This is one of your posts from last season.
Just to clarify. Your latest argument is that it's much better for the future of the Wild to trade a 25 year old 85 point player, than it would be to trade three 30 year old plugs? Really?
So answer your own question which three 30 year old plugs were you referring to and if they are plugs I repeat why would other teams want to take them and help us keep Fiala?
Why would a team be willing to trade for Marcus Foligno coming off of a career high 23 goals and 42 points?This is one of your posts from last season.
Just to clarify. Your latest argument is that it's much better for the future of the Wild to trade a 25 year old 85 point player, than it would be to trade three 30 year old plugs? Really?
So answer your own question which three 30 year old plugs were you referring to and if they are plugs I repeat why would other teams want to take them and help us keep Fiala?
Kulikov actually did get traded, so I guess he doesn't fit your theory. Goligoski and Fleury fit the bill as plugs, but they wouldn't have had to be traded if Guerin had been smart enough to not re-sign them in the first place.
Take those four "plugs" off the roster this summer, and Fiala fits easily.
Edit- I completely blanked on Jost. He would most certainly fit the criteria of a plug that would've been difficult to trade.
The Wild started this season with a little over $4M in cap space-
Don't sign Goligoski and let Mermis take his place in the press box $1.25M saved
Don't sign Fleury and let McIntyre be the terrible backup goalie. $2.75M saved
Don't trade for Jost in the 1st place and let Shaw or Steel be the 13th forward 1.25M saved
Look at that, there's enough money for Fiala and you didn't even have to move Foligno or Greenway.
@Eric-Vegoe I like your "I know there are a lot of GMs in training out there" line. Well played.
When do NHL teams start the bidding war? It's clearly only a matter of time. ?
They would clearly never sign a player to a bad contract or make a bad trade since they know how everything is going to work out even before it does. That is knowledge that is invaluable to have.
GMs in training: Have crystal ball. Will travel.
I'm still waiting to hear about all the Dumba offers! ?
Lead the team in ice time once again last night. Wild must be tired of having to keep playing him more than anyone else on the team. I'm sure it was just Brodin covering for him all night though.I'm still waiting to hear about all the Dumba offers! ?
There are currently 56 defensemen that have played at least 1000 minutes at 5X5 this season. Of those 56 players, only Hampus Lindholm from the Bruins has been on the ice for fewer goals against that Dumba.
Why would a team be willing to trade for Marcus Foligno coming off of a career high 23 goals and 42 points?This is one of your posts from last season.
Just to clarify. Your latest argument is that it's much better for the future of the Wild to trade a 25 year old 85 point player, than it would be to trade three 30 year old plugs? Really?
So answer your own question which three 30 year old plugs were you referring to and if they are plugs I repeat why would other teams want to take them and help us keep Fiala?
Kulikov actually did get traded, so I guess he doesn't fit your theory. Goligoski and Fleury fit the bill as plugs, but they wouldn't have had to be traded if Guerin had been smart enough to not re-sign them in the first place.
Take those four "plugs" off the roster this summer, and Fiala fits easily.
Edit- I completely blanked on Jost. He would most certainly fit the criteria of a plug that would've been difficult to trade.
The Wild started this season with a little over $4M in cap space-
Don't sign Goligoski and let Mermis take his place in the press box $1.25M saved
Don't sign Fleury and let McIntyre be the terrible backup goalie. $2.75M saved
Don't trade for Jost in the 1st place and let Shaw or Steel be the 13th forward 1.25M saved
Look at that, there's enough money for Fiala and you didn't even have to move Foligno or Greenway.
Your solution would have worked for the first year. Would Fiala have signed a 1-year contract?
What part of that doesn't work for next year and beyond?Why would a team be willing to trade for Marcus Foligno coming off of a career high 23 goals and 42 points?This is one of your posts from last season.
Just to clarify. Your latest argument is that it's much better for the future of the Wild to trade a 25 year old 85 point player, than it would be to trade three 30 year old plugs? Really?
So answer your own question which three 30 year old plugs were you referring to and if they are plugs I repeat why would other teams want to take them and help us keep Fiala?
