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This is the Gopher Puck Live Podcast, part of the Pulltab Sports family.
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Oh boy.
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Jup making mistakes.
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I love it.
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Wait, did you drink the entire bottle?
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Almost.
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Oh, okay.
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Never mind.
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There we go.
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I don't want to talk about it.
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Not until, not until.
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Nick put bottles on Thursday, Friday night at Grandma's Restaurant, Saloon 18, party 21, drink, come on down.
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Leo, how was your recruiting?
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I mean, you, I mean.
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My recruiting, I probably had 76 D1 offers.
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Now, here's Jupiter and Vegoe.
1:02
Jûpe
Good evening and welcome to the GPL podcast.
1:05
Jûpe
Episode number 308.
1:10
Jûpe
Well, a lot's happened in the last week, Veegs, a lot's happened.
1:14
Vegoe
Yeah, I tried to get away for a little bit of a weekend up north.
1:17
Vegoe
And I was thinking I'd just unplug a little bit, you know, take some time to relax.
1:21
Vegoe
I think I was probably on my phone more this last week than I've been in quite some time.
1:27
Vegoe
It was fun reaching out with all of our sources out there trying to pin this coach higher down.
1:33
Vegoe
But they finally got their guy.
1:34
Vegoe
Like I said, Mark Coyle likes to act quickly.
1:37
Vegoe
And, you know, Tuesday, here we go.
1:41
Jûpe
Too bad it wasn't Monday when they had the other announcement at the same time.
1:45
Jûpe
We were there back to back days, weren't we?
1:47
Vegoe
Probably a little bit.
1:48
Vegoe
You know, they didn't want to take the shine off of Greg May's hiring Monday.
1:53
Vegoe
Or maybe there were some loose ends to wrap up for, you know, there probably was some loose ends.
1:57
Jûpe
I'm guessing there was some loose ends.
1:59
Jûpe
Let me do something real quick here.
2:01
Jûpe
Let me see right there, Veegs.
2:03
Jûpe
There he is.
2:04
Jûpe
Our new coach.
2:06
Jûpe
Brett Larson.
2:08
Jûpe
Initial thoughts?
2:11
Vegoe
Well, I do think of all the candidates out there.
2:13
Vegoe
Brett Larson was probably the safest hire that they could have made.
2:17
Jûpe
Okay.
2:17
Vegoe
He's a guy who gets it, how to be part of a program is like a CEO.
2:22
Vegoe
You know, we've talked about how important that is with college hockey these days, is you can't just be a coach, can't just be a recruiter.
2:29
Vegoe
You've got to be a marketer.
2:30
Vegoe
You've got to be a media personality.
2:32
Vegoe
You've got to be able to do the GM part of it and manage your roster.
2:36
Vegoe
I think Brett Larson checks a lot of those boxes that Mark Coil is looking to hire in a head coach.
2:43
Vegoe
And I, you know, all the people I've talked to in the last week have spoken very highly of Brett.
2:48
Vegoe
And they are excited for him to get out of St.
2:50
Vegoe
Cloud, because that is an institution that's going to be a challenge for anybody to bring back to the success that they were used to before Brett got there.
3:00
Vegoe
And Minnesota got the guy.
3:03
Jûpe
I will be honest, at first, when I started hearing his name last week, I was getting a little nervous.
3:07
Jûpe
I'm like, guy, St.
3:09
Jûpe
Cloud hasn't been doing good.
3:12
Jûpe
A lot of Gopher fans.
3:15
Jûpe
Oh, no, don't pick him.
3:16
Jûpe
Oh, I'm ticked now.
3:18
Jûpe
I can't believe you picked him.
3:20
Jûpe
And then I started, you know, actually looking at his resume.
3:24
Jûpe
You know, you look at he's been under quite a few guys.
3:28
Jûpe
He's been at the World's Juniors.
3:29
Jûpe
He's won a couple of national championships as an assistant coach.
3:33
Jûpe
He's at the Olympics.
3:40
Jûpe
But the St.
3:40
Jûpe
Cloud record doesn't look great.
3:42
Jûpe
But boy, it certainly coincides with the beginning of NIL when things started going downhill at St.
3:49
Jûpe
Cloud.
3:50
Jûpe
And now the last year or two, it's changed quite a bit.
3:55
Jûpe
And maybe he got out of Dodge at the right time.
4:00
Vegoe
Yeah, you can always say that he's leaving with a program on the decline.
4:05
Vegoe
But when he was there, he got them to a frozen four.
4:07
Jûpe
That's just it.
4:08
Vegoe
You know, he got them into the NCAA tournament in a very tough league, then CHC, and he held on to some good players who came back to play for him extra years.
4:17
Vegoe
I think the last two years, probably not the best for St.
4:20
Vegoe
Cloud.
4:21
Vegoe
But I think there's a lot of circumstances surrounding that situation that is going to make it hard to be successful there.
4:28
Vegoe
But when you look at Brett, you know, he was a guy who recruited key players for UMD's championships.
4:34
Vegoe
He was a guy that was picked by David Karl to help out at World Juniors, and they had a lot of success there.
4:41
Jûpe
He helped Ohio State too.
4:43
Vegoe
He helped Ohio State too.
4:44
Vegoe
That's right.
4:44
Vegoe
Steve Roelich and him were together, and you know, he did good things there as well.
4:49
Vegoe
And all these people speak highly of him.
4:52
Vegoe
None of them were upset when he left for other jobs because they appreciated the character that he has.
4:58
Vegoe
And I think that's a key thing to consider going forward.
5:01
Jûpe
And it basically falls into the thing we've been fearing for quite a few years now.
5:08
Jûpe
St.
5:08
Jûpe
Cloud is a city not thriving.
5:10
Jûpe
St.
5:10
Jûpe
Cloud is a university declining enrollment.
5:16
Jûpe
Something, you know, we're supposed to hate on St.
5:19
Jûpe
Cloud.
5:19
Jûpe
Yes, you hate on your rivalries.
5:21
Jûpe
But only to a point, Veegs, and I am genuinely concerned about this program.
5:27
Jûpe
And it probably definitely affected Brett Larson because he knows, like, gosh, I'm not getting this kind of support.
5:34
Jûpe
I need to run the kind of program that St.
5:37
Jûpe
Cloud needs.
5:39
Vegoe
Yeah.
5:39
Vegoe
And like their ice rink has gained some renovations underway this summer.
5:42
Vegoe
But a lot of that's state funded.
5:44
Vegoe
You know, it's not like the donors came through with a bunch of money to do the renovations there.
5:48
Vegoe
So I just think that the college landscape is changing quite a bit right now.
5:53
Vegoe
And it's moving under our feet.
5:55
Vegoe
And Minnesota gives him an opportunity to be really aggressive there.
5:59
Vegoe
And I think Gopher fans probably are going to have to be patient and see what he does this summer.
6:06
Vegoe
Because I think as soon as the Frozen Four is over, this staff is going to be very aggressive going out and getting players in the portal, getting players in the CHL and, you know, maybe shaking up the recruiting pipeline just a little bit.
6:21
Jûpe
So Brett Larson, he's 53 years old.
6:24
Jûpe
He's my age, turns 54, I believe, in August.
6:30
Jûpe
Nice, I love a Gen Xer.
6:31
Jûpe
Now we got a Gen Xer in there finally.
6:33
Jûpe
My generation.
6:36
Jûpe
Yes, he's had some yes, he's had a lot of success.
6:39
Jûpe
From Duluth, a Denfeld kid, a Northern kid.
6:44
Jûpe
What's the intangibles he brings?
6:47
Vegoe
I think just his ability to connect and the ability to be a little bit more of a.
6:53
Vegoe
Coach who's engaged with his players like you could even see it in his team meeting.
6:58
Vegoe
You know he's not standing up.
6:59
Vegoe
No, I wish traces he was taking a stall.
7:03
Vegoe
Yeah, I was in a stall and he's looking everybody in the eye at the same level and he just wants to connect with players that way.
7:08
Vegoe
You know you heard about Brock Faber, his public comments to Mike Russo, you know, touting how good of a guy he is at coaching and connecting.
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Vegoe
And I think that's a key.
7:17
Vegoe
You know, I think you heard from a couple former players as well that were impressed with Brett's ability to connect.
7:23
Jûpe
Yeah, I was just thinking the exact same thing.
7:27
Jûpe
Him sitting there just kind of almost like BSing with the guys.
7:33
Jûpe
It's quite interesting and poor V.
7:34
Jûpe
He's a little under the weather.
7:35
Jûpe
He's got some tea going tonight.
7:37
Jûpe
What kind of tea is it?
7:38
Jûpe
What do you get a little?
7:39
Vegoe
We'll throw a code going.
7:40
Jûpe
There you go.
7:41
Jûpe
Now it's a little honey in there.
7:43
Jûpe
Not yet.
7:44
Vegoe
Not yet.
7:45
Vegoe
Oh, I keep the sweeteners out of there.
7:46
Jûpe
It's that northern trip you took.
7:48
Jûpe
It took a little audio.
7:49
Jûpe
You know, that that temperature off the lake maybe was affecting you.
7:52
Vegoe
Something.
7:53
Vegoe
We'll see.
7:53
Vegoe
Hopefully a rally out really quick.
7:55
Jûpe
So it was it's interesting.
7:59
Jûpe
So when Matsuko is let go, the rest of the staff is not let go at the same time.
8:03
Jûpe
They kept running basically the program, just the day to day operations.
8:08
Jûpe
All the coaches were there during the first meeting we had on Monday for boom.
8:15
Jûpe
And they were all there yesterday.
8:17
Jûpe
So it's not like the whole thing just disappears right away.
8:19
Jûpe
It was just Bob let go.
8:22
Jûpe
But now comes their evaluation.
8:24
Jûpe
So we've heard a lot of rumors, blah, blah, blah.
8:26
Jûpe
But he's going to take the next couple of days, probably the rest of this week and evaluate the current staff.
8:33
Vegoe
Yeah, I believe the staff contracts run through the end of April for these coaches.
8:38
Vegoe
So there is a little bit of a time there where they're, you know, they're still under contract here.
8:41
Vegoe
They're still doing the work.
8:42
Vegoe
They're still going to be transitioning guys to the next staff.
8:46
Vegoe
I remember Scott Bell and Motzko was hired, didn't really have any conversations about whether he's going to be retained or not.
8:52
Vegoe
And then Motzko was on the radio with Paul Allen.
8:54
Vegoe
I think he said, oh yeah, Scott Bell, he'll be back.
