https://twitter.com/Hockey_Robinson/status/1514961241344602112
So door is probably open for Nazar to go major junior if he doesn't like what happens when Mel Pearson leaves.
https://twitter.com/usahockey/status/1511403391213219843?s=20&t=S56n9FwobbmKNz_lc2x6BA
Rand Pecknold (QU) will coach Team USA at next year's World Juniors, '22-'23. Pat Ferschweiler (WMU; Rochester) & Reid Cashman (Dartmouth; Red Wing) are the assistant coaches - both MN natives.
Everyone does realize there are professionals all over the world who interview for various positions that don’t get it and they continue on in that position with solid results, right?
For someone to say that Hastings is in a no-win situation to interview or say he isn’t happy, everyone would be foolish not to look for a better opportunity in their lives and we don’t know what that may be. As much as some of you are frustrated that you don’t know the ins and outs of coaches at the D1 level, clearly Hastings has done well in Kato and everyone wants him to be there, but we don’t know all the details and it isn’t wrong for someone to at least explore options in their professional career. He has ZERO commitment to MSUM. Zero. He can write a blank check right now most likely, especially for a big name school. Maybe not a big name hockey school, but a big time university.
I can give you a million examples where someone interviews, doesn’t get the job and no one questions their commitment to their current job. People would be super naïeve to think otherwise and maybe they aren’t in a professional career but that’s the reality of it. He needs to do what is best for him and his family. For some, it’s staying put. For others it isn’t.
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While Hastings has built MSU-Mankato into a National Title contender (the past 5 years) & has the advantage of recruiting a decent number of MN born players to a home state team. Give a far superior school academically and networking after graduation (St Thomas) 5 years and the quality of players on their roster will be impressive, being a state of MN school clearly matters when it comes to recruiting, whether those on GPL are willing to acknowledge it or not, it’s a fact.☝️Out of 22 players on the Mike Hastings/Mankato roster that beat the Gophers, not even half the players were from Minnesota.While 8 were Minnesotan, 4 were Canadian, 2 from Florida, 2 from Colorado and one each from Germany, Ohio, Czech Republic, California, llinios and Michigan.Guessing that being a “Minnesota School” wasn’t too important to the majority of THIS roster.
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While Hastings has built MSU-Mankato into a National Title contender (the past 5 years) & has the advantage of recruiting a decent number of MN born players to a home state team. Give a far superior school academically and networking after graduation (St Thomas) 5 years and the quality of players on their roster will be impressive, being a state of MN school clearly matters when it comes to recruiting, whether those on GPL are willing to acknowledge it or not, it’s a fact.☝️Out of 22 players on the Mike Hastings/Mankato roster that beat the Gophers, not even half the players were from Minnesota.While 8 were Minnesotan, 4 were Canadian, 2 from Florida, 2 from Colorado and one each from Germany, Ohio, Czech Republic, California, llinios and Michigan.Guessing that being a “Minnesota School” wasn’t too important to the majority of THIS roster.<p style="text-align: center;">
lol…I’m assuming you were formerly registered but had to re-register due to the server change and that’s why this is your very 1ST post…in any event…Lutz, McNeely, Bourchart, Aamont, Sandelin, Mass.. all played in the National title game & were key contributors this season…all MN born :good2:</p>
Yeah he noted there were 8 on the team already. Thanks?
Any relation between this Strobel and the Gopher commit?
Uncle
Terms of Strobel's exit--- It appears that if he gets another job other than a Head Coach he will have to pay the school 50k.
https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/status/1516077382117044236/photo/1
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Strip him of the Hobey immediately!
McKay, 25, tested positive for ostarine (enobosarm) as the result of a sample collected out of competition on January 23, 2022. Ostarine is a Non-Specified Substance in the class of Anabolic Agents and prohibited at all times under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing, the United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee National Anti-Doping Policy, and the International Ice Hockey Federation Anti-Doping Regulations, all of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code (the Code) and the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Prohibited List.
During USADA’s investigation into the circumstances of the case, USADA received results from a WADA-accredited laboratory that a supplement product McKay was using prior to sample collection, which did not list ostarine on the Supplement Facts label, was contaminated with that substance at an amount consistent with the circumstances of ingestion and his positive test. The Code provides the opportunity for a substantial reduction in the otherwise applicable period of ineligibility in this circumstance.
McKay accepted a six-month period of ineligibility that began on April 14, 2022, the date he accepted this sanction. The athlete was also granted a three-day credit for a provisional suspension served from January 31, 2022 through February 2, 2022. In addition, McKay’s competitive results obtained on January 23, 2022, the date his positive sample was collected, have been disqualified, including forfeiture of any medals, points and prizes.
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Waiting for Ciskie's and Little Sandy's twitter response...... :popcorn:
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Reading the details here he and his lawyer gamed the system. He should have been ineligible for the NCAA Tournament but they waited until the last possible day to accept the penalty which was after the season.
wow.
