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Wild trade Gaudreau to Seattle.
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Wild trade Gaudreau to Seattle.
A 4th rounder?
Apparently they don't need any centers.
I would assume that this is just to clear a roster spot and a little bit of salary for an upgraded version of Gaudreau. Russo has been talking about JG Pageau from the Islanders for a couple of days.Wild trade Gaudreau to Seattle.
A 4th rounder?
Apparently they don't need any centers.
Trading for guys who are slightly overpaid for their talents seems like the only realistic road for the Wild to take at this point.
To me the chance they’ll trade Rossi just decreased. And while somebody could sign Rossi to an offer sheet the Wild would have to consider matching, if that’s not the case Rossi is a RFA & not arbitration eligible. So in the end he’d have very few options other than playing for the Wild next season.Wild trade Gaudreau to Seattle.
A 4th rounder?
Apparently they don't need any centers.
I have no idea what the Wild are doing. This sure doesn’t seem to be ramping up to be the "finally" off-season we have all been waiting for.
To be fair, I dont have any great ideas.
Maybe I am going to be shocked in the month.
I have no idea what the Wild are doing. This sure doesn’t seem to be ramping up to be the "finally" off-season we have all been waiting for.
To be fair, I dont have any great ideas.
Maybe I am going to be shocked in the month.
I was going to mention that. The Suter-Parise yoke is finally lifted and the Wild are pulling a Motzko.
I have no idea what the Wild are doing. This sure doesn’t seem to be ramping up to be the "finally" off-season we have all been waiting for.
To be fair, I dont have any great ideas.
Maybe I am going to be shocked in the month.
I was going to mention that. The Suter-Parise yoke is finally lifted and the Wild are pulling a Motzko.
???
I have no idea what the Wild are doing. This sure doesn’t seem to be ramping up to be the "finally" off-season we have all been waiting for.
To be fair, I dont have any great ideas.
Maybe I am going to be shocked in the month.
I was going to mention that. The Suter-Parise yoke is finally lifted and the Wild are pulling a Motzko.
???
Both the Wild and the Gophers seem to be struggling a bit to optimize their rosters, despite their apparent advantages.
This is definitely not an area of expertise for me, but doesn't appear the Wild have any advantage with regards to cap space. They are right in the middle of the pack for available cap space at $15.9M, but they still have players to sign, with Kaprisov expected to get a sizable bump in pay. It sounds like Guerin pissed away a chunk of the cap resining player recently (with no trade clauses). I think J22 recently said the Wild may have room to sign a decent free agent but nothing too splashy.I have no idea what the Wild are doing. This sure doesn’t seem to be ramping up to be the "finally" off-season we have all been waiting for.
To be fair, I dont have any great ideas.
Maybe I am going to be shocked in the month.
I was going to mention that. The Suter-Parise yoke is finally lifted and the Wild are pulling a Motzko.
???
Both the Wild and the Gophers seem to be struggling a bit to optimize their rosters, despite their apparent advantages.
They appear to have great need for centers. They also need to figure out how to use Rossi and Buium because those playoff line ups were not the answer.
https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/cap
This is definitely not an area of expertise for me, but doesn't appear the Wild have any advantage with regards to cap space. They are right in the middle of the pack for available cap space at $15.9M, but they still have players to sign, with Kaprisov expected to get a sizable bump in pay. It sounds like Guerin pissed away a chunk of the cap resining player recently (with no trade clauses). I think J22 recently said the Wild may have room to sign a decent free agent but nothing too splashy.I have no idea what the Wild are doing. This sure doesn’t seem to be ramping up to be the "finally" off-season we have all been waiting for.
To be fair, I dont have any great ideas.
Maybe I am going to be shocked in the month.
I was going to mention that. The Suter-Parise yoke is finally lifted and the Wild are pulling a Motzko.
???
Both the Wild and the Gophers seem to be struggling a bit to optimize their rosters, despite their apparent advantages.
