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Karlsson wrote:

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The Iowa guy forfeited rather than wrestle steveson for the championship

Is he actually hurt or are they trying to get him in a certain place in the NCAA bracket?

Probably the latter as Iowa had about 4 guys forfeit instead of wrestle in their various 1st, 3rd, or 5th place matches.


   
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Gopherguy05 wrote:

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The Iowa guy forfeited rather than wrestle steveson for the championship

Is he actually hurt or are they trying to get him in a certain place in the NCAA bracket?

Probably the latter as Iowa had about 4 guys forfeit instead of wrestle in their various 1st, 3rd, or 5th place matches.

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Karlsson wrote:

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The Iowa guy forfeited rather than wrestle steveson for the championship

Is he actually hurt or are they trying to get him in a certain place in the NCAA bracket?

I believe it has to do with national seeding, but I am not an expert in anything


   
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OMG m, that is so chicken shit.


   
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A standing ovation

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I'm kind of tired of reading about this situation that took place at the B1G Wrestling Championships this weekend. Iowa is catching the brunt of the criticism since they are the standard most other programs judge themselves against and fans judge their programs against. Admittedly coach Tom Brands of Iowa keeps putting Iowa in the limelight for the wrong reasons which is pisses me off. The shoving at the end of the Iowa vs. Iowa State match this season was embarrassing. The way that some of the wrestlers (*cough* Austin DeSanto *cough*) carry themselves is embarrassing.

Two of the Iowa forfeits I can kind of see because the wrestlers were actually injured or wrestling with injuries and Iowa deemed it more important to not cause further injury to Eierman and Kemerer. The other two were just chicken shit. Honestly I now hope that Iowa gets rolled in the NCAA's minus Alex Marinelli who is what Iowa wrestling used to look like.

This is kind of a culmination of what I see is going wrong with the sport of traditional high school and college wrestling. Gamesmanship by coaches using their wrestlers as pawns in a different mind game. Wrestling used to be coaches putting their best wrestlers out on the mat versus the best wrestlers the opposing team put out there. Now it is a chess game and a cat and mouse game of trying to create mismatches with their lineups to be able to put up bonus points on the scoreboard. Then you get this bullcrap like this past weekend where because Iowa wasn't in the hunt for the team title they forfeit matches to save wear and tear on their wrestlers. It's kind of like sitting your star players at the end of the season because you already made the playoffs. It's bullshit.

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g-manpuck wrote:

I'm kind of tired of reading about this situation that took place at the B1G Wrestling Championships this weekend. Iowa is catching the brunt of the criticism since they are the standard most other programs judge themselves against and fans judge their programs against. Admittedly coach Tom Brands of Iowa keeps putting Iowa in the limelight for the wrong reasons which is pisses me off. The shoving at the end of the Iowa vs. Iowa State match this season was embarrassing. The way that some of the wrestlers (*cough* Austin DeSanto *cough*) carry themselves is embarrassing.

Two of the Iowa forfeits I can kind of see because the wrestlers were actually injured or wrestling with injuries and Iowa deemed it more important to not cause further injury to Eierman and Kemerer. The other two were just chicken $h!t. Honestly I now hope that Iowa gets rolled in the NCAA's minus Alex Marinelli who is what Iowa wrestling used to look like.

This is kind of a culmination of what I see is going wrong with the sport of traditional high school and college wrestling. Gamesmanship by coaches using their wrestlers as pawns in a different mind game. Wrestling used to be coaches putting their best wrestlers out on the mat versus the best wrestlers the opposing team put out there. Now it is a chess game and a cat and mouse game of trying to create mismatches with their lineups to be able to put up bonus points on the scoreboard. Then you get this bullcrap like this past weekend where because Iowa wasn't in the hunt for the team title they forfeit matches to save wear and tear on their wrestlers. It's kind of like sitting your star players at the end of the season because you already made the playoffs. It's BS.

Glad to read this, as a non wrestler I was surprised and confused at the forfeits. The hallmarks of my wrestling friends in high school (and a couple at work) is pride, self sacrifice, and a true sense of team that I have always respected & been amazed the sacrifices they made to compete at a high level.

Obviously these guys never saw Vision Quest nor will they sleep with Linda Fiorentino. ;)

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https://twitter.com/gopherbaseball/status/1502484503578652674?s=21

4-11 start with loses to SDSU, NDSU, and now Air Force. I was hoping that last season was a fluke, but looks like the same thing game after game.


   
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Not to mention being up 5-1 in the 7th and blowing the game tonight


   
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He's a bad, bad, man!

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Gable advances to wrestle for the National Championship again. Pulled off a crazy takedown move in 3rd period against #4 seed from Penn State and ends up winning 8-3.


   
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Steveson will wrestle #2 seed from ASU, who just won in overtime with an absolutely insane flurry. Wow.


   
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Starting to think Whalen isn't a coach players want to play for....

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frozen4champs wrote:

Starting to think Whalen isn't a coach players want to play for....

Isn't she on a one year extension? If so it's shaping up to be her last year, and quite possibly another example of great players not making great coaches.


   
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D2D wrote:

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Starting to think Whalen isn't a coach players want to play for....

Isn't she on a one year extension? If so it's shaping up to be her last year, and quite possibly another example of great players not making great coaches.

She just signed this recently.

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Lindsay Whalen receives contract extension with Gophers into 2025 season. Lindsay Whalen signed the highest ranked recruiting class ever at the University of Minnesota on Wednesday. Four local players, all in the top-100 nationally, signed to make the 2022 class top-10 in the country at No. 7.

