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Holy cow Faber...

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I'm not saying the Blackhawks are disinterested in this game but they keep checking their watches this period.  

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Anyone with a half of a brain in hockey iq should see that Faber should win the Calder. Just Bettman and his entourage crowned Bedard over a year ago with it. No way does Bettman allow egg on his face. I would be shocked if the voters stand up to Bettman and vote Faber.  

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Anyone with a half of a brain in hockey iq should see that Faber should win the Calder. Just Bettman and his entourage crowned Bedard over a year ago with it. No way does Bettman allow egg on his face. I would be shocked if the voters stand up to Bettman and vote Faber.  

Cmon man. That would mean the sports writers would throw the vote and we know that most of them are not fans of Bettman and they would expose him in a minute if he tried to do that.  We are biased, but Brock should win, but it would not be a total shock if Bedard wins if they strictly look at points scored.  


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Posted by: @frozen4champs

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Anyone with a half of a brain in hockey iq should see that Faber should win the Calder. Just Bettman and his entourage crowned Bedard over a year ago with it. No way does Bettman allow egg on his face. I would be shocked if the voters stand up to Bettman and vote Faber.  

Cmon man. That would mean the sports writers would throw the vote and we know that most of them are not fans of Bettman and they would expose him in a minute if he tried to do that.  We are biased, but Brock should win, but it would not be a total shock if Bedard wins if they strictly look at points scored.  


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Anyone with a half of a brain in hockey iq should see that Faber should win the Calder. Just Bettman and his entourage crowned Bedard over a year ago with it. No way does Bettman allow egg on his face. I would be shocked if the voters stand up to Bettman and vote Faber.  

Cmon man. That would mean the sports writers would throw the vote and we know that most of them are not fans of Bettman and they would expose him in a minute if he tried to do that.  We are biased, but Brock should win, but it would not be a total shock if Bedard wins if they strictly look at points scored.  


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Fluery's revenge...

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I attended 2 Wild games this year, so I have been getting lots of emails from them begging me to buy more tickets...

In my inbox this morning, I have an email from the Wild. 

The subject line reads: "We thought this season went pretty well! Tell us what you think!"

 

You really think this season "went pretty well"???  Honestly, it is really disheartening that the franchise feels this is good enough.


   
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Posted by: @fightclub30

I attended 2 Wild games this year, so I have been getting lots of emails from them begging me to buy more tickets...

In my inbox this morning, I have an email from the Wild. 

The subject line reads: "We thought this season went pretty well! Tell us what you think!"

 

You really think this season "went pretty well"???  Honestly, it is really disheartening that the franchise feels this is good enough.

I received the same email, and had exactly the same response. Really bizarre way to send out a mass email like that.

 


   
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I attended 2 Wild games this year, so I have been getting lots of emails from them begging me to buy more tickets...

In my inbox this morning, I have an email from the Wild. 

The subject line reads: "We thought this season went pretty well! Tell us what you think!"

 

You really think this season "went pretty well"???  Honestly, it is really disheartening that the franchise feels this is good enough.

 

Pretty well?


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I attended 2 Wild games this year, so I have been getting lots of emails from them begging me to buy more tickets...

In my inbox this morning, I have an email from the Wild. 

The subject line reads: "We thought this season went pretty well! Tell us what you think!"

 

You really think this season "went pretty well"???  Honestly, it is really disheartening that the franchise feels this is good enough.

 

Pretty well?


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nobody died.  Guerin only had to settle one lawsuit. The locker room has never been more fun. Kaprizov even started speaking a little English.  What more could fans be expecting?

 


   
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Surely every ad campaign out there freely admits their product has flaws, but "please buy it anyway". 

Of course they know it wasn't a successful season, but they're trying to sell tickets. 


   
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I don't love my "for you twitter feed" being full of these fan girl (or boy) accounts... especially when the bio says 21 years old. Some examples are fan accounts for Duhaime, Faber, Knies, Sammy Walker, Boldy etc. I just find it odd that there are adults out there who seem to have their account revolving arounf these players and almost having a microscope on them. I want to make it clear I'm fine with a fan account if it is mostly hockey related stats for a player but a lot of these accounts feel like they are run by middle school girls then I click on the profile and they are in their 20's. 


   
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The behind the scenes story about the Fluery prank.

https://twitter.com/JoeSmithNHL/status/1777816896290668827

 

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Surely every ad campaign out there freely admits their product has flaws, but "please buy it anyway". 

