I think you mean retire, not resign. The latter tends to have a negative connotation.
I have no idea if legit, but speculating if a coach will retire or not on a fan discussion board feels like fair game to me. He’s well liked and it’s a big deal either way.
where is the ridiculous criticism?Absolutely. If someone is saying people shouldn't criticize Bob, that's just as nuts as suggesting he should be fired, or has cause to resign after this season.No coach is above criticism they all make bad choices in games. I'm sure he is questioning his choices as we speak.
FYI - This isn’t directed at you. Just a general statement building on your point.
I don’t think anyone has said Bob is beyond criticizing, so not really sure where that all came from. No coach is. Pointing out the ridiculous lengths the criticism has gone to does not mean he can’t be criticized.
The people on social media saying Bob should be fired. Was referenced earlier in this thread or the game thread. Not a lot of people. Just the usual yahoos.
I never said that type of criticism was here. I made a comment to someone that sometimes it takes coaches a time or two of making the final and losing before winning.
Someone replied to that comment saying that doesn’t mean Motzko is beyond criticizing.
My comment back was, of course it doesn’t mean he can’t be criticized, unless the criticism is absurd overreaction like he should be fired and replaced with Potulny.
Mostly the "new" trolls. The regulars are fine it seems.
I figured Knies would sign, kinda curious about the Cooley situation though. Would be great to have him back for his Sophomore season, he could work on faceoffs and put some weight\add strength to his game before hitting the NHL. We'll see soon.
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I figured Knies would sign, kinda curious about the Cooley situation though. Would be great to have him back for his Sophomore season, he could work on faceoffs and put some weight\add strength to his game before hitting the NHL. We'll see soon.
Same here. I figured Knies would leave. He stayed two years and was ready. Cooley deciding to stay would be huge.
fair enough, I thought you were talking about people on this board and I didn't really see anything over the topwhere is the ridiculous criticism?Absolutely. If someone is saying people shouldn't criticize Bob, that's just as nuts as suggesting he should be fired, or has cause to resign after this season.No coach is above criticism they all make bad choices in games. I'm sure he is questioning his choices as we speak.
FYI - This isn’t directed at you. Just a general statement building on your point.
I don’t think anyone has said Bob is beyond criticizing, so not really sure where that all came from. No coach is. Pointing out the ridiculous lengths the criticism has gone to does not mean he can’t be criticized.
The people on social media saying Bob should be fired. Was referenced earlier in this thread or the game thread. Not a lot of people. Just the usual yahoos.
I never said that type of criticism was here. I made a comment to someone that sometimes it takes coaches a time or two of making the final and losing before winning.
Someone replied to that comment saying that doesn’t mean Motzko is beyond criticizing.
My comment back was, of course it doesn’t mean he can’t be criticized, unless the criticism is absurd overreaction like he should be fired and replaced with Potulny.
Lamb and Kurth will both take massive steps with the team next year. That’s not an “I hope” statement. It WILL happen.
Lamb and Kurth will both take massive steps with the team next year. That’s not an “I hope” statement. It WILL happen.
They'll need to. Scoring may look a little light if Cooley leaves. Barring Brodzinski and Nelson taking additional years, you've got Pitlick (11) and Nevers (10) as the only other guys who scored 10 goals this year in addition to Snuggy's 21. Would love to see the 7 line explode next year as there will certainly be a void up front as well as some drop off from the D. Think Mittelstadt can fill that role to some extent, but our D put up almost 150 points this year and the goals have to come from somewhere.
Lamb and Kurth will both take massive steps with the team next year. That’s not an “I hope” statement. It WILL happen.
They'll need to. Scoring may look a little light if Cooley leaves. Barring Brodzinski and Nelson taking additional years, you've got Pitlick (11) and Nevers (10) as the only other guys who scored 10 goals this year in addition to Snuggy's 21. Would love to see the 7 line explode next year as there will certainly be a void up front as well as some drop off from the D. Think Mittelstadt can fill that role to some extent, but our D put up almost 150 points this year and the goals have to come from somewhere.
