Fucking relegate them all in their domestic leagues for trying to pull that shit. Embarrassing.
FIFA came out and said they would consider not allowing players who participate in this to play for their national teams. And all the domestic leagues came out very strongly against this today with statements.
If FIFA and the leagues stick together and threaten harsh consequences, even expulsion, for these clubs, they might be able to stop it from happening. We can only hope...
Tottenham is like the little brother that mom made the older kids bring with
Saw a funny tweet comparing Tottenham to Western Michigan. Got a belly laugh.
Saw a funny tweet comparing Tottenham to Western Michigan. Got a belly laugh.
I did think of the Nacho when I saw this. Somebody has to be the bottom of the league. Tottenham would fill that role perfectly. Just Western and Miami did.
I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.
That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it
In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.
That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it
In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
I feel like FIFA would do it, I hope they do. This whole thing is a direct attack on the European game, a bastardization of Continental competition.
My interest in European soccer will drastically go down if this ends up happening.
This is going to be VERY interesting
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=19
I think FIFA would not hesitate to do it.
Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
The logic? What is the logic for everything in the world?
$$$
Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
Germany clubs like Bayern and Dortmund have 50%+1 fan ownership, because they are in Germany I believe. The fans have a say, unlike in other places. PSG being owned by Qataris probably has something to do with their absence.
Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
The logic would be that there is no threat of relegation out of the league, like there currently is with the CL. If you're not good enough, you don't get to be in the Champions League. This would shelter those clubs from that, which is complete and utter horseshit.
It would be like in college football if Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, Texas, etc, etc, all just said "We're just going to bypass the selection committee and just hold a playoff with all of us every year, regardless of how good or bad we are"
There would be riots if that happened...
Interesting that there are no German or French clubs on the list, specifically Bayern and PSG. Not sure the logic of trying to form a super league when that list already looks like the Champions League.
Germany clubs like Bayern and Dortmund have 50%+1 fan ownership, because they are in Germany I believe. The fans have a say, unlike in other places. PSG being owned by Qataris probably has something to do with their absence.
Nailed it with PSG. One of their main owners also owns BeIN Sports, who has a contract with the Champions League in Europe, I believe. So the PSG owners have a financial stake in the CL. Were that not the case, they probably would have been the first ones banging the drum for this Super League, lol
This is going to be VERY interesting
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=19br >
So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.
What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.
That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it
In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
It is against Premier League bylaws to enter any competition without the approval of The FA. So, while they can not be banned from joinig this Super League, they can be kicked out of the Premier League. I can't imagine any fan base accepting this whole thing.
This is going to be VERY interesting
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=19br >
So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.
What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
Well, the course of action for a player in this case would be to go to his club and say, "I'm not going to play in these games, if you refuse to drop out of this league, I demand that you sell me to a team who is not in this league." At the end of the day, the players hold the ultimate power in deciding whether they want to play. The clubs can't force them to do anything. Assuming FIFA/UEFA keep that stance, and says that anyone who plays in a Super League game can never play for their national team again, that will have to be the choice of every player.
Guys like Aubamayang at Arsenal, who is from Gabon, never going to realistically win a World Cup, maybe he's OK with it. But a guy like Paul Pogba at Manchester United, who is from France and still in his prime, I'd imagine he'd have a big problem with that. Hell, look at Christian Pulisic at Chelsea. He'd have to decide if he's OK with never playing for the US National Team again.
The national teams are so important to a lot of these guys. If anything is going to kill this league, that will be it, IMO.
I don’t think the leagues can ban the clubs joining this because of the massive impact it would have on all the other teams in those leagues.
That said if FIFA did decide to ban them from International Duty that might have some teeth, but I doubt they have the balls to do it
In other news, what was your favorite Jose Mourinho memory at Tottenham?
It is against Premier League bylaws to enter any competition without the approval of The FA. So, while they can not be banned from joinig this Super League, they can be kicked out of the Premier League. I can't imagine any fan base accepting this whole thing.
It's really kind of a fascinating game of chicken that will be going on here.
The PL clubs are thinking "There's no way they'll ACTUALLY kick us out of the league", and the PL is thinking "There's no way they'll go through with this if we kick them out of the league".
First one to blink loses.
This is going to be VERY interesting
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=19br >
So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.
