Justice League (Zack Snyder cut) (HBO Max):
Take a 90 minute storyline.
Add 45 minutes of "ancient lamentation music"
Add 45 minutes of "dramatic orchestral music"
Fill the last hour with overly dramatic slo-mo scenes.
And then you have this bloated piece of garbage that everyone was waiting for. Sometimes less is more, folks. Just saying.
You liked the original more than this? :crazy:
It was an enjoyable movie. Nothing ZOMG, but for what it was, it was fine.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Promising Young Woman
I wasnt sure what to expect, but I remembered the trailer once I got into the movie. It’s a revenge movie and it’s one of the best movies that’s a recent release I’ve seen in a long time. Best to go in with no idea of what’s going to happen.
Finally watched Tenet and holy hell, my mind is gravy. Need to re-watch but I was very lost at times but overall a great movie
Justice League (Zack Snyder cut) (HBO Max):
Take a 90 minute storyline.
Add 45 minutes of "ancient lamentation music"
Add 45 minutes of "dramatic orchestral music"
Fill the last hour with overly dramatic slo-mo scenes.
And then you have this bloated piece of garbage that everyone was waiting for. Sometimes less is more, folks. Just saying.
You liked the original more than this? :crazy:
It was an enjoyable movie. Nothing ZOMG, but for what it was, it was fine.
This bloated piece of garbage was just fine?
The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
Describing it with that terminology does not discourage me from watching it
The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
Describing it with that terminology does not discourage me from watching it
Rube is basically the only person I've seen not raving about it, FWIW
Yeah most people I've seen enjoyed it greatly over the original. We haven't watched the new one yet.
The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
Describing it with that terminology does not discourage me from watching it
Rube is basically the only person I've seen not raving about it, FWIW
Hmm, no he’s not. “Bloated mess” is a pretty common description from anyone over the age of 16 who doesn’t live in their moms basement.
There’s a reason why the job position of Editor holds power in a film, it’s necessary and keeps a directors whim in check. In this case you had a director doing his own editing and a 4 HOUR slog was the result. That does not make a good movie, that makes a self-indulgent piece of crap.
Dorothy: Who’s that?
Scarecrow: A man with an axe and a can of lube. I’ll ask if he wants to join us.
Just watched The Last Blockbuster to kill some time before hockey. I thought it was pretty good, partly because in my former life I was a Blockbuster Manager for about 10 years in the Twin Cities. Now if they make one about Kay Bee Toys... 
I actually give a @#$* about the Twins
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The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
Describing it with that terminology does not discourage me from watching it
Rube is basically the only person I've seen not raving about it, FWIW
Hmm, no he’s not. “Bloated mess” is a pretty common description from anyone over the age of 16 who doesn’t live in their moms basement.
There’s a reason why the job position of Editor holds power in a film, it’s necessary and keeps a directors whim in check. In this case you had a director doing his own editing and a 4 HOUR slog was the result. That does not make a good movie, that makes a self-indulgent piece of crap.
I did say "the only person I've seen". I hadn't sought out movie reviewer opinions on it because they rarely have good things to say about superhero movies.
And for the record, none of the people I've seen raving about are under the age of 21 and most own their own house and their own kids. (At least of the ones I know personally, I'm assuming about the twitter accounts).
Was it longer than it needed to be? Probably. But he also made this with the expectation that his original plan for a trilogy was never going to come to fruition (though given the audience score is 95% on RottenTomatoes and had a count of 3005 positive to 184 negative reviews on Metacritic, I wouldn't be totally shocked if DCU lets him do them after all).
He also made this movie before we had any real introduction to Momoa as Aquaman and Ezra as Barry. So he included parts of the film to give more vision to what HE had in mind rather than what we ended up with after the original Justice League. He also showed a ton more of Cyborg's origin, which was IMO extremely important given his undeniable importance to the overall story - the original was basically "hey here's a guy who is part computer and can do computery stuff" with no real background.
IMO, Batman was significantly better in the Snyder Cut than the original, Cyborg was infinitely better, the Flash was better. Wonder Woman and Superman were more or less the same. Steppenwolf was far more formidable. Plus there was an actual REASON for him to be on Earth, which the original did not have.
If you're worried about the length of time, watch it in increments. That's why they made 6 segments. ?♂️
I think that if Snyder rounded it out to about 2-2.5 hours, it would have been fantastic.
And to be clear: the original wasn't great, but it was fine for what it was: a "lite" version of a superhero movie.