8:56
Vegoe
He's a good recruiter.
8:58
Vegoe
And Scott was just like, well, I guess I'm going to be back.
9:00
Vegoe
You know, he didn't know up until that moment.
9:04
Vegoe
But we'll see.
9:04
Vegoe
You know, I'm sure Brett Larson has some of his own guys.
9:07
Vegoe
You know, Corey Leyland's been rumored to be one of the guys who might be on staff.
9:11
Vegoe
Matt Cullen could be a part of the staff somehow.
9:15
Vegoe
You know, he's probably, you know, clued in to be like a GM type role, player development role.
9:20
Vegoe
He's been involved with Fargo.
9:22
Vegoe
He's been involved with Moorhead.
9:23
Vegoe
And of course, his family has done very well developing some young hockey players.
9:27
Vegoe
So he's very familiar with these age groups.
9:30
Vegoe
And then Paul Martin might be a member of the staff.
9:33
Vegoe
You know, we've often wondered, you know, does he want to take that next step and be a full-time coach?
9:39
Vegoe
Or is he happy in his role that he currently has?
9:42
Vegoe
So I think, you know, that stuff will play out probably over the next two weeks and see what actually does work for the staff.
9:49
Vegoe
And if anybody does get retained from the current staff, we'll see.
9:54
Jûpe
Because ideally, you need to be kind of set before, really the Frozen Four, before the Hubbub gets going and everyone's going out to Vegas.
10:01
Jûpe
They're meeting each other.
10:02
Jûpe
And definitely before the portal opens on, I believe, the 13th, the Monday after Frozen Four.
10:09
Vegoe
Yeah, especially if you have someone who's in that jam role that's trying to set up that kind of philosophy and format and engagement with, you know, the hockey community.
10:17
Vegoe
You would like that in place as quickly as possible.
10:20
Vegoe
And I think that's one of the reasons why Mark Coyle wanted to move quickly.
10:23
Vegoe
He's done this before.
10:25
Vegoe
You know, Nico Medved, Don Plawisky, Keegan Cook.
10:29
Vegoe
These are all hires that were made during the men's basketball tournament, where he's traveling, he's trying to fit in Zooms as much as he can.
10:36
Vegoe
And he's talking to people at these, you know, tournaments and things and trying to get the best, you know, inside intel that he can get.
10:44
Vegoe
And, you know, it's worked out pretty well for women's basketball this year.
10:47
Vegoe
They're going to the Sweet 16.
10:48
Vegoe
And, you know, I think Nico Medved's doing some good things with men's basketball and Keegan Cook and volleyball as well.
10:54
Vegoe
So, you know, Mark, you know, he's taking a lot of flack right now from the community.
11:00
Vegoe
But these hires have been pretty good.
11:03
Jûpe
And that's, but here's the thing, you're going to hear flack everywhere.
11:07
Jûpe
You're going to have, you're going to have people say, oh, this is the worst hire I've I can't look at his record over the last three years.
11:12
Jûpe
He's terrible.
11:13
Jûpe
I'm like, there's just people need to have their little vision, a little wider scope of weeks instead of just looking at one little thing, don't they?
11:24
Vegoe
Well, I think the thing you look at with Brett is the championships he's been a part of.
11:29
Vegoe
He's he's been a key player in these.
11:31
Vegoe
And it's not like these coaches have said, no, you know, he was along for the ride.
11:36
Vegoe
You know, he was a major component of those programs that had success.
11:40
Vegoe
And we asked him a little bit about what makes him a difference maker on a staff when it comes to winning championships.
11:46
Vegoe
And he talked a little bit about his attention to detail, you know, putting his thumb on players and getting the grit out of them that he needs and just putting together a roster that's confident going into these tournaments is a big part of it.
11:59
Jûpe
You know, that was the first time I'd act, you know, I never really got to meet Bob like you did.
12:04
Jûpe
I'm always just the kind of the guy in the background.
12:06
Jûpe
So this time I made sure I went up and introduced myself to Brett Larson.
12:10
Jûpe
Seemed like a very personable guy.
12:12
Jûpe
So I enjoyed my time with him.
12:14
Jûpe
I also took some time and met Peyton Owens, who was on the committee.
12:18
Jûpe
And he's, you know, he's a new member of the athletic director's staff.
12:24
Jûpe
Boy, he's a he's a positive guy.
12:26
Jûpe
Just like you said, that was a joy speaking with Peyton.
12:30
Vegoe
Yeah, I think he's going to be good for the program.
12:32
Vegoe
You know, one of the things that we're kind of coming out on Mary G the last couple of weeks has been just the concern over the athlete experience.
12:41
Vegoe
You know, this was a team that at the end of the way had a lot of issues that they were dealing with a lot of negativity.
12:49
Vegoe
You know, it wasn't a great environment.
12:51
Vegoe
You know, they kind of put a brave face on it and competed to get through.
12:55
Vegoe
But you could just tell that when things went down a little bit this season, it was hard for them to rally back.
13:01
Vegoe
You know, they had some moments where they got off to good starts and they were able to persevere.
13:05
Vegoe
But this team just kind of struggled.
13:07
Vegoe
And I think Peyton is one of those guys.
13:08
Vegoe
He's looking to remove roadblocks for people.
13:11
Vegoe
He's looking to improve that communication.
13:13
Vegoe
And I think he's going to be a good attribute to the program.
13:18
Jûpe
Now is the waiting time.
13:22
Jûpe
It's going to be an interesting two weeks because...
13:24
Vegoe
Waiting.
13:26
Vegoe
Waiting time.
13:26
Jûpe
Yeah.
13:27
Vegoe
You know that there's going to be stuff going on behind the scenes.
13:30
Jûpe
Correct.
13:31
Jûpe
There is.
13:31
Vegoe
It's the way this is working.
13:33
Vegoe
But for us, following it, we're not going to know much for another two weeks.
13:38
Jûpe
All I know is that we're going to be busy probably on Monday when the portal opens in just over two weeks or actually a little more than that.
13:49
Jûpe
But we've been revamping our portal this year, Veegs.
13:54
Jûpe
We're trying to help out our guy from up north who gets all that data for us.
14:00
Jûpe
It loads instantly now.
14:01
Jûpe
In fact, now I've talked with Tim Bruhle.
14:04
Jûpe
We're sharing our data with Tim Bruhle now, just like he shares data with us.
14:09
Jûpe
So it's a little give and take there.
14:12
Jûpe
The portal is a big deal.
14:13
Jûpe
And you know what?
14:14
Jûpe
GPL is a big deal with the portal, especially the women's portal.
14:18
Jûpe
Boom, first day, 60s plus ladies jumped into the portal and they're getting it from us.
14:25
Jûpe
Veegs, we're proud of that.
14:28
Vegoe
Yeah, that's good.
14:28
Vegoe
We're one of the few people that put out a women's transfer portal.
14:31
Vegoe
And I think Brad Frost left the program in good shape with players.
14:36
Vegoe
But Boomer is going to be in there looking to revamp the bottom of his roster.
14:40
Vegoe
You know, in his introductory press conference, he was talking about adding grit to his team.
14:45
Vegoe
I thought that was an interesting commonality between the two hires.
14:49
Vegoe
Both convinced he coiled it.
14:50
Vegoe
You know, they needed programs that, you know, put a little more bite into their roster and a little bit more intention there.
14:57
Vegoe
And so I think it's interesting.
14:58
Vegoe
Both teams are going to be active in the portal, you'd think.
15:01
Jûpe
Yeah.
15:01
Jûpe
And like you said, we didn't really mention, but Greg Boom May, he got that boom name when he was a kid, according to the story he told us on Monday.
15:11
Jûpe
Replacing Brad Frost, who had been there.
15:13
Jûpe
I mean, this is only the third coach the women's teams ever had since they started in the late 90s or mid to late 90s.
15:20
Vegoe
Yeah.
15:20
Vegoe
And it's no easy task for no boomer either.
15:23
Vegoe
You know, it's pretty obvious that all the questions were revolving around.
15:26
Vegoe
How do you get better than Ohio State and Wisconsin?
15:30
Vegoe
So pretty, pretty simple.
15:32
Vegoe
The top two programs in the country you got to beat.
15:34
Vegoe
So that's the task put out to him.
15:36
Vegoe
And, you know, he's got a lot of talent on his roster, but he's trying to figure out how to make that talent play a little grittier and have a dedicated style.
15:45
Vegoe
He talked about how Wisconsin just outskills you and Ohio State's going to suffocate you.
15:50
Vegoe
You know, they got to blend that and form their own identity.
15:53
Vegoe
And he kind of talked about how this year's team had a hard time finding an identity.
15:58
Vegoe
And so I think that's an important part of a new coach.
16:00
Vegoe
And we know when Bob Motzko came and took the job about eight years ago, he said, you know, he wanted his players to get 45 seconds of hell to the other team.
16:08
Vegoe
And I don't know if we saw that throughout the end of that tenure.
16:13
Vegoe
But you know, that's the intention.
16:15
Vegoe
And you know, as much as people can say, you know, this coach can do this or this coach can do that.
16:21
Vegoe
It's like we got to see it on the ice.
16:23
Vegoe
You know, these hires, you know, coach their teams and build their rosters.
16:28
Jûpe
When Brett was talking yesterday, that was the first thing I thought was the 45 seconds of hell, like you just mentioned.
16:35
Jûpe
I think it's funny, we're kind of thinking the same thing.
16:40
Jûpe
I'm kind of with you.
16:41
Jûpe
I'm not sure we ever saw that.
16:43
Vegoe
We saw it at times.
16:45
Jûpe
And that's just no consistency, yeah.
16:48
Vegoe
I think especially, you know, the team that went to Tampa, you know, that was a very deep team that had shifts that were connected and guys at the bottom line up who were okay providing that role for their team.
16:58
Vegoe
And I think as we've gone, you know, into the years that haven't gone as well, we don't have players that play like that.
17:04
Vegoe
We have every player trying to test the waters and figure out, you know, how hot the stove is and try to get away with their skill.
17:12
Vegoe
And sometimes you just got to swallow that pride and deliver that.
17:15
Vegoe
And it's a big part of a coach is how do you communicate that to your players and get that out of your players?
17:21
Jûpe
So there's just a lot of talk and we can't verify anything really.
17:26
Jûpe
It's just a lot of people say, hey, with this or that.
17:28
Jûpe
But the rumor is, you know, like Zeamer might not be happy.