Kulikov actually did get traded, so I guess he doesn't fit your theory. Goligoski and Fleury fit the bill as plugs, but they wouldn't have had to be traded if Guerin had been smart enough to not re-sign them in the first place.
Take those four "plugs" off the roster this summer, and Fiala fits easily.
Edit- I completely blanked on Jost. He would most certainly fit the criteria of a plug that would've been difficult to trade.
The Wild started this season with a little over $4M in cap space-
Don't sign Goligoski and let Mermis take his place in the press box $1.25M saved
Don't sign Fleury and let McIntyre be the terrible backup goalie. $2.75M saved
Don't trade for Jost in the 1st place and let Shaw or Steel be the 13th forward 1.25M saved
Look at that, there's enough money for Fiala and you didn't even have to move Foligno or Greenway.
Your solution would have worked for the first year. Would Fiala have signed a 1-year contract?
What part of that doesn't work for next year and beyond?
The part where Matt Boldy starts making $7M and they have to make decisions on Gaudreau, Duhaim, Shaw, Addison, Gustavsson to fill out a 23 man roster. Those players will all be looking for raises and the cap hit for Parise/Suter increases another $2M.
My hypothetical doesn't change any of that. They would be in the same spot that they are now.What part of that doesn't work for next year and beyond?
The part where Matt Boldy starts making $7M and they have to make decisions on Gaudreau, Duhaim, Shaw, Addison, Gustavsson to fill out a 23 man roster. Those players will all be looking for raises and the cap hit for Parise/Suter increases another $2M.
I seem too remember a lot of the GMs around here wondering how the Wild would make the playoffs...there must be a glitch in the standings!
Lol, this team is in a prime spot in the Bedard sweepstakes without 97 and Gus.
Would anybody even watch these guys without 97?
I seem too remember a lot of the GMs around here wondering how the Wild would make the playoffs...there must be a glitch in the standings!
Lol, this team is in a prime spot in the Bedard sweepstakes without 97 and Gus.
Would anybody even watch these guys without 97?
Could you say that about a few other teams if you took away their 2 best players? You build the team around what you have.
I seem too remember a lot of the GMs around here wondering how the Wild would make the playoffs...there must be a glitch in the standings!
Lol, this team is in a prime spot in the Bedard sweepstakes without 97 and Gus.
Would anybody even watch these guys without 97?
So we would be bad without good players? That's your comeback? 😉
Of course every team would be hurt by losing their best F for instance, but as many would free-fall out of existence as badly as the Wild would without KK. They're extremely paper thin I don't see them pushing any team in the first round. Hope I'm wrong.
Of course every team would be hurt by losing their best F for instance, but as many would free-fall out of existence as badly as the Wild would without KK. They're extremely paper thin I don't see them pushing any team in the first round. Hope I'm wrong.
This year's installment of the Manka—...er...Minnesota Wild is to win by trying not to lose.
They've been on a nice winning streak along with a few other teams that have some pretty flashy offensive numbers. The Wild ranks low into the high 30s for offense, so it's a bit of a minor, if not boring, miracle that they're in playoff contention at all.
The Wild are 13th in the western conference in goals scored per game (2.77) and are 2nd in the western conference in goals against per game (2.66).
Obviously, it would be great if they scored more goals but when you are second in the conference in goals against per game you are likely going to win a lot of games and figure to make the playoffs.
Greenway to BUF
2 in 23, 5 in 24
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
Huh.
Now they get Sundqvist?
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
Billy "wheelin-n-dealin" Guerin is the Ric Flair of GMs. If you don't like a move he makes just wait 15 minutes he will make another.
https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1503132201008906247
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
apparently 8 min seeing the post below yours.Billy "wheelin-n-dealin" Guerin is the Ric Flair of GMs. If you don't like a move he makes just wait 15 minutes he will make another.
https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1503132201008906247
Johansson actually looking pretty serviceable so far tonight. Klingberg looks good too.
Klingberg takes a lot of chances to jump up with the forwards. Hasn’t burned him yet.Johansson actually looking pretty serviceable so far tonight. Klingberg looks good too.
Might be the best I've seen this team all season. Absolute shut down defense.
