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This is The GPL Podcast, sponsored by Vintage Minnesota Hockey, your exclusive source for throwback Minnesota jerseys.
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Visit vintagemnhockey.com Now, here's Hammy, Vigo, and your host, Jupiter.
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Thank.
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Good evening, and welcome to The GPL Podcast.
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This is number 108.
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Getting up there on these podcasts.
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Well, it was a spectacular week for the Gophers, and it was also a spectacular week for the Badgers.
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And joining us this week, a little Badger perspective.
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We got Todd Milewski from the Wisconsin State Journal.
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Todd, thanks for joining us.
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Hey, no problem.
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Thanks for having me.
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Well, some of us have known you for quite a while, either through the Wisconsin State Journal or through USCHO.
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I know you still do some things for USCHO, don't you?
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Yeah, I gave up the day-to-day editing when I joined the State Journal, back covering hockey in August.
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And so I do a lot of kind of the behind-the-scenes stuff now, planning and being kind of the in-between between our publisher and our staff.
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So, yeah, I want to be involved with them.
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So kind of like Brule, then?
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Brule's very behind-the-scenes now, too.
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Yes, he is.
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Sometimes he ghostwrites.
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Sometimes, yes.
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And well, we appreciate it.
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He knows his best role is probably behind-the-scenes, too.
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I think he would admit to that as well.
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Well, we had him on the podcast quite a few years ago and tried to unveil who's behind-the-scenes at USCHO.
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And yes, there is somebody behind there, and they're from all different backgrounds.
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Very much so.
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They're just kind of like us.
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They just have a love for college hockey, so.
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Yeah, I mean, that's the thing that really connects all of us is that if we wouldn't do what we do, we wouldn't take all the time to do it if we didn't love college hockey.
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And I know that's what you guys are doing here, too, so it's awesome being a part of this.
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Well, we thank you for joining us.
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Well, we're going to get to some badger stuff in a second here, but obviously, you know, both teams had pretty good weekends this past weekend.
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Let's start off with you, Veegs.
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Gophers, you know, we've got a 6-3 victory Friday night and a 4-3 come from behind thriller Saturday night.
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Your initial thoughts?
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Well, I think the one thing that defines this Gopher team from previous years is they can score.
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You know, they can dig themselves holes, they can get behind late, and they find a way to get scoring.
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You know, they've got seven different guys, double-digit goals.
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They've got, I think, five guys with hat tricks this season.
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It's pretty spectacular to see them put the puck in the net because I don't think we've seen that for a long time.
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And right now, if you like offense, Big Ten is your conference.
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It definitely is.
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Hammey, one of the things they were talking about on the radio this past weekend on the broadcast was this team's resiliency.
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And that's something we didn't see in past years.
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This team gets behind by a couple goals and it's over, but that's just not the case this year.
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And we saw that up to the last second on Saturday night.
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Well, I think some of it has to do with, of course, the leadership, but I also think that some of it relies on the fact that, I mean, I said this on Twitter, but this might be the best shooting gopher team that I can remember in a long time.
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And when you feel like you have that kind of offensive firepower and you have guys on multiple lines that can score goals, I mean, you probably mentally never really feel like you're out of it.
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I mean, even if you're down a couple goals and it's relatively late in the game, you know that you can score in bunches.
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And these guys, I mean, if you saw some of those goals, of course, this last weekend or throughout the year, I mean, they're really picking corners and you're seeing some real power behind those, you know, some snapshots.
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And I mean, it's very impressive.
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I mean, Kloos picking corners, Pitlick, the way he scores.
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I mean, it's just, it's impressive.
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And so I think that mentally those guys probably never feel like they're, you know, they always have that puncher's chance or never feel like they're really out of a game until it's all over.
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So I think that that plays a lot into it as well.
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Well, one of the big things, Hammy, is this week is that, you know, after a kind of a quiet period, Pitlick has really picked up his game and obviously had a, you know, the hat trick Friday night, had the big overtime goal Saturday night.
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What is he doing?
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Is he just kind of not a freshman anymore, more of a sophomore?
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Well, I mean, from what I've seen, I think that's a lot of it, just he's being more aggressive.
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I mean, I think that he's just more noticeable on a game to game basis than he was, you know, for a little stretch of time.
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And I know that we were all early in the season talking about, you know, we know he's got a great shot, then they used to stop deferring at times to, you know, maybe some of the upperclassmen, maybe that message finally got through to him to, you know, try to be more aggressive with the puck, shoot the puck more and good things will happen.
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And I think that we've kind of started to see that more and more.
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And I'm really excited about his future as a player because he's not really one of those, even though he's drafted, he's not one of those prototypical guys that you expect to get signed after a year or two.
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He's a guy that probably has a good three year career, at least in him.
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And so I think that that's something that's very exciting from a Gopher perspective, because I think he's gonna be an offensive powerhouse the way he's going.
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Well, it was definitely exciting weekend, Veegs.
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I mean, obviously we were kind of thinking, come away with a split would be ideal to sweep Penn State and now Penn State's in fourth place.
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And the way they did it, it was pretty convincing Saturday night or Friday night, I should say.
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But Saturday night Gophers didn't do a thing until the third period and then all hell broke loose.
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I mean, we get back into the game, we tie the game, a shootout goal against us with just over a minute left and then Kloos with just over three seconds left.
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That was a crazy game.
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Yeah, it definitely was a crazy game.
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To see Minnesota kind of make a couple of mistakes and a couple of turnovers like that and not probably play their best and still have a chance at the end of the game and overcome the penalty shot goal that Smirnoff was able to convert was pretty spectacular.
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You talk about them on that last faceoff play that Don Lucia drew up and it just worked out perfect for them.
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Kloos came off the wall, had two seconds to probably get a puck on that and he picked the corner.
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That was a great screen by Lotteri, Lucia talked about it in the availability today about how they drew it up.
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You know, it was just what they wanted to have happen.
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The other option they had, they had brisket for a one-timer.
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You know, if Kloos didn't have a lane to shoot, that was the next thing to look for.
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And this is just a veteran group.
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I mean, this is what happens when you've got guys who've worked on their game in college for a couple years.
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And it was funny, we were talking about who's the best shooter on the team and they were, you know, listing off, you know, Kloos has got a pretty good shot.
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Rem's got the great release.
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Sheehy's been great with his accuracy.
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Vinny and Leon have really worked on their one timers.
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Bischoff has put in a ton of work this season.
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So you're seeing these veteran guys who are all able to shoot the puck.
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Well, it was definitely a great weekend for the Gophers, but on the flip side, our hated Badgers also had a great weekend against Lowly Michigan, Todd, and we had 5-2 and 6-4 victories.
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Kind of interesting games, especially Saturday with the back and forth.
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Yeah, first off, isn't that crazy?
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Lowly Michigan?
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Last week when I was going through the Badgers' remaining schedule, it was Michigan, then obviously Minnesota, at Penn State, and back home against Ohio State, and Michigan is the one that stands out as the only team that's unranked.
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And that just blew my mind.
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It's like, where has this gotten now that we're talking about Michigan being the one team that you're thinking you have to beat, because that's the quote unquote easy one.
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But yeah, there was never really a period of time last weekend where I thought the Badgers were dominant, or really in control of things, but kind of like what you guys were saying with the Gophers, they never take themselves out of the game.
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And even though they haven't, they've gotten behind quite a few times, I think of a game really early in the season against BC, they were down three or four goals, came back that cut that to one eventually, lost by two with an empty netter.
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At Denver, they were down by three in the third and made it a one goal game and lost that one too.
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So they don't always win them, but they don't get themselves to a point where they're completely defeated.
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And I think that's one of the big differences between this year's team and the teams that had the last couple of seasons where they would get down a couple of goals and it was like, okay, turn out the lights, we're done here.
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It's the same thing with the Gophers.
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Yeah, so you can see a few similarities there between the teams.
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I think the talent level probably top to bottom, I think is better here than it was in past years.
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It probably still doesn't match up four lines deep to where it, at least from an outside perspective, it looks like the way that Minnesota has it.
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But it's definitely a better product to sell that the Badgers have here, that they're trying to sell to the fans here.
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So I know that's appreciated by a lot of people here.
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Well, it's definitely changed things in Badgerland.
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Obviously the coaching change, it's just kind of reinvigorated the whole program.
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And let me tell you, the style hockey is a lot more fun to watch compared to what it used to be.
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I mean, that's good for all college fans to not see that lame, boring, shut down defense style to actually see some up and down hockey from the Badgers is very refreshing.
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Yeah, and to be honest, they have to match the players that they have with their style, right?
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So the last couple of years, they didn't have a team that could do this.
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Now you could say, well, these are all the same players that they had last year.
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I mean, and some of that's true, but you introduce Trent Frederick as your top line center, it makes the depth, I mean, just putting him in down the middle, changes the depth so much on this team.
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Then you got him, Max Zimmer, who's been playing good minutes at forward.
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And lately the big thing has been Frederick playing with Luke Cunning.
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They've just been, have really just worked together really well on the top line.
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They've got, kind of had a revolving door on the left side of that line for a while.