17:31
Jûpe
Mooney might not be happy.
17:32
Jûpe
Other guys might not be happy.
17:34
Jûpe
And we don't know if they're happy now.
17:36
Jûpe
And they and you know, a new coach is making everything change.
17:39
Jûpe
But you know, we've heard those rumors.
17:42
Jûpe
You know, some other schools are might be throwing some money at these guys.
17:48
Jûpe
And somebody asked, I think it might have been Mike Mack saying, hey, you know, are you willing to spend $750,000?
17:55
Jûpe
He's using McKenna as an example to be able to do that.
17:59
Jûpe
And Coyle was kind of like, yeah, they'll kind of bring it to me.
18:03
Jûpe
I mean, I think this is something they need to seriously look at because they could get left behind as a premier program if they don't put their money where their mouth is.
18:15
Vegoe
Yeah, it's definitely a challenge for Brett Larson to figure out how to best use the resources he can gather and how much time he wants to spend gathering those resources to spend on NIL.
18:26
Vegoe
We've talked to other people.
18:28
Vegoe
It can be a little bit tricky to get that money to come in to dig it out on athletes or get it in the Golden Helmet group and then get it into the players hands.
18:36
Vegoe
It's complicated.
18:37
Vegoe
There's this NIL go thing that has to check all the money and make sure it's for something that's legit.
18:44
Vegoe
It can't just be handy over money.
18:47
Vegoe
So it's a challenge that hockey is going to have to face.
18:50
Vegoe
And I think the model at Minnesota isn't going to be spend that big amount on one player because Minnesota is going to have deep rosters.
19:00
Vegoe
There's going to be lots of talent.
19:01
Vegoe
And I've often said, I think the better money spent is getting Mooney and Zemer to come back.
19:07
Vegoe
Once they've shown that they can play at the college level, if you come back for that third year, if you come back for that fourth year, there's going to be some name image likeness opportunities for you.
19:18
Vegoe
One, you're a more marketable player because everybody has seen you in that rune and gold jersey and they know what you can do on the ice.
19:25
Vegoe
And they've seen the highlights.
19:26
Vegoe
You know, you look at LJ.
19:27
Vegoe
Mooney in the Xcel Energy ad that's out there.
19:30
Vegoe
People know who he is and they connect with that.
19:34
Vegoe
So I think that's something that Minnesota is going to have to find their niche to manage.
19:37
Vegoe
You hear David Karl talk about NIL.
19:40
Vegoe
He's like, I don't think we're going to be in that space where we're paying one player big bucks.
19:44
Vegoe
We're going to be a little more distributed with it because we just think that's the way it should go at hockey.
19:51
Jûpe
So and that's the interesting thing.
19:52
Jûpe
And that's kind of like that was sort of Bob's way of to like we're not going to give a freshman or somebody just coming in a bunch of money.
19:59
Jûpe
It's not what they wanted to do.
20:00
Jûpe
But but like you said, LJ.
20:02
Jûpe
Mooney, he's he's been out there now.
20:04
Jûpe
He's had a season.
20:05
Jûpe
People know who he is.
20:06
Jûpe
Xcel Energy commercial.
20:09
Jûpe
But right now, I could tell the fans are nervous.
20:12
Jûpe
You see a Zemur or Mooney leave.
20:14
Jûpe
Does you know Humphries go with them because they're kind of his their buddies from back in the you know, the USA team.
20:22
Jûpe
So there's a lot of nervous people out there, Veegs.
20:26
Vegoe
Well, I think that's why you hire Coach Fats is so Brett Larson can talk to these guys and figure it out early.
20:31
Vegoe
You know, when Bob was hired, Casey Middlestad was already out the door.
20:34
Vegoe
You know, it didn't even really have a chance to attain him.
20:36
Jûpe
You know, so I think that's one season too.
20:39
Vegoe
So I think that's why you move faster and you give Brett a chance to form a relationship with those guys.
20:44
Vegoe
Maybe explore what the NL opportunities are to keep them happy.
20:49
Vegoe
Because you know, Michigan State and Penn State are chasing these guys.
20:53
Vegoe
You know, they've got the money in their bankroll that they would like to spend.
20:57
Vegoe
And you know, sometimes it's a two way thing you can add to your roster and you can take away from someone else's if you go in conference like that.
21:06
Jûpe
Speaking of the roster, we kind of talked about a little bit.
21:09
Jûpe
You know, they've got a lot of players coming in.
21:12
Jûpe
We don't know if that's all going to stay static.
21:15
Jûpe
We don't know if things will change because the coaches, kids are analyzing it, parents are analyzing it, coaches are analyzing it.
21:22
Jûpe
But if things were to stay pat, it appears that they're going to have to either cut one, two, three or four players at least without even making any of those other kind of changes of or not.
21:39
Vegoe
I think there's going to be hard conversations as they try to rework this roster.
21:44
Vegoe
You know, we saw this year that they weren't deep enough and they had players that weren't, you know, holding up their end of the bargain here.
21:51
Vegoe
And I'm sure Brett's got some guys from St.
21:54
Vegoe
Cloud who would be interested in trading the red and black for the red and gold.
21:59
Vegoe
And he'll have to figure out where that fits, you know.
22:01
Vegoe
Minnesota definitely could use help at center.
22:04
Vegoe
There's some center options at St.
22:06
Vegoe
Cloud that would fit.
22:08
Vegoe
They could also use some defensemen.
22:10
Vegoe
I think there's one or two from St.
22:12
Vegoe
Cloud that might fit in Minnesota as well.
22:15
Vegoe
And then you just have to really start finding out what other players can you add?
22:19
Vegoe
Because I think if you look two years down the road, Minnesota's got a lot of really strong recruits coming in.
22:26
Vegoe
But, you know, you got to bridge that gap and you got to have the right fit of upperclassmen and underclassmen to make your roster work.
22:34
Vegoe
So Brett's got his work cut out for him here to figure this out in the next two weeks.
22:39
Jûpe
To say the least, he does.
22:43
Vegoe
Well, the other thing I think is like what recruits might flip that we didn't think before.
22:49
Vegoe
Are we thinking Mason West, who plays for Cullen's Fargo team, who would be interested in changing his commitment from Michigan State to Minnesota?
22:57
Vegoe
He was a player that the current staff didn't really want to go after.
23:02
Vegoe
Those late, blooming big guys sometimes are challenging.
23:04
Vegoe
You can't have too many of those, it seems like, on your roster.
23:08
Jûpe
But was there a Zeemer family member or brother that was at St.
23:13
Jûpe
Cloud or something like that?
23:15
Jûpe
There was some kind of connection with Larson and Zeemer's family.
23:21
Jûpe
And I wish I could remember what I was told.
23:24
Vegoe
Did not hear that narrative, but I had, man, I think the two biggest players are Mooney and Zeemer.
23:31
Vegoe
Yes, sure that they're coming back in.
23:33
Vegoe
You know, if you want to do other things, they want to do other things.
23:36
Vegoe
And it's never been easier to leave a team in college hockey than it is today.
23:40
Vegoe
So it's they have they have a lot of power.
23:45
Jûpe
Very true.
23:46
Jûpe
Oh, jeez.
23:48
Jûpe
Oh, it's just going to be a crazy couple of weeks, isn't it?
23:52
Vegoe
But I think things to look for are centers and defensemen, you know, who are some of these players in the CCHA, maybe players on lower NCHC teams that maybe could flip.
24:04
Jûpe
All right.
24:04
Jûpe
Well, Brett Larson is aboard.
24:07
Jûpe
We'll see what happens in the next week when it comes to the rest of the staff.
24:10
Jûpe
Like you said, the room was referred maybe a little bit of a we've heard Corey Leland.
24:15
Jûpe
We've heard Paul Martin maybe taking over the defensive role.
24:19
Jûpe
And we've heard Matt Cullen maybe take it over Paul's role, Paul Martin's role, and maybe getting more into the recruiting.
24:26
Jûpe
And we've heard a lot of different things.
24:29
Jûpe
It's going to be a wait and see VIGS and that's just what we're going to have to do.
24:33
Jûpe
Just be patient.
24:34
Vegoe
The one the one thing about Matt Cullen moving on Paul Martin's former role is if you do that, you can't recruit off campus.
24:42
Vegoe
So I think if you do have a GM, you are going to want them to be one of the four paid staff.
24:48
Jûpe
Okay, okay.
24:50
Vegoe
Because then they're able to go on the road and not just watch but they're able to actually recruit on the road.
24:54
Vegoe
And that's something that Chizek has been doing for North Dakota.
24:58
Vegoe
I talked to Brad Schlossman.
24:59
Vegoe
I was like, how does that work when you have that GM who's out there?
25:01
Vegoe
And he's like, yeah, I mean, they've got the three coaches who run practice.
25:05
Vegoe
And even when Chizek's around, he's like, you guys don't need me on the ice.
25:08
Vegoe
I'll just chill on the bench and talk to the guys and do that.
25:11
Vegoe
And so you can get your puck movers out there to help a practice run, but there are limits.
25:18
Jûpe
So you're saying that he would need to take over that exact role or not exact role, but a name like that or something like that.
25:25
Jûpe
So you wouldn't want to replace Paul's position if he were to move up to like the defensive coach with another person.
25:32
Jûpe
You need to really keep it to those four paid coaches, correct?
25:36
Vegoe
Just just that if you have a GM person, they've got to be one of those four.
25:41
Jûpe
Understood, because, yeah, because then and most likely be a hockey guy anyway, it's going to be somebody you probably want out there.
25:47
Jûpe
You're helping out with practice like we've seen Ball-Martin every time we go to practice.
25:53
Vegoe
But he can't coach during practice.
25:56
Jûpe
No, he just helps with Pucks.
25:59
Vegoe
He just helps with Pucks.
26:00
Vegoe
He can coach a little bit one on one after practice.
26:02
Vegoe
It's a weird thing in CAA.
26:04
Jûpe
It is weird.
26:05
Vegoe
All these drafted players you think, See, I didn't know that.
26:07
Jûpe
I'm sitting there watching going, what's he doing?
26:10
Vegoe
Yeah, like Jacob Leroy, like he's out there to help move Pucks and get drills going and stuff, but he's not out there running them or coaching.
26:18
Jûpe
Okay, that's probably why I can't see practice like you do, because I didn't even know that.
26:22
Vegoe
So like you've got Miller, you've got Gordon, you've got Potter, you've got Motsgo, those are the four guys who could coach during practice.
26:29
Jûpe
Okay.
