The DTA Cooley gear will disappear quick. Once he signs, they cannot sell that gear anymore. So get it while you can. (If you still can)
Could be a collectors item!
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Maybe the Blues take another stab at signing Snuggerud with his linemate gone.
The Blues aren't pushing Snuggy this was known in the middle of last year.
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Cooley's off season timeline--
-- Announces via Dinkytown Athletes with Snuggy that he is coming back.
-- Says the arena vote played a part in his decision to return
-- Does a rare off season zoom press conference discussing coming back
-- Releases a bunch of apparel through Dinkytown Athletes
-- Bob does multiple interviews about Cooley's decision to come back
then the warning signs start popping up
-- Changes online profile pic to Coyotes during NHL draft week and then back to the Gophers
-- Left off the World Jr camp roster
-- Goes to Coyotes prospects camp and shines.
-- Gives an interview with Craig Morgan saying "there is a chance" he could still sign.
-- Cancels the autograph session with Snuggy in Minnesota
-- Changes online profile back to Coyotes
-- Coyotes start teasing Cooley may sign
-- Craig Morgan and others speculate he will sign soon
-- We now wait for the official announcement a day after he was named to an academic all American team
I may have missed a few others, but this is what I remember.
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@Jupiter I know you are moving at some point, but maybe when things settle a bit and after the August 1 signing period, you guys can do a podcast to discuss the latest coming and goings. Just a thought and only if you guys have any free time in August. Lots of things to discuss including Cooley, potential early signings, player additions after the Cooley departure, and the whole Gophers tv/BSN deal.
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Whose team will have more wins next season -- Snugs or Cools? The Gophers 29 wins last season are more than the Coyotes had in any of the last three seasons (28, 25 & 24).
If he leaves, his legacy will be a season full of jaw-dropping moments, rivaling anyone who's ever worn the M.
It will also include losing his "cool" in a national title game by giving an incompetent ref the opportunity to ring him up on a penalty he could have skated away from -- and one that helped change the outcome of the game. That was his one memorable moment in the biggest game of the year. Oh well, next!
If DTA didn't already have a clause for players returning money if they go pro before the end of the season, maybe they will now.Maybe don't join Dinkytown Athletes if you've already played your last college game.
No kidding lol. This could be a learning experience.
One would hope that if Cooley got any money from DTA that he would return it or sign up to be a donor in the amount that he received. I'm not sure how that works as it is way above my pay grade. I'm still ok with my donation to DTA and will continue to support them.
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Whose team will have more wins next season -- Snugs or Cools? The Gophers 29 wins last season are more than the Coyotes had in any of the last three seasons (28, 25 & 24).
We do know which home arena will have more fans in it... 
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@Jupiter I know you are moving at some point, but maybe when things settle a bit and after the August 1 signing period, you guys can do a podcast to discuss the latest coming and goings. Just a thought and only if you guys have any free time in August. Lots of things to discuss including Cooley, potential early signings, player additions after the Cooley departure, and the whole Gophers tv/BSN deal.
House sold. Moving over the month of August...
But I have SO MUCH that needs to be done. Besides the actual move. I am building an office in my GF house basement. Could take quite a bit of time to get that done. I have demo'd everything. Still need to frame a few walls and have more electrical to do. Then comes the sheetrock/mudding/taping/ceiling. That part I may outsource since I suck at it... Then I need to get new internet at the house since DSL is not gonna do.
I am guessing that I will NOT be "studio" ready by the time the regular podcasts begin.
Just so much to do.
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@Jupiter I know you are moving at some point, but maybe when things settle a bit and after the August 1 signing period, you guys can do a podcast to discuss the latest coming and goings. Just a thought and only if you guys have any free time in August. Lots of things to discuss including Cooley, potential early signings, player additions after the Cooley departure, and the whole Gophers tv/BSN deal.
House sold. Moving over the month of August...