What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
Well, the course of action for a player in this case would be to go to his club and say, "I'm not going to play in these games, if you refuse to drop out of this league, I demand that you sell me to a team who is not in this league." At the end of the day, the players hold the ultimate power in deciding whether they want to play. The clubs can't force them to do anything. Assuming FIFA/UEFA keep that stance, and says that anyone who plays in a Super League game can never play for their national team again, that will have to be the choice of every player.
Guys like Aubamayang at Arsenal, who is from Gabon, never going to realistically win a World Cup, maybe he's OK with it. But a guy like Paul Pogba at Manchester United, who is from France and still in his prime, I'd imagine he'd have a big problem with that. Hell, look at Christian Pulisic at Chelsea. He'd have to decide if he's OK with never playing for the US National Team again.
The national teams are so important to a lot of these guys. If anything is going to kill this league, that will be it, IMO.
I completely understand that the national teams are really important to the players. But if they demand to be sold to another team, but their club doesn't, do they have any recourse other than to stop playing entirely, other than for the national team games?
Of course, any player not already with one of the teams in question could just refuse to sign a contract there, so it kind of fixes itself in the long-term.
Certainly a huge mess all around.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
This is going to be VERY interesting
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=19br >
So, honest question, as I have no idea how their contracts work.
What can the players actually do? Do they even have the option to refuse to play these games?
Well, the course of action for a player in this case would be to go to his club and say, "I'm not going to play in these games, if you refuse to drop out of this league, I demand that you sell me to a team who is not in this league." At the end of the day, the players hold the ultimate power in deciding whether they want to play. The clubs can't force them to do anything. Assuming FIFA/UEFA keep that stance, and says that anyone who plays in a Super League game can never play for their national team again, that will have to be the choice of every player.
Guys like Aubamayang at Arsenal, who is from Gabon, never going to realistically win a World Cup, maybe he's OK with it. But a guy like Paul Pogba at Manchester United, who is from France and still in his prime, I'd imagine he'd have a big problem with that. Hell, look at Christian Pulisic at Chelsea. He'd have to decide if he's OK with never playing for the US National Team again.
The national teams are so important to a lot of these guys. If anything is going to kill this league, that will be it, IMO.
I completely understand that the national teams are really important to the players. But if they demand to be sold to another team, but their club doesn't, do they have any recourse other than to stop playing entirely, other than for the national team games?
Certainly a huge mess all around.
I don't think so, they would just be stuck not playing until their contract runs out.
But the club would have to be REALLY petty to let that happen. Like any sports league, the players are a commodity to them. They have a commodity which is about to provide no value to them, so they might as well sell it while someone will give them money for it, rather than just let it go for free. So at the end of the day, I think if the players flat out say "I won't play for you", the clubs will comply, and sell them.
Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Oh PSG and Bayern will be joining at some point, you can bet your butt on it. There are supposed to be 15 founding members and the three seats being warmed up are surely for Bayern, Dortmund, and PSG. All three were members of the old cartel dubbed the G-14.
Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Oh PSG and Bayern will be joining at some point, you can bet your butt on it. There are supposed to be 15 founding members and the three seats being warmed up are surely for Bayern, Dortmund, and PSG. All three were members of the old cartel dubbed the G-14.
Wouldn't Bayern and Dortmund need the fans' approval, because of the 51% rule? I don't forsee any fan base voting for this.
https://twitter.com/Chris78Williams/status/1384182312779194380?s=19
WOW. UEFA is not fucking around
Makes sense about PSG and Bayern. I can't see the players agreeing to forgo National team participation.
Oh PSG and Bayern will be joining at some point, you can bet your butt on it. There are supposed to be 15 founding members and the three seats being warmed up are surely for Bayern, Dortmund, and PSG. All three were members of the old cartel dubbed the G-14.
Wouldn't Bayern and Dortmund need the fans' approval, because of the 51% rule? I don't forsee any fan base voting for this.
I won't claim to know the intricacies of their ownership/approval situation, but they won't really be left with a choice if this goes through. While they are what I will dub very "proud" clubs, are they really going to sit on the sidelines of what will ultimately become the only top European competition? They definitely aren't immune to the current financial issues that are plaguing the vast majority of football clubs. Not to mention, who is going to want to play for the noble German clubs on the outside that are not able to offer the amount of wages the Super League clubs can?
Personally, I'm still hoping this is some huge bluff, but it's probably way beyond that now.
Uh, so Florentino Perez just said that they didn't invite PSG lol
Edit: Watch Mbappe move to Real for free in a year
Uh, so Florentino Perez just said that they didn't invite PSG lol
Edit: Watch Mbappe move to Real for free in a year
I don't believe that for one second lol
If PSG wanted to come they definitely would have invited them.
