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What are you guys talking about?


   
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Posted by: @younggopherdiehard2

https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1849957122764833263?s=46

this would be a quick turn of events. Notice RD #3. 

 

The line chart shows exactly what I am talking about why everyone should be concerned about this recruiting "blip".

Look at the geographical distribution of these players:

Pennsylvania, California, Texas...  that is the top line forwards

Illinois, Oregon, North Carolina, Iowa

Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.  

 

 


   
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What are you guys talking about?

logan Lutner not showing as committed to Denver on the line chart. He committed there in early August. 

 


   
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Ahh I see, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining that for me.


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

Posted by: @younggopherdiehard2

https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1849957122764833263?s=46

this would be a quick turn of events. Notice RD #3. 

..to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.  

No it's not  

 


   
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What age group is he in?


   
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Peewees lol


   
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What age group is he in?

Did a little digging, he’s on Minnetonka’s peewee AA team this season.

 


   
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lol?

Anyway kids seem bigger at that age than I remember.  


   
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Holy cats the turn in the corner was very his pops like....

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lol?

Anyway kids seem bigger at that age than I remember.  

Sorry just loling for talking about peewees in the potential recruits thread. Definitely a great player to keep an eye on in a few years.

 


   
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I debated with myself about putting that here or the “Former Players” thread. Just thought some would find it interesting.


   
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FWIW Lutner still with no Denver logo...

https://twitter.com/USAHockeyNTDP/status/1850312703656513994?t=u_tBBGogZLW9noyAAnZZVA&s=19


   
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I’m predicting he is a gopher when all is said and done 


   
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Also listed at 6’1… the website roster still shows him committed to Denver, and not 6’1


   
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Maybe as he continues to get taller it has caused him to take a new look at things after all as you get taller your view of things changes. 😉 


   
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That's odd, I really would've expected them to fix that missing logo by the next game. 


   
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Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.

It really isn't, especially off the Mason Moe commitment a couple of days ago. Berchild and Lutner are definite misses but outside of those two, who are concerning misses that we likely had a serious shot at? It is still early but this U17 team is looking pretty average so far, so maybe the Gopher staff decided to not recruit this team as heavily as past seasons. 

I attended their first game against the MN Elite League All-Stars and didn't come away all that impressed with their entire defensive corps minus Schairer and Martyniuk (Lutner didn't play). For the uncommitted players, I really liked Jamie Glance's game but I don't foresee a kid from New Hampshire coming here. Similar story for Dayne Beuker who might end up being the best forward on the team. Sammy Nelson would obviously be a welcome addition, but we know where he will likely end up. Maybe there's still a shot at Wyatt Cullen who I thought played well and who must've grown 4-5 inches from when I last saw him play bantams last spring.   

 


   
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Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.

It really isn't, especially off the Mason Moe commitment a couple of days ago. Berchild and Lutner are definite misses but outside of those two, who are concerning misses that we likely had a serious shot at? It is still early but this U17 team is looking pretty average so far, so maybe the Gopher staff decided to not recruit this team as heavily as past seasons. 

I attended their first game against the MN Elite League All-Stars and didn't come away all that impressed with their entire defensive corps minus Schairer and Martyniuk (Lutner didn't play). For the uncommitted players, I really liked Jamie Glance's game but I don't foresee a kid from New Hampshire coming here. Similar story for Dayne Beuker who might end up being the best forward on the team. Sammy Nelson would obviously be a welcome addition, but we know where he will likely end up. Maybe there's still a shot at Wyatt Cullen who I thought played well and who must've grown 4-5 inches from when I last saw him play bantams last spring.   

 

 

Believing that striking out on the top talent in the class, including all of the Minnesotans is a major mistake.   

 


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

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Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.

It really isn't, especially off the Mason Moe commitment a couple of days ago. Berchild and Lutner are definite misses but outside of those two, who are concerning misses that we likely had a serious shot at? It is still early but this U17 team is looking pretty average so far, so maybe the Gopher staff decided to not recruit this team as heavily as past seasons. 

