I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
I don't see any reason to consider moving any of Bogosian, Merrill, or Middleton. All three are fine in the roles they're being asked to play. I think this coming season should be used to determine which one of Brodin or Spurgeon needs to be moved. Maybe both?I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
Let Buium spend the year in Denver dominating games and getting bigger/stronger. Let the kid go to another world juniors. See how he plays when he's expected to be the best player on the ice most nights. And, if the Wild find a way to be playing important games in April, then Buium could be a hell of an add for the playoff stretch.
I don't see any reason to consider moving any of Bogosian, Merrill, or Middleton. All three are fine in the roles they're being asked to play. I think this coming season should be used to determine which one of Brodin or Spurgeon needs to be moved. Maybe both?I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
Let Buium spend the year in Denver dominating games and getting bigger/stronger. Let the kid go to another world juniors. See how he plays when he's expected to be the best player on the ice most nights. And, if the Wild find a way to be playing important games in April, then Buium could be a hell of an add for the playoff stretch.
more mentioned those 3 as the only guys who will have option to move given spurgeon and brodin contracts are going to be tough to do so.
i think your approach is also very fair. Just think he’s ready for this level but how argument of being “the guy” for a year is also quite reasonable. The team could just use a mobile, offensively gifted guy on the back end. Don’t love burning the year for a few games, but if they don’t have ample ice time in the nhl, then yeah totally agree with keeping him at DU
I agree that the kid is probably ready for this level. I just don't see the payoff in taking the chance that he isn't. The team isn't a real contender this year, and if they do manage to take a playoff spot, the kid will be available for the important part of the season.I don't see any reason to consider moving any of Bogosian, Merrill, or Middleton. All three are fine in the roles they're being asked to play. I think this coming season should be used to determine which one of Brodin or Spurgeon needs to be moved. Maybe both?I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
Let Buium spend the year in Denver dominating games and getting bigger/stronger. Let the kid go to another world juniors. See how he plays when he's expected to be the best player on the ice most nights. And, if the Wild find a way to be playing important games in April, then Buium could be a hell of an add for the playoff stretch.
more mentioned those 3 as the only guys who will have option to move given spurgeon and brodin contracts are going to be tough to do so.
i think your approach is also very fair. Just think he’s ready for this level but how argument of being “the guy” for a year is also quite reasonable. The team could just use a mobile, offensively gifted guy on the back end. Don’t love burning the year for a few games, but if they don’t have ample ice time in the nhl, then yeah totally agree with keeping him at DU
There's also the benefit of giving Chisolm, Lambos, Peart, and O'Rourke a season to try and show that they could be a part of the plans moving forward. Would be a huge bonus for the team if any of those four could show enough to make Brodin expendable.
Spurgeon loses his NMC tomorrow
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I agree that the kid is probably ready for this level. I just don't see the payoff in taking the chance that he isn't. The team isn't a real contender this year, and if they do manage to take a playoff spot, the kid will be available for the important part of the season.I don't see any reason to consider moving any of Bogosian, Merrill, or Middleton. All three are fine in the roles they're being asked to play. I think this coming season should be used to determine which one of Brodin or Spurgeon needs to be moved. Maybe both?I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
Let Buium spend the year in Denver dominating games and getting bigger/stronger. Let the kid go to another world juniors. See how he plays when he's expected to be the best player on the ice most nights. And, if the Wild find a way to be playing important games in April, then Buium could be a hell of an add for the playoff stretch.
more mentioned those 3 as the only guys who will have option to move given spurgeon and brodin contracts are going to be tough to do so.
i think your approach is also very fair. Just think he’s ready for this level but how argument of being “the guy” for a year is also quite reasonable. The team could just use a mobile, offensively gifted guy on the back end. Don’t love burning the year for a few games, but if they don’t have ample ice time in the nhl, then yeah totally agree with keeping him at DU
There's also the benefit of giving Chisolm, Lambos, Peart, and O'Rourke a season to try and show that they could be a part of the plans moving forward. Would be a huge bonus for the team if any of those four could show enough to make Brodin expendable.