Oliver Moore will do his share and then some
Both improved throughout the year so I agree.
I just assumed Cooley would be gone, if he stays obviously that’s be cool. Getting guys like him to stay 2 years is huge because the whole theory of only getting young hotshots for a year goes straight out the window. But even if you do only get him for a year it clearly wasn’t the wrong decision.
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I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
@gopherpete Bonin21 on GopherHole cited a “well connected” poster on GPL said Bob is resigning.
Coach Motzko has built the program back. Anyone at the games this weekend realized Gopher Hockey is alive again. Saturday’s result hurts because many of us were their to feel it.
We’ll get back.
I’ll believe it when I see it, not a whole lot to discuss re that subject unless it actually happens. Thank Jupiter Eeyore is relegated to that board though ?, I didn’t mind him as much as some but I can’t handle that guy today.
People are just making sh*t up. It’s a shame I actually didn’t mind GoldyShuffle until he came in here and started saying that stuff.
@gopherpete Bonin21 on GopherHole cited a “well connected” poster on GPL said Bob is resigning.
Coach Motzko has built the program back. Anyone at the games this weekend realized Gopher Hockey is alive again. Saturday’s result hurts because many of us were their to feel it.
We’ll get back.
Is this some sort of Inception circular reference?
If he’s right and actually connected then whatever but maybe wait a day or two lol. I don’t mind bold predictions/rumors but the timing of that one is a bit rough lol. If he’s just trolling then yikes.
Lamb and Kurth will both take massive steps with the team next year. That’s not an “I hope” statement. It WILL happen.
They'll need to. Scoring may look a little light if Cooley leaves. Barring Brodzinski and Nelson taking additional years, you've got Pitlick (11) and Nevers (10) as the only other guys who scored 10 goals this year in addition to Snuggy's 21. Would love to see the 7 line explode next year as there will certainly be a void up front as well as some drop off from the D. Think Mittelstadt can fill that role to some extent, but our D put up almost 150 points this year and the goals have to come from somewhere.
Oliver Moore will do his share and then some
Hopefully. Always hard to know for absolute certain who will come in put up points until they start playing the games. Was the concern regarding Cooley/Snuggy coming in and we were more than pleasantly rewarded. Fingers crossed this one goes that way as well
Some speculation out of Buffalo.
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Boldy, Beniers and Caufield all stayed two years. I understand none of them had the freshman season that Cooley did but still…
That being said I still expect him to sign.
If he’s right and actually connected then whatever but maybe wait a day or two lol. I don’t mind bold predictions/rumors but the timing of that one is a bit rough lol. If he’s just trolling then yikes.
My stance is that even if he/she is right (and I have extreme doubts he/she is), I doubt Motzko wants this blasted all over a public message board. If Bob is contemplating retirement, let him deliberate that privately and let the world know when he’s ready.
This person’s speculation about “leadership issues” led to a retracted CHN article/tweets last offseason. Now this. I can’t help but think this is all designed with malicious intent to the program in mind.
NO good comes of airing this stuff on a fan board, even if true, and it is downright insidious and vile if it isn’t true.
Some speculation out of Buffalo.
Huglen ain’t signing
Some speculation out of Buffalo.
can't see any way they'd take Huglen, particularly given his health issues (and I can't really see Huglen jumping given his personality and wanting to be with his guys again). I would expect them to want to sign Johnson rather than give him up for a pick. Then it's a question for Johson of if that's where he wants to end up vs becoming a free agent.
Idk why there’d be any rush to sign Huglen, I feel like they’d be better off letting him develop for free and getting him at age 24 but who knows.
As for Johnson one would think becoming a UFA would be the smart move (Sabres haven’t made the playoffs since… ??? and traded away Eichel lol) but maybe there’s some incentive I don’t know about to sign there.
