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Honestly, I think it surpasses it. Vikes have moved on, Mets haven't.

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Bertogliat wrote:

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Padres sign Fernando Tatis to a 14-year deal. To put that in perspective, by the time his contract ends, there will only be one year left on Bobby Bonilla's contract with the Mets.

I thought you were kidding. I looked it up and you're not. Holy crap. Bonilla hasn't played since 2001 and will get paid $1.19M every July 1st until 2035.

All this to avoid paying him $5.9M in 2001. :crazy:

As Steve said, Bobby Bonilla Day is a thing.

I am admittedly not up to date on memes. I likely have seen Bonilla related memes and moved along because I wasn’t aware of the contract.

It approaches the Hershel Walker trade for stupidity.

It was a whole mess of things that led up to the decision. They wanted to buy Bonilla out but wanted to keep the money to use it to try to keep contending at the time (they ended up using the money to sign Mike Hampton who won NLCS MVP for them the following season). So Bonilla and his agent met with Mets ownership to discuss a buyout. They agreed to a 10-year deferment on the 5.9 million owed, then paid at 8% interest over the following 25 years.

Bonilla was smart enough to say "hell yes" to that deal.

The Mets thought it was free money, as their ownership group had invested tons of money with Bernie Madoff and were promised big returns on that money. Obviously that did not come to fruition.

FWIW, lots of other athletes have taken deferred payments. Manny Ramirez is owed something like 15-20 million still by the Red Sox. Supposedly a lot of teams try to get players to take deferred money. Many of them say no. They'd rather have the money up front and invest it (or do other things with it) instead for higher return on investment.


   
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The Rube wrote:

Honestly, I think it surpasses it. Vikes have moved on, Mets haven't.

It's not like 1.2 million a year is crippling them. They got a trip to the World Series on the back of a pitcher they signed with money they didn't pay Bonilla.


   
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Beauner wrote:

The Rube wrote:

Honestly, I think it surpasses it. Vikes have moved on, Mets haven't.

It's not like 1.2 million a year is crippling them. They got a trip to the World Series on the back of a pitcher they signed with money they didn't pay Bonilla.

Exactly. Dallas turned the 6 draft picks from the Vikings into Emmitt Smith (HOF), Russell Maryland (10 yr career), Kevin Smith (9 year career) and Darren Woodson (potential HOF) and won 3 Super Bowls in 4 years.

The Vikings were a good team back then and were looking at Hershel to get them over the hump. Instead they got mediocrity and missed out on some important draft picks. Imagine drafting Emmitt Smith instead of trading for Hershel Walker.....Dang.

Only the New Orleans trade to move up for Ricky Williams was worse IMO.


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

The Rube wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

Maize wrote:

Padres sign Fernando Tatis to a 14-year deal. To put that in perspective, by the time his contract ends, there will only be one year left on Bobby Bonilla's contract with the Mets.

I thought you were kidding. I looked it up and you're not. Holy crap. Bonilla hasn't played since 2001 and will get paid $1.19M every July 1st until 2035.

All this to avoid paying him $5.9M in 2001. :crazy:

As Steve said, Bobby Bonilla Day is a thing.

I am admittedly not up to date on memes. I likely have seen Bonilla related memes and moved along because I wasn’t aware of the contract.

It approaches the Hershel Walker trade for stupidity.

Speaking of Tatis and dumb trades, go check out what the White Sox got for him. LoL


   
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Karlsson wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

The Rube wrote:

Bertogliat wrote:

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Padres sign Fernando Tatis to a 14-year deal. To put that in perspective, by the time his contract ends, there will only be one year left on Bobby Bonilla's contract with the Mets.

I thought you were kidding. I looked it up and you're not. Holy crap. Bonilla hasn't played since 2001 and will get paid $1.19M every July 1st until 2035.

All this to avoid paying him $5.9M in 2001. :crazy:

As Steve said, Bobby Bonilla Day is a thing.

I am admittedly not up to date on memes. I likely have seen Bonilla related memes and moved along because I wasn’t aware of the contract.

It approaches the Hershel Walker trade for stupidity.

Speaking of Tatis and dumb trades, go check out what the White Sox got for him. LoL

I broken down that trade earlier this summer (i think I shared it here too). Mind blowing.


   
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Ooof. That is bad.


   
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Yankee’s manager to have surgery to get pacemaker

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30997459/new-york-yankees-manager-aaron-boone-having-surgery-get-pacemaker

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[media] https://twitter.com/StribSports/status/1375221049562914816 [/media]

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Shock

[media] https://twitter.com/timbhealey/status/1377459985068781569 [/media]

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Slide, Miggy, slide!

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MLB to move All Star game out of Atlanta.


   
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Hobey Baker wrote:

MLB to move All Star game out of Atlanta.

:popcorn:


   
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I made some banana pancakes for breakfast today. So good.


   
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Bertogliat wrote:

I made some banana pancakes for breakfast today. So good.

Dude! Breaking from the banana theme but just I made some deviled eggs with sriracha and pickle juice (amongst other things) in the yolk...phenomenal.