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But when this team gets going and gets playing the way they want to, yeah, they're still gonna have some defensive questions, but they're gonna score, which is, yeah, getting back to that style issue is such a change here.
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And I think people are responding to that, yeah.
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Well, they're definitely responding to it.
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I mean, we've been watching the Badger program and talked about them for the last five years on this podcast, how attendance and season tickets numbers have, they went down from around 15,000 to under 10.
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And it seems like the crowd had just kind of had enough of it and now you've got the new Cogee staff in there and now it's rebounding very well.
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And one of the things that I've noticed about Tony Granato is that he connects with people on basically any level he can.
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And beyond the on ice play, he's so approachable and does his best to make himself seem like a man of the people here.
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And I don't wanna say that Mike Eaves wasn't that way because he did, he was really involved in the community here.
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He did a lot of great things, especially with the Children's Hospital here.
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He was involved in those kind of things.
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But you didn't see that an awful lot.
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And I don't know if maybe it's just an easier story to do.
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I mean, we've seen, Tony Grano was on, there was a feature between periods on NBC over the weekend as part of their Hockey Day in America, whatever they called it thing on Sunday.
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He's been kind of all over, he's in New York Times, there's stories on him.
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And it just, it brings it back to people here where I think hockey had lost some importance here, obviously as the basketball team has gotten better, the football team's obviously the biggest thing during the fall, but basketball used to be kind of on the same success level as hockey.
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And obviously that split apart the last couple years where basketball was really good and hockey was not.
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So hockey kind of got forgotten for a while and it's starting to get its place back again.
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Well, before I ask you this question, I thought I'd throw this out at the hammy and Vs.
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Guys, did you see this turnaround from Wisconsin happening this fast?
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I mean, I know you guys both talked about how this is great for this program and they'll probably turn it around, but did you see them contending for a BigTen title this quickly, Bigs?
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You know, I didn't.
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I think Frederick has really added a dimension to their lineup that's made impacts all the way through their lines.
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You know, when you have centermen that are that talented, it's such an important part of your lineup.
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If you don't have centers, it's hard to compete.
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You know, I think that's why Minnesota is so competitive this year, is because they've got good, strong play down the middle.
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You know, it makes such a big difference for your team to be able to break out quickly, you know, be able to nullify odd man attacks coming the other way.
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And I think that's been the big surprise for me.
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Hammey, you know, we've talked about the Badgers coming back, obviously being good for this conference.
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I know you agree with that, but also it's not good that Michigan has decided to tank at the same time.
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This could be a really great conference if all three teams were at the top of their game.
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And right now, Michigan is kind of the one being left out as Wisconsin comes back in.
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Well, I mean, first of all, I'm not like, I mean, we have to remember it is a six-team conference.
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And so I don't know that you can, you know, barring Michigan State, I don't know that I would say any team would surprise me contending because it's not like you have a, I mean, it's not like WCHA or the old WCHA where there was a lot more teams that were going to be nationally ranked, but there was also the have-nots.
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I mean, you're never really out of it, I don't think, in a Big Ten, unless you completely tank it early.
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So I'm not as surprised, maybe, with Wisconsin.
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As far as Michigan goes, I mean, it kind of piggybacks on what I just said, you're going to always have a couple, not every team is going to be great in a conference.
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So you're going to have your have-nots at one time or another.
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And Wisconsin was surprisingly that for a few years.
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And I think we kind of knew going into the changes in the conferences that there was going to be, I think we all thought that Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan would almost most years be the contending NCAA, contending type of teams.
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And the other ones were kind of a little bit of a wild card.
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And unfortunately, early on, well, I guess you could say, fortunately, if you're a Gopher fan, but, I mean, Wisconsin sucked.
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I mean, they were pretty much sucked for a while.
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And I guess now we're seeing a little bit of Michigan getting kind of bit by the early departure bug.
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I think there's no doubt about that's more than anything what's hurt them.
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And I'm just kind of surprised that maybe it's Berenson being a little bit stubborn.
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But I think that we saw the Gophers kind of adjust their recruiting style to a certain extent and kind of look for more of those three to four year guys and not necessarily always pursue those first second round types of NHL prospects that you know are going to bolt after maybe a couple of years and kind of lead you in that cycle of always trying to replace guys.
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And so I think that's kind of what we're seeing with Michigan.
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Hopefully, they're going to adjust.
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I don't know what Berenson's future is going to be, but I think we're all kind of thinking that that's coming to a close here pretty soon.
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And whoever takes his place, I would imagine, would probably reinvigorate their program much like Granado has with Wisconsin.
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Todd, do you think, well, I should ask, are you surprised that the turnovers happened this quickly?
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I mean, I guess I am a little bit.
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I kind of went into it thinking, you know, this was going to be a transition year.
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They're going to get guys playing the way they want them to play.
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But I just didn't know how that would translate into, you know, actually playing on the ice, what they'd be able to do that way.
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I felt like there was some talent there that could just use a reinvigoration, a fresh look, a new guy saying, hey, you know, show us what you got.
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But I didn't really expect them to be in a conversation.
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You know, they're in this large group of kind of off, kind of on the bubble teams at large in the pairwise.
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I didn't expect that right away this year.
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And that can obviously change in the next couple weeks.
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Who knows if, you know, by the second, third week of March, we've been talking about them being on the bubble.
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It could be off of it completely.
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But well, you know what?
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I think, you know, even if they don't make the tournament this year, they have definitely shown a great turnaround that the conference needs.
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Oh, I would agree.
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Yeah.
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I think, you know, it's been said, you guys said the conference needs Wisconsin to be good, needs Minnesota to be good, Michigan to be good, just from, you know, the PR hit that the league gets when one of those teams isn't.
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Because everyone points at it and says, you know, what's wrong with your league?
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You've got, you know, these teams that should have the greatest resources, they should always be good.
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I mean, we know that's not the case in college hockey these days.
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Not everyone does not have, you know, or the best teams do not have 20 straight good seasons anymore.
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There's going to be a couple of clunkers you throw in there.
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But it's just, it's fodder for the haters, if you want to put it that way, to anytime any one of those is not up to par.
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Yeah, I think seeing North Dakota struggle as much as they are right now, they're on the bubble.
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When you hear UMD talk about their season and how they haven't won a conference title in I think almost 20 years.
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Yeah, I think it was 1993.
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I mean, so it just shows you how hard it is to be successful in college hockey.
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There's so much parity.
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And right now the Badgers are the only thing in the way from Minnesota winning their sixth straight title, you know, two in the WCHA and four in the Big Ten.
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So you better hope your Badgers can do it or it's going to be another year for the Gophers.
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Well, you know, I've the regular season championship is, you know, in theory should be the hardest one to win.
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Right.
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Because it's the longest.
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You have to be good for longer than for the other ones, you know, in the postseason, it's well, now in the Big Ten, it's two days or three days, but it used to be a couple of weeks and, you know, the NCAAs, you have to win four games once you're in.
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But I think people, and this is this is something that's really annoyed me in the last couple of years and talking about how, you know, Minnesota has fallen off and, you know, maybe that's the case a couple of those years, but you don't win five straight regular season championships as a mediocre team.
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You know, it really boggled my mind.
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And I can understand when you're used to a certain level of national prominence, you know, not hitting that mark.
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I can understand that.
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But appreciate what the significance is of a regular season championship, I think is all that I, you know, now well after the fact would suggest in that conversation.
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Well, Veegs, you know, we talk about Minnesota possibly winning a six straight, you know, regular season title.
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But when's the last time they won a playoff title?
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Was it 2007?
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It's been a long time.
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Yeah, it's been a while.
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I don't know off the top of my head.
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I just think it's kind of a different conversation to win those conference titles.
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And I think Kloos might have won one early in his career.
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But it comes down to the fact that Minnesota hasn't had to win a conference title before.
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Last year was one of the first times they had to win one to get in.
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So I think that kind of plays into it as well a little bit.
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A little site called USCHO has the, before the 15 Big Ten double, it was, yes, 2007 was the last WCHA playoff title.
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Ouch.
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Because I think after that, they barely won a game.
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I mean, well, maybe, I can't quite, I think we had the Kangas year in Mankato and they might have gotten to the title game.
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But there was a time when, especially at the end of the WCHA for Minnesota that they couldn't even win a game at the final five.
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And it hasn't been that easy with the Big Ten either.
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I mean, they lost to Michigan last year, they've been booted by Ohio State, it just never seems to quite come together for them.
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Maybe it will this year.
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Who knows?
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We'll have to see.
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Okay, because I did visit that little site called USCHA Joe.
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Yeah.
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2014-15 is that last league tournament.
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Right.
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So they do have won.
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Oh, that's right.
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They did.
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They won at the Joe, didn't they?
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Why?
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In front of all those.
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In front of three people.
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That's probably why we have a hard time remembering.
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I believe all pictures of that in the video were possessed or reclaimed by the Big Ten to avoid any bad crowd shots from getting recorded.
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It has gotten bad very fast.
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And like all fans, we like to blame Barry Switzer.
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Barry Alvarez.
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Why am I thinking Barry Switzer?
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God, dude, are you high tonight or what?
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I have no idea where that came from.