26:30
Vegoe
Anybody else out there would not be able to.
26:34
Jûpe
So many weird rules.
26:35
Jûpe
And then you look at something like football and they got like 50 coaches.
26:40
Vegoe
It's weird.
26:42
Jûpe
It is weird.
26:44
Jûpe
All right.
26:44
Jûpe
Well, we need to actually get to the tournament.
26:46
Jûpe
What the show was going to be about before all this coaching stuff happened.
26:50
Jûpe
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26:55
Jûpe
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26:58
Vegoe
Yeah.
26:58
Vegoe
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26:59
Vegoe
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27:03
Vegoe
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27:06
Vegoe
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27:07
Vegoe
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27:19
Vegoe
It's one of those things that reduces inflammation, reduces stress, and it's just an all around nice product.
27:25
Vegoe
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27:26
Vegoe
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27:27
Vegoe
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27:29
Vegoe
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27:30
Vegoe
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27:30
Vegoe
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27:34
Jûpe
All right.
27:37
Jûpe
This is the first regional we're going to talk about, but let's first go and take out the whole thing here, Veegs.
27:44
Jûpe
The tournament field.
27:45
Jûpe
What are your initial thoughts here?
27:47
Jûpe
We got Michigan won.
27:49
Jûpe
North Dakota is the two overall seed.
27:52
Jûpe
Michigan State is the three and of course back up at the top.
27:55
Jûpe
Western Michigan is the four.
27:57
Jûpe
Really no surprises there.
27:59
Jûpe
Yep.
27:59
Vegoe
No surprises.
28:00
Vegoe
I do think that Loveland is one of those really difficult regionals when you start to compare the matchups to the other ones.
28:08
Vegoe
I think we get that rematch of Western Michigan, Minnesota State.
28:11
Vegoe
That's going to be one to watch.
28:14
Vegoe
Denver getting their home ice advantage in Loveland against an Eastern team.
28:19
Vegoe
Cornell will be very interesting as well.
28:21
Vegoe
David Carl seems to have his team playing well at the right time of year.
28:25
Vegoe
Seems like they found a goalie.
28:27
Vegoe
They probably have the best defenseman in college hockey.
28:30
Vegoe
That historically has been a recipe for success in the NCAA tournament.
28:35
Jûpe
And you know, kind of while we're talking about here, we got our Bracket Challenge first time ever.
28:39
Jûpe
We had over 150 people playing in it.
28:40
Jûpe
Let's get more VEGs.
28:42
Jûpe
It's a fun little thing we're doing here.
28:43
Jûpe
So finally, I figured out how to have it built in to GPL.
28:48
Vegoe
We're working on a prize package.
28:49
Vegoe
It could include some Cascade CBX Sport, maybe some Swag.
28:53
Vegoe
We're still putting it together, though.
28:55
Vegoe
So get your get your bracket in as quickly as you can.
28:57
Vegoe
We do have to protect scores in here.
29:00
Vegoe
So if you're trying to do it last minute, make sure you take time for that.
29:04
Jûpe
Yeah, you predict scores.
29:06
Jûpe
Obviously, pick the winners.
29:07
Jûpe
There's, you know, I'm just showing.
29:08
Jûpe
I'm not showing the actual bracket challenge right now.
29:10
Jûpe
This is just the main bracket, but we could look at that later.
29:14
Jûpe
But let's look at the games that start tomorrow.
29:15
Jûpe
Starting off Michigan State, hosting Connecticut at Worcester.
29:23
Vegoe
I feel like Michigan State got a really good bracket here.
29:26
Vegoe
You know, they haven't made it to a frozen for in a long time.
29:29
Vegoe
You know, they've had three Big Ten titles here in a row now and just haven't been able to get over the hump of the tournament.
29:35
Vegoe
I think this is a great region for them.
29:38
Vegoe
UConn has been a really inconsistent team in Hockey East.
29:41
Vegoe
They just barely squeaked in.
29:43
Vegoe
You know, if Ohio State would have won the Big Ten Championship tournament, they would have been out.
29:49
Vegoe
So good matchup, I think, for Sparty.
29:51
Vegoe
And the next game, probably two of the more confusing teams in the tournament.
29:57
Vegoe
Dartmouth, I just don't believe their strength of schedule.
30:01
Vegoe
You know, those Ivy League schools that don't play as many games, don't really get non-conference tests.
30:09
Jûpe
But can you trust the Badgers either?
30:12
Vegoe
Well, I think the Badgers are one of the most inconsistent teams in the tournament as well.
30:15
Vegoe
Like they've shown the peaks and the valleys.
30:18
Vegoe
So you don't know what you're going to get there.
30:20
Vegoe
But I definitely have Michigan State getting out of this region.
30:23
Jûpe
Okay.
30:24
Vegoe
Nice little gift there for Adam Nightingale and his team.
30:27
Vegoe
They've got some strong players.
30:29
Vegoe
Porter Malone, I think, has been the best freshman in college hockey this year.
30:33
Vegoe
Charlie Stramel has been really good for them.
30:35
Vegoe
Gives them some big heavy forwards to play with.
30:38
Vegoe
And then Trey Augustine has really done really well in his career.
30:42
Vegoe
Maybe it pays off here in the NCAA tournament.
30:45
Jûpe
So it's going to be interesting because, you know, Michigan State kind of needs to prove after the last two years of kind of being a high seed and not performing.
30:56
Jûpe
It's interesting.
30:58
Jûpe
We do not know the times yet for the finals.
31:00
Jûpe
It's kind of been weird that ESPN is like waiting till the games are played.
31:05
Jûpe
I a little shocked by this.
31:08
Jûpe
It's kind of weird.
31:09
Jûpe
I mean, things they don't even know.
31:10
Jûpe
The people who have tickets don't even know when their games are going to be.
31:13
Jûpe
That has never been the case.
31:15
Vegoe
Has not been the case before.
31:17
Vegoe
Very interesting.
31:18
Vegoe
But, you know, if you're in Worcester for a Saturday, I guess you just get impatient for this game.
31:24
Vegoe
Once again, these games should be played at Michigan State at Dartmouth.
31:32
Vegoe
Just saying.
31:34
Jûpe
I kind of like Dartmouth out of that one first one, just because of the inconsistency.
31:38
Jûpe
And they do it.
31:39
Jûpe
They've got something to prove, Veegs.
31:40
Jûpe
Like, hey, we've scheduled, we've been at least winning.
31:43
Jûpe
So this is their chance, their chance to shine this whole Worcester region.
31:49
Vegoe
This is their chance.
31:51
Vegoe
I agree.
31:52
Vegoe
I will, I'll be watching this one to see what the big green looks like.
31:56
Jûpe
Sioux Falls, of course, North Dakota is taking on Merrimack, who took care of Hockey East, winning the tournament as an eight seed.
32:08
Jûpe
Should North Dakota be sleeping on Merrimack here?
32:12
Vegoe
Probably not sleeping on Merrimack.
32:13
Vegoe
They've been one of the hottest teams in college hockey since Christmas.
32:17
Vegoe
You know, they've done really well.
32:18
Vegoe
I think they have the most wins since Christmas in college hockey.
32:21
Vegoe
So, they're going to be a dangerous team.
32:23
Vegoe
But I do think North Dakota, Dane Jackson did a great job reloading that program.
32:28
Vegoe
He took some chances on some young CHL guys.
32:31
Vegoe
They've developed over the year and have been key players for them.
32:36
Vegoe
And you know, they do get the somewhat home ice advantage in Sioux Falls.
32:40
Vegoe
I don't think it's as good an advantage as Nate Lehman is talking about in the press conferences leading up to this tournament, saying it's like a youth tournament where two teams fly in from, you know, long as away and have to play each other.
32:53
Vegoe
It's like then vote for home ice in the regionals, Nate, and then you'd be having the Bobcats at your rink, like you usually do in the NCAA tournament.
33:01
Jûpe
Providence and Quinnipiac, that might be the game of the day tomorrow.
33:06
Vegoe
Probably the closest game.
33:08
Vegoe
You know, Providence has has found their goalie the second half as well.
33:13
Vegoe
McQueen has been a good goal scorer for them.
33:15
Vegoe
Quinnipiac's done very well in the tournament the last couple of years.
33:20
Vegoe
Again, I don't think Quinnipiac's strictest schedule has been as good this year as maybe it could have been.
33:25
Vegoe
So I give a lot of weight here seeing Providence and North Dakota in the final.
33:29
Jûpe
Providence, North Dakota.
33:31
Jûpe
All right.
33:33
Vegoe
Can I like the Fighting Hawks coming out?
33:35
Jûpe
Have you made your picks yet, by the way?
33:37
Vegoe
I have.
33:37
Vegoe
I got them in this evening.
33:39
Jûpe
Okay.
33:39
Jûpe
Okay.
33:40
Jûpe
I just I was like looking down the list earlier today and I noticed you hadn't yet.
33:43
Jûpe
So make sure you get those picks in, folks.
33:46
Vegoe
Yeah.
33:46
Vegoe
And of course, the Providence Quinnipiac game is streaming only.
33:49
Jûpe
So.
33:50
Jûpe
Yeah, there it is.
33:51
Jûpe
ESPN Plus.
33:53
Jûpe
I might have to get that log in from you.
33:57
Vegoe
Hey, we're all about sharing at GPL, right?
33:59
Jûpe
I can't share with all of you, but I, I, I only used it for those a couple of games last year.
34:05
Jûpe
I'm like, that's all I want to watch it for.
34:09
Jûpe
I didn't dare try to log in.
34:10
Jûpe
I'm like, what if he gets a message?
34:11
Jûpe
I can get some message.
34:11
Jûpe
Somebody logged in.
34:12
Vegoe
I'm like, all right, I'll just log back in and kick you out.
34:19
Vegoe
All right.
34:19
Jûpe
Well, before we get to the second half of our picks here, Veegs Cub Foods.
34:25
Jûpe
Hey, this is a big weekend for college hockey.
34:28
Jûpe
The weekend of the year.
34:30
Jûpe
What a better place to get all your food needs for this weekend.
34:34
Vegoe
Yeah, you should definitely be stocking up at Cub.
34:37
Vegoe
You know, there's a local Cub by most of you.
34:39
Vegoe
I'm sure they're always stocked with great inventory.
34:42
Vegoe
They've got great specials, great deals, great produce.
34:45
Vegoe
I went down there.
34:45
Vegoe
I got some avocados, some red onion.
34:47
Vegoe
I'm going to have some guac on hand.
