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CM - age 20, 76 games played, 12 goals, 13 assists, 25 points. Made over $1 million ? salary + bonus. Joel Eriksson Ek - age 22, 57 GP, 7-7-14. Luke Kunin - age 21, 47 GP 6-11-17. Jordan Greenway- age 22, 80 GP, 12-12-24. Or CM could have returned to the U and played on the FOURTH BEST team in MN. LMAO regarding whether he made the right decision to sign with Buffalo ☝️


   
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I'm not disagreeing with you that signing was a good move for him, but had he stayed the Gophers don't likely end up the, "4th best team in MN" this season. I'm sure you've got a snappy last word reply coming so...


   
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I’ll simply pass...rather than swatting that hanging curveball...but if you want to conject on which team they “would have” surpassed, feel free.


   
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Bad news for Schierhorn. Springfield (AHL) released a goalie and he was sent to Adirondack. Schierhorn gets released from his ECHL contract.

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Sadly it's not really hard to see why:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?encode=TRUE&pid=161160

14 GAA and a 0.831 save % is disappointing.


   
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Romanko ties his goal output this year in game one of his ECHL career hahaha


   
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Nah Casey isn’t that good it wouldn’t have made a difference ;)


   
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trixR4kids wrote:

Nah Casey isn’t that good it wouldn’t have made a difference ;)

If Casey and Lindgren had come back, I think we would have had a lot different season.


   
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Norm wrote:

trixR4kids wrote:

Nah Casey isn’t that good it wouldn’t have made a difference ;)

If Casey and Lindgren had come back, I think we would have had a lot different season.

They would have been in the tournament.


   
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The world needs more Nate Schmidts

[media] https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1113895010401837056 [/media]

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frozen4champs wrote:

The world needs more Nate Schmidts

[media] https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1113895010401837056 [/media]br>

thats for sure good dude always has a smile


   
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His comedic delivery is a mix of Frank Serratore and Matt Greene in an old episode of Brad Miller Time on YouTube.


   
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Poehling has two in his first NHL game.


   
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And Lindgren is between the pipes for them.


   
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Regular season ending tonight so I'll probably start to compile stats and comparisons for Gophers vs Whioux vs badgers vs Bulldogs vs Jans in the NHL this year. Maybe throw Mavericks in there since it won't take long to add.


   
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Yet it's odd for me to place a bet on how many points a player scores in a given season. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:


   
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Jimmy Schuldt and Blake Lizotte will also make their NHL debuts tonight.


   
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Poehling hat trick


   
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I believe fewer than ten players have EVER done that in the NHL.

Poehling gets the SO winner in round 4.


   
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Guentzel with his 40th tonight.


   
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So, is that 3 more, or 2 more than against AIC?


   
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92 players from UMN, UND, uw, UMD, SCSU, MNSU, and BSU played in the NHL this year. Just about 10% of NHLers this year came through the seven schools.

Most Players with Appearances

UMN: 22 (12F, 10D)

UND: 21 (15F, 5D, 1G)

uw: 15 (7F, 7D, 1G)

SCSU: 14 (8F, 5D, 1G)

UMD: 13 (6F, 5D, 2G)

MNSU: 5 (3F, 2D)

BSU: 2 (1F, 1D)

How many years at each school?

UMN: 1 = 18%, 2 = 14%, 3 = 41%, 4 = 27%

UND: 1 = 5%, 2 = 29%, 3 = 48%, 4 = 19%

uw: 1 = 13%, 2 = 33%, 3 = 40%, 4 = 13%

SCSU: 1 = 7%, 2 = 21%, 3 = 36%, 4 = 36%

UMD: 1 = 15%, 2 = 38%, 3 = 15%, 4 = 31%

MNSU: 1 = 20%, 2 = 0%, 3 = 60%, 4 = 20%

BSU: 1 = 0%, 2 = 0%, 3 = 0%, 4 = 100%

Total: 1 = 12%, 2 = 24%, 3 = 38%, 4 = 26%

Drafted or undrafted?

UMN: 86% drafted, 14% undrafted

UND: 81% drafted, 19% undrafted

uw: 93% drafted, 7% undrafted

SCSU: 64% drafted, 36% undrafted

UMD: 46% drafted, 54% undrafted

MNSU: 60% drafted, 40% undrafted

BSU: 0% drafted, 100% undrafted

Total: 74% drafted, 26% undrafted

How many played college hockey in the last five seasons? (14-15 - 18-19)

UMN: 10

UND: 9

uw: 2 (yikes)

SCSU: 9

UMD: 8

MNSU: 3

BSU: 0

Random observations

-33% first rounders, 52% top three rounds, 26% undrafted

-Other than Cullen (96-97), class of 03-04 have been around the longest (Vanek, Parise, Suter, Hendricks)

-Wild clearly have the most from the list with 10

-75% Americans, 20% Canadians, 2 Finnish, 1, Austrian, 1 Danish, 1 Latvian


   
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Bonin21 wrote:

92 players from UMN, UND, uw, UMD, SCSU, MNSU, and BSU played in the NHL this year. Just about 1% of NHLers this year.