They appear to have great need for centers. They also need to figure out how to use Rossi and Buium because those playoff line ups were not the answer.
https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/cap
yep though they're finally out from under the Suter-Parise situation, they've saw half of that gone with Faber moving to his bigger deal post rookie contract this year so fell back to the pack. KK will get a raise that will be somewhere in the 12-14 range and you should absolutely pay him that now on a long deal if you can as the cap is going up and he's only going to be more expensive on the next deal (part of why the Boldy and Faber deals will be a OK long term). Leaves you with probably about 12-14mil left for helping the roster as Yurov's contract isn't on the books on Spotrac yet. You also need to decide what you're doing with Gus which will eat into that cap
You're spot on that the sunk money with 13.5mil in Spurgeon and Brodin who are both aging and 12 mil on Hartman, Foligno and Zucc and a really weird contract on Trenin in terms of length for that price. Kind of a crossroads in terms of what you do. If they get KK to the long extension, tbh I am fine if they just add modestly and would be ok if we miss the playoffs and shop guys like Spurgeon, Brodin, Foligno, Hartman at the deadline. The class isn't great for adds for MN and I'd rather they not overpay someone like Tavares who's on the decline when next year's class may have some mega guns coming to market down the middle and on the wing.
I just don't see this team having enough to win in the postseason in terms of depth, and there's not really a way to do that without getting rid of some of the older fading weight nor enough out there in this year's FA market that gives you what you need unless multiple guys are going to give you big discounts or you can trade some of these guys with NMC that I have no idea why they gave them to them.
I think Wild fans are probably end up being pretty underwhelmed this offseason with a relative running it back plus a guy or two (Yurov not included). The way Guerin has structured the contracts to come due really hasn't made any sense especially with the NMC in them.
Guerin is nothing more than a bullshitter. Can give a great quote, but has yet to actually back any of it up. Would probably be a great politician. He got by for years with his idiotic buyouts as his excuse to not be able to do his job. Now he's going to have to figure out a different angle to sell Leipold/the fan base.
The only way to make this team an actual contender will be through trades. I don't see any reason to believe that Guerin is the guy to be able to do that. The fact that he seems like he actually wants to bring Spurgeon and Brodin back for another season shows just how lost he is.
I know many people like Spurgeon and Brodin but I don’t at all. I’m fine with one of them but we don’t need two small defenders who can’t impose physical deterrence come playoffs.
i still have trauma from playing the Ducks in the Western Conference Finals and getting wiped out by big physical defenseman.
Guerin is a clown.
I know many people like Spurgeon and Brodin but I don’t at all. I’m fine with one of them but we don’t need two small defenders who can’t impose physical deterrence come playoffs.
i still have trauma from playing the Ducks in the Western Conference Finals and getting wiped out by big physical defenseman.
I’m fine with Brodin, he’s steady and good on the breakout. This would be a great time to trade Spurgeon and give KK the C. I would think that if they could find a taker for Spurgeon’s contract they would so maybe there’s no takers.
A Spurgeon trade would likely require either the Wild retaining some of his salary, or the getting an overpriced contract in return. The Wild have enough cap space to do either, but it wouldn't make much sense to give him away unless you have his replacement. Including him as part of a trade for a guy like Elias Petterson or Mika Zibanejad is most likely how it would happen. On his own, he has negative trade value.I know many people like Spurgeon and Brodin but I don’t at all. I’m fine with one of them but we don’t need two small defenders who can’t impose physical deterrence come playoffs.
i still have trauma from playing the Ducks in the Western Conference Finals and getting wiped out by big physical defenseman.
I’m fine with Brodin, he’s steady and good on the breakout. This would be a great time to trade Spurgeon and give KK the C. I would think that if they could find a taker for Spurgeon’s contract they would so maybe there’s no takers.
Would the Wild have cap room/interest for Ekblad should he become available?
I think Ekblad is going to end up with a really bad contract this summer and wouldn't want the Wild to be the team to give it to him.Would the Wild have cap room/interest for Ekblad should he become available?
That being said, getting rid of Spurgeon and replacing him with Ekblad is exactly what the Wild needs
So The X is now "Grand Casino Arena" ?
"The Slot" ?
Gack.
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I am so tired on the sports gambling being shoved down our throats from every angle. Yet another reason for me to continue to care less and less about our local franchises.