34:49
Vegoe
You know, I know it's green, which might be the wrong color if you're cheering against North Dakota, but guacamole is delicious and I get it at Cub.
34:56
Vegoe
If I'm looking for a couple of beverages to help get me through, a lot of your Cubs are going to have liquor stores attached.
35:01
Vegoe
You can get some of that THC stuff if you're looking for that too.
35:04
Vegoe
If you don't have time, you can order online.
35:07
Vegoe
You can get it picked up.
35:08
Vegoe
You can get it delivered.
35:10
Vegoe
I mean, Cub's great.
35:11
Vegoe
They're one of us.
35:12
Vegoe
They sponsor this podcast.
35:13
Vegoe
Our PJ Flux headset.
35:15
Vegoe
When Dickey Town Athletes is making announcements about players coming back, Cub is behind that.
35:19
Vegoe
So shop happy, shop Cub.
35:24
Jûpe
All right.
35:25
Jûpe
We head to Loveland in what could be the overall best and toughest region.
35:32
Vegoe
Region of death in Loveland.
35:34
Vegoe
I think Minnesota State is that one CCHA team that was on the bubble.
35:39
Vegoe
They had about four teams that were all right there.
35:42
Vegoe
14 to 20.
35:44
Vegoe
Very fine margins for those teams getting the tournament.
35:47
Vegoe
Minnesota State won their league tournament.
35:49
Vegoe
So they're in.
35:51
Vegoe
Of course, they play Western.
35:52
Vegoe
They played a great game against last year.
35:55
Vegoe
Great goaltending match up in that one.
35:57
Vegoe
I'm looking forward to it.
35:58
Vegoe
It should make Friday afternoon extra special.
36:01
Vegoe
And then Denver Cornell ESPN plus really.
36:05
Vegoe
Yeah, just to make David Carl happy, right?
36:09
Vegoe
He's the one who said, let's make this tournament as big a spectacle as we can.
36:13
Vegoe
So let's put it on the plus.
36:16
Jûpe
Are they punishing him?
36:18
Jûpe
Are they just mocking him now?
36:19
Vegoe
I don't think they're mocking him, but you know, an ESPNU for the other game as well.
36:24
Vegoe
It was much as we talk about how it's great to have all these games televised and stuff.
36:28
Vegoe
You know, the numbers haven't been great for the regionals because of the way that they do it.
36:33
Vegoe
So challenging there.
36:35
Jûpe
It is, it is challenging.
36:37
Jûpe
So who do you like coming out of here?
36:39
Vegoe
I like Denver coming out of this region.
36:41
Vegoe
I think DU has really turned it on the second half of the year.
36:44
Vegoe
I think it was hard for them to move up into the polls, into a one seed, just the way things started to shake out.
36:49
Vegoe
We saw the MPI at the end of the year going to those last games one through four were locked, which was interesting in this new environment that we're in with the MPI.
36:59
Vegoe
But I just do think Eric Pulltab is a great defenseman.
37:03
Vegoe
Man, what would the Gopher season have looked like if Bob Monsko had gotten him into maroon and gold instead of red and gold?
37:11
Jûpe
Yeah, because he was up at Bemidji, wasn't he?
37:14
Vegoe
He was at Bemidji.
37:15
Vegoe
He played on the World Junior Team.
37:17
Vegoe
You know, clearly there was an opportunity there.
37:20
Vegoe
But oh, well, he's at Denver.
37:22
Vegoe
He's had a great year.
37:22
Vegoe
And now Denver's they've got their CHL goalie who's really been hot, a little undersized He was the NCAA tournament most outstanding player.
37:31
Vegoe
He's playing well.
37:33
Vegoe
So and you get the Loveland advantage, of course, for Denver, which some people say doesn't mean anything, but we'll see.
37:40
Jûpe
Yeah, I guess we will see.
37:41
Jûpe
Let's go up to Albany.
37:45
Jûpe
That's where Michigan headed leagues.
37:47
Jûpe
They've earned it.
37:48
Jûpe
They won their tournament.
37:51
Jûpe
They get Bentley.
37:53
Vegoe
This Michigan team does seem built different.
37:56
Vegoe
You know, when we've seen them play the Gophers, their high end talent is very, very good.
38:01
Vegoe
When they handle the puck on the power play, it almost looks like a NHL power play at times, how easily they're able to escape pressure, make tape to tape passes, get seam passes through without any challenge from the penalty kill.
38:17
Vegoe
And they've gotten some good goaltending.
38:19
Vegoe
I think this Michigan team is probably the best one that they've brought to the tournament probably since like the Kyle Cotter days.
38:25
Vegoe
And it's just it's a deeper team too.
38:28
Vegoe
They've got some juniors and seniors at the bottom of their lineup who have shifted down because of the talent that they've been able to bring in.
38:35
Vegoe
And it's going to be a tough team to beat.
38:37
Vegoe
And Bentley will have their hands full.
38:39
Vegoe
Atlantic Hockey, always not a push over the team that gets out of that league.
38:43
Jûpe
They've done and they've upset quite a few times.
38:46
Vegoe
I don't think it's going to happen this one just because of the depth of scoring that Michigan has.
38:51
Vegoe
And we always know the officiating can be something to watch.
38:55
Vegoe
If they get a lot of power play opportunities, I think they'll have an easy chance against anybody.
38:59
Jûpe
And what a nightcap Friday night, Duluth and Penn State.
39:04
Jûpe
Wow.
39:06
Vegoe
Boy, I mean, if you could pick like two vibes that are completely different, I think Minnesota, Duluth and Penn State would be totally different vibes.
39:16
Vegoe
You know, you've got Scott Sandlin, who's just got gritty, tough, you know, top line, tight hockey games.
39:22
Vegoe
Then you got Penn State, who is just, you know, money banks this year getting in Gavin McKenna, Friday night prime time.
39:29
Vegoe
That's going to be a fun one to watch.
39:31
Vegoe
I'm interested to see how Minnesota Duluth plays against Penn State because we have seen the Nittany Lions getting these up and down hockey games where they just lose their structure and they're just kind of pond hockey-ish.
39:43
Vegoe
Minnesota Duluth usually is not that kind of team.
39:46
Vegoe
They are not going to let that happen.
39:48
Vegoe
So it would be really an intriguing matchup.
39:50
Vegoe
Obviously, Minnesota Duluth has their great top line.
39:53
Jûpe
Power play.
39:54
Vegoe
Power play.
39:56
Jûpe
Penn State's most penalized team in the league.
39:59
Vegoe
Sometimes it's because of the extracurriculars that inflates that a little bit.
40:03
Jûpe
It is the correct but.
40:04
Vegoe
But you will get some power play chances in this one, I bet.
40:08
Vegoe
I'm interested to see the physicality and if there's any extra stuff.
40:13
Vegoe
It goes into that.
40:14
Jûpe
Okay.
40:15
Vegoe
So that's one eight hockey against this money bags hockey.
40:18
Vegoe
It'll be fun.
40:20
Vegoe
All right.
40:21
Jûpe
Let's take a look at your overalls.
40:24
Jûpe
So who do you have coming out of Albany then?
40:27
Vegoe
I've got Michigan coming out of it.
40:29
Jûpe
Okay.
40:30
Vegoe
I just think that that's the deepest team that they've put out there in a while and I think they're going to advance.
40:34
Jûpe
So you've got Michigan, Denver, North Dakota and Michigan State.
40:40
Jûpe
Yep.
40:41
Vegoe
Almost chalk.
40:42
Jûpe
Almost chalk.
40:43
Jûpe
Okay.
40:44
Jûpe
Gosh, I'm kind of, I think I had something similar and actually, I believe all the way to the championship.
40:51
Jûpe
I think I have Michigan and Michigan State in the title game.
40:54
Vegoe
I think I've got Denver and Michigan State in my time.
40:58
Jûpe
It's so good at this time of year.
41:01
Vegoe
Oh, well, like they said all year, the top six teams are all really good right now.
41:07
Jûpe
And I do want to point out this VIGS earlier game this night, but you know what?
41:14
Jûpe
Like David Crowe wanted, it's on the big network.
41:20
Vegoe
Which should be good exposure for the college hockey game to be on a big network, because then you're in all the hotel bars across the country and it's easy for everyone to find.
41:29
Vegoe
I think the ratings for this tournament have been a little lackluster in the last couple of years.
41:35
Vegoe
So I think getting on the big channel for the championship game should at least help that.
41:39
Vegoe
And I'm sure they're hoping Gavin McKenna and Marton make it to the title game.
41:44
Vegoe
So I think that might make the best narrative for their staff.
41:52
Jûpe
The Big Ten really needs to win VIGS.
41:55
Jûpe
They really, you know what?
41:57
Jûpe
If they could get an all Big Ten final, kind of what I have, I don't pick very well.
42:01
Jûpe
So it's probably not going to happen, but they need a win.
42:06
Vegoe
They certainly do.
42:07
Vegoe
And I do think that this Michigan and Michigan State version that will be entering this tournament are probably the deepest teams that the Big Ten has put out in a while, probably since the Gopher Tampa team.
42:20
Vegoe
These teams won four lines and at least five or 60 that are pretty high end.
42:26
Vegoe
And they've got good goaltending.
42:28
Vegoe
And I think some of the Big Ten teams that have made it to the tournament for have been a little too young and maybe not deep enough to make these kinds of runs because it's a mistake game and so on and you need players who can play mistake free.
42:42
Vegoe
And it helps to have veterans that can do that.
42:45
Vegoe
And veterans who can support young guys to make contributions to the lineup of the number one seeds.
42:53
Jûpe
Yes, you almost went chock.
42:55
Jûpe
You want a number.
42:55
Jûpe
You had three number ones and a number two.
42:59
Jûpe
Are any of them?
43:03
Jûpe
Could any of them get upset?
43:04
Jûpe
Game one.
43:06
Jûpe
And if there was one, who is the most vulnerable?
43:12
Vegoe
Who is the most vulnerable?
43:13
Jûpe
My thought?
43:17
Jûpe
Our North Dakota fans are going to.
43:18
Jûpe
I think North Dakota is the most vulnerable because Merrimack has been playing very well.
43:25
Jûpe
They just won the hockey east as an eight seed.
43:32
Jûpe
That's got to make some fighting hawk fans a little nervous.
43:38
Vegoe
Yeah, I think that's a pretty savvy call by you on that.
43:41
Vegoe
You know, looking at Merrimack, like they had a really tough November when they lost to BU, to Providence and to Notre Dame, to Dartmouth, to the UConn.