Of course they know it wasn't a successful season, but they're trying to sell tickets. 

 

I understand that, but the Wild themselves set the expectations before the season; "We fully expect to be in the playoffs, and compete" yadda, yadda, yadda.  They locked up several guys long term.  How about using this to try and find something to be excited about for next year?  "This season didn't work out how we wanted to, but Faber might will the Calder, and next year we'll have Spurgeon back and we will look to build The Wall in St. Paul."  Give me some hope, and something to get excited about, not just a blank "We think this year went pretty well!" 

Other than Kaprizov still being effective with so little help, and Faber being a pretty good D, what exactly "went pretty well" this year?

Numerous off-ice issues with staff leaving, the Wild and NHL having to investigate.  We still don't know exactly what happened, but where there is smoke, there is usually a fire.

You had bad goaltending.  Fluery and Gus played hot potato with the stater's role - I don't want it, you take it.  Trying to see who could have their numbers fall further.

You lost one of your better defenseman right away in Spurgeon.  What's depressing is you lack of depth in having Merril and Goligoski (who you re-signed after continually healthy-scratching) out there.  But hey, built-in excuse.  I don't value Spurgeon as highly as some do, but I am comfortable saying he is better than Goligoski, Merril, and Bogosian.

All the guys you re-signed to long term deals had marginally worse to exceptionally worse seasons.  That 5 year deal for Gaudreau looking pretty ugly right now.  Marcus Johansson is AHL replacement level.  And hey, we just signed another 33+ guy to a 2 year deal in Bogosain.  More GRIT! outstanding! Just want this team teams, more slow, old players who can't score.

You went something like 0-9-1 against the top three teams in the central, and it seems like that is about to be 0-10-1.  Is that "pretty well"?  (0-3-0 vs Dallas, 0-4-0 vs Winnipeg, 0-2-1 vs Colorado)

At least 3 times late in the season, they rattled off a few wins and then had a game where "if they win this one, they will be right in the thick of the playoff hunt" and completely peed down their leg each time.  But hey, things "went pretty well!"

I just think it's a really bad email to send out at the end of a season where you significantly missed YOUR OWN expectations.  If I fell way short of my job performance, and went into my review and said "Well, things went pretty well!" when they clearly didn't, I'd probably have to have a long conversation about expectations and performance.

 

I am just questioning nearly every move the Wild are making, because every time I think I figure out a plan, they do something I don't expect, and not in a good way.  The country club atmosphere we had here...  Billy G created his own now.  With all these aging vets who aren't that good locked into comfortable, multi-year deals with NMC.  I don't see how this team competes in the Central next year, anymore than they did this year.

 


   
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I’d also love it if we could stop being constantly reminded we lost in the championship game a year ago.  😥


   
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Colorado is proving my point.  The Wild are NOWHERE close in the central.  Nowhere close.


   
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Posted by: @fightclub30

Colorado is proving my point.  The Wild are NOWHERE close in the central.  Nowhere close.

I doubt anyone here thinks they did pretty well this season.  I simply pointed out the #1 rule in marketing. 

 


   
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@slap-shot so either they are blatantly lying saying things went well... or don't care because they are still selling tickets... or completely oblivious to what fans want/expect.  I don't think any of those options are good.

Why say anything?  Just send the survey asking for fan feedback.  There is no need to say "we think things went pretty well."  it isn't an email asking to buy tickets, it is a fan feedback/survey email.

Sorry, I will leave it alone now.  Just caught me as completely missing the mark.


   




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If the Wild got league average goaltending, they'd be in the playoffs. That's the biggest issue to solve IMO. Personally, I'd get rid of Gus, re-sign Flower and promote Jesper. Flower isn't great at this point, but he'd be a great mentor and likely about the same statistically as any other affordable goalie out there.

 

For the team to take the next step, it'll be up to the new crop of kids. Jesper, Khus, Yurov, Ohgren etc. That's what never came together in the Parise/Suter era. None of Granlund, Coyle, Zucker, Nino became real stars. They were all good, but just not good enough to push them over the edge. Now we have 2 guys who are better than all of those guys in Boldy and Kaprizov (though Boldy needs to prove himself in the playoffs). 