But I have SO MUCH that needs to be done. Besides the actual move. I am building an office in my GF house basement. Could take quite a bit of time to get that done. I have demo'd everything. Still need to frame a few walls and have more electrical to do. Then comes the sheetrock/mudding/taping/ceiling. That part I may outsource since I suck at it... Then I need to get new internet at the house since DSL is not gonna do.
I am guessing that I will NOT be "studio" ready by the time the regular podcasts begin.
Just so much to do.
Understandable. Moving is not fun.
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This one will be an absolutely massive gut punch and a huge step down in terms of this teams title odds. There are going to be some big growing pains coupled with hoping the scoring void can be filled on that top line, not to mention how much they dominated the puck. Big Ten race also gets much more interesting now.
2013 team lost Bjugstad, Haula and Schmidt and next year’s team was better. Not saying they’ll be better this year but all it takes is a good core and elite goaltending.
Now I’m listening to Don’t Look Back in Anger by Oasis. People aren’t wrong that this is a big gut punch. But I trust in Motzko and I trust in the team. I personally think it’s the wrong decision for all parties involved for Cooley to go pro but obviously I’m incredibly biased.
Cooley is an amazing player and I he will be dearly missed. But hockey is a team game and there are a lot of other players on this roster who are solid offensive players and can put the puck in the net. Who knows what this year will bring. If every season went exactly as predicted then this would be a boring sport. Minnesota should have won that national championship game last year. But unfortunately we didn’t. But Faber, Knies, Johnson, and LaCombe could have all turned pro last summer. But fortunately they didn’t. My point is let’s actually play the games before we write off this season. Still a really solid team with a great coaching staff. Still going to be a fun year that hopefully, and still very well could, end with us raising some hardware in St Paul in April.
@maroon_and_gold I mean that’s about all they lost off that team. Reload is a whole lot larger on this squad. A guy who dominates the puck like Cooley covers up a lot of defensive issues so losing 3 good to superb defenders is going to make it even tougher. Team still has the talent to be there, but there’s an awful lot more uncertainty if indeed Cooley signs
I don’t think anyone believes this team can’t be successful without Cooley but the disappointment is valid.
@rau4skiumah I don’t know if anyone is “writing off this season” with Cooley possibly signing. This team is still likely the B10 favorite and a top 5 team. Still will be a fun team to watch, but will rely even more on the returning older guys to step up (looking at you gentlemen who came back for your super senior year in particular, plus Huglen and Pitlick)
@maroon_and_gold I mean that’s about all they lost off that team. Reload is a whole lot larger on this squad. A guy who dominates the puck like Cooley covers up a lot of defensive issues so losing 3 good to superb defenders is going to make it even tougher. Team still has the talent to be there, but there’s an awful lot more uncertainty if indeed Cooley signs
Helgeson, Alt as well. Both were top 4 dmen. But I get your point. There wasn’t a Cooley on that team.
Give me Kurth on that top line with Moore and Snuggerud. Dude can forcheck like crazy and can bury from the greasy areas
I'll admit it...if Cooley signs I'll be pissed. All the ambivalent messages from him this offseason has been tiresome. Just state your intentions and stick to it. Have some damn pride in your message on where you want to be. I don't blame him on wanting to take the next step but don't screw around...just do it so that the program can move forward. That is what has me pissed more than anything else.
I wish him the best but don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
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Ah this is the GPL that for some time had been forgotten. ?
I'll admit it...if Cooley signs I'll be pissed. All the ambivalent messages from him this offseason has been tiresome. Just state your intentions and stick to it. Have some damn pride in your message on where you want to be. I don't blame him on wanting to take the next step but don't screw around...just do it so that the program can move forward. That is what has me pissed more than anything else.
I wish him the best but don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
Some serious pettiness from a few adults on here because an 18 year old kid changed his mind. Logan Cooley doesn’t owe you anything.
I’m thankful he chose to play his one season here and not at Notre Dame, he was incredible to watch.
Idk about “owes” but ideally he wouldn’t jerk everyone’s chain for 2 months including Motzko and the rest of the gopher program. That said I don’t hold any ill will towards him, I just think this could’ve been approached differently.
