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what was the score of the Minnesota ulumni vs Non U of M game?
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I for one don’t like choppers at all. I’m a glove guy regardless of the weather.
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This year's tourney is shaping up to be very deep and very competitive. Could have some big time Semifinal Friday games coming together. And the potential for solid games on Thursday.
Here is the top 6 teams in the State, that will be 1 seeds in sections and all could make the tournament as there is no overlap with each other in sections. In paratheses teams that have a shot at those sections.
| 1. | Moorhead | 22-1-0 | ||
| 2. | St. Thomas Academy (Cretin, 18-2,1; Rosemount, 19-2) | 18-3-0 | ||
| 3. | Hill-Murray (WBL, 13-4-3; Stillwater, 17-4) | 18-2-1 | ||
| 4. | Rogers | 19-1-1 | ||
| 6. | Edina (BSM, 15-5) | 15-6-0 |
The down sections this year.
1AA, Doesn't Matter
2AA, Shakopee, 15-5-1; Tonka 11-8-2; EP, 12-7-2
7AA, Grand Rapids, 14-7-1
Interestingly I wear choppers to my kids' hockey games, but if I need to shovel or blow off the driveway I wear gloves.https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2F1kPEW/
I for one don’t like choppers at all. I’m a glove guy regardless of the weather.
The choppers are comfortable and loud when you clap. They're perfect for hockey games . They're yellow because they're traditionally made of deer hide. And now at all hockey tourneys there is a guy at a booth who will laser engrave a team logo on the choppers. But they aren't going to buy 5 different sizes in 15 different colors for the various teams.
This is awful. I try to tell my kids to wear helmets when they go to the outdoor rink to play, but most teens would never do that. They're all invincible.
Took me MANY attempts to get them to wear the neck guards I purchased over the years. Last year they finally started wearing them after Adam Johnson lost his life. Thankfully they are now mandatory. I did see a player that was forced to leave a game because he wasn't wearing his. So unlike, mouth guards, refs are at least enforcing the neck guard rule.
I did see a player that was forced to leave a game because he wasn't wearing his. So unlike, mouth guards, refs are at least enforcing the neck guard rule.
Why are the stripes going to force neck guards and not mouth pieces. The chances of a neck being cut is far less than teeth being knocked out. I know it’s cool not to wear a mouth piece. And the same can be said about neck guards and how a player wears it.
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You wouldn’t believe how few kids wear mouth guards. A few years ago our district sent out notices to every family that they were going to enforce mouth guards and they were required to be tethered. I’m went to one of the first bantam AA games of the year (not my association) and hardly any kid was wearing a mouth guard.I did see a player that was forced to leave a game because he wasn't wearing his. So unlike, mouth guards, refs are at least enforcing the neck guard rule.
Why are the stripes going to force neck guards and not mouth pieces. The chances of a neck being cut is far less than teeth being knocked out. I know it’s cool not to wear a mouth piece. And the same can be said about neck guards and how a player wears it.
Seems by the time they get to peewee or bantams if they do have a mouth guard it’s often not in their mouth, just floating around in the face mask or at best they chew on one end of it and the other 16 teeth go unprotected.
Im telling you they all think they’re invincible, until they feel the pain themselves.
I did see a player that was forced to leave a game because he wasn't wearing his. So unlike, mouth guards, refs are at least enforcing the neck guard rule.
Why are the stripes going to force neck guards and not mouth pieces. The chances of a neck being cut is far less than teeth being knocked out. I know it’s cool not to wear a mouth piece. And the same can be said about neck guards and how a player wears it.
While mouth guards are important, I would imagine you are far less likely to die from losing a few chiclets vs. slicing your jugular or carotid. Probably also easier to tell a kid isn’t wearing a neck guard vs. a mouthguard. 🤷♀️
How many slicing of the jugular or carotid did you hear of before Adam Johnson and after. And how many hockey players by high school have missing or chipped teeth. Plus how many concussions could’ve prevented by wearing a mouthguard. Personally I would be more focused on mouth guards than neck guards.
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How many slicing of the jugular or carotid did you hear of before Adam Johnson and after. And how many hockey players by high school have missing or chipped teeth. Plus how many concussions could’ve prevented by wearing a mouthguard. Personally I would be more focused on mouth guards than neck guards.
