As good as things looked against nodak I still didn’t want anything to do with wanting to see them again later with revenge motivation factored in. I really hope I’m wrong but the way tonight went it won’t be an issue anyway.
“Good pace, a lot of north and south, or it could be east and west, I’m not sure but either way…” Wooger
@dave122793 I really hope if we are bad next year they pull the plug on Larson.
Quote: camo coat guyAs good as things looked against nodak I still didn’t want anything to do with wanting to see them again later with revenge motivation factored in. I really hope I’m wrong but the way tonight went it won’t be an issue anyway.
I doubt we'll have to worry about that 🤣
Quote: Jankwi01@dave122793 I really hope if we are bad next year they pull the plug on Larson.
And get who
No adjustments made whatsoever from night one. Love it!
They still lose this game with LDP in but what a head scratcher not coming back with Luca
Quote: maroon and goldQuote: Jankwi01@dave122793 I really hope if we are bad next year they pull the plug on Larson.
And get who
Probably Nick Oliver since recycled St Cloud coaches is the best we can do.
Badgers came out flying and gophers couldnt do anything. Entire 1st gopjers never held it in the offensive zone. Strahl will get some blame but he had no chance, the team was on its heels, shell shocked, all of it. They got their butts kicked.
Quote: CowgirlI want my money back.
I wasn’t there but that had to be a rough one even on the way out.
“Good pace, a lot of north and south, or it could be east and west, I’m not sure but either way…” Wooger
Quote: maroon and goldQuote: Jankwi01@dave122793 I really hope if we are bad next year they pull the plug on Larson.
And get who
Any of the guys Coyle should've at least interviewed (instead of attending the basketball tourney) the first go round.
For the record I'm not putting this on Larson yet but if the team is just as bad next year then they kinda have to do something.
Wow, that was embarrassing... Every time a Gopher player got the puck, you could see the code running line by line in their heads on a Windows 95 machine:
<receive.puck>
<move.eyes.up>
<begin.skating>
<query.1>halfway to blue line?</query.1>
if(queury.1="YES",execute.flip.pass(justpastblueline))
<begin.defense>
By the way, do I still have to go to the games on Thursdays and holidays? Or can I make some excuses now? 😉
Was this game for 3rd place at the final five? Reminded me of that year. Wanna say frazee was in net and the team did the state tourney hair dye look.
“Good pace, a lot of north and south, or it could be east and west, I’m not sure but either way…” Wooger
well just watched the game on delay as was out of the area.
what the fuck was that...
I mean they were getting outplayed somewhat, but pritchard for fucks sake you just cannot do that as a 4th liner. The complete implosion was on after that.
The scoreline looks worse than it was, but this team, when you're mentioning grit and playing smart, just cannot do thing like that against a team that will be in the top 5 at year's end. completely unacceptable penalty and he absolutely needs to be in a suit next weekend.
my big concern is this team is mentally soft and seems to break down when the shit gets tough. i haven't really seen them respond to in game adversity at all well, which when you're not the most talented, you can't have that mindset (the same as the comments from larson on getting "bored" or "frustrated" with game plans).
The guy is going to have to earn his keep with this group and if it doesn't happen this year, the pressure will be on massively for next year. i have not been pleased to see that they have not grown mentally as the year goes on, which can be your leadership group but most times is coaching.
I expected this year's D corp to be better at getting us out of our own end.
Quote: rowshkexWow, that was embarrassing... Every time a Gopher player got the puck, you could see the code running line by line in their heads on a Windows 95 machine:
<receive.puck>
<move.eyes.up>
<begin.skating>
<query.1>halfway to blue line?</query.1>
if(queury.1="YES",execute.flip.pass(justpastblueline))
<begin.defense>
This is such a perfect answer from you. 
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Quote: upnorthkidwell just watched the game on delay as was out of the area.
what the fuck was that...
I mean they were getting outplayed somewhat, but pritchard for fucks sake you just cannot do that as a 4th liner. The complete implosion was on after that.
The scoreline looks worse than it was, but this team, when you're mentioning grit and playing smart, just cannot do thing like that against a team that will be in the top 5 at year's end. completely unacceptable penalty and he absolutely needs to be in a suit next weekend.
my big concern is this team is mentally soft and seems to break down when the shit gets tough. i haven't really seen them respond to in game adversity at all well, which when you're not the most talented, you can't have that mindset (the same as the comments from larson on getting "bored" or "frustrated" with game plans).