Today is a painful reminder of loss aversion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
To Cheer us up let's remind ourselves how much experience the gopher roster is gaining versus last year.
Last Season
| Year | # |
| Freshman | 10 |
| Sophomore | 4 |
| Junior | 4 |
| Senior (+) | 5 |
This Season (*Assuming Logan gets replaced by a Freshman)
| Year | # |
| Freshman | 5 |
| Sophomore | 9 |
| Junior | 3 |
| Senior (+) | 6 |
The kid changed his mind. Kudos to him for having the guts to act now. He had to know there’d be frustration about it. I’m glad he is doing this now instead of trying to see it through and hate it, leading to either going through the motions or leaving mid season.
Ok, so now the replacement --- can/does Hendrickson come to the U this year? Or do they just role with the other 12 forwards who have been mentioned?
Seems like people thought we needed an extra forward prior to Cooley leaving as well. Is there anyone else in the portal that would be interesting?
I will go back to what I said before. Not signing his professional contract was a mistake by Logan Cooley. The injury risk alone was not worth turning the Coyotes down and dwarfed any reason for staying another year playing college hockey. Playing professional hockey is why Logan Cooley went to the University of Minnesota. As far as I know, there hasn't been one mention of what his college major was or what classes he was taking at the U. He is a hockey player.
He played the basic standard of one year after his draft year of college hockey to take that last step of maturity before turning pro.
I would have advised him to turn pro immediately after the season. If I was advising him I would still advise him to turn professional and sign his ELC although essentially changing his mind probably cost him some good will.
As a Gopher fan, I hope this rumor is untrue and #92 is back for his sophomore season. But, it was a mistake to announce he was returning instead of turning pro.
I'll admit it...if Cooley signs I'll be pissed. All the ambivalent messages from him this offseason has been tiresome. Just state your intentions and stick to it. Have some damn pride in your message on where you want to be. I don't blame him on wanting to take the next step but don't screw around...just do it so that the program can move forward. That is what has me pissed more than anything else.
I wish him the best but don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
I am not trying to tell you how to feel so please dont take it that way but come on man. Just because we don't know every twist and turn of how this played out doesn't mean he was being deceptive or was "screwing around". You have no idea what his intentions were day to day and perhaps they are making him the only offer that would have got him to leave. (which they weren't before) Maybe they lowballed him until now...maybe he saw Fantilli signed and it caused him to re-asses.
It sucks we lost a great player but its July we could be in a lot worse position and I highly doubt he was playing any games about it.
Idk about “owes” but ideally he wouldn’t jerk everyone’s chain for 2 months including Motzko and the rest of the gopher program. That said I don’t hold any ill will towards him, I just think this could’ve been approached differently.
How do you know he jerked anyone's chain? Without knowing any of the particulars you are just assuming that because it seems from our view that it came out of nowhere. Fantilli just signed a few weeks ago a lot can change in that amount of time.
I mean it is possible he has been shady about all of this but something tells me that the people who needed to know knew there was a chance this could happen especially after AF went pro.
We will know soon enough...if Motzko is pissed he isn't exactly known for keeping it bottled up 😉
He played the basic standard of one year after his draft year of college hockey to take that last step of maturity before turning pro.
Puh leeeease!
@handyman I mean, Fantilli literally couldn’t sign until just a few weeks again and for all intents and purposes Michigan acted as if they knew he was gone from the second the season ended. This is quite late no matter how you try justify it. You hope Bob at least was told it was a possibility, but how he’s been talking to media sure made it seem like the impression was pretty solid Cools would be back
What are you disagreeing with? The standard that top 5 NHL draft picks usually play one season after their draft year in college?
There is zero doubt that the best course for Logan Cooley is to sign his professional contract. Adam Fantili just signed his deal, 3 years, $9.45 million guaranteed as the 3rd overall pick in the 2023 draft (Fantilli did NOT play one season after his draft year like Owen Power and most of the other Michigan guys in the top 5 of the draft).
