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Posted by: @maroon_and_gold

 

If you would have advised Jimmy Snuggerud to turn pro then you’re the one giving bad advise. 

 

 

Bullshit.  Again, while I believe that Snuggerud can improve as a hockey player, he can improve even more as a professional hockey player earning a salary and developing his NHL career, and advancing his contract years.  That doesn't even include precluding any injury risk as an amateur that could impact not only his timeline but his overall career.

 


   
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I think he was waiting to make a decision not because of free agency but because now he has the potential to avoid ever having to play at Mullet arena assuming they move after next year. If they would have approved the arena Cooley may have said screw it and signed figuring he'd end up playing there eventually anyways but at least had a new arena coming. Money is money, but I feel it makes it a tougher sell for the Coyotes now to come play for 4,600 fans just to move the next year to an unknown city when he could play in front of twice that for a good team and sign next year in the new city and avoid Arizona all together. Who knows though, I may be a little biased.

 

 

The problem is that the money is the money.  IF these are factors in Cooley's decision, then someone is giving him bad advice.

For all I want him to return, and I think there are areas he can improve, if Logan Cooley returns to the U he is making a huge mistake.  

Tim Stutzle, the 3rd overall pick in 2020 earned $10.75 million in his first three years in Ottawa on his rookie deal and then signed  8 years, $66.8 million contract that is fully guaranteed.  

It would be different if he wasn't a high draft pick that will get the maximum built in incentive bonuses.  The standard entry level contract can be insured for and players that a lower draft picks/free agents (see Jaxon Nelson) can improve their prospect "ranking" for lack of a better word, by improving during their college career.   

Logan Cooley has none of those worries and every year he delays his professional career delays his second, more lucrative contract.

Again, if people are giving him advice to stay in college they are giving him bad advice.  And I think the same goes for Jimmy Snuggerud who I would have advised to turn pro.   

 

I was just giving potential perspective on why the arena deal could be a factor in his decision other than free agency because  there has to be other factors other than money or he'd be signed spending his bonus money right now, but he isn't.

How many games did Knies play in his Gopher career without a concussion? Then gets ragdolled into the boards in his first handful of NHL games and is out and he's 6'3" 210. Cooley looks like he is 16 years old and needs to get stronger. He looked pretty invisible in that championship game playing an older structured team and if he's bringing that to the NHL he isn't going to be signing for 66.8m.

Clayton Keller's dad tweeted, then deleted, that Clayton was not going to show up for the Coyotes this fall and other players were going to follow suit after the no vote on the arena. Maybe he thought he was on a burner account, who knows, but sounds kind of toxic. There are other important factors besides money and I just disagree that it's bad advice to consider those. If I was Cooley and my agent didn't talk to me about all scenarios to consider, including ones like Mittelstadt, and just said sign because it worked out for Tim Stuetzle, I'd fire him.

As for Snuggerud, he should technically be sitting in Chaska High School right now. He's a third generation Gopher with another legitimate shot at a championship. I don't think his dad or grandfather are advising him to sign for potential minor league salary and I don't think that is bad advice either. Boldy was a higher drafted winger who didn't accelerate high school, played two years of college and still spent time in the minors and then signed 7x7m. Just because Snuggerud signs doesn't mean he's making NHL money. 

 

 

Sure, there are other factors other than money.  But the primary driver of these hockey players at this level is a professional career at teh NHL level.  The stadium issue on Arizona is a meaningless one in the long run of his career.  It woudl be like turning down a great offer at General Mills out of college because they are remodeling their cafeteria.

Lets use your example of Knies.  Matt Knies really did not get "ragdolled", but that was a very cheap hit.  That hit and concussion could have happened at any level of his hockey career.  If it would have happened in the 2022-23 season playing as an amateur in college hockey it could have impacted his entire professional hockey career.  He probably is back in MInnesota doing a redo of his sophomore year and hoping to stay healthy.  But I think that Knies was correct in playing his 2nd year because he was a 2nd round draft pick.

Cooley needs to improve.  But he can improve at the professional level making multiple seven figures.  If he has the skills to play in the NHL he has them. He can develop them with the Coyotes much more than he can at the University of Minnesota.   

Cooley and Snuggerud are both first round NHL draft picks that played well in their freshman season.  Cooley should not even consider coming back, and Snuggerud, while I am happy as a GOpher fan, should not have.  