The guy is going to have to earn his keep with this group and if it doesn't happen this year, the pressure will be on massively for next year. i have not been pleased to see that they have not grown mentally as the year goes on, which can be your leadership group but most times is coaching.
I don't think Larson will have a very long leash although they'll have to buy him out of his contract for a significant amount even after next season. I mean, it's too soon to panic yet but I would sell a kidney to get Hastings to coach here. If his team isn't at least back to the frozen four I'd be stunned.
Quote: The RubeQuote: rowshkexWow, that was embarrassing... Every time a Gopher player got the puck, you could see the code running line by line in their heads on a Windows 95 machine:
<receive.puck>
<move.eyes.up>
<begin.skating>
<query.1>halfway to blue line?</query.1>
if(queury.1="YES",execute.flip.pass(justpastblueline))
<begin.defense>
This is such a perfect answer from you.
I would have expected that from his bro.
Raphael should diagnose what’s wrong with the boys. 😬
Quote: Jankwi01
Why not? He's been pretty successful everywhere he's been. You wouldn't take him over Larson right now? Or are you saying he just wouldn't want to be here?
Quote: Jankwi01The coach at Augustana or at Western Michigan.
Be serious. We tried those two already. Both are happy where they are. Should we give Carle a call while we’re at it?
Give Dean Blais a call! 😉
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Quote: maroon and goldQuote: Jankwi01The coach at Augustana or at Western Michigan.
Be serious. We tried those two already. Both are happy where they are. Should we give Carle a call while we’re at it?
Coyle could've at least interviewed the Bentley and Dartmouth coaches among others. I guess he still could if things don't work out.
Garrett Raboin was 1000% the guy. He’s doing more with 1/5th the talent and an even smaller fraction of resources at Augustana. A good AD would have made it happen. Still going to give Larson a chance but he wasn’t anyone’s top choice. Look at the top teams in D1 college hockey right now. Outside of Michigan, the thing they have in common is a great coach. I really don’t think we are that far off in the talent department which leads me to believe coaching is a factor.
What is going on with Ziemer and Mooney? Burnevik is so slow. Wow. The forward group is incredibly underwhelming and underperforming.
Quote: upnorthkidwell just watched the game on delay as was out of the area.
what the fuck was that...
I mean they were getting outplayed somewhat, but pritchard for fucks sake you just cannot do that as a 4th liner. The complete implosion was on after that.
The scoreline looks worse than it was, but this team, when you're mentioning grit and playing smart, just cannot do thing like that against a team that will be in the top 5 at year's end. completely unacceptable penalty and he absolutely needs to be in a suit next weekend.
my big concern is this team is mentally soft and seems to break down when the shit gets tough. i haven't really seen them respond to in game adversity at all well, which when you're not the most talented, you can't have that mindset (the same as the comments from larson on getting "bored" or "frustrated" with game plans).
The guy is going to have to earn his keep with this group and if it doesn't happen this year, the pressure will be on massively for next year. i have not been pleased to see that they have not grown mentally as the year goes on, which can be your leadership group but most times is coaching.
I know its hard for some to phantom, but maybe the Badgers & Bulldogs (who blew them out 7-1 on a Friday night) simply are having peak years this season and have some top players who are better than the Gophers top players. Ziemer & Mooney are good, but not exactly Snuggy or Cooley level. While I wouldn’t call this a rebuilding year for the Gophers, it’s not simply a reloading year either. A little patience wud be advised. And a loss is a loss, whether losing in OT or getting blown out. Hopefully they get well vs Alaska & that carries over to the Mankato series
Quote: bearpaw28Quote: upnorthkidwell just watched the game on delay as was out of the area.
what the fuck was that...
I mean they were getting outplayed somewhat, but pritchard for fucks sake you just cannot do that as a 4th liner. The complete implosion was on after that.
The scoreline looks worse than it was, but this team, when you're mentioning grit and playing smart, just cannot do thing like that against a team that will be in the top 5 at year's end. completely unacceptable penalty and he absolutely needs to be in a suit next weekend.
my big concern is this team is mentally soft and seems to break down when the shit gets tough. i haven't really seen them respond to in game adversity at all well, which when you're not the most talented, you can't have that mindset (the same as the comments from larson on getting "bored" or "frustrated" with game plans).