I've always liked Klingberg so very happy to see him in the lineup. Pleasant surprise to see him in and Greenway bye bye.
On a night that Zuc and Kaprisov looked ordinary, the other guys picked them up. Suddenly this team is better and will be even better when Brodin is back.
#Fire Guerin ?
I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
The Wild's current standings spot was never on my preseason bingo card. Good for them.
I know a lot can change quickly but they have exceeded my expectations this year already.
Gustavsson is 2nd in the league in GAA at 1.99, 2nd in the league in saves % at .933 and is 24 years old.
Guerin absolutely stole him.
Talbot is 26th in the league in GAA at 2.85, is tied for 26th in the league in saves % at .905 and is 35 years old.
Imagine where the Wild would be if Talbot never told Guerin to go F himself?Gustavsson is 2nd in the league in GAA at 1.99, 2nd in the league in saves % at .933 and is 24 years old.
Guerin absolutely stole him.
Talbot is 26th in the league in GAA at 2.85, is tied for 26th in the league in saves % at .905 and is 35 years old.
Kaprizov and Zuccarello were terrible last night and the team still controlled the whole game. Great to see Boldy show up. Sure would be nice if Johansson is good enough to let Boldy feel like he has someone to work with. That kid has the potential to be so good, and it sucks to see him have to play with absolute plugs. Klingberg is everything that Addison should be trying to become. If you're not good defensively, make up for it by trying to provide offense.
For as much as I dislike Guerin, I think he did a really good job again at the deadline.
Guerin was looking for goalies to replace Talbot longer before Talbot asked to be traded. That is why he traded for Fluery last year. The reason Talbot got butt hurt was because he knew his days were numbered. Guerin wasn't going to resign him so it was only a matter of time before he got traded and he did a great job of getting Gustavsson in return.
Guerin had every intention of playing the season with Fleury and Talbot as his goaliesGuerin was looking for goalies to replace Talbot longer before Talbot asked to be traded. That is why he traded for Fluery last year. The reason Talbot got butt hurt was because he knew his days were numbered. Guerin wasn't going to resign him so it was only a matter of time before he got traded and he did a great job of getting Gustavsson in return.
Talbot is on the last year of his deal and Guerin clearly had no plans to resign him so trading him at some point this season was always a possibility. Guerin got great value in return.
And none of what you said has anything to do with the fact that Guerin had no intention of trading Talbot until Talbot himself told Guerin that he wasn't going to play for him.Talbot is on the last year of his deal and Guerin clearly had no plans to resign him so trading him at some point this season was always a possibility. Guerin got great value in return.
Guerin certainly deserves credit for ending up with Gustavsson, but pretending that he planned it all to work out the way it did, is simply a lie. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good.
Guerin was looking for goalies to replace Talbot longer before Talbot asked to be traded. That is why he traded for Fluery last year. The reason Talbot got butt hurt was because he knew his days were numbered. Guerin wasn't going to resign him so it was only a matter of time before he got traded and he did a great job of getting Gustavsson in return.
100%, no he wasn't.
It was on his watch and he made the move so good on him. But it 100% was because Cam forced the issue.
Haters gonna hate
Then Cam is an idiot...
Talbot watched Guerin hand his job to Fleury, and while doing so called Talbot out in the press with a comment about not giving a shit about what Talbot thinks. And, if Talbot had a problem with it, he should just play better and take his job back from Fleury. Talbot did exactly that, and then watched Fleury play in the playoffs. Hard to Blame Talbot for not having much respect for Guerin after that.Then Cam is an idiot...
This is progress for you! Good job!Imagine where the Wild would be if Talbot never told Guerin to go F himself?Gustavsson is 2nd in the league in GAA at 1.99, 2nd in the league in saves % at .933 and is 24 years old.
Guerin absolutely stole him.
Talbot is 26th in the league in GAA at 2.85, is tied for 26th in the league in saves % at .905 and is 35 years old.
Kaprizov and Zuccarello were terrible last night and the team still controlled the whole game. Great to see Boldy show up. Sure would be nice if Johansson is good enough to let Boldy feel like he has someone to work with. That kid has the potential to be so good, and it sucks to see him have to play with absolute plugs. Klingberg is everything that Addison should be trying to become. If you're not good defensively, make up for it by trying to provide offense.