I started pushing my kids to where neck guards after a high school player in MN had his jugular sliced in practice back in 2017. The risk is so much higher for necks than the mouth guards. But the best neck guards (worn like a shirt) are hot to wear so players don't like them.
As far as mouth guards, don't get me wrong I am constantly reminding my kids to wear their mouth guards correctly. But the risk to teeth damage is fairly low now since helmets are much more protective than when we were kids. They all now have face mask straps and chin straps and chin guards so the helmet and facemask doesn't push up into the mouth like they did years ago. I'd bet most damage to teeth these days comes from playing on outdoor rinks and when they play without facemasks (junior hockey or adult league).
How many slicing of the jugular or carotid did you hear of before Adam Johnson and after. And how many hockey players by high school have missing or chipped teeth. Plus how many concussions could’ve prevented by wearing a mouthguard. Personally I would be more focused on mouth guards than neck guards.
Quantity of occurance and severity are two different things. Neck lacertations are a medical emergency with aid needing to be administered quickly. Concussions are severe, and certainly not to be ignored, but not generally life threatening medical emergencies like neck lacerations. For that reason I am glad kids are now wearing neck guards along with mouth guards.
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Ah, the lack of suspense in early round girl’s sectionals. Minnetonka squeezes by New Prague last night 22-0. Shots on goal were 100-2.
@iceburg Not shocked Minnetonka was classless. The only goalie on my daughter's JV team got hurt last year and we had to play the last 5 games suiting up a defenseman in net (with zero experience playing goalie). Minnetonka knew about it and beat us 15-0. Never let up and made sure to score another goal with 2 seconds left in the game. 🙄
Curious timing, but one of my kids best friends was playing a Jr Gold game today in Evelyth and took a skate to the face and chest. Despite the helmet he needs stitches on his chin.
Thank God for the neck guards!
Why are the stripes going to force neck guards and not mouth pieces. The chances of a neck being cut is far less than teeth being knocked out. I know it’s cool not to wear a mouth piece. And the same can be said about neck guards and how a player wears it.
They're really not enforcing at high school level. I see about 3/4 of the kids wearing approved neck guards in hs games. Not many wearing mouth guards either.
@iceburg Not shocked Minnetonka was classless. The only goalie on my daughter's JV team got hurt last year and we had to play the last 5 games suiting up a defenseman in net (with zero experience playing goalie). Minnetonka knew about it and beat us 15-0. Never let up and made sure to score another goal with 2 seconds left in the game. 🙄
Mankato East scored 14 against New Prague this year, BSM and AHA both scored 13. Centennial put up 13 against Cooper/Armstrong, BSM scored 14 vs Waconia. Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
@iceburg Not shocked Minnetonka was classless. The only goalie on my daughter's JV team got hurt last year and we had to play the last 5 games suiting up a defenseman in net (with zero experience playing goalie). Minnetonka knew about it and beat us 15-0. Never let up and made sure to score another goal with 2 seconds left in the game. 🙄
Mankato East scored 14 against New Prague this year, BSM and AHA both scored 13. Centennial put up 13 against Cooper/Armstrong, BSM scored 14 vs Waconia. Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
I hear what you’re saying. A couple things that come to mind is to lengthen the bench, more shifts for 3rd and 4th liners that might normally not get the ice time in close games. Swap defense and forwards, gives defensemen a chance to make plays down low for a change instead of keeping in your stud point getters. The thing about all this is that individual points/stats matter to a lot of these players and it comes down to what the right thing to do is. I can see every game having different circumstances. (School/individual records for example)
Why are the stripes going to force neck guards and not mouth pieces. The chances of a neck being cut is far less than teeth being knocked out. I know it’s cool not to wear a mouth piece. And the same can be said about neck guards and how a player wears it.
They're really not enforcing at high school level. I see about 3/4 of the kids wearing approved neck guards in hs games. Not many wearing mouth guards either.
At the Farmington vs. Apple Valley games yesterday, I saw a handful of players not wearing neck guards.
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I can also see a team running up a score if the team getting it handed to them starts taking runs at guys and playing goon style hockey. Put in the too pp unit and throw it back in their face on the scoreboard. I guess a lot depends on the particular game situations imo.
Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
No magic number, but read the room. They knew we were playing a defenseman in net (our best defenseman, so that removed one of our best skaters also). They never switched up their positions/lines. They played their obnoxious goal horn after every goal and celebrated to the very end. I don't know... maybe give it a rest after the 10th goal?