 


   
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I think he was waiting to make a decision not because of free agency but because now he has the potential to avoid ever having to play at Mullet arena assuming they move after next year. If they would have approved the arena Cooley may have said screw it and signed figuring he'd end up playing there eventually anyways but at least had a new arena coming. Money is money, but I feel it makes it a tougher sell for the Coyotes now to come play for 4,600 fans just to move the next year to an unknown city when he could play in front of twice that for a good team and sign next year in the new city and avoid Arizona all together. Who knows though, I may be a little biased.

 

 

The problem is that the money is the money.  IF these are factors in Cooley's decision, then someone is giving him bad advice.

For all I want him to return, and I think there are areas he can improve, if Logan Cooley returns to the U he is making a huge mistake.  

Tim Stutzle, the 3rd overall pick in 2020 earned $10.75 million in his first three years in Ottawa on his rookie deal and then signed  8 years, $66.8 million contract that is fully guaranteed.  

It would be different if he wasn't a high draft pick that will get the maximum built in incentive bonuses.  The standard entry level contract can be insured for and players that a lower draft picks/free agents (see Jaxon Nelson) can improve their prospect "ranking" for lack of a better word, by improving during their college career.   

Logan Cooley has none of those worries and every year he delays his professional career delays his second, more lucrative contract.

Again, if people are giving him advice to stay in college they are giving him bad advice.  And I think the same goes for Jimmy Snuggerud who I would have advised to turn pro.   

 

What was Casey  Mittlestadt's 2nd contract worth?

 

 

Immaterial.   Casey Mittlestadt is Casey Mittlestadt and he signed a 3 year $7.5 million contract as a 23 year old after making $4.5 million on his rookie deal he signed at 19 years of age.

Turning pro as a one and done was the correct decision for Mittlestadt. 

 

And Tim Stuetzle is Tim Stuetzle. So Boldy signed for over 5 times what Mittelstadt did after two years of college and that is somehow a pro for Mittelstadt and being one and done? Just because you start making money sooner doesn’t mean you’re going to make more money in total. I like how Mittelstadt is irrelevant to Cooley being he was also a Gopher and first American taken in his draft class meanwhile Stuetzle is some random German. 

 


   
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What's the difference if Cooley develops here through April, signs with the Coyotes, and burns the first year year for the last couple weeks of the season?

Seems like the likely scenario if he comes back. He's not delaying his 2nd contract at all. Can become a better and stronger center here.

If he struggled to win faceoffs against QU, he'd struggle mightily in the middle at the next level.


   
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Soooo who's the tweet going to be about today? Bryce today and then Cooley tomorrow?


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

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I think he was waiting to make a decision not because of free agency but because now he has the potential to avoid ever having to play at Mullet arena assuming they move after next year. If they would have approved the arena Cooley may have said screw it and signed figuring he'd end up playing there eventually anyways but at least had a new arena coming. Money is money, but I feel it makes it a tougher sell for the Coyotes now to come play for 4,600 fans just to move the next year to an unknown city when he could play in front of twice that for a good team and sign next year in the new city and avoid Arizona all together. Who knows though, I may be a little biased.

 

 

The problem is that the money is the money.  IF these are factors in Cooley's decision, then someone is giving him bad advice.

For all I want him to return, and I think there are areas he can improve, if Logan Cooley returns to the U he is making a huge mistake.  

Tim Stutzle, the 3rd overall pick in 2020 earned $10.75 million in his first three years in Ottawa on his rookie deal and then signed  8 years, $66.8 million contract that is fully guaranteed.  

It would be different if he wasn't a high draft pick that will get the maximum built in incentive bonuses.  The standard entry level contract can be insured for and players that a lower draft picks/free agents (see Jaxon Nelson) can improve their prospect "ranking" for lack of a better word, by improving during their college career.   

Logan Cooley has none of those worries and every year he delays his professional career delays his second, more lucrative contract.

Again, if people are giving him advice to stay in college they are giving him bad advice.  And I think the same goes for Jimmy Snuggerud who I would have advised to turn pro.   

 

What was Casey  Mittlestadt's 2nd contract worth?

 

 

Immaterial.   Casey Mittlestadt is Casey Mittlestadt and he signed a 3 year $7.5 million contract as a 23 year old after making $4.5 million on his rookie deal he signed at 19 years of age.

Turning pro as a one and done was the correct decision for Mittlestadt. 

 

Wow you’re on a roll today. Has there ever been a situation where leaving early hasn’t been the right decision in your eyes?

 


   
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If you would have advised Jimmy Snuggerud to turn pro then you’re the one giving bad advise. 

