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Ho hum another 6 goals. This team scores like it’s going out of style


   
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1). #10 is always the last one off the ice after warmups before the game starts. Does anyone know if this is something the Gophers like to do select one player to be the last off the ice?

2). The Gophers are the top scoring team in college hockey.

3). Did any Gophers fans get to keep any purple light sticks? I'm honestly not sure they should be allowed, Brody Lamb most likely would have put up 9 tonight 🤣 If flash photography isn't allowed I would think those light sticks are worse.

4). Great game tonight I like having 2 decent goalies. It nice to have a fresh goalie each night. 

Go Gophers!!!


   
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@gopherfun83 Often times it is a case of certain guys being superstitious and wanting to be the last guy off the ice.

There has been times where guys on different teams keep waiting for the guy on the other team to get off the ice so they can be last.

I suspect on each team if they have more than one guy who wants to be last off the ice it goes to the more senior player.


   
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I think it's way too early to rank where this team falls against those have come before.  Yeah they look great so far, but they have much stiffer competition coming between now and March.  

I think as much as anything what I've liked (speed and skill are usually always mentioned first when discussing the great teams) is their poise, maturity and this has to be one of the biggest and strongest teams they've had for a long time.


   
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@collegehockeyaddict C’mon, get serious, if Wood doesn’t (smartly) drop to the ice like he'd been hit by a .306…it’s a two minute minor…lol…Credit to Wood for selling it, Golden Globe acting performance.

 it’s a textbook 5. Absolutely idiotic choice from Gleason and gets what he deserves with the hate. You just can’t do that anymore

 

I agree. Punk Gleason was gooning it up all game and had to work out the geometry just to get his stick that high to hit Wood. He knew Wood was coming, but he's too small to do the old exploding shoulder trick so he resorted to the tried and true stick to the face instead.

People can argue all they want about what constitutes a major, but they are reviewed after the call is made. What more do they want?

The little hot head hurt his team tonight and was removed from the game as he should have been.

 


   
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@chris-eckes

I've been close to saying the same thing but know that there's another team in the country averaging 5 goals per game.  Wish we could play them before the Frozen Four . . . to compare notes . . . .

Go Gophers!

 

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Posted by: @chris-eckes

Is anybody else thinking that this is the best gopher team since... Maybe my lifetime? 

They play in waves, they create turnovers like I've never seen another gopher team, the D are spectacular... They just create chance after chance all game long, all 4 lines. 

Only question mark really is goalie. I love the way these guys play the game.

Hard not to want to sim the season until Dec. 6, but we all know college hockey doesn't work that way.

 


   




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Posted by: @eric-vegoe

Posted by: @chris-eckes

Is anybody else thinking that this is the best gopher team since... Maybe my lifetime? 

They play in waves, they create turnovers like I've never seen another gopher team, the D are spectacular... They just create chance after chance all game long, all 4 lines. 

Only question mark really is goalie. I love the way these guys play the game.

Hard not to want to sim the season until Dec. 6, but we all know college hockey doesn't work that way.

 

Despite the Badgers AWFUL start, at Bucky & at Gold Helmets will give a better indication (aside from the obvious) that the Gophers are a WAGON. And while it’s  fun to win 7-5, 6-2, 5-1 games now…in March & April the premium is on winning 2-1, 3-2, 4-2 (en) games. If they prove they can do that too by season’s end…then they’ll be a very dangerous post season juggernaut. 

 


   
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Posted by: @bearpaw28

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Posted by: @eric-vegoe

Posted by: @chris-eckes

Is anybody else thinking that this is the best gopher team since... Maybe my lifetime? 

They play in waves, they create turnovers like I've never seen another gopher team, the D are spectacular... They just create chance after chance all game long, all 4 lines. 

Only question mark really is goalie. I love the way these guys play the game.

Hard not to want to sim the season until Dec. 6, but we all know college hockey doesn't work that way.