24:46
What is the story with that?
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You're the Wisconsin guy.
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Tell us that Barry is the reason for all of this.
24:55
Well, I mean, let's go back a little bit farther than that.
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The Wisconsin and the WCHA did not always have the most friendly of relationships.
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I don't know what it was like at Minnesota, but just in terms of between the Wisconsin Athletic Department and the WCHA administration, Bruce McLeod on down, they didn't really operate on the same wavelength.
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The WCHA, back before when Bruce McLeod ran it, it was kind of, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn here or saying anything that's a secret, kind of run in the way that college hockey had been run for 30, 40 years, right?
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Guys that knew each other and ran things kind of informally, shall we say, and that didn't really fly with the way that Wisconsin thought that college hockey, which is for them a moneymaker or at least it was in the last year or so, should be run.
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It's a business.
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It's just like the football team here.
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It's in a college wrapper, but it's a business.
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I mean, they have to look at it that way and so from that perspective, they never really got, I don't want to say got along, but they never saw things the same way and so when there is an opportunity with Penn State coming on board, yeah, it wasn't really much of a discussion that they were going to push for a Big Ten league because it was a move toward a more, I guess, a league that would be more along the lines of how they like to run things.
27:03
Yeah, I see that.
27:05
I think that's kind of the way the Big Ten is run now and maybe that's why in some ways it doesn't fit in with a lot of the way College Hockey works because the Big Ten tries to do things in some situations the way it does for a lot of other sports, trying to make tournaments that, for example, the tournament run like the basketball tournament or be marketed that way.
27:34
Maybe that doesn't really work for College Hockey.
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That's where you get to the way things are right now.
27:43
They tried to become a final five and try to have that atmosphere and we sort of had it that first year at the X, but really died the next year at the Joe.
27:54
Last year was pretty much a joke.
27:58
This year, with both Michigan teams being terrible, it could be a complete disaster when it comes to CrowdWise.
28:08
If Friday and Saturday, if the Michigan teams are gone, that's going to be a big disaster.
28:17
It's probably the right word.
28:18
I can't come up with anything better right there.
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Even when Michigan and Michigan State were playing there two years ago, I don't remember the crowds being very big at all.
28:28
I wasn't there, but I remember seeing on TV and getting the pictures on Twitter.
28:34
They made the right decision and pulling the plug on that.
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I would agree.
28:45
Nate Wells, Mr.
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Gopher State, he's just not going to let it go.
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Now, I want to believe you have been blaming Oklahoma and Dallas all these years for ruining the Big Ten.
28:55
Yes, it was Barry Switzer.
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We're going to blame Barry Switzer for this whole thing.
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He's never going to let me live this down, are you, Nate?
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Thanks, Nate.
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30:15
Well at the beginning of the season, boys, I think quite a few of us saw Ohio State up there, Minnesota.
30:22
Sorry Todd, we didn't think the Badgers would be up there, but here we are, a couple weeks left in the season, and your Badgers are only three points behind the Gophers.
30:32
We're playing each other.
30:34
You get a split this weekend in Minnesota, things could get interesting.
30:39
Obviously, if Minnesota sweeps, it's probably over, but it's been a long time since we've had Minnesota and Wisconsin coming down to the end of the season, where this is a pretty darn important series.
30:52
Yeah, I mean, I think back to 2006 when Wisconsin had, I think, an eight point lead, or what was it, a four point eight point lead in January in the WCHA, then Brian Elliott gets hurt, Badgers was four in a row.
31:09
I think two of them being to Minnesota, one was the Phil Kessel ear game, I think we'll all remember.
31:17
And Wisconsin lost the next, or the first two to Denver, then two to Minnesota, and all of a sudden, everyone was tied.
31:23
It was a three way tie.
31:24
And I think, I don't remember, I can't remember the last couple of weeks of the season, you know, I don't think Wisconsin and Minnesota played at that point, but that might have been the last time they were, you know, this close to each other at this point in the season.
31:41
I can't remember another one off the top of my head.
31:45
But yeah, with the schedule working out the way it does, putting these teams together, obviously, you know, they're going to be playing again at some point in the second half of the season here, because of the way the schedule works out.
31:56
But yeah, it works out great to have a kind of a spotlight series.
32:02
Veegs, what are your initial thoughts on Bucky Badger coming into town this weekend?
32:07
Well, I think it's an important weekend for Minnesota to develop some in-zone offense.
32:13
Again, they can get pretty reliant on the power play and scoring off the rush.
32:18
I don't think that's going to happen against Wisconsin.
32:20
I think their center play is too good to get away with that.
32:24
So I think they're going to have their hands full.
32:27
Wisconsin needs wins to stay in this thing for the pairwise, any postseason hopes.
32:32
They're kind of on the ball, and they have a harder schedule than the Gophers do coming down the stretch.
32:37
Minnesota plays Wisconsin, and then they're going to have the Michigan schools to finish the year, whereas Wisconsin's got Penn State and Ohio State still.
32:45
So I think you're going to see a hungry Wisconsin team this weekend.
32:48
I'm sure there's a lot of guys on that roster who remember giving up nine goals to the Gophers last year.
32:52
I can confirm that.
32:57
They talked about that a lot last series when it was played here.
33:05
Ami, what do you think?
33:06
Badgers, it's about time this series has something on the line.
33:11
Well, it'll be nice to have that.
33:16
It be more of a rivalry again.
33:18
I mean, we talked about earlier in the year that you always want to beat your rivals, but when you're when they're down and you kick the hell out of them, it doesn't really have that same excitement, energy.
33:30
You don't really feel like you've necessarily accomplished anything, so to speak, because they're just that bad.
33:37
And so it'll be nice that it's going to be a more competitive situation with more on the line.
33:44
I think the Gophers will probably be pretty successful this weekend.
33:48
I think they've always generally done very well against Wisconsin.
33:52
I mean, we've seen the all time record.
33:54
But I mean, even at home, the Gophers have generally been very effective against Wisconsin.
33:59
Granted, every year is a different year.
34:00
But historically, that's just been something to update.
34:03
We've seen lots of highlights.
34:05
We've seen the Danny Erman penalty shot.
34:08
We've seen the Nate Schmidt great play at the blue line to score a goal, to go ahead, all those kinds of things.
34:16
The Gophers always just seem to play really well against Wisconsin at home.
34:21
So I think that at a minimum, I think they'll come out of this weekend with a lead in the conference still.
34:26
And like you said, down the stretch, they do have the advantage with a little bit of an easier schedule.
34:31
So I think that they'll still be in good shape this weekend and after it's all finished.
34:37
And that's kind of the key, I think.
34:38
Todd, if Minnesota does get a split, a split or better, they're obviously in good shape.
34:43
But like I said, if they just flat up split, the Badgers are still close.
34:48
They need that for their pairwise.
34:50
And Badgers are playing some good teams to finish up.
34:53
So they can still maybe be in this and maybe Minnesota is not so worried about it.
34:57
Yeah.
34:59
I think no one will say this, but I think Wisconsin would be pretty happy with a split on the road at Maripichy.
35:08
I mean, because at worst, you want to be in that second position, right?
35:14
Because that gets you out of that Thursday game at Detroit.
35:17
And if you're going in to that tournament needing to win it, two games is obviously your preferred way of doing it instead of having to play three.
35:33
Yeah.
35:33
I mean, that being said, I went back and looked at it this week.
35:39
Wisconsin Minnesota always has felt like, at Maripichy, has always felt like to me, because I've covered a lot of them.
35:46
Not so many in the last few years, but back when I was writing for the Capitol Times here in Madison, I covered a lot of them and it felt like, well, here they go again.
35:57
Minnesota is going to sweep, battle him, and Wisconsin trudges out of the back door and then has a long bus ride home.
36:05
Just the way we like it.
36:06
Well, 94 East.
36:07
94 East.
36:10
But I think since the 05-06 season when Wisconsin's had a winning record going to play at Maripichy, they actually have a winning record in those games at Maripichy, which really surprised me.
36:23
I didn't think it was even close to that.
36:25
I think it's like 6-4 and 4-0.
36:28
I have it written down here somewhere, but I don't know where it is.
36:31
How many of those wins were during the Gophers' slump?
36:36
Probably.
36:37
2007, 2008, I mean, when they were struggling themselves, I would be willing to bet that's where some of the success came out of.
36:44
I don't know, but I would be shocked.
36:49
I wouldn't be surprised with that either.
36:51
But I guess my perspective on it was that, well, maybe playing at Mariucci, because from when it opened, what, in 1993, am I remembering that right, to about 2000, I mean, I don't know if they won more than once in that first seven or eight years there.
37:14
And so it just felt like that trip was bound to end in the gopher sweep.
37:21
But I don't know if it feels quite that way anymore, historically, even when you look back at last year, a pretty bad Wisconsin team got out of there with a win.
37:33
It had a pretty beaten down Wisconsin team at that point in the season, too.
37:40
So who knows, I don't know if any of that even applies, because like you're saying, the Gophers are a better team, Wisconsin is a better team, so let's have them play and figure it out, right?
37:51
I agree.