I attended their first game against the MN Elite League All-Stars and didn't come away all that impressed with their entire defensive corps minus Schairer and Martyniuk (Lutner didn't play). For the uncommitted players, I really liked Jamie Glance's game but I don't foresee a kid from New Hampshire coming here. Similar story for Dayne Beuker who might end up being the best forward on the team. Sammy Nelson would obviously be a welcome addition, but we know where he will likely end up. Maybe there's still a shot at Wyatt Cullen who I thought played well and who must've grown 4-5 inches from when I last saw him play bantams last spring.   

 

 

Believing that striking out on the top talent in the class, including all of the Minnesotans is a major mistake.   

 

All of the top Minnesotans? Didn’t Moe commit like 4 days ago? Also it’s easy to forget that Kwaz is part of this group too (accelerated to commit early).

Betchild and Lutner were major whiffs, no sugarcoating that. But until this starts becoming a major trend Motzko has given us no reason for panic.

 


   
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Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.

It really isn't, especially off the Mason Moe commitment a couple of days ago. Berchild and Lutner are definite misses but outside of those two, who are concerning misses that we likely had a serious shot at? It is still early but this U17 team is looking pretty average so far, so maybe the Gopher staff decided to not recruit this team as heavily as past seasons. 

I attended their first game against the MN Elite League All-Stars and didn't come away all that impressed with their entire defensive corps minus Schairer and Martyniuk (Lutner didn't play). For the uncommitted players, I really liked Jamie Glance's game but I don't foresee a kid from New Hampshire coming here. Similar story for Dayne Beuker who might end up being the best forward on the team. Sammy Nelson would obviously be a welcome addition, but we know where he will likely end up. Maybe there's still a shot at Wyatt Cullen who I thought played well and who must've grown 4-5 inches from when I last saw him play bantams last spring. 

 Believing that striking out on the top talent in the class, including all of the Minnesotans is a major mistake.

All of the top Minnesotans? Didn’t Moe commit like 4 days ago? Also it’s easy to forget that Kwaz is part of this group too (accelerated to commit early).

Betchild and Lutner were major whiffs, no sugarcoating that. But until this starts becoming a major trend Motzko has given us no reason for panic.

Exactly. Trust me, I'd love if the top three Minnesotans of each class committed to the Gophers without second thought on the day they become eligible, but that just isn't realistic. And until the on ice product starts to decline, it is hard to be too concerned about or that critical of the coaching staff and their recruiting. 

There was a similar sentiment a year ago and Coach Motzko was asked in a press conference about the state of our incoming recruiting classes and he said that he wasn't nervous about it and that we were in good hands. Then, within the next 40 or so days post that press conference the following six commits occurred:

  • LJ Mooney - committed on 10/15/23
  • Hayden Reid - committed on 10/15/23
  • Jacob Rombach - committed on 10/19/23
  • Erik Pahlsson - committed on 10/19/23
  • Leo Gruba - committed on 10/31/23
  • August Falloon - committed on 11/7/23

 

I understand these six commits cover multiple classes and that mlhouse is voicing concern about missing out on the top talent for this current recruiting class, but you have to give the coaching staff some credit about how they've recruited so far and believe that even with missing out on a couple of these top MN kids, there is definitely a plan in place.

 


   
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Are these Bobby Dustin's, Adam Hauser's and Reggie Berg's kids? I assume that the Cullen and Podein kids are the sons of the famous fathers.

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Yes to all except Berg. I’m unsure if that is a relation or not. There was another Berg that played for BSM a couple years ago too. 

edit: Devin Berg is not related to Reggie Berg from what I can tell. His son is Wes Berg from BSM and now with the St. Cloud Norsemen. 


   
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Posted by: @dreamloss

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Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.