43:50
Vegoe
And since then, they've they've been pretty good.
43:53
Vegoe
You know, they've been real strong the second half have gone on a run.
43:56
Vegoe
They've won tight games.
43:58
Vegoe
I think I think that's a good pick by you.
44:00
Jûpe
And really, Sue Slayer, I like this one, too.
44:03
Jûpe
I think Western is could is vulnerable against Minnesota State.
44:07
Jûpe
You you never know.
44:09
Jûpe
Minnesota State could goal you, Veegs.
44:11
Jûpe
They could goal you.
44:12
Vegoe
Well, I was there for that game last year.
44:14
Vegoe
Watching Western, he was amazing.
44:17
Vegoe
He was a Tracy.
44:18
Vegoe
It's really, really good.
44:20
Vegoe
It felt like Minnesota State just wasn't able to get any really sustained offensive zone time.
44:26
Vegoe
That was watching Rhett Pillick turn over the clock, you know, and it was hard to watch.
44:31
Vegoe
Oh, it was probably wasn't a good fit for that roster.
44:35
Jûpe
You know, I must say that was very fun sitting next to you.
44:38
Jûpe
We went, I went and sat next to you and we just sat and watched that game.
44:42
Jûpe
And you're at something, look at Rhett, he's got it.
44:44
Jûpe
He's got to do something and he just, he was just floating around.
44:47
Jûpe
And you were like, just, just watch him what he does.
44:50
Jûpe
And sure enough, they really could have used him and Minnesota could have used them the year before when he got benched for the third period against BU.
44:59
Vegoe
Yeah.
45:00
Vegoe
So Alex Tracy is a really good goalie.
45:02
Vegoe
Oh, and they play really tight structure and they can be really frustrating to play against.
45:06
Vegoe
So that that will be an interesting one to watch.
45:09
Jûpe
UConn is not bad either.
45:11
Vegoe
You know, I don't think UConn, so you don't.
45:13
Jûpe
They're not like the last year.
45:14
Jûpe
Yes, true.
45:15
Jûpe
But so, man, maybe Merrimack, maybe maybe Minnesota State.
45:20
Jûpe
Those are good ones.
45:21
Jûpe
There's always a bit.
45:22
Jûpe
Actually maybe last year, there wasn't too many upsets.
45:28
Jûpe
I don't think anyone did anyone's lose last year.
45:31
Jûpe
The first, I don't think it even did, but I'd have to remember what it's going to happen and it's going to be a surprise.
45:40
Jûpe
I look forward to it.
45:40
Jûpe
That's why it's the best weekend of the year.
45:42
Jûpe
VEGS, it's two solid days of hockey, just crazy.
45:48
Jûpe
And then a little lighter on Saturday and Sunday.
45:52
Jûpe
When it was three days straight, it was even more crazy.
45:57
Jûpe
But I love this weekend more than the Frozen Four when it comes to just hockey.
46:02
Vegoe
Yeah, it should be great.
46:03
Vegoe
I like having the extra day of rest to spread out the games a little bit.
46:06
Vegoe
They produces better hockey, you know, probably gives the fans who make the trip a day in between to kind of relax a little bit.
46:13
Vegoe
And it's not such a rush.
46:15
Jûpe
So drink.
46:18
Vegoe
Yeah, maybe have a night on the town, you know, maybe for the media as well, you know.
46:24
Jûpe
Yeah, it's going to be interesting in a couple of years to see how much the media goes between Fargo and Sioux Falls.
46:31
Jûpe
They would never schedule them the same day.
46:33
Jûpe
They got to do every other day.
46:36
Jûpe
So it'll be interesting to see.
46:38
Vegoe
Definitely something to watch.
46:40
Jûpe
All right, let's get to overtime, folks.
47:00
Jûpe
We are headed to overtime.
47:03
Jûpe
You know what that means.
47:04
Jûpe
It's Vego's Beverage of the Week.
47:19
Vegoe
Okay, whenever I'm feeling a little under the weather, sometimes a Guinness is just the answer.
47:25
Jûpe
Yeah.
47:26
Vegoe
This little 3B pint, you know, cures all ill, I think.
47:31
Jûpe
Right?
47:33
Jûpe
Interesting, very interesting.
47:35
Jûpe
All right, let's see how true it's 4%.
47:37
Jûpe
Let's bring up the chat here.
47:39
Jûpe
Yeah, we, you know, last week, I wasn't really prepared for it, because we had a show, but we're kind of changing the format a little bit.
47:45
Jûpe
We're going straight to overtime now, we're going to include it as part of our regular show.
47:51
Jûpe
We're not going to have a long overtime this week.
47:53
Jûpe
I got to get to bed fairly soon tonight, so we'll have to see what happens.
47:58
Jûpe
No one's sign off anymore.
48:01
Jûpe
I'm just reading some of the texts.
48:05
Jûpe
Been working a lot.
48:06
Jûpe
Obviously, I got our bracket picks this year, so hopefully we've got over 150 people participating, which is awesome to see.
48:17
Jûpe
Let me see.
48:18
Jûpe
I'm going to take a look at it.
48:19
Jûpe
I've looked at it today.
48:21
Jûpe
You said you made your picks, Veegs?
48:23
Vegoe
I'm in there.
48:23
Vegoe
I'm good.
48:24
Jûpe
I think I believe my champion, I picked Michigan State, which means they won't win, but that's what I picked.
48:33
Jûpe
And so for those of you, or I'll just let's just bring it up here.
48:37
Jûpe
Let's turn off the chat real quick.
48:40
Jûpe
We press the right button here.
48:43
Jûpe
Look at all these people playing.
48:44
Jûpe
Now, one thing to note, if you notice here, there's no warning here, but I will show here.
48:52
Jûpe
Give me a second here.
48:55
Jûpe
Picks close 1230 p.m.
48:57
Jûpe
tomorrow.
48:58
Jûpe
Once those picks are closed, then you can go to the leaderboard and view anyone else's pick.
49:07
Jûpe
There'll be a URL and you could pick and see what Align Rock wants.
49:10
Jûpe
Or 1-8-1989, you'll be able to see that.
49:14
Jûpe
We'll also have stats.
49:15
Jûpe
You'll see how many people are picking this team or picking that team and whatnot.
49:19
Jûpe
So more things will pop up on the bracket challenge once the bracket's closed.
49:24
Jûpe
If you have got your picks and get them in, because once 1230 hits tomorrow, it's automatic.
49:29
Jûpe
You will not be able to change your picks.
49:32
Jûpe
And it'll be a too sad, too bad, too sad type of situation, Veegs.
49:37
Vegoe
Yeah, and you'll miss out on your Cascade CBX.
49:40
Vegoe
Probably some drip drop, maybe some swag.
49:44
Jûpe
So, yeah, so there it's a fun.
49:47
Jûpe
Yeah, we're trying, we're going to get some pull tab stuff here and try to get them to do that.
49:54
Jûpe
Another big thing that we've been talking about Veegs is the transfer portal.
50:00
Jûpe
We've been upgrading this.
50:01
Jûpe
It's going to be very quick this year.
50:03
Jûpe
Obviously you see it loads pretty quick here.
50:07
Jûpe
We've already got 85 players in the portal for the women Veegs.
50:11
Jûpe
That just started on Monday.
50:15
Jûpe
This is last updated.
50:16
Jûpe
Man, nothing's changed since this morning.
50:20
Jûpe
So we're going to try to stay on top of it.
50:22
Jûpe
We know it's crazy, but it loads a lot quicker than it used to.
50:27
Jûpe
So this is one of the new features that you'll obviously want to keep an eye on.
50:31
Jûpe
And boy, yes, people come from the men's site, but the women's site is very important.
50:37
Jûpe
We get emails, we get what you said, so many messaged on Facebook and I hadn't even noticed it.
50:43
Vegoe
Yep, I was on top of it.
50:44
Vegoe
So we got that updated for them.
50:46
Jûpe
So that was nice of you to notice.
50:50
Jûpe
So, yeah, keep an eye on this.
50:52
Jûpe
It's going to be crazy.
50:53
Jûpe
Come, you know, a couple of weeks from now, got a couple of grad transfers in here.
50:59
Jûpe
Kind of wondering who Jacob Badal is, because how could he have three years?
51:03
Jûpe
I'm a grad transfer.
51:04
Vegoe
Must be a really smart guy.
51:06
Jûpe
He may be.
51:07
Jûpe
Jeez.
51:09
Jûpe
So we got that fun.
51:11
Jûpe
I've been doing a lot of changes with stats.
51:13
Jûpe
You know, you know, I let me bring it up here.
51:17
Jûpe
I've been noticing some stats that I've been collecting over the, you know, recently, these team stats end up being very interesting.
51:25
Jûpe
Let me see if I can squish this in here.
51:31
Jûpe
Boy, Minnesota did finish 63rd in the penalty kill leagues.
51:37
Jûpe
By far their worst.
51:39
Jûpe
What's interesting is that you can, let's go back.
51:40
Vegoe
Let's go back to the very nice percentage.
51:44
Jûpe
Yeah, you go back to another year.
51:45
Jûpe
Let's say penalty kill.
51:46
Jûpe
Well, they were number 13th back in 22, 22 and 23.
51:52
Jûpe
Even face-offs, they were 18th.
51:56
Vegoe
Yes, I'm going to drop off.
51:58
Jûpe
Or just last year.
51:59
Jûpe
If I look at just last year's data here, penalty kill was not great last year.
52:06
Jûpe
But look at this.
52:07
Jûpe
We were third in offense.
52:09
Jûpe
Then this year, we're, you know, what are we in offense?
52:13
Jûpe
43rd.
52:14
Jûpe
I mean, so it's been interesting.
52:16
Jûpe
I've loaded data all the way back to 2018, 2019.
52:23
Jûpe
It's just interesting.
52:24
Jûpe
So if you're a stats person, check it out.
52:28
Jûpe
I'm trying to make some improvements, doing a little nerdy stuff here.
52:31
Jûpe
Since I'm unemployed, I have the time to do it.
52:35
Jûpe
So people, make sure you check out all the stuff we've got going over there on GPL.
52:41
Vegoe
Yeah, it's pretty crazy to look at the Gophers from last year to this year.
52:44
Vegoe
Just the, you know, they were leading the Big Ten in scoring last year and this year.
52:49
Vegoe
I think they were last.
52:51
Vegoe
Just a huge drop off.