37:52
Well, we've got quite a few Twitter questions for you guys here in a bit.
37:55
So before we get to that, let's hear your predictions for the weekend.
37:59
Let's hear it, Hammey.
38:00
What's going to happen?
38:02
I think the Gophers are going to win in a tie.
38:05
Win in a tie.
38:06
Veegs.
38:08
I think we're going to see a split this weekend.
38:10
I think Grant Bessey has been a little quiet this year.
38:14
He's had some great games against Minnesota in his career, and I think he's going to be motivated to pull Wisconsin on top on one of the games.
38:22
Okay, Todd, what's your prediction?
38:24
Thanks Veegs for leading me in.
38:25
That's my story for Friday.
38:27
It's about Grant Bessey and the fact that he's scored, I think, five goals and six games at Mariucci, but right now he hasn't scored in 12, he hasn't scored in 2017, so.
38:38
He almost did.
38:39
He almost did.
38:42
He could have scored three last Friday.
38:45
We had one that went off the crossbar, one that was waved off, and one that hit, well, he missed an empty net, and then 10 seconds later, a centering pass went to him right in front of the net with probably kind of an open net went off the defenseman's skate before it got to him and went in.
39:04
So he could have had any one of those to break his drought, but he didn't.
39:08
But I'm going to say split, too, and I feel like that might be a stretch even.
39:14
So I, for the Badgers perspective, to get a split, they would be really happy with that the way I see it, but would not be surprised if it ends up in a gopher sweep.
39:28
I'm back on the bandwagon, boys.
39:30
It's going to be a gopher sweep.
39:33
Shocking, I know.
39:37
Well we do have quite a few Twitter questions for all of you here.
39:41
Remember, if you're listening live, you can always tweet us and send us a question.
39:45
You should use the hashtag GPL Podcast.
39:47
I usually send out a tweet early in the day and collect a few.
39:52
First, let's start out with a question just for you, Todd.
39:54
Tim Hapke says, I see Granado is attending classes.
39:59
What is the story behind that?
40:01
Well the story is he left school in 1987 after his four years were up and he didn't finish his degree and like many players do, they go on to the pros and they just kind of let that go for a while.
40:16
He said he always intended on getting back to finish up whether it was over a summer or anything like that, but he went right into a pro career or actually went right to the Olympics for that year, then to a pro career.
40:29
Had one year after his playing career before he became an assistant in NHL and then head coach and then between that and family, it never happened, he said for finishing his schooling.
40:43
He was I think 15 or 16 credits short at the start of this year and one of the deal, Wisconsin I think like pretty much every school nowadays requires head coaches and I think assistant coaches too to have a degree and that was the deal that they worked out with the chancellor was if you can finish your degree within a year, we'll hire you and everything's working that direction.
41:14
So obviously there's a little bit of pressure on them to finish up to get that done by May and so that's he's on track.
41:22
He's got two classes I think this semester that he...
41:27
That's kind of weird.
41:29
Yeah, we see him studying because as we walk out of the call center and it's dark by the time practice is over, sometimes he's back up in his office at his desk, you can see him from outside.
41:40
He has tutoring sessions a couple of times a week and so that's...
41:46
With his own players.
41:50
It might work out that way.
41:52
I don't remember offhand if he has had any of his players in the same class as him because by the time you're at this point of your degree or whatever, you're probably in pretty specialized classes or anything.
42:07
I actually sat in on a class with him in the first semester for the story I was writing about and the first time this class was offered, it was called, I forget exactly what the title was, but it was about coaching and leadership in athletics and it was just like this really interesting kind of connection of here's a guy that's got 13, 14 years of pro hockey coaching experience in this undergraduate and graduate level class, kind of sharing some of that experience with everyone else.
42:45
Well, there you go, Tim.
42:46
You think you'd get a good grade in that one, don't you think?
42:48
I hope you did all right.
42:51
Yeah, I hope so too.
42:52
Okay, we got some more here.
42:54
We got Tim Kotke.
42:56
I'm going to throw this one towards you, Hammy.
42:57
He says, football and basketball recruits announce on Twitter that, you know, what offers they receive.
43:04
I'm guessing, you know, percentage, you know, I got a full ride, whatever.
43:07
Will hockey end up doing the same?
43:10
No.
43:10
I don't think so either.
43:12
I mean, first of all, they don't get, they always get full rides in basketball and football.
43:17
It's not like college hockey where you have to split them.
43:20
Secondly, I mean, I think the reality is, is that football and basketball gets so much coverage on different, you know, college websites, websites, rivals or whatever it might be.
43:31
And they have people that are just dedicated to covering recruiting, going to these different different events throughout the year, especially in basketball.
43:42
And so they're constantly reporting on what this player gets this offer, that player gets that offer.
43:46
Players are very, I think that kind of feeds into them wanting to announce, oh, blessed to receive an offer from, you know, the University of Minnesota or Wisconsin or wherever, right?
43:57
And you're not going to see that in hockey.
44:00
I mean, hockey just doesn't have that kind of attention.
44:03
I mean, these days, all you're going to see is a player announce when he actually commits versus, you know, talking about, oh, yeah, I've visited so-and-so's school and got it, was blessed to get an offer this last weekend.
44:15
You just don't see that in hockey.
44:17
And I'm not going to say it's not like even, it's just that's how it is in those sports.
44:23
It's not a cultural thing.
44:25
It's not anything.
44:26
It's just hockey just doesn't get that kind of attention.
44:29
They don't have people who are just constantly dedicated to reporting on all these different kinds of things and digging for that kind of information.
44:37
And so we'll never, I don't think we'll ever see it like that.
44:40
And it's, you really can't dig that information up, can you?
44:44
Well, I mean, a lot of times you hear that you hear on interviews.
44:48
Player wants to talk about it.
44:49
But I mean, you usually you've kind of heard it from behind the scenes.
44:53
So it's not stuff that's publicly known most of the time.
44:56
At least, I've never heard stuff publicly out there.
44:59
Right.
45:00
And I think a lot of it, you know, really comes down to, you know, some of these offers that in hockey, at least that they get are very, you know, there's some sometimes coaches put time constraints on.
45:11
I mean, frankly, that was one of the things that Mike Eaves was kind of famous for doing was kind of being a pressure type of a guy with a lot of players and, hey, I give you this offer, but I need to know my week from today or whatever.
45:24
You know, I'm sure he wasn't doing that with the very elite types of players, but for a number of players, you know, that was not uncommon.
45:31
And so sometimes you might hear, yeah, a kid gets an offer, but if it's a, you know, got some kind of a time restriction on it, you might not have it a week or two later.
45:41
So it just it's very fluid, I think, with hockey, football, basketball, like I said, they have full rides.
45:48
And, you know, those are tend to be just they're there, you know what I mean?
45:51
And players have more time to make decisions.
45:56
Let's throw this one towards Jude Veegs.
45:57
Tommy DiMartino wants to know with Kloos graduating, who gets the C next year?
46:03
And even with the praise he gets, is Kloos underappreciated?
46:08
Well first off, I think Kloos is definitely underappreciated.
46:11
I think if he's not playing on that line with Sheehy and Pitlick, it's not nearly as successful.
46:16
He does so much work at both ends of the ice and pushes those guys to be better.
46:21
He makes a huge impact on the game.
46:24
For who's going to be captain next year, it's going to be really interesting.
46:29
You hear a lot about Ryan Lindgren being one of the big leaders on the roster, and he's only going to be a sophomore next year.
46:36
Up front, there's a lot of quiet guys among the returning forwards, so it'll be interesting.
46:42
I know Liam Bristette's a very vocal guy, but it's going to be up to the players to decide who they want to give the letters to.
46:50
But I wouldn't be too surprised if Lindgren gets one of them.
46:56
Kloos is definitely underappreciated.
46:58
He is one of my favorite Gopher players from the Lucia era, at least, because he's been very effective.
47:07
He's been a leader.
47:08
He's a guy that could have left long before this.
47:12
If he had wanted to, he could have left.
47:14
He was a kid coming into college hockey that had bigger offers to go to other schools, and he took less to be a Gopher because that's what he really dreamed of.
47:24
That's what he really wanted to be.
47:26
I think that he, in his time at the U, has exemplified that by remaining loyal to the school, staying in college when he could have left, being a leader, and he's been productive.
47:37
To me, he's one of my favorite Gopher players in the recent era of Gopher hockey.
47:43
He's definitely one of my favorite players, too.
47:45
From his post-game interviews, you can just see his passion for wearing the M.
47:53
It's just a wonderful thing to see, and we haven't seen that very much with a lot of players in recent years, especially when you've got somebody like a camaraderie who gets excited as about a piece of toast does when he scores.
48:06
It's nice to see.
48:08
Well, I think, more than anything to me, he exemplifies what we saw out of college hockey 20, 25, 30 years ago, where nowadays you see all these players entering college hockey and it's like they're happy to be there, but you know that in many of them, their minds, they're thinking next level even before they even get to college.
48:32
I'm not saying that Justin Kloos doesn't think about that either, but I think for him, he reminds me of a guy that it's a process for him.
48:40
He's not in a rush.
48:41
He knows that he's got things to develop and learn, and he appreciates what he has at the college level.