Logan Cooley would be a fool to risk injury and postponing his second NHL contract playing essentially for free. He gains NOTHING from playing another season, especially since he would be going into a developing situation in Arizona.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
I’m going to caveat my next statement by saying I expect Cooley to sign…
My glass half full lense could see how the Coyotes and their twitter account are trying to be the tipping point to get Cooley to sign. They know he is rethinking signing and they are trying to show the love by making it very obvious that they want him in AZ now and how important he is to them. To me it seems slightly weird to have all the cryptic twitter posts but not have him officially signed yet.
Again this is probably wishful thinking on my part and my maroon colored glasses are still holding out hope that he’s not going to sign.
With how much of a wildcard the Coyotes social media has been this summer you can’t rule out anything. Radio silence from Mr. Cooley. With that being said I do expect him to sign and wish him all the best if he does!
What changed all the sudden?
Clearly Cooley's reason for going the college route was to achieve his life long goal of being an All American Scholar and since he achieved that with the announcement made yesterday it was now time to move on. ?
https://gophersports.com/news/2023/7/25/mens-hockey-two-gophers-named-all-american-scholars
We all know the timeline of events. That probably wasn’t his intent (nor do I really care about that aspect) but ultimately that’s the result.Idk about “owes” but ideally he wouldn’t jerk everyone’s chain for 2 months including Motzko and the rest of the gopher program. That said I don’t hold any ill will towards him, I just think this could’ve been approached differently.
How do you know he jerked anyone's chain?
This is assuming he signs which hasn’t even happened yet.
@handyman I mean, Fantilli literally couldn’t sign until just a few weeks again and for all intents and purposes Michigan acted as if they knew he was gone from the second the season ended. This is quite late no matter how you try justify it. You hope Bob at least was told it was a possibility, but how he’s been talking to media sure made it seem like the impression was pretty solid Cools would be back
Whether he could sign earlier or not didn't matter. His decision to sign most likely changed the calculus for Cooley and Phoenix is my point. Once dominoes start falling things can change quickly.
And I am not justifying anything I think people are overreacting to the timing. Our roster likely isnt even finalized yet. Just yesterday people were saying we should sign another forward so how is 2 that much more of a struggle? It isn't like he was the only talented forward we have...
You can feel differently...but it could always be worse. You could be a UND fan whose team is so far behind us all they have is the hope our players leave! That is right boys we know you are reading this and don't worry we will still play much later into the season than you will 
We all know the timeline of events. That surely wasn’t his intent but ultimately that’s the result.Idk about “owes” but ideally he wouldn’t jerk everyone’s chain for 2 months including Motzko and the rest of the gopher program. That said I don’t hold any ill will towards him, I just think this could’ve been approached differently.
How do you know he jerked anyone's chain?
"Jerking everyone's chain" makes it sound deliberate like this was his plan al along. I doubt that was the case. Like I said we will know soon enough.
Hey squad - this Cooley shit could still mean nothing. While I know I'm holding on to slim hopes of Ski-U-Mah loyalty... It is a summer development camp article from the Yotes. They have shit to write about or post about to energnize the worst fan base in hockey... Whatever Cooley does - he was amazing last year, could be more amazing this year, and we were lucky that he came here - not to mention he decommitted from Notre Dame in any case. We can all hope and dream about more as a sophomore - for 48 hours. Knies & Snuggy - give him a quick Maroon and Gold call. #92 - we want you back. #HobeyFavorite
PS - I'll buy the whole GPL squad at my next game chipotle if he stays... No beers though - cuz we will cheers afterwards!
@handyman I mean, Fantilli literally couldn’t sign until just a few weeks again and for all intents and purposes Michigan acted as if they knew he was gone from the second the season ended. This is quite late no matter how you try justify it. You hope Bob at least was told it was a possibility, but how he’s been talking to media sure made it seem like the impression was pretty solid Cools would be back
Whether he could sign earlier or not didn't matter. His decision to sign most likely changed the calculus for Cooley and Phoenix is my point. Once dominoes start falling things can change quickly.
And I am not justifying anything I think people are overreacting to the timing. Our roster likely isnt even finalized yet. Just yesterday people were saying we should sign another forward so how is 2 that much more of a struggle? It isn't like he was the only talented forward we have...