Wow what in the world
:goodpost: Holy Snikkies ? :wacko:
Huh
Since he played for Kato, was it Geritol or another supplement for older aged people? :mail:
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It's interesting in that in McKay's statement he says that it was a Vitamin D3 supplement and not this other supplement that is listed in that article. It is not surprising as well that McKay and MSU did use every bit of time to keep him eligible to play the rest of the season. I have no doubt that it was unintentional in it's use but the doping agency is known to throw the book at every athlete in a doping investigation.
Do I think this supplement helped him win all those games and the Hobey? Nope. I will say that I am surprised that MSU let him have his own supplements though. MSU's strength and conditioning coach used to sell his own brand of whey protein so he knows the ins and outs of supplements. I would imagine that going forward that there will be an approved list of supplements for the hockey team to take. Though this would have been a moot point if it weren't for McKay being the alternative for Olympic competition.
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I remember when Nate Schmidt got nailed for the same thing when he played for Vegas. He got 20 games.
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So I am good giving the kids/adult and administration a pass on this because it apparently was unintentional. What I struggle with is gaming the system to stay eligible all season and then to win the Hobey, which is awarded to the NCAA hockey player who “exhibits strength of character both on and off the ice" and "contributes to the integrity of the team and displays outstanding skills in all phases of the game"
This situation is the exact opposite of this situation and I would say it about a Gopher player as well.
If this had happened to a Gopher player and he won the Hobey, there would be outrage over it. Guaranteed.
The award is given to a player who exhibits character, integrity, and sportsmanship. If a Gopher player broke the rules and then hid it so he could finish the season I would advocate for them to lose the award and apologize. As McKay should do here.
If this had happened to a Gopher player and he won the Hobey, there would be outrage over it. Guaranteed.
This obviously isn't why he should lose it (those reasons have already been spelled out) but I did think it almost immediately. Could you imagine Bruce? Good lord it would have been something to see.
Apparently the positive effects wore off in the second intermission of the championship game…. :yahoo:
Apparently the positive effects wore off in the second intermission of the championship game….
Roids played no part in the Kato/Gopher game as we only had a decent shot or two. But who knows if this had come out a month ago maybe everything plays out different with different seedings etc?
Apparently the positive effects wore off in the second intermission of the championship game….
Roids played no part in the Kato/Gopher game as we only had a decent shot or two. But who knows if this had come out a month ago maybe everything plays out different with different seedings etc?
”roids” ??? Did you even read the story ?
So Michigan loses 9 players to the Pros. A big hit to the team that was going to “win it all” this last season. Does anyone know who they have coming in next season to replace the “elite #1 draft picks” who mostly left? Trying to get a feel for next years Big10. I really like the Gophers potential.
So Michigan loses 9 players to the Pros. A big hit to the team that was going to “win it all” this last season. Does anyone know who they have coming in next season to replace the “elite #1 draft picks” who mostly left? Trying to get a feel for next years Big10. I really like the Gophers potential.
A very highly regarded class.
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Dryden McKay cheated.
The McKay "doping" appears to be unintentional.
According to one article: "USADA also said that a supplement he’d taken was contaminated with ostarine, according to results from a World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited lab. It was at a level consistent “with the circumstances of ingestion and his positive test,” the USADA said, and the facts label on the supplement label didn’t list ostarine."
It certainly is contrary to those who think unproven supplements "can't hurt". He is fortunate that he kept his supplements to be sent in.
I think he got a raw deal. It does not rise to be a character issue. Six months seems plenty harsh. The financial consequences of sending in supplements for testing, legal representation are not trivial.
McKay may be getting a raw deal but there's no way a Gopher player would be given the benefit of the doubt in this situation.
I just talked with my boss, the MSU hockey donor, about this "scandal" as it were. Like every article has said, the level of contamination was a grain of salt in a swimming pool. Even if it was a kiddie pool that is so small there is no benefit to the person taking it. The NCAA and MSU was made aware of this and they both cleared McKay to play. So the last agency in the pool, pun intended, was the USADA and their due process of charging McKay worked in his favor to finish the season. Much like he has out on the ice at times, a horseshoe was placed in an advantageous area to his benefit.
To his detriment though, his pro career will have a steep hill to climb now...as if he didn't have a hill to climb already with very little pro interest in his services. Which is still interesting to me since Devon Levi, who won the Richter and is a Sabres prospect, is the exact same physical size as McKay. So there is something that every pro scout sees that most college hockey fans and writers don't.
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The McKay “doping” appears to be unintentional. According to one article: “USADA also said that a supplement he’d taken was contaminated with ostarine, according to results from a World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited lab. It was at a level consistent “with the circumstances of ingestion and his positive test,” the USADA said, and the facts label on the supplement label didn’t list ostarine.” It certainly is contrary to those who think unproven supplements “can’t hurt”. He is fortunate that he kept his supplements to be sent in. I think he got a raw deal. It does not rise to be a character issue. Six months seems plenty harsh. The financial consequences of sending in supplements for testing, legal representation are not trivial.
