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I miss the back and forth that used to happen on this site and uscho when we would play the sue, badgers and bulldogs. Even though I did not participate in the dialog, it was fun to read. I grew up in the Northwest side of the state, that was/is mainly sue territory, and took a lot of grief as a Gopher fan. A neice just had a baby, and her husband is a die-hard susie fan. Guess what the kid is getting for Christmas... 🤣 


   
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Looks like it is happening. CHL players will be able to play in the NCAA next year.

https://twitter.com/HpRadio/status/1851657532407714269

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I hope I am wrong, but I don't see this as being good for college hockey. It's just going to make the league older and less skilled. Nobody wants to watch AHL hockey. 


   
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Does this effectively kill the USHL?


   
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Posted by: @j22

I hope I am wrong, but I don't see this as being good for college hockey. It's just going to make the league older and less skilled. Nobody wants to watch AHL hockey. 

yep will 100% make the league older, though probably only slightly as we’ll see how many guys really come to the NCAA and play. The sad part to me is the number of guys here who will end up not making it to the college level or having to play D3 just due to leagues getting more saturated with players. Who knows how many years away we are from them being paid employees and effectively killing much of college athletics

 


   
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@karlsson think we will see the shuffle both ways and instead it will get older and more an expectation guys are playing more years at the junior level regardless of where you play it. Only so many roster slots to go around so don’t think the league will fold. May see it happen in some of the lower like D3 junior leagues though


   
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What is the talent level in the CHL vs. NCAA say perhaps for the average 23 y.o., 22 y.o,, etc. I guess I don't see how this is going to gut the NCAA as we presently know it. 

I am sure there are guys in the CHL now that would have otherwise already gone to college if they gave a crap about going to class.

I also imagine some top players in the CHL would never pass a college entrance exam in the first place.

CHL teams play 68 games in the regular season vs what - about 40 in NCAA?  Are players going to see being developed for the NHL as a superior experience in the NCAA over the CHL?

Maybe I'm missing something obvious.

 


   
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Posted by: @karlsson

Does this effectively kill the USHL?

I would think that USHL teams will try to join the CHL. 

 


   
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Posted by: @slap-shot

What is the talent level in the CHL vs. NCAA say perhaps for the average 23 y.o., 22 y.o,, etc. I guess I don't see how this is going to gut the NCAA as we presently know it. 

I am sure there are guys in the CHL now that would have otherwise already gone to college if they gave a crap about going to class.

I also imagine some top players in the CHL would never pass a college entrance exam in the first place.

CHL teams play 68 games in the regular season vs what - about 40 in NCAA?  Are players going to see being developed for the NHL as a superior experience in the NCAA over the CHL?

Maybe I'm missing something obvious.

 

What are you talking about when you say 22 23 year olds?

 


   
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Posted by: @j22

Posted by: @karlsson

Does this effectively kill the USHL?

I would think that USHL teams will try to join the CHL. 

 

A couple of them inquired about doing just that this summer.

 

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Posted by: @frozen4champs

Posted by: @j22

Posted by: @karlsson

Does this effectively kill the USHL?

I would think that USHL teams will try to join the CHL. 

 

A couple of them inquired about doing just that this summer.

 

Yeah, I don't see how they survive without doing that. 

 


   
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Posted by: @j22

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What is the talent level in the CHL vs. NCAA say perhaps for the average 23 y.o., 22 y.o,, etc. I guess I don't see how this is going to gut the NCAA as we presently know it. 

I am sure there are guys in the CHL now that would have otherwise already gone to college if they gave a crap about going to class.

I also imagine some top players in the CHL would never pass a college entrance exam in the first place.

CHL teams play 68 games in the regular season vs what - about 40 in NCAA?  Are players going to see being developed for the NHL as a superior experience in the NCAA over the CHL?

Maybe I'm missing something obvious.

What are you talking about when you say 22 23 year olds?

I should have said 19 and 20.  Although aren't teams allowed a few "over-agers" each?

Regardless my comment discussed things well beyond just that.  

 


   
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@slap-shot money and benefits. The lifestyle of say a big ten athlete and the resources plus stipends. CHL get paid but it’s not much


   
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@slap-shot money and benefits. The lifestyle of say a big ten athlete and the resources plus stipends. CHL get paid but it’s not much

Let me put it this way - why in the previous system would a player play in the CHL vs. the USHL?  The USHL emphasized education and the college route, whereas the CHL placed a stronger emphasis on professional development. 

So yes now you can go from the CHL to the NCAA but if you're 18-20 and have NHL aspirations, is the allure of "the big ten lifestyle" more attractive than playing 68 games vs. 40?  Or let's say it's a kid that aged out of the CHL - if that player isn't desired by a pro team are there going to be top flight NCAA programs that need that player over what they already have?

I dunno - maybe I'm being myopic and missing something but for now I don't see this leading to a sea change.


   
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Posted by: @slap-shot

Posted by: @upnorthkid

@slap-shot money and benefits. The lifestyle of say a big ten athlete and the resources plus stipends. CHL get paid but it’s not much

Let me put it this way - why in the previous system would a player play in the CHL vs. the USHL?  The USHL emphasized education and the college route, whereas the CHL placed a stronger emphasis on professional development. 

So yes now you can go from the CHL to the NCAA but if you're 18-20 and have NHL aspirations, is the allure of "the big ten lifestyle" more attractive than playing 68 games vs. 40?  Or let's say it's a kid that aged out of the CHL - if that player isn't desired by a pro team are there going to be top flight NCAA programs that need that player over what they already have?

I dunno - maybe I'm being myopic and missing something but for now I don't see this leading to a sea change.

 It’s a pretty big deal for a Canadian to leave home for the US at 16-20 to play juniors here and then try play college. So many play CHL and try go pro because they weren’t allowed to then go to college. Now they have that route. I’d envision it’s the guys looking to take that next step but do the first part at home 

 


   
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