It's a sports gambling TV channel, if you want to watch, full of sports gambling ads, played at a gambling named arena, with sports gambling ads on the boards and on the concourses. Then try and tell me nothing is fixed... Sure it probably isn't, but it's not a great look, and doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
I am so tired on the sports gambling being shoved down our throats from every angle. Yet another reason for me to continue to care less and less about our local franchises.
It's a sports gambling TV channel, if you want to watch, full of sports gambling ads, played at a gambling named arena, with sports gambling ads on the boards and on the concourses. Then try and tell me nothing is fixed... Sure it probably isn't, but it's not a great look, and doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
at some point, the leagues are going to need to take it seriously when a deranged fan who lost a bet on a player kills someone or harms someone. The threats these guys face in rising numbers is ridiculous and it's horrible branding to have things sponsored by industries that are a direct result of how the guys on the ice do.
for most yeah it's all in good fun, but the look of associating the league, arenas, current players, etc. with something that they may directly impact (like Lebron doing ads for sports gambling) is just asking for it to get more and more problematic from a PR standpoint when something inevitably happens
not to mention but my god i do not care TNT that this is what the live over/under is and its so effing annoying that all you talk about for portions of intermissions are Bizzy's bets
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Great trade if it is 2018. Guerin loves to get older or slower. He seems to prefer both.
IMO- this is exactly the kind of trade that Guerin needed to make. Not sure this is the player you want to gamble on, but hope for the best I guess. Just have to hope that he's more like Eric Staal than Gustav Nyquist.
This certainly isn't what Guerin/Leipold have been promising for 4 years coming. Have to wonder when they start to feel the heat?
I am so tired on the sports gambling being shoved down our throats from every angle. Yet another reason for me to continue to care less and less about our local franchises.
It's a sports gambling TV channel, if you want to watch, full of sports gambling ads, played at a gambling named arena, with sports gambling ads on the boards and on the concourses. Then try and tell me nothing is fixed... Sure it probably isn't, but it's not a great look, and doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
at some point, the leagues are going to need to take it seriously when a deranged fan who lost a bet on a player kills someone or harms someone. The threats these guys face in rising numbers is ridiculous and it's horrible branding to have things sponsored by industries that are a direct result of how the guys on the ice do.
for most yeah it's all in good fun, but the look of associating the league, arenas, current players, etc. with something that they may directly impact (like Lebron doing ads for sports gambling) is just asking for it to get more and more problematic from a PR standpoint when something inevitably happens
not to mention but my god i do not care TNT that this is what the live over/under is and its so effing annoying that all you talk about for portions of intermissions are Bizzy's bets
I guess for me it really doesn't bother me. I'm a non gambler ( except my $50 fantasy football league ) and what stadiums or tv stations are called doesn't move the needle for me. It's not like I'm going to go out and buy a Grand Casino Arena shirt and wear it around or when they say Fan Duel on TV go to their website. I also could not name what the arenas around most leagues are called now, and I would probably just call them by their original name, like Mariucci Arena. For example, I was in St Louis for the FF and I can not tell you what the name of the hockey arena is named. I just call it the home of the Blues. I guess one could argue if you have a gambling addition, hearing those names could trigger you, and I have sympathy for those people, but the same could be said for stadiums named after alcohol.
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# UNDERWHELMING. Evidently Billy couldn’t sell BOESER on returning home to MN. If they don’t finish beyond a Wild Card & win a playoff series, it should be open season on Billy ‘s arse!IMO- this is exactly the kind of trade that Guerin needed to make. Not sure this is the player you want to gamble on, but hope for the best I guess. Just have to hope that he's more like Eric Staal than Gustav Nyquist.
This certainly isn't what Guerin/Leipold have been promising for 4 years coming. Have to wonder when they start to feel the heat?
I am so tired on the sports gambling being shoved down our throats from every angle. Yet another reason for me to continue to care less and less about our local franchises.
It's a sports gambling TV channel, if you want to watch, full of sports gambling ads, played at a gambling named arena, with sports gambling ads on the boards and on the concourses. Then try and tell me nothing is fixed... Sure it probably isn't, but it's not a great look, and doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
I will be interested to see how the MSCHL handles the new name during the hockey tournaments. Probably not something they want to promote....