I do agree about professional movie critics, though.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
Describing it with that terminology does not discourage me from watching it
Rube is basically the only person I've seen not raving about it, FWIW
Hmm, no he’s not. “Bloated mess” is a pretty common description from anyone over the age of 16 who doesn’t live in their moms basement.
There’s a reason why the job position of Editor holds power in a film, it’s necessary and keeps a directors whim in check. In this case you had a director doing his own editing and a 4 HOUR slog was the result. That does not make a good movie, that makes a self-indulgent piece of crap.
I did say "the only person I've seen". I hadn't sought out movie reviewer opinions on it because they rarely have good things to say about superhero movies.
And for the record, none of the people I've seen raving about are under the age of 21 and most own their own house and their own kids. (At least of the ones I know personally, I'm assuming about the twitter accounts).
Was it longer than it needed to be? Probably. But he also made this with the expectation that his original plan for a trilogy was never going to come to fruition (though given the audience score is 95% on RottenTomatoes and had a count of 3005 positive to 184 negative reviews on Metacritic, I wouldn't be totally shocked if DCU lets him do them after all).
He also made this movie before we had any real introduction to Momoa as Aquaman and Ezra as Barry. So he included parts of the film to give more vision to what HE had in mind rather than what we ended up with after the original Justice League. He also showed a ton more of Cyborg's origin, which was IMO extremely important given his undeniable importance to the overall story - the original was basically "hey here's a guy who is part computer and can do computery stuff" with no real background.
IMO, Batman was significantly better in the Snyder Cut than the original, Cyborg was infinitely better, the Flash was better. Wonder Woman and Superman were more or less the same. Steppenwolf was far more formidable. Plus there was an actual REASON for him to be on Earth, which the original did not have.
If you're worried about the length of time, watch it in increments. That's why they made 6 segments. ?♂️
Fair enough. My own opinion is based on the original intention of this film. Until he had to leave this WAS to be a theater release. Even IF he had stayed with the project it was never going to be a 6 segment experience or even his dream of a trilogy. So this “cut” is unrealistic business-wise. He walked away with hours of rough film and this Snyder Cut is just an example of a director who thinks everything he touches is gold. It’s not. Film stories need to be told in a concise and clear manner. Not being able to edit your work shows ego and questionable judgement. What I DO like is the totally different “look” he intended, color and light made a much different feel and I liked that part. What I didn’t like was the stretchiiiiiiiiiiiing out of the story. Maybe the real issue is if superhero stories can still be effectively told on the big screen? Or, if the audience has become more sophisticated, which I think it has, a multi-episode format is now almost a requirement.
Dorothy: Who’s that?
Scarecrow: A man with an axe and a can of lube. I’ll ask if he wants to join us.
I didn’t know I was supposed to gauge my enjoyment of a movie on whether the director seems like a dick or not
The original was fine. The bloated masturbatory Snyder cut was not fine.
Describing it with that terminology does not discourage me from watching it
Rube is basically the only person I've seen not raving about it, FWIW
Hmm, no he’s not. “Bloated mess” is a pretty common description from anyone over the age of 16 who doesn’t live in their moms basement.
There’s a reason why the job position of Editor holds power in a film, it’s necessary and keeps a directors whim in check. In this case you had a director doing his own editing and a 4 HOUR slog was the result. That does not make a good movie, that makes a self-indulgent piece of crap.
I did say "the only person I've seen". I hadn't sought out movie reviewer opinions on it because they rarely have good things to say about superhero movies.
And for the record, none of the people I've seen raving about are under the age of 21 and most own their own house and their own kids. (At least of the ones I know personally, I'm assuming about the twitter accounts).
Was it longer than it needed to be? Probably. But he also made this with the expectation that his original plan for a trilogy was never going to come to fruition (though given the audience score is 95% on RottenTomatoes and had a count of 3005 positive to 184 negative reviews on Metacritic, I wouldn't be totally shocked if DCU lets him do them after all).
He also made this movie before we had any real introduction to Momoa as Aquaman and Ezra as Barry. So he included parts of the film to give more vision to what HE had in mind rather than what we ended up with after the original Justice League. He also showed a ton more of Cyborg's origin, which was IMO extremely important given his undeniable importance to the overall story - the original was basically "hey here's a guy who is part computer and can do computery stuff" with no real background.