Call me crazy, but I still believe in the team long term. I'm not hung up on the extensions. Freddy had a terrible year, but I think he'll bounce back. Even if he gets relegated to like 4th line center with PK and shootout specialist, that'd be great out of him. He's not the guy we need in the top 6. The young guys have to come up and un-seat some vets. Plenty of spots coming open for them to do so. Hartman is a good player who can slot in a variety of places in the lineup. Only 1 more year of Johansson. 2 more of Zuccarello, and 1 more of 14.7. Plenty of flexibility upcoming.


   
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If the Wild got league average goaltending, they'd be in the playoffs. That's the biggest issue to solve IMO. Personally, I'd get rid of Gus, re-sign Flower and promote Jesper. Flower isn't great at this point, but he'd be a great mentor and likely about the same statistically as any other affordable goalie out there.

 

For the team to take the next step, it'll be up to the new crop of kids. Jesper, Khus, Yurov, Ohgren etc. That's what never came together in the Parise/Suter era. None of Granlund, Coyle, Zucker, Nino became real stars. They were all good, but just not good enough to push them over the edge. Now we have 2 guys who are better than all of those guys in Boldy and Kaprizov (though Boldy needs to prove himself in the playoffs). 

Call me crazy, but I still believe in the team long term. I'm not hung up on the extensions. Freddy had a terrible year, but I think he'll bounce back. Even if he gets relegated to like 4th line center with PK and shootout specialist, that'd be great out of him. He's not the guy we need in the top 6. The young guys have to come up and un-seat some vets. Plenty of spots coming open for them to do so. Hartman is a good player who can slot in a variety of places in the lineup. Only 1 more year of Johansson. 2 more of Zuccarello, and 1 more of 14.7. Plenty of flexibility upcoming.

Please no more flower.  Please no.  Great guy but he is a below average goalie at this point of his career.  Wallstedt/Gus combo should be fine.   We just don't have the personnel in front of them to make anyone look great.

 


   
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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 


   
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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 

Agree 100% with this.

 


   
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Wallstedt should be playing Saturday vs San Jose and the season finale vs Seattle.  

Or give the final to MAF and let him get a "goodbye game" in at the X, if you are not doing that, then Wallstedt should be playing that game.

Agreed on Gus.  His trade value is so low right now, that it doesn't make sense to trade him for "Future considerations" or whatever. 

 


   
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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 

yup this team will be marginal to bad next year as well with almost the exact same group coming back. the problem is what the contracts look like right now and what you're going to do about them given none of them are getting younger/moving into their prime aside from Kappy and Boldy that are on bigger contracts now. Obviously we all know about the 14.7. but some other things to figure out...

Maybe you can move Johannsen next year at the deadline, but at least we can walk away from him unless he improves after next season.

Freddie's contract looks gross right now with the year he's had, but the cap is projected to go up another 4 million which means vets like Freddie will command a little more money so this one might not look so bad

Definitely shoiuld move on from Fleury this year. Wallstedt and Gus and then you see what you have in Wallstedt and can move on from Gus fully if he's poor (or move him at the deadline if he's good and you like what you see in Wallstedt). Bringing Flower back adds nothing for a team that is not going to be a contender

 

In 2 years,

Khusnutdinov will be an RFA. We'll see if he pans out which I guess would be a good sign he's unseated people if we have to pay him

Rossi will be up for extension/resigning

Faber, Middlelton and Merrill all are free agents. Assume they're going to have to throw essentially Suter's contract at Faber to keep him (which would be worth it). That, however, would put us at 3 dmen making 6 million plus which will be 1/4 of the cap. That while still having Zuccy, Hartman, and Foligno under contract. Just some ugly deals with no movement clauses in them that are really going to hamper this team one way or the other as you're going to be stuck on young guys breaking through or these guys producing again as they won't have the dollars to grab any big name FAs. 

 

Just overall some weird contract management from Guerin that make me curious to see what they're planning for the future. 

 


   




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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 

yup this team will be marginal to bad next year as well with almost the exact same group coming back. the problem is what the contracts look like right now and what you're going to do about them given none of them are getting younger/moving into their prime aside from Kappy and Boldy that are on bigger contracts now. Obviously we all know about the 14.7. but some other things to figure out...

Maybe you can move Johannsen next year at the deadline, but at least we can walk away from him unless he improves after next season.