You can feel differently...but it could always be worse. You could be a UND fan whose team is so far behind us all they have is the hope our players leave! That is right boys we know you are reading this and don't worry we will still play much later into the season than you will
For the bolded, he's easily the best player on our team and likely the preseason frontrunner along with Celebrini to win the Hobey Baker. You don't just replace what he brings to the team by bringing in another forward from the transfer portal or having a recruit come in a year earlier than planned. I'm by no means signing off on the upcoming season but no matter who replaces him, it will be a net negative.
And off your note that the roster still isn't finalized, that's exactly why the timing of him flipping his decision is an issue. In this transfer portal era, who knows who Bob might've turned down or not gone after in the last two months off the basis that Cooley was returning? Maybe post the announcement that he's returning they decide to tell Hendrickson and Clark to go back to juniors for another season, leading to one of them transferring since they feel they are ready for college now? You just never know the potential impact that type of decision can have. And if Bob feels Hendrickson/Clark aren't ready yet but is now forced to bring in one or both of them early, that might hinder their development which in turn could impact the team's success. We'll probably never know how this decision impacted the internal decision-making for next season's roster (and beyond) but I hope for the team and coaching staff's sake that he was at least in communication with Bob before now.
Cooley obviously has to do what he feels is best for his career and I get having a change of heart, I just wish he wouldn't have publicly announced a decision until he was sure of it. Maybe that isn't possible being a 3rd-overall draft pick and getting questioned constantly about your future by the media but if I were his adviser, I'd recommend keeping that decision private until it was final.
I just think based on the entire timeline of events that’s how it feels as a fan, whatever his intent may be. No idea how Motzko or the players feel but I wouldn’t be surprised nor blame them if they shared that view. Given all the factors at play (the Yotes org being a disjointed incompetent mess from what I’ve read) I’m not really looking to denigrate Cooley’s character, as you indicated I don’t know enough to do that and have no reason to.We all know the timeline of events. That surely wasn’t his intent but ultimately that’s the result.Idk about “owes” but ideally he wouldn’t jerk everyone’s chain for 2 months including Motzko and the rest of the gopher program. That said I don’t hold any ill will towards him, I just think this could’ve been approached differently.
How do you know he jerked anyone's chain?
"Jerking everyone's chain" makes it sound deliberate like this was his plan al along. I doubt that was the case. Like I said we will know soon enough.
You’re right that I don’t know the circumstances and if he signed to the Coyotes and said something along the lines of, “ hey sorry for the confusion, here’s what happened… go gophers!”, I’d be perfectly fine with that, I think most would. He’s one of my favorite gophers of all time regardless of what he decides here, I just hope we get a solid affirmation from the guy one way or the other and be done with it.
I'm a fan and don't feel the same way. ?
@handyman I mean, Fantilli literally couldn’t sign until just a few weeks again and for all intents and purposes Michigan acted as if they knew he was gone from the second the season ended. This is quite late no matter how you try justify it. You hope Bob at least was told it was a possibility, but how he’s been talking to media sure made it seem like the impression was pretty solid Cools would be back
Whether he could sign earlier or not didn't matter. His decision to sign most likely changed the calculus for Cooley and Phoenix is my point. Once dominoes start falling things can change quickly.
And I am not justifying anything I think people are overreacting to the timing. Our roster likely isnt even finalized yet. Just yesterday people were saying we should sign another forward so how is 2 that much more of a struggle? It isn't like he was the only talented forward we have...
You can feel differently...but it could always be worse. You could be a UND fan whose team is so far behind us all they have is the hope our players leave! That is right boys we know you are reading this and don't worry we will still play much later into the season than you will
Hey man be nice they don’t have much to cheer for these days?