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IMO- this is exactly the kind of trade that Guerin needed to make. Not sure this is the player you want to gamble on, but hope for the best I guess. Just have to hope that he's more like Eric Staal than Gustav Nyquist.
This certainly isn't what Guerin/Leipold have been promising for 4 years coming. Have to wonder when they start to feel the heat?
Agree I think this deal is fine. Don't over marry yourself to a long term shitty deal to someone in a market that's tight or doesn't address your needs.
This offseason is get KK his extension and raise. If you can swing someone for a 1C, do it. Otherwise play it out with resigning Rossi if you can to a moderate deal or getting a fill in center on a short term deal and you bide your time for next year. This isn't a slap bandaids time like we've been doing for years, you want the full fix even if that means this year we're not winning a cup again. If you overachieve first half, you can try take a big swing at the deadline and make a run for it with a real 1C coming from someone out of contention
Boeser is pretty much perfect for what the Wild need, but I wouldn't even consider him at the prices I've heard thrown around. He's a $6M player IMO, and there's rumors up to $9M for him.# UNDERWHELMING. Evidently Billy couldn’t sell BOESER on returning home to MN. If they don’t finish beyond a Wild Card & win a playoff series, it should be open season on Billy ‘s arse!IMO- this is exactly the kind of trade that Guerin needed to make. Not sure this is the player you want to gamble on, but hope for the best I guess. Just have to hope that he's more like Eric Staal than Gustav Nyquist.
This certainly isn't what Guerin/Leipold have been promising for 4 years coming. Have to wonder when they start to feel the heat?
Boeser is pretty much perfect for what the Wild need, but I wouldn't even consider him at the prices I've heard thrown around. He's a $6M player IMO, and there's rumors up to $9M for him.# UNDERWHELMING. Evidently Billy couldn’t sell BOESER on returning home to MN. If they don’t finish beyond a Wild Card & win a playoff series, it should be open season on Billy ‘s arse!IMO- this is exactly the kind of trade that Guerin needed to make. Not sure this is the player you want to gamble on, but hope for the best I guess. Just have to hope that he's more like Eric Staal than Gustav Nyquist.
This certainly isn't what Guerin/Leipold have been promising for 4 years coming. Have to wonder when they start to feel the heat?
agree feels like many are paying for that 73 point year rather than the 50point player he's been every other year.
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I guess I pay less attention to the org than I thought as Rossi is the only player there I recognize.
btw Nico Sturm was quoted in the Athletic as saying he would welcome a return to MN.
O'Roarke was a 2nd round draft pick taken about 10 spots ahead of Faber in their draft year. Was a good junior player but hasn't done anything in Iowa. The rest of the names on that list aren't NHL prospects.I guess I pay less attention to the org than I thought as Rossi is the only player there I recognize.
btw Nico Sturm was quoted in the Athletic as saying he would welcome a return to MN.
I fully expect the Wild to sign Sturm today. Seems like the obvious choice to be the new #4 center
It was fun while it lasted. 🤣
https://twitter.com/canucks/status/1940086116364988596?s=46&t=UoTCikmOZyJ29kktoNzh-A
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Nico Sturm returns to his original NHL team, signing a two-year, $4 million contract ($2 million AAV).
4th line penalty killing C - ✔️
So, assuming they resign Kaprisov and no other trades or FA signings, is this a better team than last year?
It certainly wasn't the big upgrade I expected to see when the Parise and Suter cap hits dissolved. Not sure it was worth the wait.
They have a chance to be better, dependent on how good the young kids are. Problem is, they have a coach who has no idea how to handle the kids.So, assuming they resign Kaprisov and no other trades or FA signings, is this a better team than last year?
It certainly wasn't the big upgrade I expected to see when the Parise and Suter cap hits dissolved. Not sure it was worth the wait.
In the grand scheme, non of it really matters until they get a legitimate top 6 center and get rid of Brodin and Spurgeon. Until that happens, it's all just Guerin spinning excuses.