I get it. Mismatches happen. But do what's in your control to not be assholes about it. I was indifferent to Minnetonka before that day, but I loved it when Edina took them out in the state tournament a few weeks later.
Coaching hockey is somewhat of different task as in football or basketball in a blowout. You can throw in the bench run the ball over throwing or run a slower offense in basketball. It’s hard to tell kids who very seldom play not to score or not make big plays. As for hockey everyone pretty much plays. Though you can run your 4th and 3rd lines more and run the 2nd and 1st A LOT less. Though if you’re up 10-0 and still running your 1st line every other shift is a bit much.
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Coaching hockey is somewhat of different task as in football or basketball in a blowout. You can throw in the bench run the ball over throwing or run a slower offense in basketball. It’s hard to tell kids who very seldom play not to score or not make big plays. As for hockey everyone pretty much plays. Though you can run your 4th and 3rd lines more and run the 2nd and 1st A LOT less. Though if you’re up 10-0 and still running your 1st line every other shift is a bit much.
Only shoot outside the dots? Near the Blue line? Backhands only? Must complete 5 passes in the zone before you shoot? Defenders play forward?
There's some ideas from a soccer coach who has been on both sides of a blowout.
They just need a ten run rule like they do in baseball/softball. (If they still even do that).
They just need a ten run rule like they do in baseball/softball. (If they still even do that).
They did stop hockey games (I think it was 10 goals in the third) a long time back, then switched to the current “running time” rule sometime in the mid-70s.
I’ve been to few games going into the 3rd and Team A is up by 6. So it’s a running clock and Team B scores and the game goes back to stoppage time.
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People also need to realize that players on a top team like Minnetonka are looking to get D1 offers and scholarships and won’t be interested in playing another position or playing keep away. They’ll want to pad stats and show talent.
As much as I hate team who run up the score, I do SORT OF understand it at this age.
Now Brett Bielima going for two when up by 30 points in the 4th quarter….F him.
To the Jr Gold player cherry picking when up 5-0 against my kid’s illness riddled team in the 3rd period this weekend…your parents raised a D bag and your coach is a turd.
People also need to realize that players on a top team like Minnetonka are looking to get D1 offers and scholarships and won’t be interested in playing another position or playing keep away. They’ll want to pad stats and show talent.
As much as I hate team who run up the score, I do SORT OF understand it at this age.
Now Brett Bielima going for two when up by 30 points in the 4th quarter….F him.
To the Jr Gold player cherry picking when up 5-0 against my kid’s illness riddled team in the 3rd period this weekend…your parents raised a D bag and your coach is a turd.
I'm pretty sure D1 coaches will know when stats have been padded against inferior teams though. But maybe the players don't realize that.
Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
No magic number, but read the room. They knew we were playing a defenseman in net (our best defenseman, so that removed one of our best skaters also). They never switched up their positions/lines. They played their obnoxious goal horn after every goal and celebrated to the very end. I don't know... maybe give it a rest after the 10th goal?
So you're 100% certain they didn't switch anything up to any degree not even the lines?
Looking at the New Prague box score I see that 13 different players scored goals and 17 different players had at least 1 point - that means only 1 skater that saw the ice had 0 points.
Looking at their season stats Hochbaum had 3G 1A for her first points for the entire season. Keepman had 2 points with only 2 points going into the game, Rogers had 1 point to add to her previous 3, Larson had 3 but only 8 going in, etc.
Looks to me like a lot of players got to see plenty of ice and it didn't matter. So what is the alternative - stand in their own zone and just sit on the puck?
And far as the in-game experience, when the Gophers paste Rutgers do they stop playing the Rouser when it's 49-7? Does Goldy go into hiding? Does the announcer stop saying, "And that's another Golden Gophers FIRST DOWN!"? When the Gophers used to beat Anchorage by 8 and 9 goals on consecutive nights did they dial anything back in Mariucci?
As far as rooting against a bunch of kids for just doing their jobs...
Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
No magic number, but read the room. They knew we were playing a defenseman in net (our best defenseman, so that removed one of our best skaters also). They never switched up their positions/lines. They played their obnoxious goal horn after every goal and celebrated to the very end. I don't know... maybe give it a rest after the 10th goal?
So you're 100% certain they didn't switch anything up to any degree not even the lines?