@handyman I mean, Fantilli literally couldn’t sign until just a few weeks again and for all intents and purposes Michigan acted as if they knew he was gone from the second the season ended. This is quite late no matter how you try justify it. You hope Bob at least was told it was a possibility, but how he’s been talking to media sure made it seem like the impression was pretty solid Cools would be back
Whether he could sign earlier or not didn't matter. His decision to sign most likely changed the calculus for Cooley and Phoenix is my point. Once dominoes start falling things can change quickly.
And I am not justifying anything I think people are overreacting to the timing. Our roster likely isnt even finalized yet. Just yesterday people were saying we should sign another forward so how is 2 that much more of a struggle? It isn't like he was the only talented forward we have...
You can feel differently...but it could always be worse. You could be a UND fan whose team is so far behind us all they have is the hope our players leave! That is right boys we know you are reading this and don't worry we will still play much later into the season than you will
For the bolded, he's easily the best player on our team and likely the preseason frontrunner along with Celebrini to win the Hobey Baker. You don't just replace what he brings to the team by bringing in another forward from the transfer portal or having a recruit come in a year earlier than planned. I'm by no means signing off on the upcoming season but no matter who replaces him, it will be a net negative.
And off your note that the roster still isn't finalized, that's exactly why the timing of him flipping his decision is an issue. In this transfer portal era, who knows who Bob might've turned down or not gone after in the last two months off the basis that Cooley was returning? Maybe post the announcement that he's returning they decide to tell Hendrickson and Clark to go back to juniors for another season, leading to one of them transferring since they feel they are ready for college now? You just never know the potential impact that type of decision can have. And if Bob feels Hendrickson/Clark aren't ready yet but is now forced to bring in one or both of them early, that might hinder their development which in turn could impact the team's success. We'll probably never know how this decision impacted the internal decision-making for next season's roster (and beyond) but I hope for the team and coaching staff's sake that he was at least in communication with Bob before now.
Cooley obviously has to do what he feels is best for his career and I get having a change of heart, I just wish he wouldn't have publicly announced a decision until he was sure of it. Maybe that isn't possible being a 3rd-overall draft pick and getting questioned constantly about your future by the media but if I were his adviser, I'd recommend keeping that decision private until it was final.
Yes, no amount of "we'll be fine" compensates for the loss of the team's best forward, and the best player in college hockey. There is no plug-in or bolt-on that tops off the tank as Cooley does.
This is a college hockey first-world problem, so nobody is going to feel sorry for Minnesota. Recruiting phenoms is a tricky business. It's one thing to plan ahead for a one-year player, but it can't be fun reshuffling the deck in August.
My regret is that I wanted to see this team with both Cooley and Moore playing together. That would have been epic.
Arizona needs to sell tickets, so their push to sign Cooley isn't a shock. Fans always say the smart money is on signing (risk of injury etc.), but if a player gets knocked around in the AHL until his muscles sprout, that's not fun for the player and the risk of injury is even higher than in college. In that light, college hockey may be the better route. The comparison to Fantilli I feel is a little misguided because he is much stronger and more mature than Cooley.
Hey I would rather he stay...but let's not pretend we can't absorb the loss. Who in the Big Ten has a better roster than us? How many teams nationwide do?
@handyman I mean, Fantilli literally couldn’t sign until just a few weeks again and for all intents and purposes Michigan acted as if they knew he was gone from the second the season ended. This is quite late no matter how you try justify it. You hope Bob at least was told it was a possibility, but how he’s been talking to media sure made it seem like the impression was pretty solid Cools would be back
Whether he could sign earlier or not didn't matter. His decision to sign most likely changed the calculus for Cooley and Phoenix is my point. Once dominoes start falling things can change quickly.
And I am not justifying anything I think people are overreacting to the timing. Our roster likely isnt even finalized yet. Just yesterday people were saying we should sign another forward so how is 2 that much more of a struggle? It isn't like he was the only talented forward we have...
You can feel differently...but it could always be worse. You could be a UND fan whose team is so far behind us all they have is the hope our players leave! That is right boys we know you are reading this and don't worry we will still play much later into the season than you will
Hey man be nice they don’t have much to cheer for these days?
The team would still be good I’m just greedy and want to see an unprecedented level of depth and talent at forward.