From what I've read elsewhere it's damn near impossible to age out women from the NT due to how they are paid/contracted and unfortunately it's going to lead to years in which they're not as talented as they should be if they could replace some of the older players.
Wait, are the women really "contracted" to the USWNT?? I mean I know they get paid obviously, but any sort of contract that is requiring them to be on the team would be news to me.
It certainly doesn't work that way in men's international football, as far as I know. Manager just picks the best team from the pool of players and goes with it. Is it not the same for women?
It's quite complicated and I'm not up on the exact details. But the women's NT is run quite differently than the men's. On the one hand they have the argument they've been infinitely more successful, working against them is the difference in generated revenues.
From what I've read elsewhere it's damn near impossible to age out women from the NT due to how they are paid/contracted and unfortunately it's going to lead to years in which they're not as talented as they should be if they could replace some of the older players.
Wait, are the women really "contracted" to the USWNT?? I mean I know they get paid obviously, but any sort of contract that is requiring them to be on the team would be news to me.
It certainly doesn't work that way in men's international football, as far as I know. Manager just picks the best team from the pool of players and goes with it. Is it not the same for women?
It's quite complicated and I'm not up on the exact details. But the women's NT is run quite differently than the men's. On the one hand they have the argument they've been infinitely more successful, working against them is the difference in generated revenues.
From <a href=" https://time.com/5653250/uswnt-equal-pay-lawsuit /" class="bbcode_url"> https://time.com/5653250/uswnt-equal-pay-lawsuit/
According to the statement, the women’s national team’s agreement includes, among other things, guaranteed annual salaries, medical and dental insurance, paid child-care assistance, paid pregnancy and parental leave, severance benefits, multiple bonuses — benefits that U.S. Soccer says are not provided to the men’s national team.
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At the end of July, U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro argued that the women’s team has actually been paid more than the men’s team, saying that the federation paid the USWNT $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses, while the men received $26.4 million. The figures, compiled by U.S. Soccer and based on an analysis by the federation’s staff, did not include the benefits, such as health care and a 401(k), that female players get. (Men are not provided the same benefits, according to the federation). U.S. Soccer’s numbers also included National Women’s Soccer League salaries that U.S. Soccer pays, which were negotiated in the 2017 CBA. (The federation does not pay Major League Soccer salaries).
The women have guaranteed salaries, benefits, etc. and are paid less for performance. The men are paid strictly on performance, and haven't done all that well recently. Someone looked at it, and I cannot find it right now but I will keep trying - and the Men would earn more with the Women's "deal", and the Women would earn more with the Men's "deal". Its weird, complicated, and not cut and dry.
EDIT: I see [mention]Steve MN[/mention] referenced the same thing above about each earning more with the other's arrangement.
Loons looking for a rare road W this season and up 2-1 in stoppage time and Finley makes a terrible play inside the box in stoppage time. I'm not sure it was a legit penalty but you can't put yourself in that position. VAN makes the PK and ties the match.
Loons looking for a rare road W this season and up 2-1 in stoppage time and Finley makes a terrible play inside the box in stoppage time. I'm not sure it was a legit penalty but you can't put yourself in that position. VAN makes the PK and ties the match.
That's NEVER a penalty, and I'm shocked VAR didn't look at it. I'm not usually a "we were robed!" guy, but I actually feel like the ref stole 2 points from us last night. Terrible call.
Loons looking for a rare road W this season and up 2-1 in stoppage time and Finley makes a terrible play inside the box in stoppage time. I'm not sure it was a legit penalty but you can't put yourself in that position. VAN makes the PK and ties the match.
That's NEVER a penalty, and I'm shocked VAR didn't look at it. I'm not usually a "we were robed!" guy, but I actually feel like the ref stole 2 points from us last night. Terrible call.
That was a pretty suspect call seeing the relay of it.
VAR in my opinion is worthless the way it's setup. I think it has uses but if you're not going to look at that consistently across the league then what's the point.
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1421683080931184643?s=19
I still can't believe they called this shit a penalty. Absolutely robbed.
I think that fits the parameters of a "homer" call
USMNT kicking off against El Tri. Let's get it.
Ugh, Arriola... Needs to be a goal...
Something's gotta give!
Now this is a final! Fun match.
A lot of bad passes costing the US... losing possession right as they get it.
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GEEZUS! They get possession and give it up so damn fast!
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All things considered, Mexico has the much stronger lineup, we have had a good showing tonight.
Let's go get it in extra time.
Yes they have a more experienced lineup but that doesn't necessarily mean they are better. 
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GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surprised that didn't get checked for offside.
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Man, to beat Mexico in two finals in the same year is just awesome.
That awful night in Trinidad feels like ages ago.
I still can’t believe a US player got kicked in the back of the head and was only given a yellow card. VAR didn’t even bother to look at it again. That’s an immediate red regardless of intention.
US women lose to Canada in the Olympic semi... They have really not been themselves in this tournament. After starting with a 3-0 loss to start the tourney... It was clear that they were off their game this entire time.
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I still can’t believe a US player got kicked in the back of the head and was only given a yellow card. VAR didn’t even bother to look at it again. That’s an immediate red regardless of intention.
Just CONCACAF things!
Going to be super weird seeing Messi in a PSG kit…if the rumours are true.