52:52
Vegoe
And you know, the coaches are still sending some of the same messages out there.
52:57
Vegoe
So you know, there's sometimes a saying that each coach has a shelf life.
53:02
Vegoe
And maybe that just hit its time at Minnesota.
53:06
Jûpe
We may never know.
53:08
Jûpe
Yeah, you did eventually get like a text from Bob, didn't you?
53:11
Jûpe
He was kind of thanking you and things like that, didn't you?
53:14
Jûpe
He probably was so overwhelmed.
53:16
Vegoe
Yeah, I mean, you talk to these coaches in these big transitions and they just hear from everybody.
53:21
Vegoe
So I get it very busy time for coaches.
53:24
Vegoe
And, you know, I'm sure it was a tough week for Bob.
53:28
Jûpe
You know, I think we should just start a rumor.
53:30
Jûpe
He and Larson are just changing.
53:32
Jûpe
He's going to go back up to St.
53:33
Jûpe
Cloud and he's going to take over that program.
53:36
Vegoe
Yeah, I put a post out there.
53:38
Vegoe
There's a football movie any given Sunday with Al Pacino.
53:42
Jûpe
Oh, yeah.
53:42
Vegoe
Oh, yeah.
53:43
Vegoe
Closing press conference.
53:45
Vegoe
You know, he's saying goodbye to Miami.
53:47
Vegoe
He's just like, it was so great here and all the people are good and appreciate it.
53:51
Vegoe
And then as he wraps up and he's like, but it's time for a change for me, too.
53:54
Vegoe
And I'm going to be the head coach of that Albert Kirke expansion team.
53:58
Vegoe
And I'm signing Willie Beam and taking him with me.
54:04
Vegoe
It's like if Bob did go to St.
54:05
Vegoe
Cloud, I don't think he'd be taking Birdie Zemur and LJ Mooney with him.
54:08
Jûpe
But you know, it would be so who to say cloud get they move Eric Rudd up.
54:16
Vegoe
I mean, I heard Nick Oliver was somebody that they were thinking about having as their next coach.
54:20
Vegoe
But but we'll see.
54:21
Vegoe
You know, it's a very different situation than Minnesota.
54:24
Vegoe
You know, you need somebody who's going to be more of a grinder there and figure it out because it's a it's a different place to recruit you and run than it was eight years ago.
54:32
Jûpe
I'm still I still fear for that program.
54:34
Jûpe
I still really fear five, 10 years if it exists.
54:39
Jûpe
And that's not something I want to talk about.
54:43
Vegoe
I mean, I think it will exist.
54:44
Vegoe
It'll just be different.
54:47
Jûpe
You know, oh, it's it's don't lay a bottle of stuff.
54:54
Jûpe
I don't think so.
54:55
Jûpe
No, no, thanks.
54:57
Vegoe
No, maybe I would maybe offer a tasting.
55:03
Jûpe
Maybe that's actually keep this up on the screen.
55:05
Vegoe
So maybe maybe I can offer a tasting.
55:07
Speaker 3
We'll see.
55:08
Vegoe
See how I'm feeling is the term that's going on.
55:10
Jûpe
You know, we're kind of you had just left yesterday and we're kind of talking pizza a little bit with actually with Peyton Owens a little bit.
55:18
Jûpe
And then we got to talk about you and all how your pizza making.
55:21
Jûpe
And I'm like, if we could get you with some of Jim Roosevelt's maybe sauces and stuff that he had a campus pizza, maybe we could get some combination, you know, because that was a good site sauce.
55:35
Jûpe
They had that little spicy to it.
55:38
Jûpe
I'm like, he's like, gosh, I got to figure out what it is.
55:40
Jûpe
You got to figure out what the what the recipe is.
55:43
Jûpe
But I'm like, maybe we need to have a little summer pizza party sometime.
55:46
Vegoe
Yeah.
55:46
Vegoe
A little pizza off.
55:48
Vegoe
You know, Jim's obviously got the experience on me, but, you know, but I think it's been so long now.
55:54
Jûpe
He's he's by a loss of touch.
55:57
Vegoe
Could be.
55:59
Vegoe
But that was that was the best spot.
56:00
Vegoe
I remember Brian Deutch started SID at Minnesota.
56:04
Vegoe
One of the first thing he did was like, hey, can we meet at campus pizza?
56:07
Vegoe
And introduce each other to each other and talk about how this is going to go.
56:11
Vegoe
And it's like, that's a great idea, Brian.
56:14
Vegoe
Campus pizza is spicy special.
56:16
Vegoe
Let's let's split one.
56:17
Jûpe
I think I was at that one, wasn't I?
56:19
Vegoe
Yeah.
56:20
Jûpe
Yeah, that might.
56:21
Jûpe
That might be the last time we had a spicy special.
56:25
Vegoe
It was the go-to order.
56:26
Jûpe
Yeah, we met Deutch down there, didn't we?
56:29
Jûpe
And then who did we?
56:31
Jûpe
You know, we didn't.
56:32
Jûpe
We met one of the start to be in reporters at the blue door.
56:38
Jûpe
Megan.
56:40
Vegoe
Yeah, Megan.
56:41
Jûpe
Yeah, yeah, we haven't seen her in ages.
56:44
Jûpe
Is she even still at the Strip?
56:45
Jûpe
Probably.
56:46
Jûpe
I don't know.
56:47
Vegoe
She kind of transitioned into sports, I think, after doing baseball for a while.
56:50
Vegoe
I don't know.
56:52
Jûpe
I'm just reading some of these chats here.
56:58
Vegoe
If we need to, by the way, this is because the outdoor game, not actually.
57:04
Jûpe
Yeah, so maybe they should do capacity.
57:07
Jûpe
You know, what was the percentage of capacity at the football stadium?
57:11
Jûpe
And that would change, right?
57:12
Vegoe
That would be a better way to compute that number.
57:16
Jûpe
Yeah, so that's definitely misleading, just like it was misleading the year Minnesota had their Ohio State outdoor game.
57:21
Jûpe
So you don't think we try to do that again, do we?
57:27
Vegoe
I mean, with the new head coach, maybe you'd be looking to do it.
57:33
Vegoe
It's a way to, you know, provide a special experience.
57:37
Vegoe
I do feel like the outdoor game gimmick has kind of diminished a little bit here and there.
57:43
Vegoe
But if you're going to do one, Minnesota is a good place to do it, because usually you get pretty decent weather.
57:47
Vegoe
The only problem is it could get too cold.
57:51
Jûpe
All right.
57:52
Jûpe
Well, we haven't talked about it yet.
57:54
Jûpe
But sort of one of our colleagues that, you know, I knew her a little bit.
58:00
Jûpe
Jesse Pierce and her family, basically her entire family, except her husband died in a fire.
58:06
Jûpe
Last Saturday, I woke up Sunday morning when the news started getting out.
58:10
Jûpe
I'm like, what's what's happening?
58:13
Jûpe
I didn't understand what was going on like.
58:17
Jûpe
I think Hoppe said it was like he had put something out and I didn't know what it was in reference to and I just kind of just kind of waking up.
58:25
Jûpe
This is like the worst thing we've had in the hockey community in a long time.
58:29
Jûpe
Veegs, it's hit everybody hard.
58:33
Jûpe
Last year, I posted that picture of Jesse and I at the World Junior kind of breakfast or lunch.
58:39
Jûpe
I think it was a breakfast we had at the summer showcase.
58:46
Jûpe
I was just left speechless.
58:48
Jûpe
It's just a stunning, unfortunate event.
58:52
Vegoe
Yeah, stunningly sad.
58:54
Vegoe
Jesse was such a warm person.
58:56
Vegoe
If you were in the hockey media community, you would see her anywhere.
59:01
Vegoe
High school tournament, college game, pro game, showcase, World Juniors.
59:07
Vegoe
I came to a game for the World Juniors at Grand Casino this year and I saw Jesse was sitting next to me and I was like, I knew I was going to have a good, positive conversation going the whole game.
59:17
Vegoe
And a lot of entertaining stuff would be going on.
59:19
Vegoe
And, you know, she'd be thinking about her Taco Bell order or, you know, what's that happening?
59:24
Vegoe
And just always fun.
59:27
Vegoe
She just put herself out there in the hockey community and it made a mark for herself.
59:31
Vegoe
And I think one of her trademarks was just that positive smile and attitude.
59:39
Jûpe
A couple of years ago, two or three, three or four, actually.
59:42
Jûpe
Maybe three.
59:43
Jûpe
She did a space, you know, it was still an X space, a Twitter space where you're just kind of doing audio and you have people come on with you.
59:51
Jûpe
And she was doing it on her phone.
59:52
Jûpe
It was late at night.
59:54
Jûpe
And I hopped on there.
59:55
Jûpe
We're all kind of BSing.
59:57
Jûpe
And it was kind of funny because she was talking and then she thought she was off the air.
1:00:03
Jûpe
She thought she was done.
1:00:04
Jûpe
And you could hear her messing around in the kitchen and doing things.
1:00:09
Jûpe
And I'm desperately trying to message her on Twitter because I didn't have her text number.
1:00:15
Jûpe
Like, you're still on, you're still on.
1:00:17
Jûpe
You gotta make sure, don't say anything.
1:00:19
Jûpe
She didn't do it.
1:00:19
Jûpe
She didn't say anything bad or her husband or anything like that.
1:00:22
Jûpe
But it's just kind of a fun memory I have of her.
1:00:25
Jûpe
And obviously, you know, our fun little pictures with the World Junior Trophy last summer, it was just a fun thing to do.
1:00:32
Jûpe
And like you said, boy, was she full of life.
1:00:35
Jûpe
And boy, does she love her kids.
1:00:38
Jûpe
And I, I'm kind of surprised we haven't heard anything yet.
1:00:44
Jûpe
What happened?
1:00:45
Jûpe
Because it's like, what?
1:00:47
Jûpe
It's just, it's so hard to come to terms with something when you're like, it's just, it's hard to understand.
1:00:52
Jûpe
How does that something like that happen?
1:00:57
Jûpe
And her husband, Mike, just lost his entire family.
1:01:03
Jûpe
Even his dog.
1:01:05
Jûpe
This is, I don't even know how to talk about this because it's just like, it's, it's awful.
1:01:14
Vegoe
Yeah, can't imagine it.
1:01:16
Vegoe
You know, I feel really bad for, for him and the loss.
1:01:19
Vegoe
And you just see the outpouring of, oh, it's been the hockey community supporting.