It really isn't, especially off the Mason Moe commitment a couple of days ago. Berchild and Lutner are definite misses but outside of those two, who are concerning misses that we likely had a serious shot at? It is still early but this U17 team is looking pretty average so far, so maybe the Gopher staff decided to not recruit this team as heavily as past seasons. 

I attended their first game against the MN Elite League All-Stars and didn't come away all that impressed with their entire defensive corps minus Schairer and Martyniuk (Lutner didn't play). For the uncommitted players, I really liked Jamie Glance's game but I don't foresee a kid from New Hampshire coming here. Similar story for Dayne Beuker who might end up being the best forward on the team. Sammy Nelson would obviously be a welcome addition, but we know where he will likely end up. Maybe there's still a shot at Wyatt Cullen who I thought played well and who must've grown 4-5 inches from when I last saw him play bantams last spring. 

 Believing that striking out on the top talent in the class, including all of the Minnesotans is a major mistake.

All of the top Minnesotans? Didn’t Moe commit like 4 days ago? Also it’s easy to forget that Kwaz is part of this group too (accelerated to commit early).

Betchild and Lutner were major whiffs, no sugarcoating that. But until this starts becoming a major trend Motzko has given us no reason for panic.

Exactly. Trust me, I'd love if the top three Minnesotans of each class committed to the Gophers without second thought on the day they become eligible, but that just isn't realistic. And until the on ice product starts to decline, it is hard to be too concerned about or that critical of the coaching staff and their recruiting. 

There was a similar sentiment a year ago and Coach Motzko was asked in a press conference about the state of our incoming recruiting classes and he said that he wasn't nervous about it and that we were in good hands. Then, within the next 40 or so days post that press conference the following six commits occurred:

  • LJ Mooney - committed on 10/15/23
  • Hayden Reid - committed on 10/15/23
  • Jacob Rombach - committed on 10/19/23
  • Erik Pahlsson - committed on 10/19/23
  • Leo Gruba - committed on 10/31/23
  • August Falloon - committed on 11/7/23

 

I understand these six commits cover multiple classes and that mlhouse is voicing concern about missing out on the top talent for this current recruiting class, but you have to give the coaching staff some credit about how they've recruited so far and believe that even with missing out on a couple of these top MN kids, there is definitely a plan in place.

 

1.  Yes, multiple classes and several of them such as Gruba originally committed elsewhere.  

2.   Addressing a point in another comment, I get one year isn't a trend.  But every trend has its starting point.  Believe me, I will be glad if this is a blip but then it is a blip that occured in probably one of the best Minnesotan recruiting classes in a while.

3.   If you look at that list of 6 players above, half of them are non-Minnesotans (Mooney, Reid, Pahlsson).  Now I am not a total believer in keeping the roster 100% pure home talent, I also believe that a huge part of the brand value of MInnesota hockey is that the bulk of the roster is Minnesota developed and I think some of the specialness of the program will be lost if we have to rely more and more on out of state and even Canadien recruiting to remain competitive. 

4.  I get it is early, but if you look at the recruiting classes of 2025 and 2026 do you see any real elite players who will replace the Snuggeruds, Matthew Wood, and Oliver Moore along with D Sam Rinzel, all NHL first rounders who most likely are playing their last season in 2024?   Some of them might develop and we have guys on the roster now like Gruba, Hendrickson, and Ziemer who can step up somewhat into those roles?

5.  Again, some of these guys might develop over 3-4 years, but Hendrickson is a 4th round draft pick.  Ziemer is a 3rd.  Gruba wasn't drafted.  Of the committed recruits, Javon Moore is a 3rd round player.  Or the draft eligible players, Mooney, Moe and Rombach are  have B ratings from NHL Central Scouting.  The rest are C and W rated.  Good talent, sure..  Talent that can develop as 3rd and 4th year players.  Yep.  A national contending team?  Probably not.  