So, assuming they resign Kaprisov and no other trades or FA signings, is this a better team than last year?
It certainly wasn't the big upgrade I expected to see when the Parise and Suter cap hits dissolved. Not sure it was worth the wait.
well in part they already spent almost half of it with Faber moving off his rookie deal. KK is going to eat another 4-5 mil of it. again i'd rather they bank that cap if the right player isn't there or you can't swing a trade. we still are too bottom 6 level talent heavy in a market there are basically no top flight centers available in. Little disappointing but also am happy we're not being dumb and just throwing money at marginal guys as the money we have spent has at least been on guys who have expiring contracts or relatively team friendly deals.
That said, I can't see anything that would make me excited to come back if I was KK at this point.
So, assuming they resign Kaprisov and no other trades or FA signings, is this a better team than last year?
It certainly wasn't the big upgrade I expected to see when the Parise and Suter cap hits dissolved. Not sure it was worth the wait.
Last year, right around the trade deadline, Guerin said "It's not our time."
Now this year's FA class... "It's not our time."
My guess is next year it won't be our time yet either.
Good enough to make the playoffs, not good enough to scare anybody. The comfortable, mushy middle. That's the Minnesota Wild way. 25 years of this franchise, 14 playoff appearances, made it out of the first round 3 times, and once to the Conference finals.
That said, I can't see anything that would make me excited to come back if I was KK at this point.
KK will be paid no matter where he goes. He's right at that point in his career that playing for a team with a chance to win a Cup should be a huge magnet. You know, the anti-Joe Mauer attitude.
Wild are going to match Rossi's offer sheet
Wild ‘not concerned’ about re-signing Rossi, prepared to match offer sheet | NHL.com
I don't see any team making Rossi an offer. Rossi and his agent believe he is worth a lot more than he actually is, I think Guerin is just letting them find out the truth on their own
I don't see any team making Rossi an offer. Rossi and his agent believe he is worth a lot more than he actually is, I think Guerin is just letting them find out the truth on their own
The main reason is that they are rare and just not worth it for the vast majority of players that go to RFA.
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Risk for the offering team:If the original team matches the offer sheet, the offering team loses the opportunity to acquire the player without any compensation.
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Compensation for the original team:If the original team chooses not to match, they receive draft pick compensation based on the value of the offer sheet.
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Importance of RFAs to teams:Top-tier RFAs are often crucial to a team's future, and teams are often willing to match offers to retain them.
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Salary cap and draft pick considerations:Offer sheets require significant cap space and draft picks from the offering team, which can be a limiting factor.
@team2tank I mean, in short, its rare because either you're giving up a bunch for picks or you're giving the other team an automatic lower offer than what they may otherwise pay with the clearly high tier guys who are worth it getting signed by their parent team before they even get to this point most of the time. It's pretty rare you get a spot where you can offer sheet someone and the parent club has their hands tied to match a deal that's good for the non-parent club (see StL deals this last year)
For Rossi specifically, he is not worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd (if he landed above 6.8AAV) for sure, and maybe not even a 1st and 3rd (if 4.6-6.8) unless you know they're going to be late in the round because you're a contender, and the Wild are probably going to be really comfortable taking him if the AAV is in the 4.5 range so you're just making it easier on MN if you go lower. It's what @j22 says in that Rossi and his agent are way off on what people see about him in that he got to play 1st line this year and still had mediocre numbers so he's not worth dumping that draft capital (not to mention over half the league doesn't have the cap space or draft picks available to make the move)
Wild sign some depth/minor league players today.
SAINT PAUL, Minn. - Minnesota Wild President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Bill Guerin today announced the National Hockey League (NHL) club has signed goaltender Cal Petersen to a one-year $775,000 contract, forward Nicolas Aube-Kubel to a one-year, two-way contract ($775,000/$500,000), defenseman Ben Gleason to a one-year, two-way contract ($800,000/$475,000), defenseman Matt Kiersted to a two-year, two-way contract ($775,000/$450,000) and forward Tyler Pitlickto a two-year, two-way contract ($775,000/$300,000 in 2025-26 and $775,000/$350,000 in 2026-27)
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