Plante got the invite over Clark?
Clark got to play some USNTDP games at the end of the year -- I don't have any steam on it, but you'd think he'd have a spot waiting if he wanted one.
Can you share where you are reading the news about Plante's invite? I'm not finding that info anywhere. I'm also now wondering how many times it has happened where someone joins the U18 team after not even receiving an invite to the U17 evaluation camp with their birth year.
Happened with 03 Andre Gasseau and 02 Zakary Karpa, plus 00 Jon Mor. Seems like an annual thing they're doing at this point.
NTDP evaluation camp roster: https://www.usahockeyntdp.com/news_article/show/1160303
Select 17s moving on to national camp: https://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/show/797839-boys-hp-17-national-camp
Select 16s moving on to national camp: https://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/show/797923-boys-hp-16-national-camp
Comments on Moore and Whitelaw.
https://twitter.com/_neutral_zone/status/1391882971032981510?s=21
YHH article with a little info on each of the 11 players with Minnesota ties at the NTDP tryouts.
https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1395771392797327363?s=21
I think we have a solid chance at landing at least a couple of the MN forwards.
I think we have a solid chance at landing at least a couple of the MN forwards.
I’m always a sucker with a “road less traveled” story for a player to be noticed. I think it will be interesting to follow the development of goalie Carsen Musser from Sherburn. Played at Fairmont high school and then headed to Detroit to play midget hockey. Stumbled across this ARTICLE with a lot of information on the kid.
I think we have a solid chance at landing at least a couple of the MN forwards.
I’m always a sucker with a “road less traveled” story for a player to be noticed. I think it will be interesting to follow the development of goalie Carsen Musser from Sherburn. Played at Fairmont high school and then headed to Detroit to play midget hockey. Stumbled across this ARTICLE with a lot of information on the kid.
Should be noted this is the first time the NTDP has brought in three goalies, or at least the first since I started following them.
For lack of a better thread, the YHH did some research on select birth years with respect to playing/not playing for the NTDP. Nothing earth shattering came of it but here you go: <a href=" https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/116377 2" class="bbcode_url"> https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/1163772
Among a few other items:
The following are a few numbers of note detailing data found from the 1995 to 2002 classes of Top MN players that played/did not play for the NTDP.
TOTAL # MN Invited - 66
AVG # MN Players Invited Per Year - 8.25
TOTAL # MN not Invited (Drafted/UFA) - 59
MN NTDP Players World Juniors U20 - 18
MN Non-NTDP Players World Juniors U20 - 12
I believe Grant Potulny’s son was drafted by Fargo in the USHL Draft last night. Jackson Potulny.
I believe Grant Potulny’s son was drafted by Fargo in the USHL Draft last night. Jackson Potulny.
Must be, ninth grader this past season at Marquette high school.
https://www.mihshockeyhub.com/roster_players/42789758?subseason=712331
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I'm 50% factual and 50% sarcastic. When you get to know me, you will know which is which.
If you want a little more info on these players…..
August 1st approaching. Think we see a handful of commits? Who are top targets? I would like to see Oliver Moore, Sam Rinzel, Jimmy Clark.
Clark is the big one imo. In the unlikely chance that the bulldogs don’t get Plante, that would be huge.
My wild, uninformed guess would be Clark is the next commit. Seems defenseman for next year also on the radar.
Let’s get Clark and steal Shaugabay from hawk country.
Whitelaw seems like he’ll pick Wisconsin.
Rinzel and Moore would be top of my wish list. Well Zam Plante would be #1 if it was at all realistic.
Let the games begin…
Zam to UMD as expected.
This leaves Clark and Rinzel. Possibly whitelaw and moore as well. I’m confident we’ll get 2-3 out of those 4.
Inside knowledge or just confidence in Bob’s recruiting?
These are two forwards I’m keeping an eye on too.
Landen Gunderson - MG
Sam Ranallo - Rogers
Confidence no inside knowledge. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Bobby Brink is going to transfer here though :ahhh: 
Let’s get Clark and steal Shaugabay from hawk country.
Looks like someone else stole him
Let’s get Clark and steal Shaugabay from hawk country.
Looks like someone else stole him
It would be nice for you to provide the information rather than just throw the statement out for everyone to guess and research independently.
Jayson Shaugabay to UMD
It was posted (Shaugabay commitment) on the opponent recruiting thread around 9am this morning. Figured that was sufficient…since it was somewhat surprising…left it at that. I’m sure some folks on SS are a bit surprised…
I’m surprised the likes of Clark and Whitelaw are taking this long to commit. I’m all about taking your time and talking it through with parents and whatnot, I think it’s the most prudent way to go about it, I’m just genuinely surprised. I figured Clark, Rinzel, Moore and Whitelaw would be off the table after August 1st or 2nd.
I wonder if some are holding off out of respect for Motzko as he grieves a tragedy. No need to rush things at this time.
That was my assumption as well. If they were considering the gophers at all, I can see them being respectful and waiting a bit longer for their conversation with tBob as he handles an unbelievably tough situation.
I’d take it as a good sign that we are in the running for a least a few of the players mentioned.
That was my assumption as well. If they were considering the gophers at all, I can see them being respectful and waiting a bit longer for their conversation with tBob as he handles an unbelievably tough situation.