 

 


   
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Let's focus on this year and worry about the future when it comes. Bob is building a team and he has done a great job since he has been here. People who only judge a team by 5 star recruits need to calm down.

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Posted by: @mlhouse

Posted by: @dreamloss

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Posted by: @dreamloss

Posted by: @mlhouse

Notre Dame has three players on this roster.  DU three.  UMD 2.  Michigan St 2.  I get that there are still a bunch of Minnesotans on this roster, 8 total to be exact along with one from Iowa and another from Wisconsin, to get completely shut out on recruiting these players is a concern.

It really isn't, especially off the Mason Moe commitment a couple of days ago. Berchild and Lutner are definite misses but outside of those two, who are concerning misses that we likely had a serious shot at? It is still early but this U17 team is looking pretty average so far, so maybe the Gopher staff decided to not recruit this team as heavily as past seasons. 

I attended their first game against the MN Elite League All-Stars and didn't come away all that impressed with their entire defensive corps minus Schairer and Martyniuk (Lutner didn't play). For the uncommitted players, I really liked Jamie Glance's game but I don't foresee a kid from New Hampshire coming here. Similar story for Dayne Beuker who might end up being the best forward on the team. Sammy Nelson would obviously be a welcome addition, but we know where he will likely end up. Maybe there's still a shot at Wyatt Cullen who I thought played well and who must've grown 4-5 inches from when I last saw him play bantams last spring. 

 Believing that striking out on the top talent in the class, including all of the Minnesotans is a major mistake.

All of the top Minnesotans? Didn’t Moe commit like 4 days ago? Also it’s easy to forget that Kwaz is part of this group too (accelerated to commit early).

Betchild and Lutner were major whiffs, no sugarcoating that. But until this starts becoming a major trend Motzko has given us no reason for panic.

Exactly. Trust me, I'd love if the top three Minnesotans of each class committed to the Gophers without second thought on the day they become eligible, but that just isn't realistic. And until the on ice product starts to decline, it is hard to be too concerned about or that critical of the coaching staff and their recruiting. 

There was a similar sentiment a year ago and Coach Motzko was asked in a press conference about the state of our incoming recruiting classes and he said that he wasn't nervous about it and that we were in good hands. Then, within the next 40 or so days post that press conference the following six commits occurred:

  • LJ Mooney - committed on 10/15/23
  • Hayden Reid - committed on 10/15/23
  • Jacob Rombach - committed on 10/19/23
  • Erik Pahlsson - committed on 10/19/23
  • Leo Gruba - committed on 10/31/23
  • August Falloon - committed on 11/7/23

 

I understand these six commits cover multiple classes and that mlhouse is voicing concern about missing out on the top talent for this current recruiting class, but you have to give the coaching staff some credit about how they've recruited so far and believe that even with missing out on a couple of these top MN kids, there is definitely a plan in place.

 

1.  Yes, multiple classes and several of them such as Gruba originally committed elsewhere.  

2.   Addressing a point in another comment, I get one year isn't a trend.  But every trend has its starting point.  Believe me, I will be glad if this is a blip but then it is a blip that occured in probably one of the best Minnesotan recruiting classes in a while.

3.   If you look at that list of 6 players above, half of them are non-Minnesotans (Mooney, Reid, Pahlsson).  Now I am not a total believer in keeping the roster 100% pure home talent, I also believe that a huge part of the brand value of MInnesota hockey is that the bulk of the roster is Minnesota developed and I think some of the specialness of the program will be lost if we have to rely more and more on out of state and even Canadien recruiting to remain competitive. 

4.  I get it is early, but if you look at the recruiting classes of 2025 and 2026 do you see any real elite players who will replace the Snuggeruds, Matthew Wood, and Oliver Moore along with D Sam Rinzel, all NHL first rounders who most likely are playing their last season in 2024?   Some of them might develop and we have guys on the roster now like Gruba, Hendrickson, and Ziemer who can step up somewhat into those roles?