 

Despite the Badgers awful start, at Bucky & at Gold Helmets will give a better indication (aside from the obvious) that the Gophers are a WAGON. And while it’s  fun to win 7-5, 6-2, 5-1 games now…in March & April the premium is on winning 2-1, 3-2, 4-2 (en) games. If they prove they can do that too by season’s end…then they’ll be a dangerous post season juggernaut. 

 

 interestingly, Denver won 6 1 goals games all regular season last year. They only scored less than 4 in 1 of them. It’s really hard to predict the transition to the postseason, but I’ll take the team leading the country in scoring and only giving up 2 at this point. This team is built to be able to win those tight games with how cool they are in the defensive zone and the breakout, which is much better than last year (joy of having the whole d core back again and why so many of us were so high on this team). 

that said, DU looks every bit as good again this year and BC is going to score more and more as their couple of freshman settle in. UND will peak back half of the year. Lots of good teams this year but don’t think there’s someone who’s as head and shoulders better looking that everyone is gunning to knock out like BC was last year. Fully admit I thought it would be BC this year, but some other teams have made that gap look smaller this year

 


   
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Chesley playing great hockey. Lamb and Kurth making the leap. Fun weekend. 


   
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@upnorthkid the free-wheeling skating teams,  full of young stars, get the benefit of tight officiating during the regular season. Come playoff time, these guys get their space taken away--and their lunches eaten--while the refs allow it to happen.

For the past 15 years or so, the post season games reward the more mature, lower-skilled teams that commit to defense. 

BC was insanely skilled last season and may have pulled off an NC if they had a couple grinders (it didn't help that Denver had that delicate combo of skill and grit they always seem to have). Put another way, if BC played MN in a track meet instead, they would have come out on top.

To bearpaw's point, MN needs to play like Denver did last year to win some low scoring, physically grinding games. The question is, can they?

In 2014 and 2023 the team had strong starts only to fritter them away and play like they had no idea of how to protect a lead.

 


   
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I think it's way too early to rank where this team falls against those have come before.  Yeah they look great so far, but they have much stiffer competition coming between now and March.  

I think as much as anything what I've liked (speed and skill are usually always mentioned first when discussing the great teams) is their poise, maturity and this has to be one of the biggest and strongest teams they've had for a long time.

If the 22-23 team is the measuring stick then I think this team clears it. Guess it really all depends how someone would value Cooley and Knies. At the same time this team doesn’t have a Pino or Strobel, and I think this freshman class looks further along than the 22-23 freshman.

Defensively Gruba is playing like he’s a year and half into is collegiate career. And while Whipple looks like he may be holding on at times he’s isn’t costing the team with turnovers or bad positioning.

What’s exciting about this group is we are only 6 games into the season with plenty of room to continue to get better.

 


   
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We also haven't played anybody yet.  We rolled teams we should have rolled.  That is great but that isn't how you make your bones as an all time great team.  You do that by dominating the best.  

Call me in March/April then we can talk.


   
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Posted by: @wilson34

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I think it's way too early to rank where this team falls against those have come before.  Yeah they look great so far, but they have much stiffer competition coming between now and March.  

I think as much as anything what I've liked (speed and skill are usually always mentioned first when discussing the great teams) is their poise, maturity and this has to be one of the biggest and strongest teams they've had for a long time.

If the 22-23 team is the measuring stick then I think this team clears it. Guess it really all depends how someone would value Cooley and Knies. At the same time this team doesn’t have a Pino or Strobel, and I think this freshman class looks further along than the 22-23. 

 

 

Clears it? That’s a very premature assessment. That team had 5 players who are playing a regular shift in the NHL & a veteran goalie (with 3 being top 2 line, top 4 D) Also had the Farm kid & Brodz. This team is off to a fabulous start but…let it breath a bit before extending an appendage out that far 😉

 


   
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Posted by: @bearpaw28

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I think it's way too early to rank where this team falls against those have come before.  Yeah they look great so far, but they have much stiffer competition coming between now and March.  