48:49
And when he's graduated and ready to move on, I'm sure he'll be full bore to be as best of a pro player as he can be.
48:55
But he seems to be one of those guys that really appreciates what college hockey has to offer.
49:00
I think one of the interesting things about Kloos, I'm working on a story on him right now for Minnesota Hockey Magazine, is that after his sophomore year and before his junior year, he passed up development camp opportunities because he knew how important it was for him to be a vocal leader in the off season for that program because there was a lot of turnover with that team.
49:21
And he really took being a captain to heart.
49:25
He definitely did.
49:27
We've got one question.
49:28
I'll throw this towards Todd and Hammy from David Roberts.
49:32
Are there any known recruits that the Gophers and Badgers are battling for right now?
49:40
Well, I mean, I think how much time do you have?
49:45
Honestly, I mean, let's be honest.
49:46
Most of them?
49:48
Well, I have, especially locally here in the Twin Cities, I mean, of course, there's going to be a number of players from different age groups that they're going to be paying similar attention to.
49:58
I mean, that's that way every year, even when Wisconsin was off.
50:03
I mean, I remember seeing Butters at like the model camp, you know, I mean, he'd be watching games at Ritter in the middle of the summer.
50:12
I mean, they're always looking at a lot of the same group of kids, especially in Minnesota.
50:18
So it's kind of like, you know, there's probably a shorter list of players that they're not both interested in versus, you know, interested in.
50:28
So I guess you probably think the same thing outside.
50:32
Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, from the Wisconsin perspective, they've made a lot of trips out to BC and Western Canada lately.
50:43
And I think they want to make sure they're getting that area as well as they can too.
50:49
So you know, they're going to be in on the best out of Minnesota, I think, you know, to the extent that they can.
50:58
And, you know, obviously, they, you know, they have some ties there.
51:02
Marco Siki obviously being from Burnsville and Don Granato playing at Burnsville too.
51:09
I would say that they're going to, you know, Wisconsin's over the summer and even into the season, you know, just grabbed as many guys as they could, it seemed like, and got commitments from them.
51:21
And they'll, you know, they'll try to do that wherever they can, I think.
51:28
Hemi, who are kind of the big uncommitted players out there right now?
51:32
Is Keegan Karkey the goalie with the development program?
51:36
Matt Gleason at Creighton Durham Hall, are those some of the bigger names out there right now that we can be watching?
51:41
Well, I mean, you know, the funny thing is, is that if you look at the Gophers recruiting, I mean, they've got quite a bit lined up already.
51:52
I mean, we all know that they're recruiting them younger and younger these days.
51:56
And so it seems like it's almost like you you backfill with something with a couple late bloomers or some guys that you know, but you're really kind of still filling out classes with those real young guys and that kind of have that blue chipper hype to them.
52:11
And we've talked many times whether that's the strategy to take or not, or how often to take that strategy.
52:18
And I think personally, we think we've all agreed that we'd like to see them not quite go as young as they've been at times and maybe have a little bit more of a blend.
52:29
But hey, they're the coaches that get paid the big money to do that.
52:31
And so, you know, from a goalie perspective, somebody asked that weeks ago, you know, is it you know, when car key became available, you know, is it somebody we're interested in?
52:41
It's like, well, recruiting is all is not just about talent, but it's about timing.
52:46
I mean, the reality is, is that every year, you know, you're not going to need a goalie recruit, or you're not going to need as many recruits at a certain position.
52:54
And if it happens to be a loaded year, especially in Minnesota, it's like, people got to expect that you're not going to get every guy that maybe everybody would like to get.
53:02
And it's not necessarily because you lost a recruit, quote unquote, it's just the need isn't there and the scholarship room isn't there.
53:13
So there's a lot of reasons behind a lot of these things.
53:17
Definitely guys, definitely.
53:19
A lot of great questions this week, gang, we appreciate it.
53:23
There's a few more, but they're kind of a little more generic for now.
53:26
We're starting to run low on time.
53:29
We've had a busy show, guys.
53:32
Veegs, before we move on, what are we going to get for the audio extras this week?
53:38
Well, let's see, you'll hear the media mob try to get Rem Pitlick to talk about what he's adjusted to his game to have so much success.
53:48
He gets asked about eight different ways to explain it.
53:52
He eventually will talk about how he's not deferring as much and he's figuring out to be harder on pucks and puck battles.
54:01
You'll hear Justin Kloos talk about the team being confident.
54:06
Tyler Sheehy talks about the team having a lot of resilience.
54:10
Kloos thinks it's more confidence and he'll talk about that.
54:13
And you also get some insights into who's the fastest gopher and who's got the best shot.
54:18
There's a little back and forth with the players about that.
54:21
And then you'll get Don Lucia talking about things the team needs to clean up.
54:26
The defense has been pretty good with shots against, but just the turnovers are hurting them.
54:31
And he'll talk a little bit about some of the different players.
54:34
And remember, you'll hear that at the end of the podcast, we always append the audio that Vigo captures every Wednesday at Media Day.
54:43
So expect to hear that at the end here.
54:47
Todd, are you making the trip to Mariucci this weekend?
54:50
Yes, I'm driving up tomorrow ahead of the storm, hopefully.
54:55
Get started now, it might take you a while.
54:58
Yeah, we're hopefully be rolling in before four o'clock or four o'clock-ish.
55:03
So yeah, not looking the greatest for the weather there this weekend.
55:11
Veegs, maybe we can convince him to go out for a beer after Saturday night's game.
55:16
Yeah, post Saturday night, that's the way to do it.
55:18
I'm driving around after Saturday night's game.
55:22
It's a short drive, you can have a beer or two.
55:25
Yeah, let's get him loaded and go through.
55:27
Well, he won't get picked up in Wisconsin.
55:32
Well, Todd, we really appreciate you having me on.
55:34
We appreciate you coming on, at least I should say.
55:37
First time guest and I'm thinking we might come back to you often when the Gophers and Badgers are playing just so we can get that perspective.
55:45
Otherwise, it's just going to be all anti-Badger here, which is what we should be doing.
55:52
Well, I guess I don't know if I'm happy or I appreciate the opportunity to break that up slightly anyway.
55:59
Well, we definitely appreciate you coming on and thanks, Viggo, for getting him lined up for us.
56:05
No problem.
56:06
Viggo is already thinking about his post-podcast beer, so what's lined up today, Viggo?
56:12
Well, I've got a little Prairie Bomb beer that's on Coco Nibs, it should be delicious.
56:17
Oh, you're such a beer snob, aren't you?
56:19
I am.
56:21
Well, remember, you can always listen to or follow Viggo on Twitter, at eViggo and Hammeh Hockey.
56:29
You can follow Todd at Todd Milewski on Twitter if you can remember how to spell it because there's no way I'm going to do it right now without it in front of me.
56:37
But he's easy to follow as well.
56:40
We appreciate Todd coming on.
56:42
We've got a big series this weekend against the Badgers.
56:46
We're going to have to see how it turns out because it could be do or die for the Badgers.
56:51
It could be the end.
56:52
We're hoping so.
56:55
But we'll be back next week to recap that series and preview this series with Michigan.
57:00
Thanks for listening.
57:29
Don, we were just talking to Tyler Sheehy about this team's ability to rally this year.
57:34
Do you think that this team has a particularly good sense of that?
57:38
Well, they better.
57:39
They've been behind enough, especially to start games.
57:43
I think when you have the ability to score some goals, I think that's the big thing.
57:46
You look at our team, five different guys have had a hat-trick.
57:49
You know, what, seven now, guys with 10 goals or more.
57:53
So when you have the ability to score, you do have the ability to come back.
57:56
I mean, we've all been on teams, or part of teams where you get down by a couple of goals, it's just, it's so hard to score that you just don't have a sense or a feel that you have the ability to come back.
58:06
But if you can score, our power play's pretty good that, you know, has allowed us to, you know, win some games.
58:13
So I think that's a real key that you do have that ability to put the puck in the net.
58:19
So were you as a coach, though, that those guys have that in their back pocket, that they can score goals?
58:24
No, I mean, they didn't want to.
58:25
Yeah, no, I don't think that's it.
58:27
I mean, you look at our shots against, it's pretty good.
58:29
I mean, there's areas of our game we have to get better.
58:31
And obviously, Eric's been better the second half and the first half of the year.
58:35
And that's going to be critical as we get down to the end of the year.
58:38
And, you know, he did a good job Saturday night.
58:40
He gave up two during the course of the game.
58:42
And, you know, the penalty shot, you know, was one that was early in the game scoring me a nice play.
58:46
So you can't fault him in that.
58:48
But we all know that we can't expect to win games, you know, 5-4.
58:53
We don't come the end of the year.
58:54
I mean, you got to win three to two and two to one, and you got to be able to shut people down.
58:59
And, you know, that's what we try to get across to our guys, how important that element is.
59:03
I suppose you can't count on winning a lot of games, too, where you get the goal with seconds to go.
59:08
No, I mean, that's, yeah, I mean, that's one of those things that's going to happen, you know, once every number of years.
59:14
You know, things have to go your way.