5.  Again, some of these guys might develop over 3-4 years, but Hendrickson is a 4th round draft pick.  Ziemer is a 3rd.  Gruba wasn't drafted.  Of the committed recruits, Javon Moore is a 3rd round player.  Or the draft eligible players, Mooney, Moe and Rombach are  have B ratings from NHL Central Scouting.  The rest are C and W rated.  Good talent, sure..  Talent that can develop as 3rd and 4th year players.  Yep.  A national contending team?  Probably not.  

 

 

To address bullet point #4 and part of 5, Mooney is that guy. He’s only “B” rated cause he’s 5’7 and that scares NHL scouts. Make no mistake he’s a first round talent.

 


   
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Mooney was a huge get. Selfishly, you almost want him to avoid a growth spurt to squeeze out an extra year or two on campus. Noah Davidson is still on the board and would he a huge addition.


   
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Didn't we hear grumblings about a not too-distant class?  And look at what this team looks like at the moment.


   
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Since 1979 (45 years) the Gophers have won 2 national championships and Thomas Vanek/Grant Potulny were a big reason why.

I realize people are going to focus on getting top recruits from Minnesota but quite frankly it doesn't matter where our top recruits come from we will always have a ton of players on the team from Minnesota. I like that coach is more open to bringing in recruits from outside Minnesota. Why limit yourself? These non Minnesota players are having a big impact on the success of the team over the past few years.

Maybe we would have won more championships since 1979 if we would have been more open to non Minnesota recruits. 


   
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National Championships are not decided by who has the most 1st rounders. Michigan has won only two National Championships in the last 60 years and none in the last 25 years. College potential/success and pro potential/success are two different things. Coaches' job is to create the best college team rather then have a group of players who have the most pro potential.

LJ Mooney is a perfect explain of this as @maroon_and_gold pointed out.

 


   
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I find the point about how are we going replace Wood interesting since 6 months ago we didn't even know he would be on the team. In the years to come there will be other examples of portal players coming in and having an immediate impact like Wood and Souliere are doing this season. Coach has clearly warmed up to different ways of bringing in players. Coach is continuing to show that he is good at filling what ever holes we have each year as players leave early for the pros.


   
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I love 5 star recruits as much as anybody. But some of their value is potential, not where they are now developmentally. Bob said he wanted the team to get older when he when took the job, and he's done that.

Talent helps but look back to last two teams to beat the Gophers for the natty -  Union had Gostisbehere  who absolutely dominated the tournament but was a 3rd(?) round pick and what else? The team that starts with Q (it still hurts) had what 3 players drafted, none in the first couple of rounds.

Now, understanding Minnesota should be getting players on par with other blue bloods, its worth noting that there is another way to do it.


   
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I love 5 star recruits as much as anybody. But some of their value is potential, not where they are now developmentally. Bob said he wanted the team to get older when he when took the job, and he's done that.

Talent helps but look back to last two teams to beat the Gophers for the natty -  Union had Gostisbehere  who absolutely dominated the tournament but was a 3rd(?) round pick and what else? The team that starts with Q (it still hurts) had what 3 players drafted, none in the first couple of rounds.

Now, understanding Minnesota should be getting players on par with other blue bloods, its worth noting that there is another way to do it.

Union and Gothespiere is the example I use for why it is so valuable to have a few of those guys who can take over a game. You tend to have a higher chance of having a few dominant players like that if you have four or five first rounders recruited rather than counting on a third rounder to turn into one.  There are plenty of examples around the nation of first-rounder who are making a difference on a regular basis for their teams. Having a mix of ages is obviously good and I think that is where Bob is always looking.  But there is some comfort as a fan knowing you have a few guys committed who have a higher percent chance of turning into a game-changer in their first or second year. And yes, there are plenty of examples of stacked teams of draft picks losing in the tourney to older teams, enough to say there is probably something to age. But we are also talking about a one and done with a sport where the game can turn on one bounce.  Its not like those teams stacked with young stud players were always clearly outplayed in all their losses.