Idk why there’d be any rush to sign Huglen, I feel like they’d be better off letting him develop for free and getting him at age 24 but who knows.
agreed. he's a 4th rounder and though I love the edge he plays with, he hasn't exactly exploded on the stat sheet. Definitely seems like a guy you give another year to and make sure he can be healthy and see if he can be a contributor. Zero rush to get him to come into your AHL lineup when he's going to play PP and PK and high minutes here.
I will say I do like that Huglen is on Buffalo’s radar. A lot of internet scouts look at his stats and say he won’t make it but you have to watch Huglen to get who he is as a player. Huglen is really REALLY good.
Some speculation out of Buffalo.
Huglen ain’t signing
You are probably correct on Huglen, but I have seen it in a couple of places including in Buffalo News that they have decision to make on Huglen. They could potentially lose his rights if they don't sign him this off season. Johnson is a unique deal. Buffalo could choose to not sign him and get a compensatory pick instead or they could sign him. I guess we will see if they value Johnson over a new draft pick.
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@gopherpete Bonin21 on GopherHole cited a “well connected” poster on GPL said Bob is resigning.
Coach Motzko has built the program back. Anyone at the games this weekend realized Gopher Hockey is alive again. Saturday’s result hurts because many of us were their to feel it.
We’ll get back.
He’s a guy I could see taking a big next step here at some point but I agree, thus far he hasn’t been super consistent stat wise (though I realize he’s not top PP/playing with Knies etc., context is important here). He plays a solid two way game and has had some nice moments but I feel like he could become a more dominant player in the future if he stays.
@jwg My point was this is how internet nonsense becomes “fact”. Not to re-enforce a fan board rumor.
Also, resign was the word used. Then when troll poster elaborated they said retire. Very different words in the English language. Definition of troll.
Some random thoughts, it was cool to see Jaxson Nelson score yesterday. I remember him being a Lucia recruit and he took a while to develop in junior hockey because he was a man amongst boys in HS against weaker competition. People were openly speculating on his development and some takes weren’t very optimistic. There were definitely times here where he’d just be invisible for long periods of time and it seemed like maybe last year was the first time I noticed him start taking over games more regularly (until he got injured). Got to see more of that this year and it seemed like he finally developed into the player we all hoped. Having an older guy like him definitely paid off and I guess I shouldn’t be surprised he was one of the only 2 guys to score yesterday.
Was kinda cool to see Brodzinski find his niche on that line too. That guy still had some serious flaws in his game that never really got resolved but it was always fun to watch him when he had a quality shooting opportunity.
Huglen becomes a free agent if he plays next season at Minnesota. The incentive for Johnson is deciding between about $100K with Buffalo or waiting to be able to pick whatever team he wants.Idk why there’d be any rush to sign Huglen, I feel like they’d be better off letting him develop for free and getting him at age 24 but who knows.
As for Johnson one would think becoming a UFA would be the smart move (Sabres haven’t made the playoffs since… ??? and traded away Eichel lol) but maybe there’s some incentive I don’t know about to sign there.
The young guys played as well as the older guys last night.Was North Dakota significantly older than this Gopher team when they beat Q years ago? Apples and oranges but Q probably hasn’t changed their philosophy dramatically since then and North Dakota is a blue blood program that can attract high end younger talent.
The Portal was different so it is possible they had a few more vets.
And the age thing is annoying I hated that the announcers used that as an excuse for Michigan and I won't use it for us. We had plenty of veteran players we were fine.
Exhibit A: Overtime
Does everyone remember a decade ago? After the 2012-13 team lost to Yale many expected a regression as guys like Bjugstad, Haula, Schmidt and others signed NHL contracts. The 2013-14 team came in with a really solid core of players along with an excellent recruiting class and surprised everyone by being even better than the 2012-13 team.
I’m not saying next year’s team will be better I’m just saying the 2023-24 Gophers could be VERY good and surprise many even on this board.