Freddie's contract looks gross right now with the year he's had, but the cap is projected to go up another 4 million which means vets like Freddie will command a little more money so this one might not look so bad

Definitely shoiuld move on from Fleury this year. Wallstedt and Gus and then you see what you have in Wallstedt and can move on from Gus fully if he's poor (or move him at the deadline if he's good and you like what you see in Wallstedt). Bringing Flower back adds nothing for a team that is not going to be a contender

 

In 2 years,

Khusnutdinov will be an RFA. We'll see if he pans out which I guess would be a good sign he's unseated people if we have to pay him

Rossi will be up for extension/resigning

Faber, Middlelton and Merrill all are free agents. Assume they're going to have to throw essentially Suter's contract at Faber to keep him (which would be worth it). That, however, would put us at 3 dmen making 6 million plus which will be 1/4 of the cap. That while still having Zuccy, Hartman, and Foligno under contract. Just some ugly deals with no movement clauses in them that are really going to hamper this team one way or the other as you're going to be stuck on young guys breaking through or these guys producing again as they won't have the dollars to grab any big name FAs. 

 

Just overall some weird contract management from Guerin that make me curious to see what they're planning for the future. 

 

I wouldn't want to go into next year with Wallstedt as the #2 goalie. He needs to play 50-60 games next year.  I would like to see them sign a Stalock level goalie to sit the bench behind Gus. Call up Wallstedt throughout the season to get 20ish NHL games in. If the kid proves to be too good to keep sending him back to Iowa, then you just waive the other goalie. Would be a nice problem to have. 

 


   
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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 

yup this team will be marginal to bad next year as well with almost the exact same group coming back. the problem is what the contracts look like right now and what you're going to do about them given none of them are getting younger/moving into their prime aside from Kappy and Boldy that are on bigger contracts now. Obviously we all know about the 14.7. but some other things to figure out...

Maybe you can move Johannsen next year at the deadline, but at least we can walk away from him unless he improves after next season.

Freddie's contract looks gross right now with the year he's had, but the cap is projected to go up another 4 million which means vets like Freddie will command a little more money so this one might not look so bad

Definitely shoiuld move on from Fleury this year. Wallstedt and Gus and then you see what you have in Wallstedt and can move on from Gus fully if he's poor (or move him at the deadline if he's good and you like what you see in Wallstedt). Bringing Flower back adds nothing for a team that is not going to be a contender

 

In 2 years,

Khusnutdinov will be an RFA. We'll see if he pans out which I guess would be a good sign he's unseated people if we have to pay him

Rossi will be up for extension/resigning

Faber, Middlelton and Merrill all are free agents. Assume they're going to have to throw essentially Suter's contract at Faber to keep him (which would be worth it). That, however, would put us at 3 dmen making 6 million plus which will be 1/4 of the cap. That while still having Zuccy, Hartman, and Foligno under contract. Just some ugly deals with no movement clauses in them that are really going to hamper this team one way or the other as you're going to be stuck on young guys breaking through or these guys producing again as they won't have the dollars to grab any big name FAs. 

 

Just overall some weird contract management from Guerin that make me curious to see what they're planning for the future. 

 

I wouldn't want to go into next year with Wallstedt as the #2 goalie. He needs to play 50-60 games next year.  I would like to see them sign a Stalock level goalie to sit the bench behind Gus. Call up Wallstedt throughout the season to get 20ish NHL games in. If the kid proves to be too good to keep sending him back to Iowa, then you just waive the other goalie. Would be a nice problem to have. 

 

They should just go full tank mode next year so play all the rookie/cheap guys.

 


   
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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 

yup this team will be marginal to bad next year as well with almost the exact same group coming back. the problem is what the contracts look like right now and what you're going to do about them given none of them are getting younger/moving into their prime aside from Kappy and Boldy that are on bigger contracts now. Obviously we all know about the 14.7. but some other things to figure out...

Maybe you can move Johannsen next year at the deadline, but at least we can walk away from him unless he improves after next season.