And in some of those years prior to the rule that set a minimum age for commitments, there were a lot of misses on recruiting by bluebloods because kids were committing earlier and the Unions were picking up the late developers from Juniors. That seems like a big reason there seemed to be so much parity in the NCAA tourney. Now with later commitments, it is less likely a 5 star guy will be a bust.

I am not going to say things are dire either based on a couple misses.  With all the changes with portal, NIL and now CHA who knows how teams will be built in a few years.  Bob seems to be rolling with it so far.  But on the other hand, being a Gopher fan, don't you just feel like every top kid should just commit to MN and whoever is still at the top when it is time for college gets in and the rest accept they can then just find another school? That's the way it should work in my mind.  Plus throw in a few superstars from elsewhere once in awhile. Wink  

 


   
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National Championships are not decided by who has the most 1st rounders. Michigan has won only two National Championships in the last 60 years and none in the last 25 years. College potential/success and pro potential/success are two different things. Coaches' job is to create the best college team rather then have a group of players who have the most pro potential.

Correct.

Ultimately, they have to care about the entirety of the team. Not just top end but how it all fits together. Chemistry (which is an often an overlooked aspect of how coaches think about a recruit), leadership, work ethic, and talent... and the coaches doing their part to pull it together.

I have always said one of the toughest things a head coach at the U faces is not falling in love (too much) with the "all star team" approach to building a team. It is easy for a coach to just grab as much skill as possible (because he can) versus trying to grab the right blend. A coach has to be cognizant that going for the maximum talent grab isn't necessarily the right way (cue the Herbie reference).

Been around way too long and followed recruiting way too closely over the past 3+ decades to worry about missing on a few kids in one class who may (or may not) be highly successful in college. It's not the first time we've missed a few in a class over that time.

 


   
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So much for the Logan Lutner speculation

https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1852470678504775835?s=46


   
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John Stout no longer a Bulldog commit! We should be all over him.


   
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Posted by: @gopher-fan-26

So much for the Logan Lutner speculation

https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1852470678504775835?s=46

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I love 5 star recruits as much as anybody. But some of their value is potential, not where they are now developmentally. Bob said he wanted the team to get older when he when took the job, and he's done that.

Talent helps but look back to last two teams to beat the Gophers for the natty -  Union had Gostisbehere  who absolutely dominated the tournament but was a 3rd(?) round pick and what else? The team that starts with Q (it still hurts) had what 3 players drafted, none in the first couple of rounds.

Now, understanding Minnesota should be getting players on par with other blue bloods, its worth noting that there is another way to do it.

 

1.   Yeah, nobody wants to recruit the 5-star guys!!!!   Hilarious.  We should have just said to Logan Cooley, no thanks we can find a bunch of grinders that will be better than you.  

2.   And, you may not realize it but bringing up Union and the Bobcats reinforces my point.  I am not opposed to recruiting outside players to Minnesota, but do we really want a team like Quinnipiac dominated by 32 year old Canadiens in their 14th year of college eligibility?  I think I would lose the vast majority of my interests in this program if it developed into that, even if it was a nationally competitive team.  

What gets you to the Frozen Four is high end hockey talent, the 5-star recruits.  YOu can blast Michigan all you want, but they made it to the Frozen Four three consecutive seasons.   There may be times when a player develops beyond what you expect but those are rare occasions.   And there are a subset of players that because of various issues, mainly size, are much better college hockey players than what their pro potential is, Kyle Rau is an example of this.   

Developing the mulityear players is still important.   You need guys like Brent Gates and Aaron Huglen to contribute on your team so you can make the national tournament.  But, at that level, depth becomes much less important (and I think the Gophers have consistently overused their depth in these playoff games to their detriment).  You don't play 4 lines and all 7 defensemen in the national tournament.  You play your top two lines and top 4 defensemen, and occasionally send out your 3rd line and 5th-6th defensemen.  