That should be 10% shouldn't it?


   
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JC65 wrote:

Bonin21 wrote:

92 players from UMN, UND, uw, UMD, SCSU, MNSU, and BSU played in the NHL this year. Just about 1% of NHLers this year.

That should be 10% shouldn't it?

Math is hard


   
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Pretty ripping cool.

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That is just totally nuts. It’s cliche to say, but you couldn’t write a story like that if you tried. Suits up for 1 game, their last game and does that? He got 1st Star of the Game too and in his interview, the guy said “Ryan, you are going to have a good summer”. Um, yeah. The Habs have to be licking their chops now and the jersey sales will skyrocket. Nuts.


   
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MNGophers29 wrote:

That is just totally nuts. It’s cliche to say, but you couldn’t write a story like that if you tried. Suits up for 1 game, their last game and does that? He got 1st Star of the Game too and in his interview, the guy said “Ryan, you are going to have a good summer”. Um, yeah. The Habs have to be licking their chops now and the jersey sales will skyrocket. Nuts.

Amazing to think that he couldn't get a couple against American International LOL.


   
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D2D wrote:

MNGophers29 wrote:

That is just totally nuts. It’s cliche to say, but you couldn’t write a story like that if you tried. Suits up for 1 game, their last game and does that? He got 1st Star of the Game too and in his interview, the guy said “Ryan, you are going to have a good summer”. Um, yeah. The Habs have to be licking their chops now and the jersey sales will skyrocket. Nuts.

Amazing to think that he couldn't get a couple against American International LOL.

And only 8 the entire year.


   
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YIJQ1jgEI So 34, did U win your CM prop bet?


   
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https://www.twincities.com/2019/04/07/wild-winger-j-t-brown-arrested-in-dallas-misses-teams-final-game-of-season/

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Wild winger J.T. Brown was arrested at a Dallas bar early Saturday morning on suspicion of public drunkenness, missing the team’s final game of the season against the Stars later that day.

   
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JC65 wrote:
< https://www.twincities.com/2019/04/07/wild-winger-j-t-brown-arrested-in-dallas-misses-teams-final-game-of-season/

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Wild winger J.T. Brown was arrested at a Dallas bar early Saturday morning on suspicion of public drunkenness, missing the team’s final game of the season against the Stars later that day.

Duluth proud. Must have thought the Frozen Four was last Saturday night.

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I'll start compiling stats for the regular season tonight. I've looked at the raw data quite a bit and will pick out the most interesting stuff.

For the NHL this year, "Minnesota led all schools with 22 alumni in the NHL, followed by Boston College (21), Michigan (21), North Dakota (21) and Boston University (20)."

What do these schools have in common? We're now just farm teams for the league, so we should have our own tournament! lol


   
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bearpaw28 wrote:
< https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YIJQ1jgEI So 34, did U win your CM prop bet?

Indeed, he didn't hit 30 points and he played in over 60 games. Almost more enjoyable though was watching Tage Thompson get to have the fun he complained he didn't get in St. Louis out in Buffalo. Wow, what a steal for O'Reilly.


   
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$ - https://theathletic.com/930356/2019/04/18/forward-look-whats-a-reasonable-expectation-for-casey-mittelstadts-second-full-nhl-season/

Good breakdown of Casey's season in Buffalo.

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“I always was a scorer on the teams where I played,” Jokinen said. “But I was not ready to be a scorer at the NHL level because it was the best league in the world. I was a good scorer against my own age and a good scorer in Europe, but I was not quite there when I got to the NHL.

“I had absolutely no idea what I needed to do to play in the league, what kind of shape you need to be in, how much work you actually have to put in just to be an impact player. For me, it took some time to understand that talent only takes you to a certain level. You also have to put the work in, you know?”

Selfishly watching college hockey, would have been fun to see him put that work in playing college hockey.


   
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Second year in college worked out pretty nicely for Makar, but for every Makar there’s an Okposo or Schroeder. It’s too bad CM didn’t want to take the more patient approach (especially after he did it in high school), but if the player thinks they’re ready I’d rather have them move on than stay and potentially become a cancer in the locker room.


   
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Vegoe wrote:

$ - https://theathletic.com/930356/2019/04/18/forward-look-whats-a-reasonable-expectation-for-casey-mittelstadts-second-full-nhl-season/

Good breakdown of Casey's season in Buffalo.

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“I always was a scorer on the teams where I played,” Jokinen said. “But I was not ready to be a scorer at the NHL level because it was the best league in the world. I was a good scorer against my own age and a good scorer in Europe, but I was not quite there when I got to the NHL.