I think as much as anything what I've liked (speed and skill are usually always mentioned first when discussing the great teams) is their poise, maturity and this has to be one of the biggest and strongest teams they've had for a long time.

If the 22-23 team is the measuring stick then I think this team clears it. Guess it really all depends how someone would value Cooley and Knies. At the same time this team doesn’t have a Pino or Strobel, and I think this freshman class looks further along than the 22-23. 

 

 

Clears it? That’s a very premature assessment. That team had 5 players who are playing a regular shift in the NHL & a veteran goalie (with 3 being top 2 line, top 4 D) Also had the Farm kid & Brodz. This team is off to a fabulous start but…let it breath a bit before extending an appendage out that far 😉

 

And yet all 5 of those NHLers couldn’t handle a Quinnipiac forecheck. How are those Quinnipiac players fairing in the NHL? NHL status is irrelevant to the point I’m making.

Judging this Gophers team off of the eye test and the current college hockey landscape of other teams currently is how I judge the team. Not where individual players will be in a few years.

While the D-core may not be on the 22-23 level, the gap isn’t as wide as some may think. This team is bigger and deeper offensively than 22-23. So no, not a stretch to judge them so highly this early. We all think this is a frozen four team. Let’s not shy away expectations.

 


   
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I just like the way they are on the puck all of the time. They seem to battle in the corners unlike other Gopher teams and come up with the possession of the puck. As other have said, the goalies really have not been pressured yet. The face-offs also is an area that there is room for improvement. I lust love the balance that this team has and I will enjoy the ride, win or lose.

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@wilson34 Look I like your moxie…they look tremendous, with little fall off no matter who’s on the ice…but in fairness the only team they’ve played that’s even decent was in a (meaningless) exhibition. And the subsequent NHL pedigree of top players from 22-23 team (comparatively) is relevant to this teams projected finish. I don’t anticipate Stupid Helnets giving them much problem playing at home next weekend. I expect more crooked number scores. 


   
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The way I see it is that I'd rather start the season ahead of the curve  and build on that versus a typical college teams that plays to improve in the second half of the season. No, they haven't played any very good teams yet, but so far I like where they're at.

The only issue I had with the team this weekend was their lackadaisical start in the 3rd period when they had the 5-min major. They were checked out mentally.


   
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@streakygopher not disagreeing with you. More just meaning what you do in the regular season doesn’t really impact if you can do it when it matters. Whole different animal


   
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Not gonna make any grand proclamations but the team definitely looks better than they did at the start of last year and appears to have above average depth. All they can do is win the games they play and they’re doing it with ease so far. UNO game was kinda unlucky but it seems like they learned from it as they’re working the puck down low more even getting guys like Rinzel behind the goal line at times which set up at least one goal on Friday. It’ll be interesting to see how they play against some of the boring lock it down teams like Notre Dame that they typically struggle against. 


   
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True.  I also had some concerns about literally trying to gift UST goals with careless play in our end.  That being said this team seems to have high drive and puck hunger all through the lineup that has been up and down with previous teams.  All of them seem to be willing to dig out pucks and play in the hard areas.  That plus the defense being able to jump in and knowing WHEN to jump in seem like huge positives on this group.  I always have the highest expectations, but we have not been battle tested yet.  Win when you should like you said, but we have played only should win games so far.


   
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Posted by: @bearpaw28

Look I like your moxie…

Someone watches ‘King of Queens’.

 

Keep your stick on the ice...


   
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@wilson34 Look I like your moxie…they look tremendous, with little fall off no matter who’s on the ice…but in fairness the only team they’ve played that’s even decent was in a (meaningless) exhibition. And the subsequent NHL pedigree of top players from 22-23 team (comparatively) is relevant to this teams projected finish. I don’t anticipate Stupid Helnets giving them much problem playing at home next weekend. I expect more crooked number scores. 

 

Slight disagreement with respect to the Stupid Helmets, as their style is the grinding, defensive type that seems to give the Gophers problems. This is the kind of series somebody like Wood should help with.