 


   
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Coach has and continues to show the ability to develop a team with a GREAT balance of players.

 


   
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Any interest in Landen Gunderson? Strong production so far in final USHL season. I haven’t seen any of his games,  no longer committed to Western.


   
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Any interest in Landen Gunderson? Strong production so far in final USHL season. I haven’t seen any of his games,  no longer committed to Western.

 

I would think so, didn't realize he had decommitted but he'd be a nice add. 

 


   
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Noah Davidson off the board.  BC commit.


   
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@goldy77 dang was hoping for this one. Looks like at the moment if denver or BC are in their final options count us out...


   
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Noah Davidson off the board.  BC commit.

 

#@$&!  Come on!  Seriously?

 


   
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Well, sadness of not getting Davidson aside...

 

The U17's World Challenge is going on up in Sarnia, ON.  The US had a really good result in their warm up game with Canada White, lost in a shootout but lead most of the game.  I think they should do very well against kids their own age vs getting beat on by kids 2-3 yrs older than them in the USHL.  The goalies (Carrithers / Smith) played well the previous wknd vs Dubuque (didn't get much offensive support) and played well vs Canada (I'll excuse the 3 goals in second half as they split the game and coming in cold sux for a goalie).  The D are all finally healthy now and their forwards don't have to worry about guys 50 lbs heavier than them smushing them into the boards.

Watched the Elite League AS Team vs Shattuck yesterday, good game with Elite League winning in OT.  I think the Gophs should take a look at Wyatt Cullen's older brother Brooks who will be a Sr at Moorhead.  Good size (6'), skates well, good hands and very high hockey IQ.  Get the older Cullen and maybe it helps get his two younger brothers to campus as well?  I also liked the Ayers-Assad kid from Holy Angels, tough as nails and all around good player.  Mason Minor also made his presence known, really like his game.  Did not know a lot about the Solomon kid coming into the season but he seems to be the real deal, he's a scorer and maybe there is still time to wrestle him away from Wisconsin?  The Hauser kid's stock is also rising, late 07 and is a Jr this year.


   
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Posted by: @westsidescout

Well, sadness of not getting Davidson aside...

 

The U17's World Challenge is going on up in Sarnia, ON.  The US had a really good result in their warm up game with Canada White, lost in a shootout but lead most of the game.  I think they should do very well against kids their own age vs getting beat on by kids 2-3 yrs older than them in the USHL.  The goalies (Carrithers / Smith) played well the previous wknd vs Dubuque (didn't get much offensive support) and played well vs Canada (I'll excuse the 3 goals in second half as they split the game and coming in cold sux for a goalie).  The D are all finally healthy now and their forwards don't have to worry about guys 50 lbs heavier than them smushing them into the boards.

Watched the Elite League AS Team vs Shattuck yesterday, good game with Elite League winning in OT.  I think the Gophs should take a look at his older brother Brooks who will be a Sr at Moorhead.  Good size (6'), skates well, good hands and very high hockey IQ.  Get the older Cullen and maybe it helps get his two younger brothers to campus as well?  I also liked the Ayers-Assad kid from Holy Angels, tough as nails and all around good player.  Mason Minor also made his presence known, really like his game.  Did not know a lot about the Solomon kid coming into the season but he seems to be the real deal, he's a scorer and maybe there is still time to wrestle him away from Wisconsin?  The Hauser kid's stock is also rising, late 07 and is a Jr this year.

someone on twitter claimed that we had a Moorhead player on campus for a visit. If true, I think realistically it could only have been either Brooks Cullen or Brandon Mickelson. 

 


   
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A few decommitments have started to pop up on USHL rosters lately.