 

 

Bullshit.  Again, while I believe that Snuggerud can improve as a hockey player, he can improve even more as a professional hockey player earning a salary and developing his NHL career, and advancing his contract years.  That doesn't even include precluding any injury risk as an amateur that could impact not only his timeline but his overall career.

 

Cant he sign and burn a year of his ELC after his sophomore season? What’s the difference as supposed to playing the whole year in the NHL/AHL (genuinely asking)

 


   




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Posted by: @gopherhockeyfan7

What's the difference if Cooley develops here through April, signs with the Coyotes, and burns the first year year for the last couple weeks of the season?

Seems like the likely scenario if he comes back. He's not delaying his 2nd contract at all. Can become a better and stronger center here.

If he struggled to win faceoffs against QU, he'd struggle mightily in the middle at the next level.

Thats what I’m wondering. I’m not seeing a difference contract-wise. 

 


   
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What's the difference if Cooley develops here through April, signs with the Coyotes, and burns the first year year for the last couple weeks of the season?

Seems like the likely scenario if he comes back. He's not delaying his 2nd contract at all. Can become a better and stronger center here.

If he struggled to win faceoffs against QU, he'd struggle mightily in the middle at the next level.

Thats what I’m wondering. I’m not seeing a difference contract-wise. 

 

not to mention that it he signed at the end of his freshman year, he would’ve been slide eligible and burned no time. 

by the logic of mlhouse, it’s sign as fast as you can no matter what to get to your 2nd contract. In reality, the move Is to position yourself to sign the largest 2nd contract you can the earliest you can. If Cooley is back, it’s because he thinks the year here with his buds better sets him up for that. And that’s not bad advice, it’s almost like everyone has a different development track and you can find and cherry pick guys on either side of the coin both ways. 

for Cooley, he’ll burn his year for his soon season either way pending when he signs (now or after the season). They’re going to play the game to develop him best and view the 700k or so as immaterial when they’re banking on him cashing contracts for 20-30 mil if he can develop correctly, just like what Boldy did and what Knies is hoping to do. 

 


   
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Posted by: @maroon_and_gold

Posted by: @gopherhockeyfan7

What's the difference if Cooley develops here through April, signs with the Coyotes, and burns the first year year for the last couple weeks of the season?

Seems like the likely scenario if he comes back. He's not delaying his 2nd contract at all. Can become a better and stronger center here.

If he struggled to win faceoffs against QU, he'd struggle mightily in the middle at the next level.

Thats what I’m wondering. I’m not seeing a difference contract-wise. 

 

i believe just his prorated contract for the differisce of the season 

 


   
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If you treat every situation as if it is the same (a money grab) when it comes to these prospects, you're not really thinking it through and you are assuming best case scenarios across the board.

History is littered with prospects (even highly drafted ones) that falter after they go pro. This is especially the case if the situation doesn't foster positive things for a young player. Careers can get derailed by bad timing and bad decisions.

A young guy signing on with a franchise that is going in a positive direction (good veteran leadership, a healthy culture, puts a player in a position to succeed, etc) is much different than signing with a dysfunctional franchise that lacks those characteristics.

I have heard some top notch coaches say they have seen plenty of cases where a player signed too soon but rarely a case where a player signed "too late".


   
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Posted by: @tbgopher

Soooo who's the tweet going to be about today? Bryce today and then Cooley tomorrow?

That would be a good ending to the week!

 


   
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Posted by: @point6

Not sure how reliable this is, but a friend texted me that Cooley, Brodz, and Closer signed new resident leases and are still on Campus. Maybe I missed it, but anyone hear this? 

That information aligns with mine -- although Cooley has been back home a bit too.

 


   




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I think he was waiting to make a decision not because of free agency but because now he has the potential to avoid ever having to play at Mullet arena assuming they move after next year. If they would have approved the arena Cooley may have said screw it and signed figuring he'd end up playing there eventually anyways but at least had a new arena coming. Money is money, but I feel it makes it a tougher sell for the Coyotes now to come play for 4,600 fans just to move the next year to an unknown city when he could play in front of twice that for a good team and sign next year in the new city and avoid Arizona all together. Who knows though, I may be a little biased.

 

 

The problem is that the money is the money.  IF these are factors in Cooley's decision, then someone is giving him bad advice.

For all I want him to return, and I think there are areas he can improve, if Logan Cooley returns to the U he is making a huge mistake.  

Tim Stutzle, the 3rd overall pick in 2020 earned $10.75 million in his first three years in Ottawa on his rookie deal and then signed  8 years, $66.8 million contract that is fully guaranteed.  