The guy is going to have to earn his keep with this group and if it doesn't happen this year, the pressure will be on massively for next year. i have not been pleased to see that they have not grown mentally as the year goes on, which can be your leadership group but most times is coaching.
I know its hard for some to phantom, but maybe the Badgers & Bulldogs (who blew them out 7-1 on a Friday night) simply are having peak years this season and have some top players who are better than the Gophers top players. Ziemer & Mooney are good, but not exactly Snuggy or Cooley level. While I wouldn’t call this a rebuilding year for the Gophers, it’s not simply a reloading year either. A little patience wud be advised. And a loss is a loss, whether losing in OT or getting blown out. Hopefully they get well vs Alaska & that carries over to the Mankato series
They’re very good teams. The dogs also went 0-1-1 vs Augie and just played Miami to a pair of 1 goal games each direction.
some games will snowball and get away from you. I get that. However this is now the second time they’ve lost by 6 goals for a team that preaches grit and discipline. That’s more the part that worries me coupled with complete lack of scoring (on pace to score less this year than last year with the goals against dropping, but not as much as the goals for).
certainly not a give up on the year point or on Larson point, but the team has to buy in fully and stick with the gameplan and each other consistently and collectively. This is now in theory 3x we’ve either seen it not happen on the ice or Larson mention it in his presser.
@upnorthkid Very well stated. Your points hit home at this early stage. Yeah…it’s always concerning to get blown out, especially at home. But it is the 1st half of the season with a completely different coaching staff. And as an assistant coach, Larson was part of two Natty titles. And Raboin clearly didn’t think he was experienced enough to take on the high pressure reins at the U. So I suggest Gopher fans give Larson & Cullen & Laylin & Martin (in an expanded role) some rope before building the gallows. Because the other approach has mystifiably come up short for 23 years and counting. Gopher Nation needs to try something different. Hopefully that’s what Larson & the new staff finally achieve during his tenure as Head Coach. I think the 🐶 have one last shot under Sandy this year in the post season, after that it’s up to the Gophers to bring a Natty home for the State of MINNESOTA
The Gophers were fortunate to get the tie Thursday and they were exposed last night. I was encouraged after the NoDak series but the Penn State weekend was a set back. Wisconsin is just several levels better than Minnesota this year. Much more high level talent is needed. Time will tell if that happens. Enjoy this season for what it is which will not include an NCAA berth.
Is there a post game interview available for last nights game?
Hastings is well suited for WI. Unlike the Gophers, he doesn't have to worry about the Minnesota identity. He put together some good teams at a third-tier program playing in a cornfield. Now, he gets to do that at a Big 10 school with a lot more resources and a much bigger fan base. He also plays a highly structured style that wins hockey games.
With the new NCAA transfer rules, a coach doesn't really need to be a good recruiter of high school players anymore. They just cherry pick the players who develop from the low rent teams. If they mess up on a player, they cut ties. As fans, we're watching a semi-pro league. This isn't your Woog-era college hockey full of true freshmen, which in my opinion was way more fun and energetic.
Minnesota doesn't have the horses this year (again). The guys they kept aren't elite and the new players they brought in aren't either. It's an improvement over last season but not a step change. UND is better than the Gophers but got tripped up at Mariucci. They're a tournament team, but they aren't MI, MI St, or WI.
Quote: blockheadThe Gophers were fortunate to get the tie Thursday and they were exposed last night. I was encouraged after the NoDak series but the Penn State weekend was a set back. Wisconsin is just several levels better than Minnesota this year. Much more high level talent is needed. Time will tell if that happens. Enjoy this season for what it is which will not include an NCAA berth.
I think its too early to say that. In Bob's 2nd year (2019-20) we got swept and beat down 8-2 by Penn State at home, 9-3 by Nodak at home, and we still turned it around in the 2nd half.
when covid killed the postseason, we were right at #13-14 in the pairwise and heading into a very favorable semifinal matchup vs. a rusty Penn State team off their bye week as the league champs.
Quote: scsufanwhy is the Gopher assistant listening to music on his AirPods instead of coaching up the team?
