I miss the back and forth that used to happen on this site and uscho when we would play the sue, badgers and bulldogs. Even though I did not participate in the dialog, it was fun to read. I grew up in the Northwest side of the state, that was/is mainly sue territory, and took a lot of grief as a Gopher fan. A neice just had a baby, and her husband is a die-hard susie fan. Guess what the kid is getting for Christmas... 🤣
Looks like it is happening. CHL players will be able to play in the NCAA next year.
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
I hope I am wrong, but I don't see this as being good for college hockey. It's just going to make the league older and less skilled. Nobody wants to watch AHL hockey.
Does this effectively kill the USHL?
I hope I am wrong, but I don't see this as being good for college hockey. It's just going to make the league older and less skilled. Nobody wants to watch AHL hockey.
yep will 100% make the league older, though probably only slightly as we’ll see how many guys really come to the NCAA and play. The sad part to me is the number of guys here who will end up not making it to the college level or having to play D3 just due to leagues getting more saturated with players. Who knows how many years away we are from them being paid employees and effectively killing much of college athletics
@karlsson think we will see the shuffle both ways and instead it will get older and more an expectation guys are playing more years at the junior level regardless of where you play it. Only so many roster slots to go around so don’t think the league will fold. May see it happen in some of the lower like D3 junior leagues though
What is the talent level in the CHL vs. NCAA say perhaps for the average 23 y.o., 22 y.o,, etc. I guess I don't see how this is going to gut the NCAA as we presently know it.
I am sure there are guys in the CHL now that would have otherwise already gone to college if they gave a crap about going to class.
I also imagine some top players in the CHL would never pass a college entrance exam in the first place.
CHL teams play 68 games in the regular season vs what - about 40 in NCAA? Are players going to see being developed for the NHL as a superior experience in the NCAA over the CHL?
Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
I would think that USHL teams will try to join the CHL.Does this effectively kill the USHL?
What are you talking about when you say 22 23 year olds?What is the talent level in the CHL vs. NCAA say perhaps for the average 23 y.o., 22 y.o,, etc. I guess I don't see how this is going to gut the NCAA as we presently know it.
I am sure there are guys in the CHL now that would have otherwise already gone to college if they gave a crap about going to class.
I also imagine some top players in the CHL would never pass a college entrance exam in the first place.
CHL teams play 68 games in the regular season vs what - about 40 in NCAA? Are players going to see being developed for the NHL as a superior experience in the NCAA over the CHL?
Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
What are you talking about when you say 22 23 year olds?What is the talent level in the CHL vs. NCAA say perhaps for the average 23 y.o., 22 y.o,, etc. I guess I don't see how this is going to gut the NCAA as we presently know it.
I am sure there are guys in the CHL now that would have otherwise already gone to college if they gave a crap about going to class.
I also imagine some top players in the CHL would never pass a college entrance exam in the first place.
CHL teams play 68 games in the regular season vs what - about 40 in NCAA? Are players going to see being developed for the NHL as a superior experience in the NCAA over the CHL?
Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
I should have said 19 and 20. Although aren't teams allowed a few "over-agers" each?
Regardless my comment discussed things well beyond just that.
@slap-shot money and benefits. The lifestyle of say a big ten athlete and the resources plus stipends. CHL get paid but it’s not much
@slap-shot money and benefits. The lifestyle of say a big ten athlete and the resources plus stipends. CHL get paid but it’s not much
Let me put it this way - why in the previous system would a player play in the CHL vs. the USHL? The USHL emphasized education and the college route, whereas the CHL placed a stronger emphasis on professional development.
So yes now you can go from the CHL to the NCAA but if you're 18-20 and have NHL aspirations, is the allure of "the big ten lifestyle" more attractive than playing 68 games vs. 40? Or let's say it's a kid that aged out of the CHL - if that player isn't desired by a pro team are there going to be top flight NCAA programs that need that player over what they already have?
I dunno - maybe I'm being myopic and missing something but for now I don't see this leading to a sea change.
@slap-shot money and benefits. The lifestyle of say a big ten athlete and the resources plus stipends. CHL get paid but it’s not much
Let me put it this way - why in the previous system would a player play in the CHL vs. the USHL? The USHL emphasized education and the college route, whereas the CHL placed a stronger emphasis on professional development.