Six months isn't harsh in the least considering the playing season doesn't start for 6 months. The guy already was allowed to play through the end of the season despite knowing he had taken PEDs. Seems like no penalty at all.
He was able to run out the clock until the season was over, then serve his suspension during the off season. That's about as good an outcome anyone could hope for.
If anyone actually bothered to read the article, the McKay "doping scandal" is a non-story.
If anyone actually bothered to read the article, the McKay “doping scandal” is a non-story.
I read the article and it said he was taking a supplement with Ostarine.
From WebMD
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1564/ostarine
Ostarine is a type of drug called a selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM). It's not approved by the FDA, but is sometimes found in supplements.
Ostarine attaches to proteins in the body known as androgen receptors. When ostarine binds to these receptors, it tells muscles to grow.
People use ostarine for athletic performance, involuntary weight loss due to illness, breast cancer, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.
Ostarine is an investigational drug and therefore not approved for any use by the US FDA. Despite this, it is still sometimes found in dietary supplements, particularly those marketed for bodybuilding. Ostarine, along with other SARMS, is banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA).
If anyone actually bothered to read the article, the McKay “doping scandal” is a non-story.
I think the way it was handled was fair. Has to be some consequence because there are always people that will find a way to get around the rules, but from all the evidence it seems like he was unaware. And of all the positions in major sports where a banned substance probably wouldn't really help you anyway, it would be hockey goalie.
I'm a skeptic, so I always figure for every person that gets caught with PEDs there's a hundred that got away with it though. People always finding ways to act like they were unaware but really knew what they were getting.
It is miss leading to say that "it's like a grain of salt in a swimming pool". The USADA report never states how much was detected just that it was consistent with both samples meaning it came from that supplement. So it could be very small traces or 3mg, it doesn't say. and that's why its an issue. That he's getting suspended it has to be an amount that's sufficient to have effects.
It is miss leading to say that “it’s like a grain of salt in a swimming pool”. The USADA report never states how much was detected just that it was consistent with both samples meaning it came from that supplement. So it could be very small traces or 3mg, it doesn’t say. and that’s why its an issue. That he’s getting suspended it has to be an amount that’s sufficient to have effects.
Correct. We weren't given information as to the quantity he consumed. The way I read it was the levels in his sample were consistent with the levels in the supplement he ingested (given the quantities he consumed). Meaning he wasn't also getting additional Ostarine from another source. So they were confident the supplement he provided was the sole source.
As to whether or not it helped enhanced his performance....there is a reason he was taking this supplement that just happened to have an ingredient (SARM) that is often in supplements used by body builders.
I think Augie is going to be a pretty good hockey school in a few years. They are building it the right way. Great young coach, and building an arena right away. Plus, they have a deep pocket donor. With Raboin there, I can imagine that he will try to set up a series with the Gophers at some point, which selfishly will be an easy commute for me for that series in SF.
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Todd has a good overview on some of the potential rule changes that the NCAA may take a look at this off season.
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OT:
-Re-implement 5 on 5 OT, winner take all. Whatever you want to do after that, fine.
-Re-implement 20 minute OTs for tournaments like Beanpot
It's not hard, coaches. Just do it.
Also, yes, do this:
• Adopting the new NHL rule that a player is onside when the skate is above the blue line but not in contact with the ice.
Yes to this:
• Removing assessment of the penalty when a team scores during a delayed minor penalty. The college rules are an outlier in still imposing the penalty after a goal is scored.
Hard no to this:
• Allowing pucks that hit the netting above the glass at the end of rinks to remain in play as long as they've been shot from the offensive zone. That could prevent extra whistles but also could add a fascinating element of strategy in using the netting to set up possession behind the goal.
No to this:
• Approving shootouts to be used in non-conference games. The rules committee, however, doesn't have the power to decide how results from overtimes or shootouts are used in the Ratings Percentage Index and PairWise Rankings; that's up to the sport committees.
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If anyone actually bothered to read the article, the McKay “doping scandal” is a non-story.
Completely agree. There often can be a huge difference between headlines and what is actually reported. Context.. is king.
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Happy to read the coaches are looking at the faceoff rule. This past season or two (at lest to me) it seems linesman have gotten a little power hungry when dropping the puck, I swear they have more false starts than the Vikings OL.
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Happy to read the coaches are looking at the faceoff rule. This past season or two (at lest to me) it seems linesman have gotten a little power hungry when dropping the puck, I swear they have more false starts than the Vikings OL.
It's like when they call offsides...sometimes it seems like they enjoy being able to influence the flow of a game.
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If anyone actually bothered to read the article, the McKay “doping scandal” is a non-story.
Completely agree. There often can be a huge difference between headlines and what is actually reported. Context.. is king.
There's also usually a huge difference between the actual truth and the bullshit that spews out of someone's mouth when they get caught doing something illegal. Using a "supplement" that isn't on the NCAA's approved list, is hard to do accidentally