Spurgeon loses his NMC tomorrow
again fair approach. On spurgeon, i just don't see anyone being interested in his contract at 7.5AAV at ages 35-37. maybe next year or the year after given it's a shorter time period. overall the cap on D is tough with 13million going to spurgeon and Brodin (and likely about 8/year going to faber after this year) so yeah completely agree moving on from their aging contracts is probably the fastest way to a reboot on the backend.
A guy like Spurgeon would be hard to move if you're looking to free yourself completely of his cap number. Not all that difficult if you're willing to take cap back. I bet something based around Spurgeon for Laine is something that Columbus would do pretty easily. Every team has a contract or two that they would like to be rid of.I agree that the kid is probably ready for this level. I just don't see the payoff in taking the chance that he isn't. The team isn't a real contender this year, and if they do manage to take a playoff spot, the kid will be available for the important part of the season.I don't see any reason to consider moving any of Bogosian, Merrill, or Middleton. All three are fine in the roles they're being asked to play. I think this coming season should be used to determine which one of Brodin or Spurgeon needs to be moved. Maybe both?I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
Let Buium spend the year in Denver dominating games and getting bigger/stronger. Let the kid go to another world juniors. See how he plays when he's expected to be the best player on the ice most nights. And, if the Wild find a way to be playing important games in April, then Buium could be a hell of an add for the playoff stretch.
more mentioned those 3 as the only guys who will have option to move given spurgeon and brodin contracts are going to be tough to do so.
i think your approach is also very fair. Just think he’s ready for this level but how argument of being “the guy” for a year is also quite reasonable. The team could just use a mobile, offensively gifted guy on the back end. Don’t love burning the year for a few games, but if they don’t have ample ice time in the nhl, then yeah totally agree with keeping him at DU
There's also the benefit of giving Chisolm, Lambos, Peart, and O'Rourke a season to try and show that they could be a part of the plans moving forward. Would be a huge bonus for the team if any of those four could show enough to make Brodin expendable.
Spurgeon loses his NMC tomorrow
again fair approach. On spurgeon, i just don't see anyone being interested in his contract at 7.5AAV at ages 35-37. maybe next year or the year after given it's a shorter time period. overall the cap on D is tough with 13million going to spurgeon and Brodin (and likely about 8/year going to faber after this year) so yeah completely agree moving on from their aging contracts is probably the fastest way to a reboot on the backend.
Neither Spurgeon or Brodin are bad players, I just think that they're bad fits for the Wild and it would be a good idea to move on from them while you still can.
A guy like Spurgeon would be hard to move if you're looking to free yourself completely of his cap number. Not all that difficult if you're willing to take cap back. I bet something based around Spurgeon for Laine is something that Columbus would do pretty easily. Every team has a contract or two that they would like to be rid of.I agree that the kid is probably ready for this level. I just don't see the payoff in taking the chance that he isn't. The team isn't a real contender this year, and if they do manage to take a playoff spot, the kid will be available for the important part of the season.I don't see any reason to consider moving any of Bogosian, Merrill, or Middleton. All three are fine in the roles they're being asked to play. I think this coming season should be used to determine which one of Brodin or Spurgeon needs to be moved. Maybe both?I wouldn't. Next april is perfectBring him in
i guess to me depends on if they could move any of bogosian, merrill or middleton. there are nhl minutes there to be had. Now if it's AHL, then yeah absolutely leave him in college. outside of faber, this team is extremely old on the back end and with really minimal offensive punch. Buium would provide youth and instant offense and personally think he's better than multiple of them right now, especially with how the leagues changed and become less focused on the physical aspect of things.
in any regard, absolutely love the pick and feels like a huge steal they got him there.
Let Buium spend the year in Denver dominating games and getting bigger/stronger. Let the kid go to another world juniors. See how he plays when he's expected to be the best player on the ice most nights. And, if the Wild find a way to be playing important games in April, then Buium could be a hell of an add for the playoff stretch.
more mentioned those 3 as the only guys who will have option to move given spurgeon and brodin contracts are going to be tough to do so.
i think your approach is also very fair. Just think he’s ready for this level but how argument of being “the guy” for a year is also quite reasonable. The team could just use a mobile, offensively gifted guy on the back end. Don’t love burning the year for a few games, but if they don’t have ample ice time in the nhl, then yeah totally agree with keeping him at DU
There's also the benefit of giving Chisolm, Lambos, Peart, and O'Rourke a season to try and show that they could be a part of the plans moving forward. Would be a huge bonus for the team if any of those four could show enough to make Brodin expendable.