It is his direct communications link to Jacob LeRoy who is up in the press box. I know this is new technology compared to how St. Cloud works, but this is how most teams communicate with their "eyes" from the press box.
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I think the changes of who the players were playing with from Thursday to Saturday were one of the many reasons for last nights game. Pat the rat kept saying the Gophers kept dropping the puck in Badger zone and kept chasing the puck😡
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Quote: camo coat guyWas this game for 3rd place at the final five? . . . and the team did the state tourney hair dye look.
that's so funny, knowing that if we had just won that game then Holy Cross never happens and maybe Wisconsin doesn't win the national title either
Quote: bearpaw28Quote: upnorthkidwell just watched the game on delay as was out of the area.
what the fuck was that...
I mean they were getting outplayed somewhat, but pritchard for fucks sake you just cannot do that as a 4th liner. The complete implosion was on after that.
The scoreline looks worse than it was, but this team, when you're mentioning grit and playing smart, just cannot do thing like that against a team that will be in the top 5 at year's end. completely unacceptable penalty and he absolutely needs to be in a suit next weekend.
my big concern is this team is mentally soft and seems to break down when the shit gets tough. i haven't really seen them respond to in game adversity at all well, which when you're not the most talented, you can't have that mindset (the same as the comments from larson on getting "bored" or "frustrated" with game plans).
The guy is going to have to earn his keep with this group and if it doesn't happen this year, the pressure will be on massively for next year. i have not been pleased to see that they have not grown mentally as the year goes on, which can be your leadership group but most times is coaching.
I know its hard for some to phantom, but maybe the Badgers & Bulldogs (who blew them out 7-1 on a Friday night) simply are having peak years this season and have some top players who are better than the Gophers top players. Ziemer & Mooney are good, but not exactly Snuggy or Cooley level. While I wouldn’t call this a rebuilding year for the Gophers, it’s not simply a reloading year either. A little patience wud be advised. And a loss is a loss, whether losing in OT or getting blown out. Hopefully they get well vs Alaska & that carries over to the Mankato series
I think your assessment of the talent is accurate but some of these guys looked significantly better a year ago. If you think Larson is sacrificing offense to bolster the defensive play then you have to wonder if that's the correct approach. I understand doing that a year ago when Gruba was on the blue line but this D core should be improved talent wise and the forward group arguably should be as well and yet they're playing it very close to the vest in terms of strategy. They play a super conservative defensive shell in the D zone and while IDK how much of this is on the coaches, the team looks like they're playing in the natty vs Q far too often throwing the puck away either because they're tired from a long D zone shift or because ????
All I can say is I hope this isn't the case a year from now when Larson has more of his guys on the roster. As far as the part about the Gophers needing to try something new, if anything they should've just stuck to their original gameplan vs Q and the 23 year drought wouldn't be a thing in the first place.
Quote: streaky gopherThe guys they kept aren't elite and the new players they brought in aren't either. It's an improvement over last season but not a step change.
I think the jury is still out on that last part. The talent level in theory is better yes but we'll see about the results, so far I'm not convinced Larson isn't doing less with more, hopefully that's not the case because that would mean we have a problem that's going to last multiple years at a minimum.
It's NOT time to call 911!!
This is going to be an OFF year.
I had to sit through that game in my own living room with a dear friend on the phone who is learning all about hockey.
It was NOT fun. Sheesh! Grab a hold of yourselves. I think the COACH has a lot of teaching to do.
And I hope he starts TODAY!!!
Remember, I saw the WORST Gopher team back in 1971-1972!! And there were worse refs then too.
I feel bad for some of the players, but it takes TIME to gel all the positions.
I did not enjoy the game at all, but they are MY TEAM come hell or high water. 
Hopefully things will get on track next weekend.
QoGH
Quote: Rau 4 SkiUMah 2.0Is it the recruiting? Is the talent not going into effect? Is it lack of grit? Is Larson getting out coached? Because at this point the UND series is looking like an outlier.
The team played very differently vs UND and got a sweep. For some reason, they only play that style against UND. Questionable coaching to have such drastically different playing strategies and choose the one that doesn't work more often.
Less hitting, less aggressiveness, slower skating, nobody going to the net. Why? I understand you can't always play the same style every game, but when you're down 0-4 after getting badly outplays for 4 straight periods... time to switch it up. Zero guys in front of the net is inexcusable.