Freddie's contract looks gross right now with the year he's had, but the cap is projected to go up another 4 million which means vets like Freddie will command a little more money so this one might not look so bad

Definitely shoiuld move on from Fleury this year. Wallstedt and Gus and then you see what you have in Wallstedt and can move on from Gus fully if he's poor (or move him at the deadline if he's good and you like what you see in Wallstedt). Bringing Flower back adds nothing for a team that is not going to be a contender

 

In 2 years,

Khusnutdinov will be an RFA. We'll see if he pans out which I guess would be a good sign he's unseated people if we have to pay him

Rossi will be up for extension/resigning

Faber, Middlelton and Merrill all are free agents. Assume they're going to have to throw essentially Suter's contract at Faber to keep him (which would be worth it). That, however, would put us at 3 dmen making 6 million plus which will be 1/4 of the cap. That while still having Zuccy, Hartman, and Foligno under contract. Just some ugly deals with no movement clauses in them that are really going to hamper this team one way or the other as you're going to be stuck on young guys breaking through or these guys producing again as they won't have the dollars to grab any big name FAs. 

 

Just overall some weird contract management from Guerin that make me curious to see what they're planning for the future. 

 

I wouldn't want to go into next year with Wallstedt as the #2 goalie. He needs to play 50-60 games next year.  I would like to see them sign a Stalock level goalie to sit the bench behind Gus. Call up Wallstedt throughout the season to get 20ish NHL games in. If the kid proves to be too good to keep sending him back to Iowa, then you just waive the other goalie. Would be a nice problem to have. 

 

They should just go full tank mode next year so play all the rookie/cheap guys.

 

they can't. Don't have the roster space or cap room 

 


   
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Fleury was done two years ago. The talk about bringing him back is absurd. Unless he's willing to come back for league minimum, and spend a quarter of the season in the press box, there's no reason to even consider re-signing him.

Gus was terrible this year, but I think you're better off giving him another year to see what he really is, instead of giving him away for nothing. Especially when you consider that next year is another throw away season anyway. 

yup this team will be marginal to bad next year as well with almost the exact same group coming back. the problem is what the contracts look like right now and what you're going to do about them given none of them are getting younger/moving into their prime aside from Kappy and Boldy that are on bigger contracts now. Obviously we all know about the 14.7. but some other things to figure out...

Maybe you can move Johannsen next year at the deadline, but at least we can walk away from him unless he improves after next season.

Freddie's contract looks gross right now with the year he's had, but the cap is projected to go up another 4 million which means vets like Freddie will command a little more money so this one might not look so bad

Definitely shoiuld move on from Fleury this year. Wallstedt and Gus and then you see what you have in Wallstedt and can move on from Gus fully if he's poor (or move him at the deadline if he's good and you like what you see in Wallstedt). Bringing Flower back adds nothing for a team that is not going to be a contender

 

In 2 years,

Khusnutdinov will be an RFA. We'll see if he pans out which I guess would be a good sign he's unseated people if we have to pay him

Rossi will be up for extension/resigning

Faber, Middlelton and Merrill all are free agents. Assume they're going to have to throw essentially Suter's contract at Faber to keep him (which would be worth it). That, however, would put us at 3 dmen making 6 million plus which will be 1/4 of the cap. That while still having Zuccy, Hartman, and Foligno under contract. Just some ugly deals with no movement clauses in them that are really going to hamper this team one way or the other as you're going to be stuck on young guys breaking through or these guys producing again as they won't have the dollars to grab any big name FAs. 

 

Just overall some weird contract management from Guerin that make me curious to see what they're planning for the future. 

 

I wouldn't want to go into next year with Wallstedt as the #2 goalie. He needs to play 50-60 games next year.  I would like to see them sign a Stalock level goalie to sit the bench behind Gus. Call up Wallstedt throughout the season to get 20ish NHL games in. If the kid proves to be too good to keep sending him back to Iowa, then you just waive the other goalie. Would be a nice problem to have. 

 

They should just go full tank mode next year so play all the rookie/cheap guys.

 

they can't. Don't have the roster space or cap room 

 

i'd personally be doing the reverse on wallstedt/gus and be starting wallstedt 1a and gus as your 1b if wallstedt is bad. gotta figure out what you have in him and have one year to do it and i don't love the option of giving an extension to to be your 1 unless you've seen him play a good number of games as your 1. Even if he's good next year, his numbers wont' be great as the team will suck and you'll still get him at a decent price. If you want to do the up/down thing, sure. Just makes it more challenging to get a rhythm for a guy which is an important part of assessing them in totality to me. 

 


   
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Hope we see something as exciting at the games this weekend.  😉

 


   
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Is the guy in the securian commercial (where they are playing pickleball and the one dude is wearing a blanket) Rusty, who used to do the Wild and Rays in arena stuff?  Sure looks like him.  