Spurgeon loses his NMC tomorrow
again fair approach. On spurgeon, i just don't see anyone being interested in his contract at 7.5AAV at ages 35-37. maybe next year or the year after given it's a shorter time period. overall the cap on D is tough with 13million going to spurgeon and Brodin (and likely about 8/year going to faber after this year) so yeah completely agree moving on from their aging contracts is probably the fastest way to a reboot on the backend.
Neither Spurgeon or Brodin are bad players, I just think that they're bad fits for the Wild and it would be a good idea to move on from them while you still can.
i think therein is really the whole issue with the wild. lots of guys on big contracts (and especially lots of older guys on that late career contract) that have very different styles of play. and yeah i agree they need to find a way to breathe some fresh life into this team somewhere, though they may just end up running back the exact same roster and get out from under the dead cap which is reasonable (though i'd rather they would've "tanked" instead of signed a bunch of vets to long contracts)
@upnorthkid I don't see any value in bringing him in right away. From the standpoint of making the Wild the best possible team next year & accumulating the most points I don't see his addition to the lineup and who he would replace as well as how is minutes are used netting the Wild many if any points. So from that standpoint I don't see the angle.
From his development standpoint would he develop more playing a second season in Denver or with the Wild? He will be 18 for just about half this upcoming season, he is very young. He pretty much knows given something unforeseen that he will be playing in the NHL this April at some point. There are a lot of positive "distractions" as he heads into his Sophomore season that are all great for maturing and developing as he manages those. Keeping your focus in the moment, Denver, World Juniors, ect. while you know you will play in the NHL shortly. Defending champs and coming back after a huge Freshman season, ect. He will have a lot going on this year and be looked to help carry Denver and Team USA.
If this all pans out this is the Wild's #1 defensemen for the foreseeable future. No real reason in my opinion to have him with the Wild this Fall.
@upnorthkid I don't see any value in bringing him in right away. From the standpoint of making the Wild the best possible team next year & accumulating the most points I don't see his addition to the lineup and who he would replace as well as how is minutes are used netting the Wild many if any points. So from that standpoint I don't see the angle.
From his development standpoint would he develop more playing a second season in Denver or with the Wild? He will be 18 for just about half this upcoming season, he is very young. He pretty much knows given something unforeseen that he will be playing in the NHL this April at some point. There are a lot of positive "distractions" as he heads into his Sophomore season that are all great for maturing and developing as he manages those. Keeping your focus in the moment, Denver, World Juniors, ect. while you know you will play in the NHL shortly. Defending champs and coming back after a huge Freshman season, ect. He will have a lot going on this year and be looked to help carry Denver and Team USA.
If this all pans out this is the Wild's #1 defensemen for the foreseeable future. No real reason in my opinion to have him with the Wild this Fall.
from this point, I disagree but I also get your sentiment (really would see him adding a ton on the PP from the back end as well as add some much needed transition offense so we aren't constantly relying on scoring off sustained zone time given the league has really changed to being much more "on the rush" oriented). Regardless he and Faber should be a great duo to have for a long time to come.
Development wise, yeah unless he's playing top 4 minutes and PP time, yes I completely agree you're better off with him playing at Denver.
@upnorthkid So would you have him assuming Faber's role on the top PP? And if he did is he going to be so much better than Faber this season that it will translate to more points in the standings? I don't really see him making a huge net+ difference as an 18 year old trying to learn the ropes in the NHL. Remember he would have to take someone's spot on the 10th PP in the NHL last year and then make such a positive impact above & beyond for that to translate to points in the standings.
It just makes sense IMO to let him play one more year in Denver and join up with the Wild this Spring.
Let's transition the discussion to the new thread.
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