So yes now you can go from the CHL to the NCAA but if you're 18-20 and have NHL aspirations, is the allure of "the big ten lifestyle" more attractive than playing 68 games vs. 40? Or let's say it's a kid that aged out of the CHL - if that player isn't desired by a pro team are there going to be top flight NCAA programs that need that player over what they already have?
I dunno - maybe I'm being myopic and missing something but for now I don't see this leading to a sea change.
It’s a pretty big deal for a Canadian to leave home for the US at 16-20 to play juniors here and then try play college. So many play CHL and try go pro because they weren’t allowed to then go to college. Now they have that route. I’d envision it’s the guys looking to take that next step but do the first part at home
Not a surprise. He has 7 points which is tied for first on the team which is 5-3 after finishing their meat grinder of a non-conference schedule. So far most MSU fans I talk to have commented how noticeable, in a good way, he is whenever he is on the ice. I'm happy for his success so far this season.
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@g-manpuck It seems to have been a good move for both parties. I hope he has a great season!
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Folks seem to forget he was our leading scorer last year. Really talented player, good to see him doing well.
Isn't this literally the thread to talk about all teams?Would sure be nice if there was an ignore feature for certain posters who can't seem to stop talking about other teams or taking shots at UMN.
It would be one thing if it stayed in this thread. We all know that's not the case though
Cornell in their first game of the season (Ivy teams start late) scores 3 first period goals in a 4-1 win against the Sue.
Michigan scores 5 times in the 3rd period at BU to get the win 5-1.
Wisconsin on the road out shots Notre Dame 44-24 (36-13 over the last two periods and OT) but the Irish get a 3 on 3 goal to win 3-2 in OT.
The Badgers drop to 1-6 overall and 0-3 in the Big Ten. Two of the Badgers losses in the Big Ten have been in overtime so they have 2 points out of 9.
What’s the reasoning for the Ivy League teams starting nearly a month after everyone else.
Keep your stick on the ice...
The Ivy teams only play 29 regular season games rather than the normal 34. They do this because they are school first (over sports) universities.
The Ivy teams only play 29 regular season games rather than the normal 34. They do this because they are school first (over sports) universities.
So do they not allow their players to participate in NIL?
That's actually a good question.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Watching the tape delay of St Cloud and BC. Huskies score tying goal in the 2nd. A 5 minute review overturns it for goalie interference. I’d argue it was marginal contact and the goalie re-set without issue before a shot came on. Two minutes later BC scores a shorty. Could have been a different game.
Watching the tape delay of St Cloud and BC. Huskies score tying goal in the 2nd. A 5 minute review overturns it for goalie interference. I’d argue it was marginal contact and the goalie re-set without issue before a shot came on. Two minutes later BC scores a shorty. Could have been a different game.
well, as Gopher fans, after last year we should be very experienced in understanding what apparently constitutes goalie interference…
Couldn’t have happened to a better team though. 😂
and that old guy down on the glass flipping out after BCs next goal hopefully didn’t have a heart attack.
It’s great day for hockey Gophers win, the Fighting Whioux and the Badddgers lose
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The Badgers drop to 1-6 overall and 0-3 in the Big Ten. Two of the Badgers losses in the Big Ten have been in overtime so they have 2 points out of 9.
Obviously still very early. Always interesting to watch how a coach handles the transition from one program to another like this (not just on the ice but also with recruiting). Can’t complain too much about their first year with Hastings given their recent history as a program… but I’m still wondering if he’ll be able to manage the right balancing act in the long haul. At Mankato, he had a wheelhouse for what to recruit and build around. It’s a different animal when you get to a program with more historical success and a fan base that wouldn’t be too keen on the same team makeup that Mankato had when he was there.
@snowcool08 I drove up St Cloud last night for that game and I had no idea what the goalie interference was. It did swing the game to BC but SC's PP was awful all night and the shorthanded goal along with the goalie interference was too much for SC to overcome. Gabe Perreault for BC is an impressive player and they are a pretty skilled team, they will no doubt be in contention to get to St Louis in March. *Edit, April not March.
Cornell playing their first two games of the season sweeps the Sue. No wonder they were getting that one first place vote in the poll. Somebody knew just how good they were. 😀
BU gets swept at home by Michigan.