59:15
I mean, to our kids' credit, they couldn't have done any better.
59:17
You know, even Vinny had a heck of a screen on the goaltender that, you know, it goes unnoticed by the average person.
59:24
I'll tell you a review in the video.
59:26
So they all did a nice job with that.
59:28
But I give our guys credit for the, you know, keep believing, you know, to come back with 2 and 1 half minutes to get to tie and then to give it up, which was a gut punch.
59:36
And then to be able to say, you know what, we're not finished yet, and to tie it and win it in overtime.
59:41
It was a big win for us.
59:42
You had the dry race for that last play.
59:44
Is that just how you drew it up?
59:46
Well, I mean, we had some options there.
59:48
You know, we did draw it up where Kloos coming off the wall to obviously help out.
59:53
And he's on his strong side.
59:54
If he can gather a puck, he can shoot.
59:56
We didn't talk about Vinnie getting the net for screen, Tyler helping out.
59:59
But we also had, you know, Leigh-Anne on the back side for a one-timer as a lefty, too.
1:00:04
So we did have a couple options.
1:00:05
But you don't have much time.
1:00:07
I mean, with seven seconds, the puck's got to be delivered to the net within two or three seconds.
1:00:12
How important is it for your guys to know that they have that capacity to rally as we get into these more meaningful games?
1:00:17
Well, I think it's important that you do know that if you fall behind that couple of goals halfway through the game, that it's not over.
1:00:24
That you still have the sense that you can come back.
1:00:27
But when you do fall behind like that, well, you better buckle down defensively and not give up another one.
1:00:33
Now you can't keep trading goals.
1:00:37
I mean, at some point, you chip 2-1, 2-2, or you make it 2-1, then 3-1, 3-2.
1:00:43
So you feel like you're making some headway.
1:00:46
But sometimes one goal just gives you life.
1:00:48
I mean, you hold bench some life, and that's critical, too.
1:00:53
That kind of happened with the Vinnie goal the other day in Penn State.
1:00:56
Down 2-0, and he gets a goal, and all of a sudden, they're reinvigorating the team.
1:01:00
Yeah, there's no question that when you get that, I mean, the Saturday game, where Bish scored the goal off that rush.
1:01:06
But I mean, it just seemed like we were going the path.
1:01:09
Not much was going on.
1:01:10
But you needed that one goal to kind of ignite you.
1:01:13
And then there's a little bit more jump in the guy's step.
1:01:15
So, you know, we've, you know, it's been a bit of, you go through a season, it's not only a physical roller coaster, it's an emotional roller coaster too.
1:01:24
And obviously the guys were pretty excited on Saturday night.
1:01:26
But, you know, now you got to put that behind you.
1:01:29
And that's in the rear view mirror.
1:01:30
And it's all about preparation for this week and doing everything we can to be in the best position mentally and physically when the puck drops Friday night.
1:01:40
Pitlick's been very good lately and particularly good over the weekend.
1:01:42
Has there been a point recently where you saw a light bulb go on for him?
1:01:46
No, I don't think there's anything recent.
1:01:48
I mean, he had some good opportunities and he's got such a good shot.
1:01:51
The one thing we'd like him to be a little bit more selfish, more of a time, because he's still looking to pass more than shoot, but he's got a tremendous shot.
1:02:00
And I think for him, you know, he had a transition to college, which a lot of guys do.
1:02:05
And I think he's getting more and more confident.
1:02:08
And that line's been a real good line for us since we put him together before Christmastime.
1:02:13
And that's, with all the monkeying around we've done, that's the one thing we haven't, we've tried to keep that unit together.
1:02:21
What does Justin do as a center that makes those other two so successful at win?
1:02:25
His energy.
1:02:26
He plays so hard that he forces other people to play hard around him.
1:02:30
He plays with such pace that, you know, if you're not getting up and down the rink, you're going to be 20, 30 feet behind him.
1:02:36
And I think that comfort level that he's really good defensively that he's going to come back and do his job in her own zone too.
1:02:42
And, you know, physically he's strong enough that he can get into people and shut them down.
1:02:47
That entire line, what example do they set for the rest of the team?
1:02:49
I mean, they scored two game tying goals on Saturday and eventually the game went in overtime.
1:02:53
Well, I think it goes with any team.
1:02:54
I mean, you're top end guys, your best players have to produce in big moments.
1:02:59
And they've been able to do that just like, you know, it seems like a different guy.
1:03:03
It could be Vinny or it could be Leon or, you know, Junior Gates has scored some big goals.
1:03:07
So the way our team is set up right now, I mean, the goal scorers have to score.
1:03:10
You know, the guys that don't score a lot need to, you know, kill penalties.
1:03:14
They need to chip in a goal here or there, block a shot, you know, have some offensive zone time and do their job too.
1:03:22
So I think that's the makeup of a good team.
1:03:24
And we're not looking at every guy to have to score.
1:03:26
But, I mean, the guys that you expect to score, they need to come through if they're going to win games.
1:03:31
How have practices kind of evolved throughout the second half?
1:03:34
The second half buy came ridiculous early in the season.
1:03:37
Yeah, I mean, it's the first time, I think, in years that we haven't had a buy during the second half of the year other than that very first weekend.
1:03:45
So we have tried to really shorten our practice.
1:03:48
We did give our guys a couple Tuesdays off.
1:03:51
And, you know, next week, there's probably a good candidate.
1:03:54
Monday, we just let them play shinny hockey as something different, just to try to get them, you know, to get their legs back because, you know, we didn't get home till, you know, by the time they were in bed, it was probably 3 o'clock in the morning or 4 or whatever it is, by the time you can fall asleep.
1:04:08
And so we're trying to monitor that, you know, and they've got schoolwork to deal with and study hours and they have a lot on their plate.
1:04:15
So we're doing everything we can to monitor them, you know, physically and that's part of Cal's job and he does a good job with that.
1:04:20
And I think the nice thing, the second half, I haven't seen dead legs yet.
1:04:25
And we've all been around sports where, you know, as much as the guys want to do it, they just, they don't have any legs.
1:04:32
And we haven't experienced that this year.
1:04:34
I'd be a little surprised to kind of see that, especially after this past weekend where there was 11 forwards for 50-plus minutes both nights.
1:04:40
Well, sometimes that can be good because you can get into the game, you get into the rhythm, you're not sitting there for long periods of time.
1:04:45
And then you can get into games where if there's a lot of whistles or, you know, the stoppages where if you're rolling four lines, you're not out there for a while.
1:04:52
But I think this, especially when we got in probably the last 25 minutes of the game, you know, our top two lines played every third shift.
1:04:58
There's no question they got a lot of minutes.
1:05:00
But they're in good shape.
1:05:02
I mean, they train 50 weeks a year for a reason.
1:05:05
Mike Smetul, you said was a day-to-day adversaries game.
1:05:08
Still on the pace with that?
1:05:09
Yeah, still day-to-day.
1:05:10
I mean, he's a question mark right now.
1:05:12
We don't know if he'll play or not play.
1:05:14
He's still somewhat part of practice today, and we'll see where he's at tomorrow.
1:05:20
Everybody else good to go?
1:05:21
Yeah, everybody else is good to go.
1:05:22
And what about Wisconsin a little bit?
1:05:25
They seem to be kind of resurging.
1:05:26
Yeah, I mean, you could see it at the end of last year.
1:05:28
You know, Kuhnen's a really good player, and they added another first round pick in Frederick.
1:05:33
The young guys that play, including the freshman goaltender, they're a year older.
1:05:37
So both their goaltenders are playing well.
1:05:39
They're splitting them on Friday, Saturday night.
1:05:42
And that's a big thing if you look at their numbers.
1:05:44
A lot like Eric, their second half numbers are much better than their first half numbers.
1:05:48
Very good on the power play and penalty kill.
1:05:52
And they can score goals.
1:05:53
I think you look at their team, they've got a real good group of forwards.
1:05:57
And I think they've won a lot of games by being able to get to four and five a night.
1:06:01
Given the rivalry and what's at stake, how emotional would you anticipate the series to be?
1:06:04
Well, I think that we'll have good crowds.
1:06:06
It's interesting to know what happens on Friday.
1:06:10
But I think it's one of those series that the fans look forward to.
1:06:15
And so it sounds like pretty much sold out for the games on Friday, Saturday.
1:06:19
So the atmosphere is going to be there.
1:06:21
And now you want to have that emotional component involved too when the puck drops.
1:06:25
So the guys will be excited to play.
1:06:27
We've put ourselves in a good position.
1:06:29
So long ways to go.
1:06:31
One more weekend in February.
1:06:33
And you flip the page.
1:06:34
It's the most important month of the season.
1:06:36
So we just want to, just like we went to Penn State, we want to make sure we're ahead of Penn State at the end of the weekend.
1:06:42
We want to make sure we're ahead of Wisconsin at the end of this weekend too.
1:06:48
All right?
1:06:52
We've seen this team rally now from deficits, including some very late ones quite a bit recently.
1:06:58
How has a team developed the ability to do that?
1:07:01
Just developing confidence.
1:07:03
You never feel like you're out of a game through success at other points of the season, and I think that's what we've developed.