I’d take it as a good sign that we are in the running for a least a few of the players mentioned.
That's probably true, but it would be tough to decide how long to wait to resume.
Im sure the coaches have a very good idea of who is committing, maybe they just are holding off on announcement.
Last year was very different because some kids had committed prior to change. Who was our first commit last year? Brody Lamb in October?
Im sure the coaches have a very good idea of who is committing, maybe they just are holding off on announcement.
Last year was very different because some kids had committed prior to change. Who was our first commit last year? Brody Lamb in October?
The tragic circumstances relating to the car accident…has obviously pushed back any commitment announcements for the time being (which is very understandable). Offers have likely been made…but we probably won’t hear much on this front until early September. Just a horrible situation for the families of the two deceased young men…
Sam Rinzel to the U, per his Twitter
Sam Rinzel to the U, per his Twitter
What do we know about him?
Sam Rinzel to the U, per his Twitter
What do we know about him?
Big defenseman out of Chaska, looked solid recently at the Hlinka, good development trajectory
<a href=" https://twitter.com/mnhshockeytalk/status/1427332390431727632?s=2 1" class="bbcode_url"> https://twitter.com/mnhshockeytalk/status/1427332390431727632?s=21
Whitelaw apparently down to Bucky and BU
I am not a follower of high school players. But it seems like the Gophers have missed out on most of the big names listed as potential early commits.
That's not a good sign.
I’m not worried about that. Whitelaw always seemed like a Wisconsin player, he’s good but there are plenty of other top kids. Motzko and staff also very good at finding less heralded players. Lacombe was not a big name before he commuted.
Oliver Moore, Jimmy Clark, and Gracyn Sawchyn all still in play. I don’t know much about Beckett Hendrickson, but he did make NTDP.
Still early in the process. Plante and Shaugabay were also long shots. Imagine the staff is also not going too heavy on young commits given their desire to mix and match with more seasoned late bloomers.
I think we have a very good shot at Moore, Clark and Hendricks which would be a very good trio if we were to get all three. Bob has not lost many recruiting battles for players he’s really wanted. Our staff is very good at selling our program to these kids.
I am not a follower of high school players. But it seems like the Gophers have missed out on most of the big names listed as potential early commits.
That's not a good sign.
Shaugabay and Whitelaw are the only two “misses”. I’m not worried at all. The guys I believe we’re likely after (Clark, Moore) are still available plus we got Rinzel. Very confident in Bob.
Also not counting Plante and Hanson as misses because, well, obvious reasons.
I’m not sure Shaugabay is a miss. He hasn’t produced as well against top competition. Sounds like effort and details in game were big factor in not making NTDP. We have seen too many guys like that in past. I think Motzko is disciplined recruiting to the identify he wants.
I agree. shaugabay may turn into a stud, but I wasn’t upset that we didn’t land him. Whitelaw is more of a “miss” at this point but like others have said, it seems like we likely never had a shot.
I’m not sure Shaugabay is a miss. He hasn’t produced as well against top competition. Sounds like effort and details in game were big factor in not making NTDP. We have seen too many guys like that in past. I think Motzko is disciplined recruiting to the identify he wants.
I agree. I just didn’t wanna play the “we didn’t want him anyway” card.
For the last decade under Lucia the Gophers got almost every early commit possible, and where did it get them?
For the last decade under Lucia the Gophers got almost every early commit possible, and where did it get them?
To be fair, for much of that time Lucia was only recruiting kids who's homes he could walk to in 15 minutes or less. Scott Bell started to change things at the end, but it was too late.
For the last decade under Lucia the Gophers got almost every early commit possible, and where did it get them?
Right with you Cardinal Country Clomp... I think the key for Motzko is clearly finding the balance between landing the fancy Cadillacs and slightly used F-150s. This year's incoming class has the fancy young 18-year-old players like Lucius, Knies and Broz. It's also got a player who has patiently developed in Pitlick and someone who has had to battle a lot of adversity to get back to playing at a high level in Huglen. Boyton is the perfect type of goalie recruit as the top uncommitted 20-year-old USHL goalie to sign midyear.
As impressive as Michigan's freshman and sophomore class is for this season, they are still going to be a roster dominated by younger players and that has rarely worked out to NCAA Titles. Now it's a lot of fun to watch, but if someone can find the last team to have a roster like that and win it all... please let me know.
I was kind of doing a brief look at the Gophers roster this year to see how their average age compares to past rosters and their defensemen are still so young compared to the rest of college hockey, but at least they're experienced. Their top D Johnson, LaCombe, Koster. Faber. Staudacher and Brinkman are still just going to be an average age of 20.5 years-old when puck drops in October. Keep in mind the oldest college hockey rosters are usually like 22-yr-olds and the youngest average are 20-yr-olds at the start of the season.
The forwards look like they going to be an average of around 21-year-olds in October -- so things are getting a little more mature there.
Exactly. Michigan is built to win hockey games but not playoff games. With that much skill though they’re obviously more than capable of making a run. It will be interstate to see…
Exactly. Michigan is built to win hockey games but not playoff games. With that much skill though they’re obviously more than capable of making a run. It will be interstate to see…
Can't wait to see if they take too many TOs in the NCAA final game which will cost them a championship.