Probably 
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1384470333554499588?s=20
How out of touch are these ownership groups that they didn't know this would be met with extreme backlash?
I also read an article last night saying that even the managers at the clubs didn't know this was coming.
Uh, so Florentino Perez just said that they didn't invite PSG lol
Edit: Watch Mbappe move to Real for free in a year
I don't believe that for one second lol
If PSG wanted to come they definitely would have invited them.
PSG is owned by the State of Qatar. Also owned by Qatar is beIN Sports that has the current TV rights to the Champions League. Along with Qatar hosting the 2022 World Cup, A PSG move to the Super League would really tick off UEFA, and FIFA. If it wasn't for those two reasons, I'm sure they would have been the 13th team.
Hard work will beat talent, if talent doesn't work hard.
How out of touch are these ownership groups that they didn't know this would be met with extreme backlash?
I also read an article last night saying that even the managers at the clubs didn't know this was coming.
Pep had his Aston Villa presser this morning and said he found out a few hours before the world found out. I missed what the City PR officer said before it kicked off, but Pep was able to spend a good 5-10 minutes questioning everything around it. Then they shut it down lol.
How out of touch are these ownership groups that they didn't know this would be met with extreme backlash?
I also read an article last night saying that even the managers at the clubs didn't know this was coming.
Most of the 12 teams have foreign ownership (American, Asian, Russian, Middle East). They really misread the room when it came to fan support. The possibility of no domestic league, or cup play, by breaking off to form the Super League would kill European soccer at it's roots, and that is the basis of any supporter.
It was also the Super League's basic assumption they could just up and start their own competition and still have their domestic games intact. Now that it's not the case, there is little incentive for teams to breakaway.
That's why German teams with the 50+1 ownership model didn't even consider the SL. If they did, the fanbase would rather burn their stadium to the ground vs not having domestic games. Leipzig is one of a few exceptions to the 50+1 rule (owned by Red Bull) that I thought might find the SL beneficial and leave the Bundesliga.
Hard work will beat talent, if talent doesn't work hard.
I don't think the PL has the power to kick them out, nor is it really in their best interest. How would the next television contract go without the largest clubs in it?
The players, managers, and fans are probably the only thing that can stop this now.
I don't think the PL has the power to kick them out, nor is it really in their best interest. How would the next television contract go without the largest clubs in it?
The players, managers, and fans are probably the only thing that can stop this now.
Jordan Henderson reportedly has arranged a meeting with the PL captains today. Will be interesting if the players come out united against this.
Klopp and Milner have already said something.
Sounds like some teams are already walking back their commitment.
Hard work will beat talent, if talent doesn't work hard.
Little wonder why.
https://twitter.com/IceWerner/status/1384556615978868738?s=20
Heh, fair play to them, but I think the change was already in motion for awhile. City will be next.
Heh, fair play to them, but I think the change was already in motion for awhile. City will be next.
Their cookie is quickly crumbling.
Hard work will beat talent, if talent doesn't work hard.
Rumors that Levy wants Spurs out as well.
Wonder if all of them are going to pull out.
Does anyone recognize Peter Cech without his headgear?
The backlash thus far has been far more swift than I expected this quickly
Does anyone recognize Peter Cech without his headgear?
The backlash thus far has been far more swift than I expected this quickly
Credit to the fan bases over there. They were NOT going to take this lying down.
Has an American fanbase ever actively protested something their team did?
Does anyone recognize Peter Cech without his headgear?
The backlash thus far has been far more swift than I expected this quickly
Credit to the fan bases over there. They were NOT going to take this lying down.
Has an American fanbase ever actively protested something their team did?
Man City is out now too
Reports that Barca is out, too.
RIP Super League, 2021-2021
Does anyone recognize Peter Cech without his headgear?
The backlash thus far has been far more swift than I expected this quickly
Credit to the fan bases over there. They were NOT going to take this lying down.
Has an American fanbase ever actively protested something their team did?
Man City is out now too
Being reported now that City were first. Sorry Chelsea lol
Yep, and Agnelli resigned from Juventus. The weasels have no path forward - the swamp is being drained.
the swamp is being drained.
Wait, FIFA's disbanding? 
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
Very entertaining seeing this thing go down in flames so fast 
Very entertaining seeing this thing go down in flames so fast
For you and I we now have hope the teams we support will actually win another trophy in the future 