IMO, Batman was significantly better in the Snyder Cut than the original, Cyborg was infinitely better, the Flash was better. Wonder Woman and Superman were more or less the same. Steppenwolf was far more formidable. Plus there was an actual REASON for him to be on Earth, which the original did not have.
If you're worried about the length of time, watch it in increments. That's why they made 6 segments. ?♂️
Fair enough. My own opinion is based on the original intention of this film. Until he had to leave this WAS to be a theater release. Even IF he had stayed with the project it was never going to be a 6 segment experience or even his dream of a trilogy. So this “cut” is unrealistic business-wise. He walked away with hours of rough film and this Snyder Cut is just an example of a director who thinks everything he touches is gold. It’s not. Film stories need to be told in a concise and clear manner. Not being able to edit your work shows ego and questionable judgement. What I DO like is the totally different “look” he intended, color and light made a much different feel and I liked that part. What I didn’t like was the stretchiiiiiiiiiiiing out of the story. Maybe the real issue is if superhero stories can still be effectively told on the big screen? Or, if the audience has become more sophisticated, which I think it has, a multi-episode format is now almost a requirement.
Unless you know something I don't, the Justice League was intended to be a series a la MCU's Avengers. DCU was originally planning to have individual hero movies (Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, IIRC there is a Flash movie coming next year) and then the team-ups with various Justice League characters like this one. Even the theatrical release teased the sequel before it got terrible reviews and they scrapped it.
The thing that the MCU has done so well in comparison is character development. Each character in the original Avengers movie had layers of backstory that was easy to see if you watched the rest. Really the only one that didn't have in-depth backstop was Hawkeye, but he also got more backstory than Flash or Cyborg in the original Justice League release.
I didn’t know I was supposed to gauge my enjoyment of a movie on whether the director seems like a dick or not
A director can be a complete a-hole. I don't care. Can he direct a movie and make it entertaining? That's all I care about.
In this case, Snyder fawned over himself way too much, and made a not good movie.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
I didn’t know I was supposed to gauge my enjoyment of a movie on whether the director seems like a dick or not
A director can be a complete a-hole. I don't care. Can he direct a movie and make it entertaining? That's all I care about.
In this case, Snyder fawned over himself way too much, and made a not good movie.
The bar isn’t high but I thought it was the best DC movie so far
I didn’t know I was supposed to gauge my enjoyment of a movie on whether the director seems like a dick or not
A director can be a complete a-hole. I don't care. Can he direct a movie and make it entertaining? That's all I care about.
In this case, Snyder fawned over himself way too much, and made a not good movie.
The bar isn’t high but I thought it was the best DC movie so far
AHEM. That would be "Birds Of Prey." That movie was outstanding, IMO.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Pretty sure this version is not meant to be watched in one sitting.
Can we please move on? So bored with the Justice League talk.
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Is anyone else excited for Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat?
MK looks like it is going to be extremely gory and very fun.
Godzilla v Kong should be super entertaining too.
Is anyone else excited for Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat?
MK looks like it is going to be extremely gory and very fun.
Godzilla v Kong should be super entertaining too.
Godzilla v Kong. Hell yes.
Also Matrix 4.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Is anyone else excited for Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat?
MK looks like it is going to be extremely gory and very fun.
Godzilla v Kong should be super entertaining too.
Godzilla v Kong. Hell yes.
Also Matrix 4.
Looking forward to Godzilla vs. Kong even though I predict critics will hate it.
As for the Matrix 4 it can't be worse than 2 and 3 can it?
Watched Molly's game last night on Netflix. Very good movie. One of the better ones I seen this year. Jessica Chastain was great as was Idris Elba the guy who played her lawyer. Bill Camp who is good in everything was also great as one of the players.
Watched this last night too and was entertained. I didn't know the story at all and had some great actors/actress in it. Chastain did great as the lead.
Is anyone else excited for Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat?
MK looks like it is going to be extremely gory and very fun.
Godzilla v Kong should be super entertaining too.
Really excited for Mortal Kombat. One of my favorite games as a kid and the movie looks to be pure fighting and nonsense. Sign me up.
Is anyone else excited for Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat?
MK looks like it is going to be extremely gory and very fun.
Godzilla v Kong should be super entertaining too.
Really excited for Mortal Kombat. One of my favorite games as a kid and the movie looks to be pure fighting and nonsense. Sign me up.
This is 100% the reason I'm so excited for it. It looks like it's going to be super fun.
Is anyone else excited for Godzilla vs. Kong and Mortal Kombat?
