replay of that play and there was no Bill within 5 yards of Kelse to even tackle him off the line.
Never thought of this (thanks to a friend):
Bills should have immediately tackled every receiver on the last play from scrimmage. Throw them to the ground. Defensive holding, five yard penalty, one untimed play from the Chiefs 49.
I just watched the replay of that play and there was no Bill within 5 yards of Kelse to even tackle him off the line.
You cannot give Kelce that space. You cannot.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Here's why they lost
<img class="go2wpf-bbcode" src=" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ1ds0pXEAcJ8TE?format=jpg&name=mediu m" alt="">
Never thought of this (thanks to a friend):
Bills should have immediately tackled every receiver on the last play from scrimmage. Throw them to the ground. Defensive holding, five yard penalty, one untimed play from the Chiefs 49.
I just watched the replay of that play and there was no Bill within 5 yards of Kelse to even tackle him off the line.
You cannot give Kelce that space. You cannot.
They were in the preventiest of prevent defenses. It’s like they conceded the FG so make sure they didn’t lose on a TD.
[mention]Chill Kessel[/mention] There are crazier Bills Mafia fans than that...trust me.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Here's why they lost
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That’s some bad juju
I know but this guy's mom definitely influenced the game
I know but this guy's mom definitely influenced the game
What if she was abusive, or a mass murderer, or whatever? You don't know.
/devil's advocate
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Leslie Frazier is the Bills Defensive Coordinator. #TheVikingsCurseStrikesAgain
I know but this guy's mom definitely influenced the game
What if she was abusive, or a mass murderer, or whatever? You don't know.
/devil's advocate
She was the bonin21 guy's mom
I would say this weekend has been just a bit of an upgrade over last weekend.
I think all 4 games were decided on the last play…?…snooze
Guy on NFL Network is claiming there has never been more than 3 walkoff games in any NFL postseason year and we had 4 just this weekend.
There was a stat, and let's see if I can remember correctly, that the previous record (cumulative) winning margin spread for the games was 18...going into tonight's game, this weekend was 9 points. Yeah. That's just crazy.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
“When your best friend is the son of God, you get tired of losing every argument.”
― Christopher Moore, Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal
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I don't know for sure but I think he meant to post a video of a fan with a Kelce jersey getting smoked by Diggs and of course taken off the field
https://twitter.com/carlfugate/status/1485443010817105921?s=21br >
Honestly, I think Diggs saved this guy from Dawkins killing him. Was unable to save his shoe from him, though.
https://twitter.com/carlfugate/status/1485443010817105921?s=21br >
Honestly, I think Diggs saved this guy from Dawkins killing him.
Was unable to save his shoe from him.
The shoe throw!
“When your best friend is the son of God, you get tired of losing every argument.”
― Christopher Moore, Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
And the ball is a live on a KO so you put it where it can't be fair caught and it also doesn't go out of bounds.
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
And the ball is a live on a KO so you put it where it can't be fair caught and it also doesn't go out of bounds.
THAT art has all about disappeared. I don't even recall last time I saw a coffin corner punt. 
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
They gotta change the rule at least in the playoffs. That game is too good not to give Allen a chance to answer
I would say give each team the ball in OT, but further back than the 25 yard line, as it is in college. This was one of those games where you knew the OT coin toss would decide the outcome.
College is as close to perfect as one can get for OT rules. I just ask that EACH team gets possession once.
1) the current college OT rule is a joke. They go to a 2pt conversion contest after 2 overtime periods
2) in your "each team gets possession once" overtime, say both teams drive down and score a TD as it seems most people believe would be the case. Then the game is still getting decided by a coin toss because whoever got the ball first would get it again and go score again.
The young Padawan is learning the ways of the Board!
Catches on quickly, doesn't he?
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
If they pick up the ball and kneel it immediately no time runs off the clock. And they'd likely be getting better field position on a squib kick than a touchback.
Plus they run the risk of the ball taking a weird bounce and going out of bounds and giving up 15 more yards.
IIRC the Vikings lost a key game doing the squib kick instead of kicking it deep a couple years ago and Zimmer raged about how he told the special teams to kick it out of the endzone. Special teams coordinator decided to squib it and the other team went down and scored because they only had to go about 30 yards.
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
If they pick up the ball and kneel it immediately no time runs off the clock. And they'd likely be getting better field position on a squib kick than a touchback.
Plus they run the risk of the ball taking a weird bounce and going out of bounds and giving up 15 more yards.
IIRC the Vikings lost a key game doing the squib kick instead of kicking it deep a couple years ago and Zimmer raged about how he told the special teams to kick it out of the endzone. Special teams coordinator decided to squib it and the other team went down and scored because they only had to go about 30 yards.
When it came to special teams…if Zimmer raged against it…then it had to be the correct play…lmao…but what you are referring to …..on a short field following a 15 yard penalty, I recall the Viking kicker trying to pouch it, but instead kicking it into the end zone ?
So will the Rams be the second team to win a SB in their home stadium?
Aloha!
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
If they pick up the ball and kneel it immediately no time runs off the clock. And they'd likely be getting better field position on a squib kick than a touchback.
Plus they run the risk of the ball taking a weird bounce and going out of bounds and giving up 15 more yards.
IIRC the Vikings lost a key game doing the squib kick instead of kicking it deep a couple years ago and Zimmer raged about how he told the special teams to kick it out of the endzone. Special teams coordinator decided to squib it and the other team went down and scored because they only had to go about 30 yards.
When it came to special teams…if Zimmer raged against it…then it had to be the correct play…lmao…but what you are referring to …..on a short field following a 15 yard penalty, I recall the Viking kicker trying to pouch it, but instead kicking it into the end zone ?