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I don't put a whole lot of stock in players transferring in/out in college basketball these days. There are dozens of reasons players transfer. Maybe Scalia wants to go play for a team that is more likely to win a national championship. Maybe she didn't like Whalen (though she stuck around playing for her for 3 years, it's not like it was a 1 and done). Maybe she wanted to play in a different system that may translate better to the WNBA.


   
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Beauner wrote:

I don't put a whole lot of stock in players transferring in/out in college basketball these days. There are dozens of reasons players transfer. Maybe Scalia wants to go play for a team that is more likely to win a national championship. Maybe she didn't like Whalen (though she stuck around playing for her for 3 years, it's not like it was a 1 and done). Maybe she wanted to play in a different system that may translate better to the WNBA.

You may be spot on.

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I mean that may be the case, but Whalen has lost the top 6 scorers on this team. She is looking at a full Ben johnson style refurbishment of the team, except the players that are leaving are all hers, not another coaches.

If players are leaving because they want to win, they have decided they can't win at Minnesota and that's on Whalen either via recruiting or coaching. Her class next year is good, but it's now literally them. Unless Whalen can literally recruit two or three starters in the portal this winter it's another 500 team at best next season and then the rinse and repeat continues.


   
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The new transfer rules are killing college sports. How can a team get better if players constantly bail?


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

The new transfer rules are killing college sports. How can a team get better if players constantly bail?

It's hard to tell a student/athlete that they're not allowed to change schools because RULES. But, you're not wrong with the impact it's having on teams.

B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

The new transfer rules are killing college sports. How can a team get better if players constantly bail?

Not only do coaches have to recruit the new freshman class, they have to caudle the rest of team. Can't show to much favoritism cause it might upset someone and they can just bail with no repercussions.

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Commitments mean nothing and it's infuriating in some ways. Coaches have had this forever, and now it's players across sports. No need to see anything through, just leave.


   
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As a fan of a team that should benefit from it, I have no problem with the transfer rules. I'll be glad when the 5 year players things is all cleared up though cuz it's a mess to keep track of.


   
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Gopherguy05 wrote:

I mean that may be the case, but Whalen has lost the top 6 scorers on this team. She is looking at a full Ben johnson style refurbishment of the team, except the players that are leaving are all hers, not another coaches.

If players are leaving because they want to win, they have decided they can't win at Minnesota and that's on Whalen either via recruiting or coaching. Her class next year is good, but it's now literally them. Unless Whalen can literally recruit two or three starters in the portal this winter it's another 500 team at best next season and then the rinse and repeat continues.

As of like 10 days ago there were 400+ women in the transfer portal for college basketball. I'd imagine that number has grown significantly as teams get knocked out of postseason play.

While it's seen as a positive for the players, it's certainly tough to be psyched about it as a fan and I'd imagine it's unpleasant for coaches as well.


   
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Yikes that sucks to lose Scalia!


   
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Dumb question - is there a "Covid" rule currently at play that is "encouraging" transfers that might not otherwise happen once this rule expires?


   
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Slap Shot wrote:

Dumb question - is there a "Covid" rule currently at play that is "encouraging" transfers that might not otherwise happen once this rule expires?

I believe next year the number of scholarships they'd back to pre COVID numbers. That might Force transfers as coaches have to make decisions on who gets money. That's all I've heard about though.


   
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I think transfers of high end players will still be a thing going forward, especially to fill gaps left by early departures.


   
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[media] https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1509901967761543171 [/media]

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You really have to wonder. This is getting bad. It doesn’t matter how good the recruits are when you don’t have a full team or upper class men.

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The trend is troubling.

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When it happened on the men’s side, it was with a coaching change. This is crazy.


   
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If it was just the gophers it would make me wonder but it looks like the entire sport of womens BB is in upheaval. I don’t know the reason but wonder if it’s advice from agents/consultants? Scholarship money is not a reason, once they commit the player will receive it unless they are cut.

Now it’s the players who can bale out if the coach isn’t winning games. Seems like a reversal of responsibility.


   
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Gopher Baseball is currently on Big Network if you aren't glued to the Master's. Currently tied in the 7th


   
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They won 4-3 on a passed ball.


   
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2 out triple followed by a passed ball scored the winner. The lefty they brought in to close it was filthy. Lots of swinging strikes


   
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Speaking of college baseball I need to get to a Mississippi State game. They have the Left Field Lounge (which is a total party atmosphere) and

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The Gopher baseball team will seek to finally hit double digits in wins tomorrow against St. Thomas.

If they can't do it tomorrow, maybe they can do it next Tuesday instead.

They are bad this year. Again.

They have 2 wins against a Power 5 team this year. One was the game over the weekend against Maryland where the GW run scored on a passed ball, and one back on March 5th against Kansas. 3 of their other 7 wins came against Western Illinois, and another against St. Thomas.

Opponents are hitting .278 with an OPS of .811. Their staff has an ERA of 6.52 with a WHIP of 1.70.

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[media] https://twitter.com/kare11/status/1513824775629680646 [/media]

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Wow - finally some good news for the WBB program.


   
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I hope this new awesome class decides to stay and stay together.


   
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Baseball had to push a couple late runs across to escape against St Thomas 2-1 today.


   
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Not sure where to put this but Ronald Acuna is doing a rehab stint in the minors. He is facing former Gopher Max Meyer on the hill.


   
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