MK looks like it is going to be extremely gory and very fun.
Godzilla v Kong should be super entertaining too.
Godzilla v Kong. Hell yes.
Also Matrix 4.
Looking forward to Godzilla vs. Kong even though I predict critics will hate it.
As for the Matrix 4 it can't be worse than 2 and 3 can it?
I loved the ending to Matrix 2. Loved. 3 was a bit bloated for the war scenes.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
The King of the Monsters movie was better than I expected which I’m hoping will continue. They seem to be building a franchise but I’m not sure how far they can go without character development.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
I like a lot of dumb comedy. This was painful.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
I like a lot of dumb comedy. This was painful.
You have to watch it a few times....then a few more times.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
I like a lot of dumb comedy. This was painful.
You have to watch it a few times....then a few more times.
Not gonna happen. It's just not....
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
The King of the Monsters movie was better than I expected which I’m hoping will continue. They seem to be building a franchise but I’m not sure how far they can go without character development.
King of the Monsters was far better than I thought it would be. Part of why I'm excited for Godzilla vs Kong
The King of the Monsters movie was better than I expected which I’m hoping will continue. They seem to be building a franchise but I’m not sure how far they can go without character development.
King of the Monsters was far better than I thought it would be. Part of why I'm excited for Godzilla vs Kong
I'm traditional Goijra guy, but some of the newer ones were rather entertaining. I feel like they've learned from their mistakes over time, and have improved a little with each new release. I am certain it will be fun. That's all I ask. If it ends up being ZOMG? Bonus.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
I like a lot of dumb comedy. This was painful.
If you only made it 10 minutes, you didn't get to any of the good parts.
I've seen enough of those movies, especially with Ferrell and Reilly,to know where this one was headed.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
How dare you!!
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
How dare you!!
He really loves to be wrong a lot doesn't he?
Re-watches:
Blade 2 and Pitch Perfect (HBO Max):
Liked both these movies for different reasons. Entertaining, one was all action/bad-ass stuff (Ron Perlman AND Wes Snipes? Ok) or off the cuff silly.
Funny thing was, I hadn't watched Blade before I saw Blade 2 (buddy convinced me to go see it in a theater, said I didn't need to know Blade before seeing the sequel, and he was right). I actually didn't really like Blade all that much, but the 2nd was good. Haven't seen the 3rd.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Boss Level. A retired military operative finds himself in a never-ending time loop on the day of his death. This looked like it might be a flop, but it was a no-nonsense, fun action flick that didn't take itself too seriously but wasn't campy and had a legit plot. Some big name actors too. Fun popcorn flick.
Trial of the Chicago 7 -- watched as I saw it as a Oscar nominee. Great movie and worth the watch. I didn't know a ton of the story, but was a entertaining watch
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
I like a lot of dumb comedy. This was painful.
Call me Dragon, but I enjoyed it and watch bits of it when it is on television.
Trial of the Chicago 7 -- watched as I saw it as a Oscar nominee. Great movie and worth the watch. I didn't know a ton of the story, but was a entertaining watch
Exceptional. Enjoyed it immensely.
Re-watching "Godzilla" (2014), "Kong: Skull Island" (2017) and "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" (2019) before I view "Godzilla vs. Kong"
Re-watching "Godzilla" (2014), "Kong: Skull Island" (2017) and "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" (2019) before I view "Godzilla vs. Kong"
Having just finished Godzilla vs Kong, it’s not necessary for plot purposes. Unless you really want to re-watch them for entertainment. Then by all means go for it.
I've seen enough of those movies, especially with Ferrell and Reilly,to know where this one was headed.
Step Brothers was the reason all their other movies got made but they never quite recreated the magic of SB.
Also, why in the hell did I think "Step Brothers" was worth my time? Took about 10 minutes to realize I should have listened to my gut.
Step Brothers is an American treasure. Boats N Hoes should have won a Grammy.
I like a lot of dumb comedy. This was painful.
Call me Dragon, but I enjoyed it and watch bits of it when it is on television.
Only if you call me Nighthawk
Godzilla vs. Kong was very fun.
Re-watching "Godzilla" (2014), "Kong: Skull Island" (2017) and "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" (2019) before I view "Godzilla vs. Kong"
Having just finished Godzilla vs Kong, it’s not necessary for plot purposes. Unless you really want to re-watch them for entertainment. Then by all means go for it.
Yup, strictly for fun. A lot of good performances to enjoy.