1:07:09
I mean, obviously you don't want to put yourself in a situation where you've got to come back from a couple goals in the third period or even the first period.
1:07:17
So we're going to have to really focus on coming out a little better and not getting behind, but we do have a little bit of confidence and swag to be able to come back from those slow starts or a couple of goals deficit.
1:07:27
Can you describe for us what it was like at the Penn State game after they scored the penalty shot, and what was the chatter on the bench about what would happen next?
1:07:36
Honestly, I don't think there was a ton of frustration or disappointment with the call of the penalty shot or what happened on that play.
1:07:48
It was more of, you know, we just got to find a way to get that next one.
1:07:52
I don't know, I can't remember.
1:07:53
I think there was a minute 20 left or something, so we knew we had a little bit of time to get some pucks on that and see what happens.
1:07:59
And then obviously, seven seconds left for the faceoff.
1:08:02
You're really not sure what's going to happen, but we ran a good play and things worked out.
1:08:07
And next thing you know, we score with three seconds left and are feeling great about ourselves.
1:08:12
Just another example of, you know, building a little bit of confidence, things go right.
1:08:18
You were just talking about swagger, about individual swagger.
1:08:20
Do you score a goal like that?
1:08:22
Yeah, it feels good.
1:08:24
It was all-around good play by everyone.
1:08:25
Tyler had a good bump off the line.
1:08:27
Cammie did a great job on the draw, and Vinny set a good screen.
1:08:30
So you don't score that goal without everyone else doing their job.
1:08:35
Cammie had only taken two draws before that.
1:08:37
Do you have confidence of him on the goal?
1:08:39
Cammie?
1:08:39
Yeah, yeah.
1:08:41
Great faceoff guy.
1:08:43
I know a goal last year against Ohio State in overtime, Cammie took the draw.
1:08:48
Sheehy came off the wall and hit a screen, and then I was able to get the rebound in.
1:08:52
So he seems to be clutching those situations, but I've been around him for four or five years now, so I know what he can do in the faceoff circle.
1:08:59
So we had no problem with him taking the draw.
1:09:03
Has it become a point of pride for this team to become known as a team that doesn't just fall apart when you're down by a couple?
1:09:09
Yeah, big time.
1:09:11
Especially, I think we took a bit tough loss to Ohio State where it ended up like 8-3 or something.
1:09:18
That was really disappointing.
1:09:20
Making sure we don't put ourselves in that situation, which a couple weeks ago on Ohio State, we were down 3-0 in the middle of the second and easily could have went that way.
1:09:28
But we battled back, found a way to win that game, and I think that's been a big focus for us not to give up at any point.
1:09:36
What's it like on the bench when you get that roll and you're down by two or three goals?
1:09:40
It's great.
1:09:40
A ton of enthusiasm from everyone.
1:09:43
Everyone feels the confidence going throughout the lineup, and we just come in waves at times.
1:09:49
It doesn't matter what line's out there.
1:09:50
We feel confident that that line can score and put our team in a good spot to come back.
1:09:55
Wisconsin did a really good job of keeping you guys in your toes last month when you were at the Coles Center.
1:09:59
Just watching the film in a month later now, what does Wisconsin do really well this year?
1:10:04
Good offensively, very good.
1:10:05
They got a lot of high end talent in their forwards.
1:10:10
We got to make sure we play smart against them.
1:10:12
If we decide that we're going to try to make plays in the wrong areas by the blue lines and stuff, they can capitalize on odd man rushes.
1:10:19
So we got to play really smart and limit their chances.
1:10:22
I think we're a team that can do the horse race thing, win 5-4 or 6-5 or something like that.
1:10:28
But against Wisconsin, I think we'd prefer the game to be a little bit lower scoring, which I know that didn't happen when we were out at the Coles Center, but I think that's a little more of a focus this time around.
1:10:39
How important was Sheehy's tying goal on Saturday?
1:10:41
What was it like playing in the line that was really successful on Saturday?
1:10:44
What was it just like playing in that line?
1:10:46
Yeah, it was huge.
1:10:47
Obviously, Ty's been great all year.
1:10:49
Made a huge play when we needed it to happen, and then unfortunately we gave up that third one, but we stuck with it and think he got one of the assists on the OT goal.
1:10:58
So yeah, Ty made a great play.
1:11:01
Actually, Ramon and Ty both made great plays on that goal, and then our line clicked at the right time.
1:11:06
This is three games in a row.
1:11:08
You've played basically with 11 forwards.
1:11:10
Is that helping the team deal with a little adversity in game?
1:11:14
Yeah, a little adversity is nothing wrong with that.
1:11:17
I think we've handled it well.
1:11:19
You get a little fatigued as far as when we were down two goals.
1:11:22
I think we were pretty much playing three lines, so you start feeling it a little bit and shift, and maybe you can only go 30 seconds at a time.
1:11:31
So just communicating well with our teammates and making sure we're on the same program when we go a guy down early in the game is a huge emphasis for us.
1:11:41
Sheehy has been using the word resilient a lot, so what is the biggest factor to make you guys such a resilient team?
1:11:48
I'm probably going to have to go with the word I've been using, a lot of confidence.
1:11:52
We feel good about who we are and what we've been doing, and having that, I guess, confidence, knowing that we can come back from certain situations to make us a really resilient bunch, I think, every weekend.
1:12:04
Rem Pitlick has been very good recently and terrific over the weekend.
1:12:07
What kind of growth have you seen in his game over the past couple of months?
1:12:10
Huge growth.
1:12:11
I can't remember what it was.
1:12:12
It might have been a month and a half ago.
1:12:14
I think I was standing right here, and I said things are going to start clicking for him.
1:12:17
Just things, you know, you get a little snake bit.
1:12:20
College hockey season is not that long.
1:12:22
You get a snake bit for 10, 15 games, and you're like, wow, this season is flying by quick.
1:12:26
But he's clicking now.
1:12:29
If he keeps rolling, he's going to be a big time weapon for us.
1:12:32
But overall, his maturity and just focus game to game and consistency has really improved, as you'd hope a freshman would in their second half of the season.
1:12:42
Can you describe his shot and his shooting accuracy?
1:12:44
What's special about the way he shoots?
1:12:46
Yeah, his release is the main thing.
1:12:49
Quick release, but it comes off like he's winding up for a slap shot or a hard wrist shot, and he's just got a quick little snap.
1:12:56
You guys saw it in Penn State with his couple of rush goals where it didn't take him long.
1:13:00
He just fired and beat the goalie clean.
1:13:02
So it's going to be one of his biggest weapons for the rest of his hockey career for sure, and it's obviously fun to play with a guy who can shoot like that.
1:13:10
Has he got the most accurate shot on the team?
1:13:13
Ah, most accurate shot.
1:13:15
I don't know if I can give that to a freshman.
1:13:19
I don't know.
1:13:20
Sheehy's got a pretty good shot.
1:13:23
Leon, Vinny, probably a little dark horse.
1:13:26
Bischoff has actually a really, really accurate shot.
1:13:28
He scores a ton of goals in practice, and he's starting to pump them in right now.
1:13:32
Who's the fastest?
1:13:33
Fastest guy on our team?
1:13:36
Can't give it to Rem, I want to.
1:13:43
Probably Vinny, he can fly both on and off the ice.
1:13:47
He's just a good athlete.
1:13:48
He can skate really well.
1:13:58
What's key for the Gophers to win this weekend against Wisconsin?
1:14:01
I think we just got to play our game.
1:14:02
We're a strong, fast, skilled team, and I think it doesn't really matter who our opponent is.
1:14:05
That's kind of our mentality, and I think that's what we need to do.
1:14:13
How has the last two series kind of just helped in your resilience and just having that confidence?
1:14:18
Yeah, I think the last two series have definitely helped that.
1:14:20
Our team never quits, and I think that's a really good MO to have.
1:14:24
We really keep going until the end, and so that's really good for our team.
1:14:27
Your individual...
1:14:28
go ahead.
1:14:29
Has it helped you guys?
1:14:31
What's been the positive in the last three games of having to go with only 11 forwards?
1:14:36
Well, I guess I wouldn't look at it as a positive.
1:14:39
It's never good to have a forward out, but I think it shows that we can battle through adversity, and we've done a really good job at that and just juggling lines and going for it, so that's been really good for our team to be able to do whatever and get some results.
1:14:52
Yeah, it's not always the easiest.
1:14:53
We have our line combinations during the week, and we're used to playing with certain guys that have chemistry.
1:14:58
It's never easy to just play with someone else, but you've got to do it as part of the game.
1:15:01
Your individual production has really picked up over the last few weeks.
1:15:04
Has something changed for you with your game?
1:15:06
No, I don't think anything's really changed.
1:15:08
I'm just getting a little bit more comfortable with college hockey, and I think our line's been really quick, and so hopefully we can continue that.
1:15:14
What would you say the biggest adjustment has been for you during your freshman year?
1:15:17
I think I just need to shoot the puck more.
1:15:19
I think coming into college and playing with Justin Kloos and Tyler Sheehy, they are really good players, and I think I was just deferring a little bit, giving the puck to them instead of shooting it myself.