Looking at the New Prague box score I see that 13 different players scored goals and 17 different players had at least 1 point - that means only 1 skater that saw the ice had 0 points.
Looking at their season stats Hochbaum had 3G 1A for her first points for the entire season. Keepman had 2 points with only 2 points going into the game, Rogers had 1 point to add to her previous 3, Larson had 3 but only 8 going in, etc.
Looks to me like a lot of players got to see plenty of ice and it didn't matter. So what is the alternative - stand in their own zone and just sit on the puck?
And far as the in-game experience, when the Gophers paste Rutgers do they stop playing the Rouser when it's 49-7? Does Goldy go into hiding? Does the announcer stop saying, "And that's another Golden Gophers FIRST DOWN!"? When the Gophers used to beat Anchorage by 8 and 9 goals on consecutive nights did they dial anything back in Mariucci?
As far as rooting against a bunch of kids for just doing their jobs...
The Gophers would dial things back, yes. 3-4 line guys got more playing time and they wouldn’t necessarily pin their ears back and play aggressive in the O zone.
Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
No magic number, but read the room. They knew we were playing a defenseman in net (our best defenseman, so that removed one of our best skaters also). They never switched up their positions/lines. They played their obnoxious goal horn after every goal and celebrated to the very end. I don't know... maybe give it a rest after the 10th goal?
So you're 100% certain they didn't switch anything up to any degree not even the lines?
Looking at the New Prague box score I see that 13 different players scored goals and 17 different players had at least 1 point - that means only 1 skater that saw the ice had 0 points.
Looking at their season stats Hochbaum had 3G 1A for her first points for the entire season. Keepman had 2 points with only 2 points going into the game, Rogers had 1 point to add to her previous 3, Larson had 3 but only 8 going in, etc.
Looks to me like a lot of players got to see plenty of ice and it didn't matter. So what is the alternative - stand in their own zone and just sit on the puck?
And far as the in-game experience, when the Gophers paste Rutgers do they stop playing the Rouser when it's 49-7? Does Goldy go into hiding? Does the announcer stop saying, "And that's another Golden Gophers FIRST DOWN!"? When the Gophers used to beat Anchorage by 8 and 9 goals on consecutive nights did they dial anything back in Mariucci?
As far as rooting against a bunch of kids for just doing their jobs...
The Gophers would dial things back, yes. 3-4 line guys got more playing time and they wouldn’t necessarily pin their ears back and play aggressive in the O zone.
As I said 17/18 skaters with ice-time had a point and not sure if the Gophers really dialed things back. It would be interesting to see the box scores for these games from 1986:
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29 Jan Sun |
3 |
W |
5 |
- 1 |
at |
New Hampshire (nc) |
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30 Jan Mon |
3 |
W |
10 |
- 2 |
at |
New Hampshire (nc) |
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03 Feb Fri |
4 |
W |
8 |
- 3 |
Maine (nc) |
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04 Feb Sat |
4 |
W |
16 |
- 2 |
Maine (nc) |
I've said enough on the topic.
Is there a magic number where scording under is no longer classless?
What is the better team supposed to do? I guess they could just cycle the puck over and over again back into their own zone but that would be just as humiliating wouldn't it? Perhaps the over-matched team should forfeit.
No magic number, but read the room. They knew we were playing a defenseman in net (our best defenseman, so that removed one of our best skaters also). They never switched up their positions/lines. They played their obnoxious goal horn after every goal and celebrated to the very end. I don't know... maybe give it a rest after the 10th goal?
So you're 100% certain they didn't switch anything up to any degree not even the lines?
Looking at the New Prague box score I see that 13 different players scored goals and 17 different players had at least 1 point - that means only 1 skater that saw the ice had 0 points.
Looking at their season stats Hochbaum had 3G 1A for her first points for the entire season. Keepman had 2 points with only 2 points going into the game, Rogers had 1 point to add to her previous 3, Larson had 3 but only 8 going in, etc.
Looks to me like a lot of players got to see plenty of ice and it didn't matter. So what is the alternative - stand in their own zone and just sit on the puck?
And far as the in-game experience, when the Gophers paste Rutgers do they stop playing the Rouser when it's 49-7? Does Goldy go into hiding? Does the announcer stop saying, "And that's another Golden Gophers FIRST DOWN!"? When the Gophers used to beat Anchorage by 8 and 9 goals on consecutive nights did they dial anything back in Mariucci?