For as much as I dislike Guerin, I think he did a really good job again at the deadline.
Talbot’s wife dug out the rest of his grave by opening her yap on Twitter.Talbot watched Guerin hand his job to Fleury, and while doing so called Talbot out in the press with a comment about not giving a shit about what Talbot thinks. And, if Talbot had a problem with it, he should just play better and take his job back from Fleury. Talbot did exactly that, and then watched Fleury play in the playoffs. Hard to Blame Talbot for not having much respect for Guerin after that.Then Cam is an idiot...
Ironic that you think Talbot's wife talking shit in the media was the problemTalbot’s wife dug out the rest of his grave by opening her yap on Twitter.Talbot watched Guerin hand his job to Fleury, and while doing so called Talbot out in the press with a comment about not giving a shit about what Talbot thinks. And, if Talbot had a problem with it, he should just play better and take his job back from Fleury. Talbot did exactly that, and then watched Fleury play in the playoffs. Hard to Blame Talbot for not having much respect for Guerin after that.Then Cam is an idiot...
Talbot’s wife dug out the rest of his grave by opening her yap on Twitter.
Always scratch my head when significant others go to Twitter or social media and open their pie holes and just make things more uncomfortable.
Keep your stick on the ice...
Ironic that you think Talbot's wife talking shit in the media was the problemTalbot’s wife dug out the rest of his grave by opening her yap on Twitter.Talbot watched Guerin hand his job to Fleury, and while doing so called Talbot out in the press with a comment about not giving a shit about what Talbot thinks. And, if Talbot had a problem with it, he should just play better and take his job back from Fleury. Talbot did exactly that, and then watched Fleury play in the playoffs. Hard to Blame Talbot for not having much respect for Guerin after that.Then Cam is an idiot...
Why exactly is that ironic?
Because Guerin talking tough in the media was the real problem. That and the fact that he's full of shit.Ironic that you think Talbot's wife talking shit in the media was the problemTalbot’s wife dug out the rest of his grave by opening her yap on Twitter.Talbot watched Guerin hand his job to Fleury, and while doing so called Talbot out in the press with a comment about not giving a shit about what Talbot thinks. And, if Talbot had a problem with it, he should just play better and take his job back from Fleury. Talbot did exactly that, and then watched Fleury play in the playoffs. Hard to Blame Talbot for not having much respect for Guerin after that.Then Cam is an idiot...
Why exactly is that ironic?
Talbot's ol lady certainly didn't smooth things out, but hard to be too mad at them after the way Talbot got screwed.
LOL. Guerin is the damn GM and is ASKED to speak about players daily. It part of his job.
Kelly Talbot is a nobody who is married to an NHL player who went online and implied they were looking to move to another team while he was still under contract with the Wild. If Guerin intended to play Cam as you write, she may have inflicted strike three.
There is no irony.
You can't possibly think that it would be hard for a GM to talk about a trade without throwing one of his players under the bus? really?LOL. Guerin is the damn GM and is ASKED to speak about players daily. It part of his job.
Kelly Talbot is a nobody who is married to an NHL player who went online and implied they were looking to move to another team while he was still under contract with the Wild. If Guerin intended to play Cam as you write, she may have inflicted strike three.
There is no irony.
Over the past 5 seasons Talbot has played 35, 26, 33, 49, and 32 games. He is not a #1 goalie. He got to play more games last season because they didn't have confidence in Kaapo.
Guerin has been looking to upgrade at goalie for the past two seasons. It's not a conscience he traded away both of the goalies from last season. There is a reason Talbot keeps bouncing from team to team. Ottawa is his 6th team.
Who was the better goalie for the Wild last season, Talbot or Fleury?Over the past 5 seasons Talbot has played 35, 26, 33, 49, and 32 games. He is not a #1 goalie. He got to play more games last season because they didn't have confidence in Kaapo.
Guerin has been looking to upgrade at goalie for the past two seasons. It's not a conscience he traded away both of the goalies from last season. There is a reason Talbot keeps bouncing from team to team. Ottawa is his 6th team.