Agree with all comments that they haven't played a legit opponent yet, but also remembering back to how felt after St. Thomas last year  --- I was underwhelmed and looking for a jump that really never came. this year, they did what they were supposed to. What will it mean at the end year --- impossible to say, but I'd rather be here now then where we were last year at this point in time.

 


   
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@wilson34 Look I like your moxie…they look tremendous, with little fall off no matter who’s on the ice…but in fairness the only team they’ve played that’s even decent was in a (meaningless) exhibition. And the subsequent NHL pedigree of top players from 22-23 team (comparatively) is relevant to this teams projected finish. I don’t anticipate Stupid Helnets giving them much problem playing at home next weekend. I expect more crooked number scores. 

 

Slight disagreement with respect to the Stupid Helmets, as their style is the grinding, defensive type that seems to give the Gophers problems. This is the kind of series somebody like Wood should help with.

Agree with all comments that they haven't played a legit opponent yet, but also remembering back to how felt after St. Thomas last year  --- I was underwhelmed and looking for a jump that really never came. this year, they did what they were supposed to. What will it mean at the end year --- impossible to say, but I'd rather be here now then where we were last year at this point in time.

 

You know he’s talking about Penn St, right?

 


   
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The way I see it is that I'd rather start the season ahead of the curve  and build on that versus a typical college teams that plays to improve in the second half of the season. No, they haven't played any very good teams yet, but so far I like where they're at.

The only issue I had with the team this weekend was their lackadaisical start in the 3rd period when they had the 5-min major. They were checked out mentally.

Interesting narrative being made on here by many that they haven’t played anyone. For years people have said in state games are always challenging regardless of rankings and records. And yet they sweep Duluth and St. Thomas and suddenly it doesn’t mean much. Ok.

If you’re looking for validation just turn the TV on in late March. Besides Michigan State, competition may not come until tourney time.

Don’t need to see a regular season win against a Denver, BU, BC, and NoDak to tell you this team is for real.

 


   
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The way I see it is that I'd rather start the season ahead of the curve  and build on that versus a typical college teams that plays to improve in the second half of the season. No, they haven't played any very good teams yet, but so far I like where they're at.

The only issue I had with the team this weekend was their lackadaisical start in the 3rd period when they had the 5-min major. They were checked out mentally.

Interesting narrative being made on here by many that they haven’t played anyone. For years people have said in state games are always challenging regardless of rankings and records. And yet they sweep Duluth and St. Thomas and suddenly it doesn’t mean much. Ok.

If you’re looking for validation just turn the TV on in late March. Besides Michigan State, competition may not come until tourney time.

Don’t need to see a regular season win against a Denver, BU, BC, and NoDak to tell you this team is for real.

 

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 St Thomas isn’t very good (yet) and with UMD rebuilding with 11 freshmen, it doesn’t mean as much this particular year. If the Gophers take 3 out of 4 on the road vs (Bucky in 2 weeks & Gold Helmets in 4 weeks) that will confirm they’re cooking with high octane gas! Clearly the eye test (so far) indicates they’re a formidable squad. tBob seems giddy about the squads potential too. 

 


   
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I think mainly I’m just happy to see the offense is there from a lot of different places and the D isn’t as loosey goosey as it was vs St Thomas last year or even Lindenwood the year before. The process looks good so far even against UNO it wasn’t bad. I didn’t see all of last night’s game but it couldn’t have been that bad.

Obviously we’ll learn more about the D and goalies against better opponents but I think it’s safe to say that some of the Dmen look improved. Goalies both seem fine I never expect them to be insane and I imagine they keep splitting for a bit. 


   




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Posted by: @wilson34

Posted by: @streakygopher

The way I see it is that I'd rather start the season ahead of the curve  and build on that versus a typical college teams that plays to improve in the second half of the season. No, they haven't played any very good teams yet, but so far I like where they're at.