It would be different if he wasn't a high draft pick that will get the maximum built in incentive bonuses.  The standard entry level contract can be insured for and players that a lower draft picks/free agents (see Jaxon Nelson) can improve their prospect "ranking" for lack of a better word, by improving during their college career.   

Logan Cooley has none of those worries and every year he delays his professional career delays his second, more lucrative contract.

Again, if people are giving him advice to stay in college they are giving him bad advice.  And I think the same goes for Jimmy Snuggerud who I would have advised to turn pro.   

 

What was Casey  Mittlestadt's 2nd contract worth?

 

 

Immaterial.   Casey Mittlestadt is Casey Mittlestadt and he signed a 3 year $7.5 million contract as a 23 year old after making $4.5 million on his rookie deal he signed at 19 years of age.

Turning pro as a one and done was the correct decision for Mittlestadt. 

 

It is not immaterial.  It is literally the crux of your argument.  You are saying Logan and others should sign to get closer to that bigger deal on the second contract.  Casey is proof why that isn't always the case.  He got zero long term benefit from ditching early he could have signed that same deal a year later. 

Your premise is flawed.  It is based on the idea that when Logan or any top guy gets to the league they will play well enough to get big money after their rookie deal is done so jump asap and get there faster.  Problem is history shows most struggle and need time to develop.  That can lead to delays in putting up the numbers needed to warrant said huge deal.

Look if he and the franchise think he is ready he should leave.  Beyond that if he is leaving to maximize his next deal there is just as good of a chance he sets himself back.  Sorry but just arguing money is ignoring literally all context and still not close to 100% correct.

 


   
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Cooley in in Pittsburgh playing in a charity game tonight. 

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Brodzinski is obviously staying but the crickets from the team account is perplexing


   
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@gopherhockeyfan7 AGREED - Do you want a skilled player that was drafted highly at the C position to possibly slide into a later draftable wing position on a mediocre/bad NHL team... Or do you want a skilled player that learns the technical skills and two way game to play the position you drafted him to be? Lets see Cooley wear a letter, play disciplined/lead a team, and win consistently in the faceoff circle. Win the Hobey Cooley.


   
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Posted by: @hammy

If you treat every situation as if it is the same (a money grab) when it comes to these prospects, you're not really thinking it through and you are assuming best case scenarios across the board.

History is littered with prospects (even highly drafted ones) that falter after they go pro. This is especially the case if the situation doesn't foster positive things for a young player. Careers can get derailed by bad timing and bad decisions.

A young guy signing on with a franchise that is going in a positive direction (good veteran leadership, a healthy culture, puts a player in a position to succeed, etc) is much different than signing with a dysfunctional franchise that lacks those characteristics.

I have heard some top notch coaches say they have seen plenty of cases where a player signed too soon but rarely a case where a player signed "too late".

 

THe littered prospects  falter because they were not good enough players.  That is immaterial.

As is the "direction of the franchise", because that is completely out of the prospects hands. Delaying because of the franchise actually works against the player because he would be under the control of that franchise for that much longer.

Regardless, calling it a "money grab" is ridiculous.  These players are professional hockey players, not "student-athletes".   A NHL contract is their college degree.  

And, while I agree that Logan Cooley could be a better rookie player if he stayed in the NCAA, got a "letter", played better defense, played on the PK, etc he will be a better player if he goes to professional hockey.  Cooley has nothing to prove against college players and playing against lower level players another year just slows the timeline of his professional career with significant risks of injury.

This isn't the case for every player.  As I wrote above, a player like Jaxon Nelson is in a completely different situation.  He would be a fringe prospect in any organization, although he would be a free agent available to sign with the team of his choice.   Going back for his 5th season could enhance his prospect status in the NHL if he proves he can generate more offense.  I would say the same for Brodzinski and other fringe prospect level players.  A Jaxon Nelson who is a 15 - 25 - 40 offensive slash line vs. 10-15-25 slash line is a much more sought after prospect.  Cooley and Snuggerud do not have that issue.

You can have your own opinion, but Cooley will develop as a player much better in the NHL than NCAA .  Snuggerud too.  

 

 

 

 


   
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If I were Cooley, and I wanted to not play for a crappy organization like AZ, I would strongly consider playing 4 years for the Gophers, signing a UFA contract with the team of his choice and burn the first year…play one full NHL season, and…if all goes as expected, sign a huge 8 year deal that summer. That puts him 4 years out from a monster deal!  We are talking about one year for a smallish player…no big deal!