   




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Geez, the Wild are close to losing to the same score the Twins did.  🤦‍♀️


   
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Geez, the Wild are close to losing to the same score the Twins did.  🤦‍♀️

Wild are down 6-2 but dammit Harman got his 20th so the celebration is on in the Wild TV booth.

Parents of ugly kids are more objective than the Wild announcers.  

 

Wild down 7-2 - I underestimated their ineptitude.   


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At least Khusnutdinov scored?


   
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At least Khusnutdinov scored?

I have been picking him to score first since he joined. Finally got it. Lol

 


   
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if I'm the Wild brain thrust 🤣 I would think long and hard about calling the red-headed kid coach in Denver.  The dude has some serious mojo.  I have no idea if his style and personality translates well to the pro game but to this knucklehead it sure seems like it would.

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if I'm the Wild brain thrust 🤣 I would think long and hard about calling the red-headed kid coach in Denver.  The dude has some serious mojo.  I have no idea if his style and personality translates well to the pro game but to this knucklehead it sure seems like it would.

Going to be difficult to change coaches when Hynes was signed to a "multi-year" contract.  Unless Leipold has the stomach for even more buyouts.  

 


   
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Kaprizov with a beautiful hip-check on Fiala!  And then the fan outrage yelling "ref you suck" is all you really need to know about the typical hockey fan in LA.  Haha.


   




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Kaprizov with a beautiful hip-check on Fiala!  And then the fan outrage yelling "ref you suck" is all you really need to know about the typical hockey fan in LA.  Haha.

Then he goes 8 puck, corner pocket!

 

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I’ve missed Cam Talbot. 😂 


   
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Grab the popcorn. Can't wait for some of the GPLers reaction to this news...

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1780619349323088308

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I’ll start… doesn’t make much sense to me at all. Gus getting traded?


   
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I’ll start… doesn’t make much sense to me at all. Gus getting traded?

Clearly Bill Guerin has a crush on Fluery, which honestly is fine for me so long as you don't see a full time high end goalie in your system.  He is by all accounts hugely liked in the locker room and is fine at goaltending.

 

Next year is another year of cap hell.  Go suck it up.  Let young kids grow.  Get some nice draft picks (maybe a lottery pick)?  And come back firing bullets when your cap returned to normal.

 

Then maybe even play the Tampa/Vegas injury game to increase even more cap space and win a cup.  Simple math.  😉 

 


   
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$1M too much, but it's not like that really matters when you're already throwing $15M away elsewhere. At least it's only 1 year. 

As long as Fleury is willing to spend some time in the press box, and knows that he isn't going to play more than a handful of games,  then it's a good signing.  If he/Guerin actually plan on him playing? Then it's a terrible idea.


   
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Frankly I'm hoping we trade Gus and Jesper gets a fair shot. I think Russo said on a podcast that the coaching staff is less than thrilled with Gus's habits, and he was worse than Fleury this year. Granted, together they both were the biggest problem on the roster.

At least Fleury is a good pro and a good influence in practice and in the room. I'd rather have Jesper around that. Gus has had chances to be "the guy" in his career and he just never seizes it. Last year he always played better after Fleury got a start or 2. I don't know what it is but whenever he starts as the #1 for longer stretches, he falls apart.

I'm under no delusion that Fleury is carrying us on a playoff run or anything next year. The future lies with the Swedish Wall.


   




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Frankly I'm hoping we trade Gus and Jesper gets a fair shot. I think Russo said on a podcast that the coaching staff is less than thrilled with Gus's habits, and he was worse than Fleury this year. Granted, together they both were the biggest problem on the roster.

At least Fleury is a good pro and a good influence in practice and in the room. I'd rather have Jesper around that. Gus has had chances to be "the guy" in his career and he just never seizes it. Last year he always played better after Fleury got a start or 2. I don't know what it is but whenever he starts as the #1 for longer stretches, he falls apart.

I'm under no delusion that Fleury is carrying us on a playoff run or anything next year. The future lies with the Swedish Wall.

As bad as Gus was this year, he's still much better than Fleury. I wouldn't care much if they trade Gustavsson this summer, but if they do, then they need to replace him with someone better than Fleury. You can't go into next season needing Wallstedt to be your #1. You need to have the players in place to allow his progression to happen without needing to force him into any situation.

 


   
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