As far as rooting against a bunch of kids for just doing their jobs...
The Gophers would dial things back, yes. 3-4 line guys got more playing time and they wouldn’t necessarily pin their ears back and play aggressive in the O zone.
And college is not the same as high school. College players are adults and they are adults getting scholarships (and now are paid to boot).
There's a reason youth leagues employ running time when the game goes upside down. There's the rule book and then there's sportsmanship. The Gopher hockey team does this by playing the fourth line on a power play, taking shots from the blue line, dumping pucks, and resting players. There's no great way to do it, but an effort can be made.
Sports like tennis and volleyball are the purest sports in this respect. Every point must be played to determine a winner. There is no letting off the gas. If a team doesn't collect the required points to win a game, set, or match, they can't win. They're quite elegant in the way the score is predetermined, and the only question is who will reach it.
There's a reason youth leagues employ running time when the game goes upside down. There's the rule book and then there's sportsmanship. The Gopher hockey team does this by playing the fourth line on a power play, taking shots from the blue line, dumping pucks, and resting players. There's no great way to do it, but an effort can be made.
Sports like tennis and volleyball are the purest sports in this respect. Every point must be played to determine a winner. There is no letting off the gas. If a team doesn't collect the required points to win a game, set, or match, they can't win. They're quite elegant in the way the score is predetermined, and the only question is who will reach it.
17 of the Tonka 18 skaters had a point, 15 of them had two points. Everyone was playing, of course they were running all their lines.
New Prague got beat bad game in and game out this year. This was nothing new, it is what it is.
The kids are going to be fine, they are pretty resilient.
Unfortunately the Gopher example isn't a very good comparison here, no where on the same planet as to what is going on with the disparity of skill level here.
Time to fire Cassano. Way too many choke jobs under her.
Class A Sections:
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Class AA Sections:
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2025 Section 4AA Hockey, Boys Tournament | MSHSL
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AA Predictions:
1AA: Lakeville South
2AA: Shakopee
3AA: CDH
4AA: Hill-Murray
5AA: Rogers
6AA: Wayzata
7AA: Andover
8AA: Moorhead
Class AA Sections predictions:
1AA: #5 Farmington @skiier32
2AA: #2 Shakopee
3AA: #3 Rosemount
4AA: #3 White Bear Lake
5AA: #1 Rogers
6AA: #1 Edina
7AA: #2 Grand Rapids
8AA: #1 Moorhead
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Sec. 7AA… #1 seed is Rock Ridge (Rock Ridge, Mountain Iron-Buhl, Mesabi East & Cherry) coached by UMD alum Matt Niskanen plays the winner of #9 Anoka vs. #8 Duluth East. Two programs who have hockey success and State Championships that have fallen to coaching changes and other upcoming programs near them.
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1) LVS 2)Shakopee 3)STA 4) Stillwater (transfer goalie Conway steals it) 5) Rogers 6)Edina 7) Andover or Rock Ridge 8) MoorheadThanks @gator for the love. We will see.Class AA Sections predictions:
1AA: #5 Farmington @skiier32
2AA: #2 Shakopee
3AA: #3 Rosemount
4AA: #3 White Bear Lake
5AA: #1 Rogers
6AA: #1 Edina
7AA: #2 Grand Rapids
8AA: #1 Moorhead
1) LVS 2)Shakopee 3)STA 4) Stillwater (transfer goalie Conway steals it) 5) Rogers 6)Edina 7) Andover or Rock Ridge 8) MoorheadThanks @gator for the love. We will see.Class AA Sections predictions:
1AA: #5 Farmington @skiier32
2AA: #2 Shakopee
3AA: #3 Rosemount
4AA: #3 White Bear Lake
5AA: #1 Rogers
6AA: #1 Edina
7AA: #2 Grand Rapids
8AA: #1 Moorhead
1. Who cares
time to make some changes. The sections tournaments have seen changes over the years no reason this one needs special treatment. Stillwater, St. Thomas are examples of schools just as close to Rochester as Lakeville.
2. Shakopee (want)
but my gut tells me EPs tough schedule/preparation gets them through. Shak will have to beat Tonka and EP, just not seeing it.
3. St. Thomas
4. Stillwater (want), this should be a great game.
5. Rogers
6. BSM
7. Grand Rapids
8. Moorhead