The only issue I had with the team this weekend was their lackadaisical start in the 3rd period when they had the 5-min major. They were checked out mentally.

Interesting narrative being made on here by many that they haven’t played anyone. For years people have said in state games are always challenging regardless of rankings and records. And yet they sweep Duluth and St. Thomas and suddenly it doesn’t mean much. Ok.

If you’re looking for validation just turn the TV on in late March. Besides Michigan State, competition may not come until tourney time.

Don’t need to see a regular season win against a Denver, BU, BC, and NoDak to tell you this team is for real.

 

Hello Mr. Straw Man...please make sure not to leave any stuffing around when you leave. 

If you can find a post of mine where I said anything about St. Thomas or Duluth or SCCC or MSUM or BSU being tough games you might have a point.  You won't, because I didn't.  In fact you will find plenty of posts of me saying I don't like that we play those teams all the time and don't find much value in it.  The point is exasperated even worse this year as neither UMD or St. Thomas is all that good. 

Look I don't need to justify myself to you but just so things are clear I'm not saying the team has not played great.  They have.  The throttled inferior teams (outside UNO) and that is all you can ask.   But you don't crown all time great teams in October.  That would be like saying an NFL Team is an all timer after week 2.  I mean we haven't even started the Big Ten season yet...the usual refrain for fans of helmet schools was "call me when the months start with Y" just to even start really thinking things were special. 

Plenty of teams can have a great month...it's ok to both be excited for what we have seen and still think we have a long way to go to match the best Gopher teams ever.  

 


   
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Nope ---I completely botched. Thought they were playing Notre Dame for some reason. I couldnt have been more about team / style. Helmets still ugly however. My mistake.


   
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I think st Thomas might be the 4th or 5th best team in the CCHA.


   
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It's a pre-season poll, so, take it for what it's worth, but St Thomas is expected to be at the top of the CCHA with Bemidji.  St Thomas ahead in the media poll, tied with Bemidji in the coaches poll.

B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?


   
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Posted by: @wilson34

Posted by: @streakygopher

The way I see it is that I'd rather start the season ahead of the curve  and build on that versus a typical college teams that plays to improve in the second half of the season. No, they haven't played any very good teams yet, but so far I like where they're at.

The only issue I had with the team this weekend was their lackadaisical start in the 3rd period when they had the 5-min major. They were checked out mentally.

Interesting narrative being made on here by many that they haven’t played anyone. For years people have said in state games are always challenging regardless of rankings and records. And yet they sweep Duluth and St. Thomas and suddenly it doesn’t mean much. Ok.

If you’re looking for validation just turn the TV on in late March. Besides Michigan State, competition may not come until tourney time.

Don’t need to see a regular season win against a Denver, BU, BC, and NoDak to tell you this team is for real.

 

Hello Mr. Straw Man...please make sure not to leave any stuffing around when you leave. 

If you can find a post of mine where I said anything about St. Thomas or Duluth or SCCC or MSUM or BSU being tough games you might have a point.  You won't, because I didn't.  In fact you will find plenty of posts of me saying I don't like that we play those teams all the time and don't find much value in it.  The point is exasperated even worse this year as neither UMD or St. Thomas is all that good. 

Look I don't need to justify myself to you but just so things are clear I'm not saying the team has not played great.  They have.  The throttled inferior teams (outside UNO) and that is all you can ask.   But you don't crown all time great teams in October.  That would be like saying an NFL Team is an all timer after week 2.  I mean we haven't even started the Big Ten season yet...the usual refrain for fans of helmet schools was "call me when the months start with Y" just to even start really thinking things were special. 

Plenty of teams can have a great month...it's ok to both be excited for what we have seen and still think we have a long way to go to match the best Gopher teams ever.  

 

I could literally care less what you personally think of the Gophers scheduling in state games on a given year. Not the point I was making. If you’re waiting for the Gophers to “play somebody”, aren’t Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, and Wisconsin of similar ilk to Duluth and St. Thomas? Or do you just value the B1G players over the NCHC and CCHA more?