“I had absolutely no idea what I needed to do to play in the league, what kind of shape you need to be in, how much work you actually have to put in just to be an impact player. For me, it took some time to understand that talent only takes you to a certain level. You also have to put the work in, you know?”

Selfishly watching college hockey, would have been fun to see him put that work in playing college hockey.

Is the inference here that Middlestadt didn't put in the work to get the results? I don't have access to The Athletic, but is the subject of Jokinen's comments related to a question about CM?

I felt CM was not ready physically for the rigors of the NHL. As a very young and immature player, going from a comparatively cushy college weekend schedule to an 82 game regular season, plus potentially 30 more games for pre-season and post season - not to mention practices and weight training, has to be a enormous adjustment and one that CM may not have been ready for. Think for a minute about CM in the corner digging for a puck against Koivu. Those guys physically are on different planets.

I have watched junior high kids who have the skill to play in high school and high school players who have the skill set to play in college. Then there are college freshmen who have all the tools to play in the NHL. But if those players are physically not ready to move up, they should stay put for that reason alone.


   
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No Jokinen was talking about his own development.


   
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Gopher Fan 26 wrote:

No Jokinen was talking about his own development.

I think the writer is inferring that Casey didn't quite know what he was getting into this season.


   
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Vegoe wrote:

Gopher Fan 26 wrote:

No Jokinen was talking about his own development.

I think the writer is inferring that Casey didn't quite know what he was getting into this season.

Agreed, just clarifying that Jokinen was not commenting on Casey specifically.


   
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streakygopher wrote:

Vegoe wrote:

$ - https://theathletic.com/930356/2019/04/18/forward-look-whats-a-reasonable-expectation-for-casey-mittelstadts-second-full-nhl-season/

Good breakdown of Casey's season in Buffalo.

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“I always was a scorer on the teams where I played,” Jokinen said. “But I was not ready to be a scorer at the NHL level because it was the best league in the world. I was a good scorer against my own age and a good scorer in Europe, but I was not quite there when I got to the NHL.

“I had absolutely no idea what I needed to do to play in the league, what kind of shape you need to be in, how much work you actually have to put in just to be an impact player. For me, it took some time to understand that talent only takes you to a certain level. You also have to put the work in, you know?”

Selfishly watching college hockey, would have been fun to see him put that work in playing college hockey.

Is the inference here that Middlestadt didn't put in the work to get the results? I don't have access to The Athletic, but is the subject of Jokinen's comments related to a question about CM?

I felt CM was not ready physically for the rigors of the NHL. As a very young and immature player, going from a comparatively cushy college weekend schedule to an 82 game regular season, plus potentially 30 more games for pre-season and post season - not to mention practices and weight training, has to be a enormous adjustment and one that CM may not have been ready for. Think for a minute about CM in the corner digging for a puck against Koivu. Those guys physically are on different planets.

I have watched junior high kids who have the skill to play in high school and high school players who have the skill set to play in college. Then there are college freshmen who have all the tools to play in the NHL. But if those players are physically not ready to move up, they should stay put for that reason alone.

Casey made a choice to learn on the job. He dreamed of being a Gopher and got to experience that too. As long as he continues to improve next season (which I firmly believe he will) and stays injury free (there’s luck involved in that) he will be signing a new contract for minimum the 20-21 season, although more likely for multiple years ...likely with a hefty pay increase over entry level contract. And he made over $1 million dollars this season learning on the job. Gopher fans can be butt-hurt if they choose (thinking Thirty-Four here in particular) about him leaving after one year, and can second guess it until the cows come home...or simply wish him future success, move on and be proud of the accomplishments of an alumni player.


   
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On a different topic, after watching Lindgren at the U for two years, all I can think is he’s got NHL defensemen written all over him. I hope he gets the chance to play steady minutes in New York next year.


   
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Both Casey and Lindgren should have stayed another year. They didn't, got NHL games in, and that's that.


   
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It was just bad timing, the coach changed and they got offers to play in the NHL, it was mostly unavoidable from the U's perspective and I can understand why they chose to go that route.


   
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trixR4kids wrote:

It was just bad timing, the coach changed and they got offers to play in the NHL, it was mostly unavoidable from the U's perspective and I can understand why they chose to go that route.

Not how it turned out this year for Ryan, but for Casey there were over a million reasons ?


   
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Lindgren got some NHL time I know so hopefully that helped a bit.


   
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bearpaw28 wrote:

streakygopher wrote:

Vegoe wrote:

$ - https://theathletic.com/930356/2019/04/18/forward-look-whats-a-reasonable-expectation-for-casey-mittelstadts-second-full-nhl-season/

Good breakdown of Casey's season in Buffalo.