   
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Interesting topic/discussion in these two tweets about the state of the game with regards to strikeouts etc.

https://twitter.com/HagemanParker/status/1379439644685795328?s=19


   
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Beauner wrote:

Interesting topic/discussion in these two tweets about the state of the game with regards to strikeouts etc.

https://twitter.com/HagemanParker/status/1379439644685795328?s=19br >

I wouldn't have been able to cite the statistics, but as a lifetime fan of major league baseball I know that mid 90s fastballs were a rarity in the game - which made pitchers at the time like Gibson, Gossage, Ryan et. al. so unique. Now those same pitchers are the guys who tickle 100 mph. (Ryan was a freak even by today's standards.)

There may be a time in that it's necessary to move the mound back 6" or lower it slightly, which is probably more likely.


   
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I'm no expert but per that tweet the average ERA has more or less gone up every year since 2014.


   
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It has.

That likely has to do with the increased power of pitchers and offenses focus on OPS. The BABIP has largely been static (between .291 and .297) since 2010. But with power numbers going up (both hitting and pitching), the balls in play are more frequently going for extra bases or over the fence. The HR/Fly ball percentage has gone up year over year since 2015 as pitch velo has jumped up and guys are focusing more on hitting it hard rather than making contact (ground ball percentage is down, too).


   
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For those of you who have watched the documentary "Fastball," people at MIT used stats and fastball tests from the past, which all used different points of measurement during the pitch (depending on the era), matched them up to get a consistent reading and measurement of speed (as in, who threw the fastest fastball of all time).

It was Nolan Ryan, at 108mph, and IIRC the documentary said he hit that in the 8th or 9th inning of a game. Shock

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Padres get their first no-hitter in franchise history. Yeah.

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The Rube wrote:

Padres get their first no-hitter in franchise history. Yeah.

And not from the guy you’d expect in that rotation


   
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[media] https://twitter.com/i/status/1381784937712529409 [/media]

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The Rube wrote:

This made me laugh

https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1381787479104229376?s=19


   
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Apparently a very special performance happening tonight in MLB.

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No-No for the White Sox. Congrats!

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The Rube wrote:

Apparently a very special performance happening tonight in MLB.

Was this right before he hit a guy in the foot?


   
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Bonin21 wrote:

The Rube wrote:

Apparently a very special performance happening tonight in MLB.

Was this right before he hit a guy in the foot?

Yes. Saw the Tweeter Machine acting up. A very special performance was reduced to a special performance.

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The Indians offense is mostly bad and Rodon was very very good tonight.


   
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[media] https://twitter.com/i/status/1383277577003962388 [/media]

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Willians Astudillo blowing up the radar gun in his inning... on the too-slow end, not the too-fast end:

51.4

59.0

46.0

pitch too slow for Statcast

72.5

pitch too slow for Statcast

46.3

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As a fan of baseball, it has been great to see Shohei Ohtani actually get to hit AND pitch this season. This kid is special.

These pitches are disgusting.

https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1384688022898229251?s=19


   
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The AL West standings currently spell "As(s)hat." :D

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Wild up 3-0 after one.


   
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Wild up 3-0 after one.

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D2D wrote:

Wild up 3-0 after one.

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Oops I blame it on the Got Beer? thread. LoL


   
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Beauner wrote:

As a fan of baseball, it has been great to see Shohei Ohtani actually get to hit AND pitch this season. This kid is special.

These pitches are disgusting.

https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1384688022898229251?s=19br >

I think a good split finger is the hardest pitch to hit (okay, maybe the knuckle ball). A hitter who's loaded up on a 95+ fast ball has zero chance to hit a pitch that disappears at the plate. The only thing that makes the pitch tricky is keeping it from getting away from the catcher.

A close second to the split finger is a slider that breaks late off the plate. For the best pitchers, it's almost unhittable.


   
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Beauner wrote:
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1385808998994165762?s=19br >

Um, yeah, sit down. :D


   
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Saw something on Twitter today. Last time a player who leads the league in home runs started a game as a pitcher was Babe Ruth in June of 1921 (almost exactly 100 years ago).

Shohei Ohtani is tied for the lead in home runs (7) and is starting pitcher today for the Angels.


   
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Beauner wrote:

Saw something on Twitter today. Last time a player who leads the league in home runs started a game as a pitcher was Babe Ruth in June of 1921 (almost exactly 100 years ago).

Shohei Ohtani is tied for the lead in home runs (7) and is starting pitcher today for the Angels.

That's pretty amazing.


   
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If tied for the lead counts, the pitcher that starts the first game of the season does the same thing I suppose


   
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Beauner wrote:
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1385808998994165762?s=19br >

These things he shares with the stop motion do an amazing job of how well some of these guys tunnel their pitches. It's half to 2/3rds of the way home and you don't know if it's going to paint the outside corner or be up in your ear.


   
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davescharf wrote:

Beauner wrote:
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1385808998994165762?s=19br >

These things he shares with the stop motion do an amazing job of how well some of these guys tunnel their pitches. It's half to 2/3rds of the way home and you don't know if it's going to paint the outside corner or be up in your ear.

It's really really incredible.

And goes to show why strikeouts are way up over the last few years.


   
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31346012/hr-derby-replace-extras-pioneer-league

Next up, they'll go XFL style and allow a designated runner for DHs, and he's allowed to get a running start towards first to increase scoring.


   
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Bertogliat wrote:
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1387494572675186690?s=21br >

I thought runners had to stay in the lane? He wasn’t even close. What’s the issue?


   
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Theoretically speaking, in that case, the rulebook could be argued to back him up for interference.

But in reality? That is an absolutely atrocious call and one that no umpire, regardless of level, should ever have made.


   
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