Bearpaw is correct. I don't recall who the kicker was, but he put the ball out of the end zone, which gave Stafford and the Lions the ball at the 20 with something like 33 seconds and two timeouts to go down and kick a game winning field goal. The kicker was gone before the next game.
Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes - Harry S Truman
The kicker was gone before the next game.
With Zim? :shocking:
“When your best friend is the son of God, you get tired of losing every argument.”
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Why does an NFL overtime need to be sudden death? Give each team a couple of timeouts, and play another 15 minute quarter.
I have heard a lot of people say in the last fews years that they were done with the NFL. Well, they missed a heck of a weekend of football. The NFL Gods even saved the best game for the last game last night. What a great game. Held my interest through the game, and the with reaction of people on social media, it did the same for them. Just a couple of thoughts. The KC play late in the game when Andy Reid tried to outsmart himself using the backup TE trying to run the option was stupid. This is not a game in October, and Mahomes needs to be the guy touching the ball there. On Buffalo side you can question the kickoff but the bottom line the best defense in the league gave up a FG to tie the game and a TD in OT. If I was a Buffalo fan, I would have been fairly confident that they would have held them to a minimum FG and would have given Allen a chance to get the ball to win the game in OT. The Chiefs better watch out because Burrow and Chase will carve them up because the defensive backs on the Chiefs are sieves.
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
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It really sucks that such a great game basically got decided in the end by the OT coin toss.
I was at the game in New Orleans when the Saints beat the Vikings in OT of the NFC Championship Game (the game that the Saints Bounty gate revolved around). The Saints winning the OT coin toss and wining with a first possession FG caused the NFL to change the rule to a first possession TD. Still a horrible rule. It burned the Vikings, the Falcons and now the Bills.
If KC kicks a FG BUF still gets a possession. KC running 2 plays from their own 25 with 13 seconds left and somehow getting into FG range was the major Buffalo fail, not whether they squibed it or not. All the second guessing gets ridiculous.
If KC fields a kick that has touched the ground, the clock runs & KC has 10 seconds rather than 13. Just saying kicking it out of the end zone made no sense when KC had 3 timeouts
If they pick up the ball and kneel it immediately no time runs off the clock. And they'd likely be getting better field position on a squib kick than a touchback.
Plus they run the risk of the ball taking a weird bounce and going out of bounds and giving up 15 more yards.
IIRC the Vikings lost a key game doing the squib kick instead of kicking it deep a couple years ago and Zimmer raged about how he told the special teams to kick it out of the endzone. Special teams coordinator decided to squib it and the other team went down and scored because they only had to go about 30 yards.
When it came to special teams…if Zimmer raged against it…then it had to be the correct play…lmao…but what you are referring to …..on a short field following a 15 yard penalty, I recall the Viking kicker trying to pouch it, but instead kicking it into the end zone ?
It was this year against Arizona right before half that I was thinking of. The Vikings had just scored before half to take a 23-21 lead. We squib kicked it, Arizona picked it up and got it out to the 35, ran two plays for 20 yards and kicked a long FG as time expired. Instead of a 2 point lead at half we were down by one en route to losing by one.
All this talk of how the Bills should have handled the kickoff...how 'bout asking the Number 1 defense to stop the other team with 13 seconds left in the game?
19 yards on the first play; 25 yards on the second. Total of 10 seconds burned off the clock.
The last time I saw that kind of defensive porosity was when Leslie Fraser was the Vikings' coach. 
I would say this weekend has been just a bit of an upgrade over last weekend.
I think all 4 games were decided on the last play…?…snooze
Just like the NBA, really only need to watch the last 5 minutes 
All this talk of how the Bills should have handled the kickoff...how 'bout asking the Number 1 defense to stop the other team with 13 seconds left in the game?
19 yards on the first play; 25 yards on the second. Total of 10 seconds burned off the clock.
The last time I saw that kind of defensive porosity was when Leslie Fraser was the Vikings' coach.
30 yard cushion first play and letting Kelce wide open inside was pretty brutal.
Souhan's Sunday Strib column about Leslie Frazier being the best choice, even though a "rerun" , as the next Viking coach certainly hasn't aged well.
Souhan's Sunday Strib column about Leslie Frazier being the best choice, even though a "rerun" , as the next Viking coach certainly hasn't aged well.
He's more likely to go to the Giants. Their new GM is Joe Schoen (formerly Assistant GM for the Bills), and they have interviewed both Frasier and Brian Daboll.
P.S. Souhan is an idiot
Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes - Harry S Truman
It sounds like Sean Payton is considering leaving the Saints. Would he be interested in coaching the Vikings? If so is he the right person for the job?
It sounds like Sean Payton is considering leaving the Saints. Would he be interested in coaching the Vikings? If so is he the right person for the job?
Get the banhammer
https://twitter.com/carlfugate/status/1485443010817105921?s=21br >
Mike Curtis did it better. :club: :blackeye:
[media] https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1485314361312915456 [/media]
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
Oops.
Mike Curtis did it better. :club: :blackeye:
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"He was breaking a city ordinance so I enforced it."
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I mean I assume the reason he took it in BTC was because he doesn't need the money immediately. If he holds onto that BTC for another year or two (or longer) it still could turn out to be a great deal for him.
Crypto prices are like the weather in MN, if you don't like it, just wait 5 minutes lol
Of course it could just as easily become the anti-Bobby Bonilla day for him.
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It sounds like Sean Payton is considering leaving the Saints. Would he be interested in coaching the Vikings? If so is he the right person for the job?
He shouldn't get a job anyplace.