1:01:25
Jûpe
It's been so good.
1:01:26
Vegoe
That family and it's hard to understand.
1:01:30
Jûpe
They've made a ton of money on the GoFundMe, which is wonderful, just wonderful.
1:01:36
Jûpe
And the tributes from the NHL to different teams.
1:01:39
Jûpe
There was a national donated $10,000 to the GoFundMe.
1:01:48
Jûpe
Boy, she didn't know how much she was loved probably with all the people talking about her.
1:01:54
Jûpe
Other teams putting up flowers for her in Tampa and things like that.
1:02:00
Vegoe
Well, I just think she was always scrappy.
1:02:02
Vegoe
She was always out there writing from the hockey magazine or whatever, just trying to stay out there and stay engaged and keep writing and keep interviewing and keep podcasting and doing all of her stuff.
1:02:16
Vegoe
She was a scrapper.
1:02:18
Vegoe
She wasn't making a killing at it because she was still working at Lager's Trail, slinging hot dogs and beers to anyone who'd come by the course.
1:02:27
Vegoe
She'd post those videos, but come on by.
1:02:30
Vegoe
I could do some business.
1:02:32
Vegoe
She wasn't doing it to get rich.
1:02:33
Vegoe
She was doing it because she was passionate about it and it's a good time.
1:02:39
Jûpe
It was, but I have very happy memories of her with my limited interactions with her.
1:02:47
Jûpe
I think I ran into her a couple of times at the Frozen Four a couple of years ago in St.
1:02:50
Jûpe
Paul.
1:02:51
Jûpe
She was down there and going to Reeds and there she is talking with Tom Houser.
1:02:57
Jûpe
We know Tom Houser is kind of a big behind the scenes guy with college hockey and Hobie Baker in the past, so it was fun seeing her there.
1:03:10
Jûpe
Like I said, it's a stunning thing.
1:03:16
Jûpe
I just can't imagine your husband, you're on the road somewhere and you, how do you break that kind of news?
1:03:22
Jûpe
I just like you said, you shake your head and it's just like, because it's the most awful thing ever.
1:03:31
Jûpe
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring down the podcast, but I had to mention her because I knew her a little bit.
1:03:37
Jûpe
We're not friends.
1:03:39
Jûpe
I think the last time we texted was back in July of last year, but still just to have a small little connection with somebody who's so bright and so well loved is it was very cool.
1:03:53
Jûpe
So sorry to bring down Overtime.
1:03:56
Jûpe
But you know, I saw that podcast with Judd and Kirsten and I'm forgetting her guy's name.
1:04:03
Vegoe
Declan.
1:04:03
Jûpe
Yes.
1:04:05
Jûpe
Wow.
1:04:06
Jûpe
What a show.
1:04:08
Jûpe
What a show.
1:04:12
Jûpe
And to be able to do it, you know, just a few days after she's passed, it's just what an amazing job.
1:04:18
Jûpe
What an amazing show for them to just talk and just work through it because that's what she would do.
1:04:28
Jûpe
She'd want to be on her own show right now, doing the same thing if somebody else had passed.
1:04:37
Jûpe
So, so what you got going this weekend?
1:04:39
Jûpe
Is it going to be all hockey all weekend?
1:04:43
Jûpe
Or are you going to get some pizza in there?
1:04:44
Jûpe
I hope Friday.
1:04:45
Vegoe
I got to go on Friday.
1:04:46
Vegoe
I definitely pizza in there.
1:04:47
Vegoe
Yeah, we're just trying to get a little healthier in our household.
1:04:50
Vegoe
You know, we all we're all under the weather a little bit.
1:04:53
Vegoe
So we're just trying to get healthy.
1:04:55
Vegoe
Kids are on spring break.
1:04:57
Vegoe
So we're going to enjoy the next couple of days and get through it.
1:05:00
Vegoe
And then we get back to the grind.
1:05:03
Vegoe
But great hockey ahead.
1:05:05
Vegoe
I'm looking forward to see what happens.
1:05:07
Vegoe
There's always surprises in the in the hockey tournament.
1:05:10
Vegoe
You know, I just think, you know, we probably don't expect a four versus one to happen this year.
1:05:16
Vegoe
But I think that would be fun.
1:05:18
Vegoe
I feel like it's like the last 10 years.
1:05:20
Vegoe
There's always been one.
1:05:21
Vegoe
You know, I can't think of the one last year, but it seems like it happens almost every year.
1:05:25
Vegoe
Unlike basketball, where 116 is pretty much always safe.
1:05:30
Jûpe
It's only happened one time.
1:05:32
Vegoe
Yeah, so.
1:05:37
Jûpe
So we will be back in two weeks.
1:05:39
Jûpe
We'll do a Frozen 4 preview.
1:05:40
Jûpe
We'll obviously have a closing episode.
1:05:44
Jûpe
I think you wanted to head to Florida for the meetings, maybe get them, try to get them on to, I believe it's home regionals and maybe getting the rosters up to 28.
1:05:55
Jûpe
And then four extra games, four extra games.
1:05:58
Jûpe
So that's that's your three as commissioner.
1:06:01
Jûpe
That's your three goals, three point plan.
1:06:03
Vegoe
I'm OK working in the reverse.
1:06:05
Vegoe
I'm OK getting the four games added, then the roster and then, you know, targeting future date for the regional home ice situation in first round, but we'll get there.
1:06:17
Jûpe
It'll be fun.
1:06:19
Vegoe
We just need Nate Lehman complaining more about coming west for a game.
1:06:25
Vegoe
He could be, he could have a home game this week if he really wanted to.
1:06:29
Vegoe
If it meant that much to him.
1:06:33
Jûpe
Right.
1:06:34
Jûpe
It's your rosters, regionals, four games in that order.
1:06:37
Jûpe
There you go, Steve.
1:06:38
Jûpe
You're right.
1:06:39
Vegoe
OK.
1:06:40
Jûpe
Yeah, I saw the Steve's talking earlier.
1:06:41
Jûpe
It looks like they're going to meet up in Vegas.
1:06:44
Jûpe
A lot of people going to Vegas this year.
1:06:46
Jûpe
A lot of people just go just every year.
1:06:48
Vegoe
So doesn't matter where it is.
1:06:50
Vegoe
I saw somebody throw out Nashville as a site.
1:06:53
Vegoe
From all I've heard, Nashville isn't going to work.
1:06:56
Vegoe
They don't want to give up their building for the weekend.
1:06:58
Jûpe
Too much moneymaker with concerts.
1:07:02
Jûpe
And they have to.
1:07:05
Jûpe
I believe Craig Flohr said that the minimum you have to be out a full day before the first practice.
1:07:14
Jûpe
So that's, is it Tuesday or Wednesday they have the first practice?
1:07:20
Vegoe
Yeah, probably Tuesday.
1:07:22
Jûpe
So Monday.
1:07:23
Jûpe
So you got to have it from Monday until the end of the night.
1:07:26
Jûpe
Just not going to happen in Nashville.
1:07:29
Jûpe
What a party would be.
1:07:30
Vegoe
What a great town to have it home.
1:07:31
Vegoe
Yeah.
1:07:32
Vegoe
North Dakota played that one off game there.
1:07:34
Jûpe
And you can do that.
1:07:35
Jûpe
You can get a one off, but Frozen 4 would be tough.
1:07:40
Jûpe
I wouldn't mind going to Washington next year.
1:07:43
Jûpe
I have not been to Washington, DC since 1993.
1:07:47
Jûpe
And that is one of my favorite places to go.
1:07:49
Jûpe
There's just so it's so much to look at.
1:07:52
Jûpe
And I'm a nerd.
1:07:53
Jûpe
I love the museums.
1:07:54
Jûpe
I love it all.
1:07:56
Jûpe
So we'll see.
1:07:58
Jûpe
And then it's back to Chicago.
1:08:01
Jûpe
Do we know when they would make a decision on like future bids?
1:08:05
Jûpe
Do they kind of, you know, end of this year?
1:08:07
Jûpe
Would they start thinking about the next two or three years?
1:08:11
Vegoe
I feel like they like to put out a series of them, like four of them at a time, from what I can remember.
1:08:16
Vegoe
But I'm not the expert on the bidding.
1:08:18
Vegoe
Like a Todd Molesky or Brad Losman would be.
1:08:21
Vegoe
So I would I would defer to them.
1:08:24
Vegoe
I doubt they're listening to us tonight.
1:08:25
Vegoe
But no, you know.
1:08:31
Jûpe
You got to keep it short tonight, because I got to get to bed fairly early.
1:08:35
Jûpe
Got to be out of the house early tomorrow.
1:08:38
Vegoe
Well, enjoy the weekend, everyone.
1:08:39
Vegoe
Watch, watch all your favorite players on those smaller teams and see, you know, which transfer portal targets you want to go after.
1:08:48
Vegoe
Watch out for Evan Muir for Minnesota State.
1:08:51
Vegoe
He's a potential transfer target.
1:08:53
Vegoe
So watch his game.
1:08:56
Jûpe
I just just pay attention, you know, next couple of weeks, a lot's going to happen.
1:09:01
Jûpe
I think you're going to hear rumors.
1:09:02
Jûpe
But like you said, the fire really starts Monday the 13th, doesn't it?
1:09:07
Vegoe
Yeah.
1:09:08
Vegoe
And then just keep in mind, CHL guys typically don't want to announce until after their major junior season ends.
1:09:15
Vegoe
So if you're if you're targeting guys from that league, you have to be a little patient.
1:09:21
Vegoe
You know, I think they probably make overtures to teams for spots, but you won't hear it publicly until later.
1:09:31
Jûpe
All right.
1:09:33
Jûpe
We'll have a good weekend, Veegs.
1:09:34
Jûpe
It's always fun.
1:09:35
Vegoe
You as well.
1:09:37
Jûpe
I definitely stay safe on the road.
1:09:39
Jûpe
Definitely stay safe, people.
1:09:41
Jûpe
You too.
1:09:42
Jûpe
That's going to do it for this episode of the Gopher Puck Live Podcast.
1:09:46
Jûpe
You know, we're scheduled to be back in two weeks.
1:09:48
Jûpe
But if something happens in between, we'll definitely have a show.
1:09:53
Jûpe
Either way.
1:09:55
Jûpe
Thank you for tuning in for the Gopher Puck Live Podcast.
1:09:58
Jûpe
And we'll catch you next time.
1:10:13
Jûpe
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1:10:20
Jûpe
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1:10:43
Jûpe
Pizza.
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