Does everyone remember a decade ago? After the 2012-13 team lost to Yale many expected a regression as guys like Bjugstad, Haula, Schmidt and others signed NHL contracts. The 2013-14 team came in with a really solid core of players along with an excellent recruiting class and surprised everyone by being even better than the 2012-13 team.
I’m not saying next year’s team will be better I’m just saying the 2023-24 Gophers could be VERY good and surprise many even on this board.
Same with Michigan’s team this year. They lost a ton, had a good incoming class, and went back to the Frozen Four.
I mean he holds all the cards if he doesn't want to play there he can wait it out.
I mean he holds all the cards if he doesn't want to play there he can wait it out.
I'm surprised players drafted by poorly run franchises (in fact I am glancing at Mr. Cooley ?) don't stay in school longer to take advantage of this loophole.
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Happy 0.6 day!
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This is Cooley quote from the Athletic article that I posted in the Championship thread.
A decision from Cooley is expected in the next few days. “I’m still 50-50,” he said.
These are the dilemmas facing prized prospects in the NCAA every season. Stay or go? It’s the intersection of two dreams — playing for a national title with the NHL just a signature away. There are opinions from every corner, from family and friends to advisers to teams and their fan bases. One day, you’re a carefree college kid living dorm life. The next, you’re an adult, a professional, a rookie.
“We’re always talking about it,” said Cooley, who was the No. 3 draft pick in 2022. “It’s so hard not to. We all want to play in the NHL.
“There’s no point to rush. But if you feel you’re ready, you feel ready. We’re still in college, still a kid. Once you go to the NHL, it’s all business.”
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You are probably correct on Huglen, but I have seen it in a couple of places including in Buffalo News that they have decision to make on Huglen.
I've seen a couple tweets this morning that Huglen is one of the players the Gophers are waiting to hear from this offseason. He had a decent year but no where near the career here to think for a second that Buffalo would sign him. Hadn't he missed an entire season a couple back in Fargo then maybe...but just don't see it. I think as much as he was put in front of the microphone I could see him be a captain on the team next year and I hope to see that.
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Yeah as others have said it’s more the fact that Buffalo could lose his rights for nothing.
I've said a few times that this might be my favorite Gophers team of all time and the loss doesn't take away from that. Even though I was present for all of the Brooks titles I don't think I was old enough - nor did I have "access" enough - to truly soak in what those teams were like in depth. The 2002 team was probably my choice up until this year for good reason, but there's just something about this season...
For so many reasons this is a season to celebrate. A truly fun team to see every weekend. So many exciting moments. So many kids of character and talent to watch. A full arena and a student section just pouring over with excitement. It felt like the good 'ol days as cliched as it sounds. I think there's something to be said that it feels like this season brought the program back to where it belongs.
The loss sucks and stings, but I am grateful to the team, the coaches, the fans, to GPL, and for the season.
I've said a few times that this might be my favorite Gophers team of all time and the loss doesn't take away from that. Even though I was present for all of the Brooks titles I don't think I was old enough - nor did I have "access" enough - to truly soak in what those teams were like in depth. The 2002 team was probably my choice up until this year for good reason, but there's just something about this season...
For so many reasons this is a season to celebrate. A truly fun team to see every weekend. So many exciting moments. So many kids of character and talent to watch. A full arena and a student section just pouring over with excitement. It felt like the good 'ol days as cliched as it sounds. I think there's something to be said that it feels like this season brought the program back to where it belongs.
The loss sucks and stings, but I am grateful to the team, the coaches, the fans, to GPL, and for the season.
Well stated. The thing that made this season for me was watching the players truly play for each other. They played unselfishly and were truly excited for each other after goals. There didn't seem to be anyone who put themselves first. That made it really easy to get excited and wish them success. That's also why it hurts so much to see them in tears after the game.
I knew this team was special from the second they outshot Penn State at Pegula??