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BOOM!!

 

https://twitter.com/GopherHockey/status/1659593317087080456

he clearly got bad advice. Can’t believe it. /s

 


   
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Posted by: @davey-j

If I were Cooley, and I wanted to not play for a crappy organization like AZ, I would strongly consider playing 4 years for the Gophers, signing a UFA contract with the team of his choice and burn the first year…play one full NHL season, and…if all goes as expected, sign a huge 8 year deal that summer. That puts him 4 years out from a monster deal!  We are talking about one year for a smallish player…no big deal!

 

LOL!   That would be the stupidest advice of all.  Every college player drafted in the top 3 of the NHL draft played at most one college season after their draft year (Some players played their freshman year before their NHL draft year like Powers).  There is a reason for this. And the financial aspect of it are just part of it, although the vast majority.

Everyone brings up Casey Mittelstadt "leaving early".  Sure, but in the past 5 years Casey has earned more than $10 million playing hockey and is just 25 years old.   Some fucking failure.  

I think your posts demonstrates that much of this  thinking, yours and others,  is not from the kids best interest, but your own. I get it.  I am a fan too.  I would love for Logan Cooley to come back to the U.  And, as I have stated, there are reasons to stay but any objective advise from him would easily demonstrate that is real folly.  The injury risk alone is more than enough reason for a player drafted in Cooley's position to turn pro after a single season.  A concussion.  A knee injury.  A shoulder injury.  It is too much risk.

And, as I have stated, you can have your own "myopic" opinion, but the way you develop as an athlete is to play at increasing levels of competition.  Using your logic, Cooley should have perhaps delayed coming to the Gophers because he still had eligibility left in juniors.  But the fact is, Cooley exhausted almost all of the development he could get at that level and he has done the same at the college level.

I hope he stays.  I hope there is a reason (maybe a Minnesota girlfriend who is extremely talented) that would delay signing a $10 million professional contract.   But the girlfriends are even better once you are a millionaire.

 

 

 


   




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Posted by: @jupiter

Just an FYI...

GPL is working with Dinkytown Athletes to push Gopher hockey fans to donate to the cause. You will start seeing banner ads on GPL very shortly. (Even those that are "Golden") 

So if you plan to donate, please click one of our ads when you see them so DTA knows it is coming from GPL.

 

To go along with that, they were the ones who technically broke the Cooley news before the official U tweet.

 

They have merch for a lot of the players they already have deals with, guessing you will see Cooley and Snuggerud stuff here by next season at the latest.  

 

https://collegethread.com/collections/dinkytown-athletes

https://twitter.com/DTAthletes/status/1659592859547205632

 


   
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I sort of wish they'd waited until 5:00 to make the announcement. Now, I don't see how I'm going to be able to focus on work for the rest of the day.


   
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Posted by: @celsior

I sort of wish they'd waited until 5:00 to make the announcement. Now, I don't see how I'm going to be able to focus on work for the rest of the day.

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D looks a little weaker, forwards should be a bit better than last year, and goaltending should be just as good as last year. Another national title or bust season. 


   
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YESS!!!!!!!!! Thrilling news!!! Cooley is going to score, score, and score some more.


   
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Welcome back 9-2!  That is awesome. 

I think one of the big omissions in the conversation is there may be factors outside of the pure hockey development that come into play.  Even if going to the NHL might be better for hockey development it isn't as if no hockey development happens at the NCAA level.  Then you factor the other parts in and I think it is very reasonable for an athlete to decide to stay an extra year.  Maybe it is hanging around with buddies, maybe it is the experience of campus life that isn't going to be the same when you finish your degree post NHL, maybe it is just another year of playing the game you love for that reason alone and not for a job - those all could be very reasonable causes for a player to extend their college time.  Additionally, for a player still developing physically, the 82 game grind of an NHL season is not likely to help that along.  From that standpoint, a little "slower" hockey development might be balanced by more complete physical development.  Finally, a lot of this has been talked about in relation to maximizing future contracts.  While it is obvious that money is the driver for pro hockey, it doesn't have to mean the same to everyone.  Each athlete comes from a different situation and probably has a different view on the financial implications of becoming a professional athlete.  But for something out of the ordinary, someone like Cooley is going to make a lot of money playing hockey.  Perhaps squeezing out every potential dollar isn't the primary motivation and who is to say that is wrong. Just my thoughts, YMMV.