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Going to be super weird seeing Messi in a PSG kit…if the rumours are true.
Pssst...
Use the Pro/Club Soccer thread for this.
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Going to be super weird seeing Messi in a PSG kit…if the rumours are true.
Pssst...
Use the Pro/Club Soccer thread for this.
Ah Didn’t see that one. Feel free to move it. Sorry!
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Don’t rile the boss
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We do because our benevolent overlord only likes the USMNT
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We do because our benevolent overlord only likes the USMNT
Haha OK.
Truth... I only care about the International game and not your cute little club teams taking over a soccer thread.
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Pulisic tests positive for Covid and will miss at least their next match vs. The Arse.
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World Cup Qualifying starts again tonight.
Last WCQ game we played was that embarrassing night in Trinidad. Let's get it started on a good note tonight against El Salvador.
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Looks like it was a very CONCACAF-y road game. A draw on the road to open the campaign isn't ideal, but also not catastrophic.
Held scoreless by the 64th ranked team. Only 49% possession of the ball and 2 shots on goal.
Sure hope the guys produce more offense on Sunday against Canada.
USMNT vs. Canada tonight on FS1 tonight at 7. After the draw the other night, playing Canada at home, this should be a win. Hopefully Pulisic can play, but even if he can't we should come out on top.
Welp
72% and they managed 2 SOG.
Obviously missing 2 key players didn't help but you've got to find ways to better finish.
Tomorrow night's game is going to be the most important qualifier in a while.
https://twitter.com/__adel22/status/1434962895629131776
And ugh... Weston McKennie...
You can read it all here too: https://grantwahl.substack.com/p/good-reads-landon-donovan-joins-us
Donovan: So I am privy to what happened. I'm not going to announce that publicly. I will just say, I am incredibly disappointed in Weston. Incredibly disappointed. Look, I can understand at Juventus, during a long club season, you're sitting at home for months and months and months, and you want to have people over. Is it the smartest thing to do? No, but I get it. This is one week of your life with three massive games. Not only for yourself, but for your teammates and for your country to go to a World Cup. And the level of selfishness in that moment is beyond me. Honestly, it's beyond me. I've made a lot of dumb mistakes in my life. I get it. I'm not here to be all righteous. But he is young, yes, but he's old enough to understand that you don't do this. You don't need to put yourself in this situation and worse, put your team in that situation.
Would they have won the game if he was on the field yesterday? I don't know. But their chances went up a lot, I promise, if he was on the field, and their chances of winning or getting a point in Honduras go up a ton on Wednesday if he's in the lineup. I am just really disappointed with him. It doesn't mean you write him off and he's a horrible human being. He needs to learn from this, but this can never, ever, ever happen again.
It is almost beyond repair, and he has a lot of work to do with his teammates to make sure that he never does something like that again. Because you lose trust in your teammate. This is their livelihood. These guys want to go to a World Cup. Christian knows what it feels like to sit on the field in Trinidad, crying, because he didn't go to a World Cup. And you can't put your team in that situation. So it's really disappointing. I hope he has apologized profusely. I hope he is able to make the trip on Wednesday for the game, and he needs to make amends. He really does.
Tomorrow night's game is going to be the most important qualifier in a while.
https://twitter.com/__adel22/status/1434962895629131776
And ugh... Weston McKennie...
You can read it all here too: https://grantwahl.substack.com/p/good-reads-landon-donovan-joins-us
Donovan: So I am privy to what happened. I'm not going to announce that publicly. I will just say, I am incredibly disappointed in Weston. Incredibly disappointed. Look, I can understand at Juventus, during a long club season, you're sitting at home for months and months and months, and you want to have people over. Is it the smartest thing to do? No, but I get it. This is one week of your life with three massive games. Not only for yourself, but for your teammates and for your country to go to a World Cup. And the level of selfishness in that moment is beyond me. Honestly, it's beyond me. I've made a lot of dumb mistakes in my life. I get it. I'm not here to be all righteous. But he is young, yes, but he's old enough to understand that you don't do this. You don't need to put yourself in this situation and worse, put your team in that situation.
Would they have won the game if he was on the field yesterday? I don't know. But their chances went up a lot, I promise, if he was on the field, and their chances of winning or getting a point in Honduras go up a ton on Wednesday if he's in the lineup. I am just really disappointed with him. It doesn't mean you write him off and he's a horrible human being. He needs to learn from this, but this can never, ever, ever happen again.
It is almost beyond repair, and he has a lot of work to do with his teammates to make sure that he never does something like that again. Because you lose trust in your teammate. This is their livelihood. These guys want to go to a World Cup. Christian knows what it feels like to sit on the field in Trinidad, crying, because he didn't go to a World Cup. And you can't put your team in that situation. So it's really disappointing. I hope he has apologized profusely. I hope he is able to make the trip on Wednesday for the game, and he needs to make amends. He really does.
I read that they sent McKennie back to Italy, so he will not even be with the team tomorrow. He must not be a popular person right now... Really disappointing.
Such is life for the USMNST.
Welp the USMNT is down 1-0 a quarter of the way through. They do not look well at all.
We need some goals!!! We need some goals!!!
They've had possession but miss when getting near the box. Also that pitch looks like it's in lousy shape.
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