1:15:28
Adjustment to the college game, how long does that take?
1:15:30
I mean, where are you now compared to, you know, let's say early November?
1:15:34
Yeah, I think I've come a long way, obviously.
1:15:36
There's an adjustment period.
1:15:38
You just kind of get used to the whole college life, playing against older, bigger, stronger players, and I think I'm adjusting to that.
1:15:45
Knowing how big this rivalry is, does it give you confidence coming off such strong play over the last weekend?
1:15:52
Yeah, I think we're a good team and we know that, so we're ready for anyone and we're excited to see what happens this weekend.
1:15:56
Tyler Sheehy is such a strong scorer.
1:16:00
What has he really helped in your scoring ability so far in this transition to college hockey?
1:16:04
I just try to watch him in practice the way he shoots the puck and kind of the scenes that he tends to shoot for.
1:16:08
I think it's someone that I really look at and try to model my game after a little bit and watch what he does during practice.
1:16:15
Ask Justin who had the most accurate shot and if it was yours, and he sort of said that if you weren't a freshman maybe he'd give it to you.
1:16:24
Is he dissing you?
1:16:25
Is he dissing me?
1:16:27
I'm not going to say much about Kloos or he.
1:16:29
Whatever he says goes.
1:16:32
So then who does have the most accurate shot do you think?
1:16:35
I think Tyler Sheehy.
1:16:36
He has a great shot and I'm jealous of it.
1:16:40
Rem, are there things about your game that have changed since you first started here or things about you physically?
1:16:46
Are you stronger, faster?
1:16:48
I think I just, I do a video with the coaches every week and they're always pointing out different little things that I can improve my game.
1:16:53
I think especially just kind of being harder on pucks, that's something that I've really improved at and continue to work on.
1:16:59
I think it's just part of the game, you really gotta be hard on pucks to get it back and get scoring chances.
1:17:04
What does it mean to have the confidence of the coaches and the freshmen?
1:17:09
Yeah, I think it's awesome for the coaches to have confidence in me.
1:17:13
It's not always an easy thing to do to come in here and play big minutes and I think I've been fortunate to get out there a little bit more than maybe I would have expected coming into the year.
1:17:20
We've talked with some of the other players about the resilience and the ability to rally with this team.
1:17:25
What is it like on the bench among the players when you guys are down by a goal or two?
1:17:30
What do people talk about?
1:17:31
What's the emotion like?
1:17:33
To be honest, I don't think we really talk a lot.
1:17:35
We've had some games this year where we have come back and I think it's just kind of a quiet conference that we all have.
1:17:40
When we get in the situation, that's maybe not the most ideal.
1:17:42
I think we all know that we are probably going to pull through and I think last week was a really good example of that.
1:17:47
You said you're jealous of Sheehy's shot, so it must be kind of tempting to pass to him sometimes.
1:17:52
What makes you decide to actually shoot it and be more selfish?
1:17:56
Well, I'm confident in my shot as well.
1:17:58
I think if there's an open spot, and I know I can score, I'll shoot it.
1:18:01
But obviously, like I said, Tyler is a great shooter and it's never a bad idea to give him the puck.
1:18:07
Did you have to think much before you pulled the trigger on that overtime, Cole?
1:18:10
No, I kind of saw everyone crashing on me, so I thought just get the puck to the net and luckily it went in.
1:18:16
Just going to throw it and see what happens.
1:18:23
Tyler, this team has developed such a knack recently for always being able to come back, rallying late, rallying under many different circumstances.
1:18:33
What has allowed you guys to do that and do you feel that it's a stronger sense than we've seen in the past with this team being able to do that?
1:18:42
Yeah, I think right now it's just our mindset and our resiliency to win.
1:18:47
It's kind of something I touched on last week, it was how resilient we are.
1:18:49
As a group we have great leaders and guys that are following them really well.
1:18:54
Right now our mindset is incredible with our will to win.
1:19:00
We're obviously not satisfied either, so every game we want to get better and better.
1:19:03
If we're down by a couple, we're not going to put our heads down, we're going to just keep fighting back.
1:19:08
Does it take a particular chemistry or set of personalities on a team to give a team that kind of spirit?
1:19:14
Yeah, I think so.
1:19:15
I think it starts with the leaders, and obviously you've got to have the right group of guys.
1:19:21
There's going to be times in a game where you're down by a couple, but we don't have the guys that are going to put their heads down in fold, where you have the guys that are going to fight back and try and win the game.
1:19:30
As resilient as the group is, how crazy was that on Saturday night?
1:19:34
It was.
1:19:34
That was nuts.
1:19:37
Since being here, it might have been the coolest comeback that we've had, so it was a really fun win for us.
1:19:45
What does Justin do as a center that makes your line so effective?
1:19:49
Well, he just plays with a ton of speed, and in the defensive zone, he's really responsible.
1:19:53
I think anytime me or Rem is caught down low, he can call us off, and he's always in the right spot.
1:20:02
So defensively, he's a great, great player.
1:20:05
Like I said before, his speed is incredible, and he can make a ton of plays.
1:20:10
So playing with him, it makes the game a lot easier, and it makes the game faster.
1:20:15
So he's obviously a great player and a great leader.
1:20:18
Do you guys think if you had foot races out there, he'd win?
1:20:21
I'm not sure.
1:20:22
I think I'm the slowest guy in the line.
1:20:24
So Rem's got a ton of speed as well.
1:20:27
But when Justin gets going, I don't know if too many guys are going to catch him.
1:20:31
Such a great weekend for Rem.
1:20:32
Have you seen over the past few weeks, is anything different about him?
1:20:36
Has he gotten to that point where you feel like he's maybe turned a corner or gotten more confidence?
1:20:41
Yeah, I think it might be a confidence thing where, you know, I think in practice we've kind of been telling him to shoot the puck.
1:20:47
He's got a great shot and sometimes he might look a little too much to pass.
1:20:51
And that's just kind of the way he plays.
1:20:53
He's a playmaker and you just got to remind him every once in a while to shoot it.
1:20:57
And when he does, it's going to end up in the back of the net a lot.
1:21:00
So it's kind of been showing up for him lately.
1:21:02
Are you guys getting better about communicating on the ice and talking while you're on the ice together?
1:21:07
Yeah, I think so.
1:21:08
I think anytime you get to play with two other guys for most of the year, you start to develop that chemistry.
1:21:13
And right now we've played together for quite a long time.
1:21:17
So we're starting to understand where we're going to be out there on the ice and kind of talking when we get off the ice and things like that.
1:21:24
But right now it's really kind of clicking for us.
1:21:27
What challenges were there last weekend with playing what was the entirety of most games going forwards?
1:21:32
It was a little bit tough.
1:21:34
I think it's kind of one of those things where you really have to listen to coaches on the bench just so you don't get too many men penalty or things like that.
1:21:40
But yeah, I think it's one of those things where you've just got to be, the next guy's got to step up.
1:21:46
And we were able to do that where mix and match and lines a little bit.
1:21:51
And the next guy was able to do the guy's job.
1:21:55
So it was good.
1:21:56
You work all off season and throughout the season to maintain and people form is that kind of just an example of it?
1:22:01
Yeah, exactly.
1:22:02
I think we've been working hard the entire year.
1:22:04
This team has a lot of depth.
1:22:06
So when one guy goes down, the other guy's got to step up, like I was saying.
1:22:10
So we were able to do that.
1:22:11
Do you get a sense from other teams that this Gopher team's a really hard team to defend against?
1:22:17
I think so.
1:22:17
I think we're able to put up three point whatever, three point whatever goals of games and we're able to put a lot of shots on goal as well.
1:22:25
You know, it's not just the stat line that I think other teams are going to be saying that about, but it's our speed and our ability to make plays and things like that.
1:22:34
So right now it's really kind of going well for us offensively.
1:22:38
Hopefully we can keep that going.
1:22:40
With Wisconsin being resurgent this season and this series being very meaningful, will there be more emotion invested than perhaps there has been the last couple of years with the Wisconsin series?
1:22:50
Yeah, I think so.
1:22:51
I think anytime you get to play Wisconsin, there's going to be a little bit of a battle and you're going to have to take a punch and give a punch.
1:22:57
But yeah, it's a huge weekend for us.
1:22:59
It's six big points on the line and it could ultimately decide the conference.
1:23:04
So it's going to be two really tough games and we know that they're going to come out and play tough against us so we've got to be ready to go Friday night.
1:23:12
You guys scored most of your goals off the rush last weekend.
1:23:14
What's it going to take to have success in zone against Wisconsin?
1:23:17
I think just play behind their defenseman, playing low and kind of making them guys turn.
1:23:23
They have some bigger guys and things like that and with a big sheet, we know that Wisconsin plays on that at the Cole Center so it's not going to be too much different for them but if we put it behind their defenseman, get pucks in that, I think we'll be all right.
1:23:38
How important is it for the top fourers to also contribute defensively?
1:23:42
It's huge.
1:23:42
I think you've got to be responsible both ends of the ice.
1:23:46
You know, when you got your top forwards playing well defensively, I think other guys feed off that so it's really big.
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