Obviously the Gopher’s won’t go a perfect 16-0 against those B1G teams, but that doesn’t change what this team is. I’ve seen enough from this team after 6 games to know what they are. Just like I knew what the 22-23 team was after the month of October when they had 3 loses and a come from behind victory against Lindenwood at home.

You clearly don’t know what a straw man argument is, but an impassioned post nonetheless.

 


   
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Posted by: @wilson34

I’ve seen enough from this team after 6 games to know what they are.

I think the main thing for me feeling so high on this team after the first couple of series is how they're controlling play, but it doesn't feel like they're pushing. They're playing their game and absolutely dominating while doing it. 

You can point to last year's team's series against St Thomas. Yes they swept, yes the second night was a snoozer the Gophers won easily, but there wasn't a moment in this series where it felt like St Thomas ever really had a shot. 


   
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I still cannot believe it was not called a 5 minute major + GM on the ice.

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Posted by: @greyeagle

I still cannot believe it was not called a 5 minute major + GM on the ice.

Crosscheck to the head, then reach over from behind and rip the helmet off.

That could legitimately have been two 5-minute + GM penalties for him.

 

B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?


   
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Posted by: @greyeagle

I still cannot believe it was not called a 5 minute major + GM on the ice.

CCHA refs....are not good.  I often wonder if they actually know the rules.

 


   
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Posted by: @viking

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I still cannot believe it was not called a 5 minute major + GM on the ice.

CCHA refs....are not good.  I often wonder if they actually know the rules.

They are also B1G refs.  It was the same crew both nights (maybe one of the linesmen swapped, but I don't think so).

 

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1. Parrish is more impressed with St Thomas than I am.

2. A Bulldog fan talking about Wood selling a penalty is priceless.


   
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I still cannot believe it was not called a 5 minute major + GM on the ice.

CCHA refs....are not good.  I often wonder if they actually know the rules.

They are also B1G refs.  It was the same crew both nights (maybe one of the linesmen swapped, but I don't think so).

Exact same crew of 4 both nights. The mostly do BigTen. 

 

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When it's a BigTen crew, I add to the game info on GPL.

 

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Posted by: @jupiter

Exact same crew of 4 both nights. The mostly do BigTen. 

That's what I was thinking, we get this group a lot.  Since they're on both rosters, though, it makes sense to have them do both games rather than two different groups, each only doing 1 game for the weekend.

 

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Posted by: @bearpaw28

I’ll also stipulate that Wood does remind me of Vanek (too) he’s really skilled and just FUN to watch (his acting is outstanding too) just a well rounded terrific talent. 

If he was any better maybe he’d have joined the Puppies.  Austin Farley might be the best in the business.  Also, what’s a .306? 30-06? .308?

 


   
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Posted by: @steve-mn

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Exact same crew of 4 both nights. The mostly do BigTen. 

That's what I was thinking, we get this group a lot.  Since they're on both rosters, though, it makes sense to have them do both games rather than two different groups, each only doing 1 game for the weekend.

 

I mean to be fair, Big Ten refs also seem to clearly not know or care to enforce the rules most nights 

 


   
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Yeah B1G refs have been known to be complete shite on the regular.  


   
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I’ve been more critical of the linesman in recent seasons.   There always seems to be a few questionable icing calls per game. 

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Posted by: @goldy77

Posted by: @bearpaw28

I’ll also stipulate that Wood does remind me of Vanek (too) he’s really skilled and just FUN to watch (his acting is outstanding too) just a well rounded terrific talent. 

If he was any better maybe he’d have joined the Puppies.  Austin Farley might be the best in the business.  Also, what’s a .306? 30-06? .308?

 

30-06…I haven’t went deer hunting in awhile. Yeah, Farley was the Jack Nicholson of flopping! 

 


   
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Farley was the ultimate see you next Tuesday, and so is Sandelin for teaching that brand of hockey. 


   




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