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“I always was a scorer on the teams where I played,” Jokinen said. “But I was not ready to be a scorer at the NHL level because it was the best league in the world. I was a good scorer against my own age and a good scorer in Europe, but I was not quite there when I got to the NHL.

“I had absolutely no idea what I needed to do to play in the league, what kind of shape you need to be in, how much work you actually have to put in just to be an impact player. For me, it took some time to understand that talent only takes you to a certain level. You also have to put the work in, you know?”

Selfishly watching college hockey, would have been fun to see him put that work in playing college hockey.

Is the inference here that Middlestadt didn't put in the work to get the results? I don't have access to The Athletic, but is the subject of Jokinen's comments related to a question about CM?

I felt CM was not ready physically for the rigors of the NHL. As a very young and immature player, going from a comparatively cushy college weekend schedule to an 82 game regular season, plus potentially 30 more games for pre-season and post season - not to mention practices and weight training, has to be a enormous adjustment and one that CM may not have been ready for. Think for a minute about CM in the corner digging for a puck against Koivu. Those guys physically are on different planets.

I have watched junior high kids who have the skill to play in high school and high school players who have the skill set to play in college. Then there are college freshmen who have all the tools to play in the NHL. But if those players are physically not ready to move up, they should stay put for that reason alone.

Casey made a choice to learn on the job. He dreamed of being a Gopher and got to experience that too. As long as he continues to improve next season (which I firmly believe he will) and stays injury free (there’s luck involved in that) he will be signing a new contract for minimum the 20-21 season, although more likely for multiple years ...likely with a hefty pay increase over entry level contract. And he made over $1 million dollars this season learning on the job. Gopher fans can be butt-hurt if they choose (thinking Thirty-Four here in particular) about him leaving after one year, and can second guess it until the cows come home...or simply wish him future success, move on and be proud of the accomplishments of an alumni player.

Butt hurt that he left? I didn't think much of him when he was here. LoL


   
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Thirty-Four wrote:

bearpaw28 wrote:

streakygopher wrote:

Vegoe wrote:

$ - https://theathletic.com/930356/2019/04/18/forward-look-whats-a-reasonable-expectation-for-casey-mittelstadts-second-full-nhl-season/

Good breakdown of Casey's season in Buffalo.

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“I always was a scorer on the teams where I played,” Jokinen said. “But I was not ready to be a scorer at the NHL level because it was the best league in the world. I was a good scorer against my own age and a good scorer in Europe, but I was not quite there when I got to the NHL.

“I had absolutely no idea what I needed to do to play in the league, what kind of shape you need to be in, how much work you actually have to put in just to be an impact player. For me, it took some time to understand that talent only takes you to a certain level. You also have to put the work in, you know?”

Selfishly watching college hockey, would have been fun to see him put that work in playing college hockey.

Is the inference here that Middlestadt didn't put in the work to get the results? I don't have access to The Athletic, but is the subject of Jokinen's comments related to a question about CM?

I felt CM was not ready physically for the rigors of the NHL. As a very young and immature player, going from a comparatively cushy college weekend schedule to an 82 game regular season, plus potentially 30 more games for pre-season and post season - not to mention practices and weight training, has to be a enormous adjustment and one that CM may not have been ready for. Think for a minute about CM in the corner digging for a puck against Koivu. Those guys physically are on different planets.

I have watched junior high kids who have the skill to play in high school and high school players who have the skill set to play in college. Then there are college freshmen who have all the tools to play in the NHL. But if those players are physically not ready to move up, they should stay put for that reason alone.

Casey made a choice to learn on the job. He dreamed of being a Gopher and got to experience that too. As long as he continues to improve next season (which I firmly believe he will) and stays injury free (there’s luck involved in that) he will be signing a new contract for minimum the 20-21 season, although more likely for multiple years ...likely with a hefty pay increase over entry level contract. And he made over $1 million dollars this season learning on the job. Gopher fans can be butt-hurt if they choose (thinking Thirty-Four here in particular) about him leaving after one year, and can second guess it until the cows come home...or simply wish him future success, move on and be proud of the accomplishments of an alumni player.

Butt hurt that he left? I didn't think much of him when he was here. LoL

For as much as I do give you sh-t 34 ..you do make me laugh, which is ? ? :ahhh:


   
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Not sure if this is the place but Aaron Ness taken off the ice on a stretcher. Lost an edge and went into boards headfirst. Pretty ugly. Apparently he's okay.


   
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ProudAlum89 wrote:

Not sure if this is the place but Aaron Ness taken off the ice on a stretcher. Lost an edge and went into boards headfirst. Pretty ugly. Apparently he's okay.

That happened Friday. As far as I’ve heard he was released from the hospital the next day but the nature of his injuries were not disclosed.


   
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Blame it on choosing to live in wisconsin.


   
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