St. Cloud gets swept at home by BC.
Wisconsin gets a road win against Notre Dame and wins the series (4 points to 2 points) with the OT loss last night.
Ivy Leagues are good b/c they get a few extra weeks of practice!
I kid, I kid.
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With over 55 percent of the Big Ten non conference games completed they have the best winning % at .732
Hockey East is .633 and the NCHC is .586
The Big Ten is 3-1 against Hockey East and 4-4-1 against the NCHC.
He did a great job at keeping his eye on the puck. 😀
He plays an in your face style of hockey.
Obviously still very early. Always interesting to watch how a coach handles the transition from one program to another like this (not just on the ice but also with recruiting). Can’t complain too much about their first year with Hastings given their recent history as a program… but I’m still wondering if he’ll be able to manage the right balancing act in the long haul. At Mankato, he had a wheelhouse for what to recruit and build around. It’s a different animal when you get to a program with more historical success and a fan base that wouldn’t be too keen on the same team makeup that Mankato had when he was there.
I guess at a recent donor gathering here there was a informal poll taken amongst the donors if they had a chance would they take Hastings back...results were 100% against welcoming back their former coach. Everyone from the athletic department, donors, fans, and players love Luke Strand and his staff.
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Obviously still very early. Always interesting to watch how a coach handles the transition from one program to another like this (not just on the ice but also with recruiting). Can’t complain too much about their first year with Hastings given their recent history as a program… but I’m still wondering if he’ll be able to manage the right balancing act in the long haul. At Mankato, he had a wheelhouse for what to recruit and build around. It’s a different animal when you get to a program with more historical success and a fan base that wouldn’t be too keen on the same team makeup that Mankato had when he was there.
I guess at a recent donor gathering here there was a informal poll taken amongst the donors if they had a chance would they take Hastings back...results were 100% against welcoming back their former coach. Everyone from the athletic department, donors, fans, and players love Luke Strand and his staff.
I have had a few conversations with folks around Hastings in Mankato who seemed to indicate he was quite transactional of a person. He could be hard to work with and he wasn't exactly communicative on his way out the door to Madison either.
That isn't unique in upper levels of sports, but it doesn't help build bridges either.
he was quite transactional of a person
Couldn't have been more of a better description of Hastings from what I've been told of him by people who ever got to work/talk with him. Strand is so far from that "quid pro quo" type of approach with donors and the community.
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I get the jealousy and even anger over how things ended, but Mankato would take Hastings back in a heartbeat if given the chance.
I get the jealousy and even anger over how things ended, but Mankato would take Hastings back in a heartbeat if given the chance.
Direct quote from two members of the athletic department..."Nope". They are appreciative of the time spent here but he moved on and they have as well, not necessary to relive the past. There was anger last off season but I haven't seen or heard a single bit of jealousy that Wisconsin has Hastings. The Mankato community has embraced Strand and his staff and they have done the same equally in return...something that was not the case during the Hastings era.
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Gophers move up to #3 this week in rankings
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I have had a few conversations with folks around Hastings in Mankato who seemed to indicate he was quite transactional of a person.
Its my understanding that Lucia was very upset when Hastings stepped down after a year at the U because he had stuck his neck out to hire a non-alum at a time that some alums wanted the job. So yeah... quite transactional.
Gophers move up to #3 this week in rankings
lol that Wisconsin is even getting votes at this point. They may have the talent do so but no reason they should be getting votes based on current results
I get the jealousy and even anger over how things ended, but Mankato would take Hastings back in a heartbeat if given the chance.
Direct quote from two members of the athletic department..."Nope". They are appreciative of the time spent here but he moved on and they have as well, not necessary to relive the past. There was anger last off season but I haven't seen or heard a single bit of jealousy that Wisconsin has Hastings. The Mankato community has embraced Strand and his staff and they have done the same equally in return...something that was not the case during the Hastings era.
Its easy to say that when it isnt a possibility and things aren't terrible on your end. But if in a couple years this guy isn't winning enough and Hastings wants out of Sconnie and wants to come back they would not only have to consider it but likely would swallow their pride and do it.
None of us are in position to speak in absolutes.