   
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Posted by: @jaykay3

Moore-Cooley-Snuggerud
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Ex. Strobel, Pino 

Koster-Chesley
Thomas-Rinzel
Fish-Mittelstadt
Ex. Rud 

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Wiese

D looks a little weaker, forwards should be a bit better than last year, and goaltending should be just as good as last year. Another national title or bust season. 

 

It seems Hendrickson will be in the USHL but in any event a strong and deep group of forwards.

 


   
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Posted by: @jupiter

Just an FYI...

GPL is working with Dinkytown Athletes to push Gopher hockey fans to donate to the cause. You will start seeing banner ads on GPL very shortly. (Even those that are "Golden") 

So if you plan to donate, please click one of our ads when you see them so DTA knows it is coming from GPL.

 

Hey, that's fantastic.  I see the ad, great idea and partnership!

 

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Posted by: @bluebandit24

Posted by: @jaykay3

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Thomas-Rinzel
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Ex. Rud 

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D looks a little weaker, forwards should be a bit better than last year, and goaltending should be just as good as last year. Another national title or bust season. 

 

It seems Hendrickson will be in the USHL but in any event a strong and deep group of forwards.

 

I think he should be in the USHL and I've heard that too but didn't he sign his NLI already? I haven't been able to get much clarity on that situation. 

 


   
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Posted by: @mlhouse

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If I were Cooley, and I wanted to not play for a crappy organization like AZ, I would strongly consider playing 4 years for the Gophers, signing a UFA contract with the team of his choice and burn the first year…play one full NHL season, and…if all goes as expected, sign a huge 8 year deal that summer. That puts him 4 years out from a monster deal!  We are talking about one year for a smallish player…no big deal!

 

LOL!   That would be the stupidest advice of all.  Every college player drafted in the top 3 of the NHL draft played at most one college season after their draft year (Some players played their freshman year before their NHL draft year like Powers).  There is a reason for this. And the financial aspect of it are just part of it, although the vast majority.

Everyone brings up Casey Mittelstadt "leaving early".  Sure, but in the past 5 years Casey has earned more than $10 million playing hockey and is just 25 years old.   Some fucking failure.  

I think your posts demonstrates that much of this  thinking, yours and others,  is not from the kids best interest, but your own. I get it.  I am a fan too.  I would love for Logan Cooley to come back to the U.  And, as I have stated, there are reasons to stay but any objective advise from him would easily demonstrate that is real folly.  The injury risk alone is more than enough reason for a player drafted in Cooley's position to turn pro after a single season.  A concussion.  A knee injury.  A shoulder injury.  It is too much risk.

And, as I have stated, you can have your own "myopic" opinion, but the way you develop as an athlete is to play at increasing levels of competition.  Using your logic, Cooley should have perhaps delayed coming to the Gophers because he still had eligibility left in juniors.  But the fact is, Cooley exhausted almost all of the development he could get at that level and he has done the same at the college level.

I hope he stays.  I hope there is a reason (maybe a Minnesota girlfriend who is extremely talented) that would delay signing a $10 million professional contract.   But the girlfriends are even better once you are a millionaire.

 

 

 

 

I’m making an educated guess you think you are right about everything…

 

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I see Bob’s postseason press conferences (when he returns next year) did end up being more than tongue in cheek jokes to rile up the Gopher faithful.. awesome that he’s returning!  Says a lot about the coaching staff and players we have.  Mariucci will be a blast next year. 

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Posted by: @jaykay3

Posted by: @bluebandit24

Posted by: @jaykay3

Moore-Cooley-Snuggerud
Nevers-Nelson-Brodzinski
Pitlick-Huglen-Kurth
Hendrickson-Mittelstadt-Lamb
Ex. Strobel, Pino 

Koster-Chesley
Thomas-Rinzel
Fish-Mittelstadt
Ex. Rud 

Close
Airey
Wiese

D looks a little weaker, forwards should be a bit better than last year, and goaltending should be just as good as last year. Another national title or bust season. 

 

It seems Hendrickson will be in the USHL but in any event a strong and deep group of forwards.

 

I think he should be in the USHL and I've heard that too but didn't he sign his NLI already? I haven't been able to get much clarity on that situation. 

 

Not much clarity, no. There were rumblings he was unable to accelerate; just in wait and see.

 


   




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So much for all the people saying Cooley doesn't like school so he will definitely be one & done. 

Coach tried to tell us multiple times late last season (but very few people believed him) that this was the likely outcome.

Clearly Cooley enjoys being on the team and wasn't ready yet to give that up.


   
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