These are the Minnesotans I’ve noticed and some that have already been shared:

Tanner Bruender - formerly NMU

John Stout - formerly UMD

Sam Scheetz - formerly Vermont

Jayden Veney - formerly Union

Landen Gunderson - formerly WMU

I’m curious what’s the story behind Stout. His numbers don’t seem to warrant UMD pulling the offer, so maybe he drove this. I always liked his decision making, but foot speed wasn’t the best. I thought he looked a lot like Koster on the ice but a little slower. Seems to be adjusting to the USHL just fine. 


   
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Posted by: @westsidescout

Well, sadness of not getting Davidson aside...

 

The U17's World Challenge is going on up in Sarnia, ON.  The US had a really good result in their warm up game with Canada White, lost in a shootout but lead most of the game.  I think they should do very well against kids their own age vs getting beat on by kids 2-3 yrs older than them in the USHL.  The goalies (Carrithers / Smith) played well the previous wknd vs Dubuque (didn't get much offensive support) and played well vs Canada (I'll excuse the 3 goals in second half as they split the game and coming in cold sux for a goalie).  The D are all finally healthy now and their forwards don't have to worry about guys 50 lbs heavier than them smushing them into the boards.

Watched the Elite League AS Team vs Shattuck yesterday, good game with Elite League winning in OT.  I think the Gophs should take a look at his older brother Brooks who will be a Sr at Moorhead.  Good size (6'), skates well, good hands and very high hockey IQ.  Get the older Cullen and maybe it helps get his two younger brothers to campus as well?  I also liked the Ayers-Assad kid from Holy Angels, tough as nails and all around good player.  Mason Minor also made his presence known, really like his game.  Did not know a lot about the Solomon kid coming into the season but he seems to be the real deal, he's a scorer and maybe there is still time to wrestle him away from Wisconsin?  The Hauser kid's stock is also rising, late 07 and is a Jr this year.

someone on twitter claimed that we had a Moorhead player on campus for a visit. If true, I think realistically it could only have been either Brooks Cullen or Brandon Mickelson. 

 

 

What about Zimmerman, he's a beast and led Moorhead in scoring last year.

 


   
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Posted by: @westsidescout

Posted by: @younggopherdiehard2

Posted by: @westsidescout

Well, sadness of not getting Davidson aside...

 

The U17's World Challenge is going on up in Sarnia, ON.  The US had a really good result in their warm up game with Canada White, lost in a shootout but lead most of the game.  I think they should do very well against kids their own age vs getting beat on by kids 2-3 yrs older than them in the USHL.  The goalies (Carrithers / Smith) played well the previous wknd vs Dubuque (didn't get much offensive support) and played well vs Canada (I'll excuse the 3 goals in second half as they split the game and coming in cold sux for a goalie).  The D are all finally healthy now and their forwards don't have to worry about guys 50 lbs heavier than them smushing them into the boards.

Watched the Elite League AS Team vs Shattuck yesterday, good game with Elite League winning in OT.  I think the Gophs should take a look at his older brother Brooks who will be a Sr at Moorhead.  Good size (6'), skates well, good hands and very high hockey IQ.  Get the older Cullen and maybe it helps get his two younger brothers to campus as well?  I also liked the Ayers-Assad kid from Holy Angels, tough as nails and all around good player.  Mason Minor also made his presence known, really like his game.  Did not know a lot about the Solomon kid coming into the season but he seems to be the real deal, he's a scorer and maybe there is still time to wrestle him away from Wisconsin?  The Hauser kid's stock is also rising, late 07 and is a Jr this year.

someone on twitter claimed that we had a Moorhead player on campus for a visit. If true, I think realistically it could only have been either Brooks Cullen or Brandon Mickelson. 

 

 

What about Zimmerman, he's a beast and led Moorhead in scoring last year.

 

I could be wrong but I don’t think Sophomores are allowed to do any sort of visit at this point. 

 


   
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