@zwak I am surprised that the Gopher hockey team is the only non-revenue sport to make money. I would have guessed that Iowa wrestling made money - they sell out Carver Arena for ever match.
Keep in mind that while there are certain standards to the accounting for these schools and how they allocate profits and costs, there is also a wide variation of where they place certain things. At UMN, for example, gameday parking goes to the school; other schools it may go to their athletics department. I read somewhere that Georgia undertook some $30M of debt financing for athletics stuff that was put under the overall university's ledger instead of an athletics expense, but at UMN the Athletes Village expenses are strictly an athletics expense. So it can be overall hard to compare profitability from school to school when revenues and expenses are not uniformly allocated across the board.
@zwak I am surprised that the Gopher hockey team is the only non-revenue sport to make money. I would have guessed that Iowa wrestling made money - they sell out Carver Arena for ever match.
Keep in mind that while there are certain standards to the accounting for these schools and how they allocate profits and costs, there is also a wide variation of where they place certain things. At UMN, for example, gameday parking goes to the school; other schools it may go to their athletics department. I read somewhere that Georgia undertook some $30M of debt financing for athletics stuff that was put under the overall university's ledger instead of an athletics expense, but at UMN the Athletes Village expenses are strictly an athletics expense. So it can be overall hard to compare profitability from school to school when revenues and expenses are not uniformly allocated across the board.
Wisconsin does some weird accounting too. I don't doubt they lose money now, but at one time they were selling more tickets per game than the Gophers and always reporting a loss. Maybe they consolidate all of the budgets for non-revenue sports or combine men's/women's budgets or "charge" for use of Kohl Center.... who knows?
Back when USCHO was a thing people paid attention to the budget numbers would be tossed around yearly and it was always a mystery how similar teams had such different expenses. I remember the Wisconsin expenses being mysteriously high.
@zwak I am surprised that the Gopher hockey team is the only non-revenue sport to make money. I would have guessed that Iowa wrestling made money - they sell out Carver Arena for ever match.
Keep in mind that while there are certain standards to the accounting for these schools and how they allocate profits and costs, there is also a wide variation of where they place certain things. At UMN, for example, gameday parking goes to the school; other schools it may go to their athletics department. I read somewhere that Georgia undertook some $30M of debt financing for athletics stuff that was put under the overall university's ledger instead of an athletics expense, but at UMN the Athletes Village expenses are strictly an athletics expense. So it can be overall hard to compare profitability from school to school when revenues and expenses are not uniformly allocated across the board.
Wisconsin does some weird accounting too. I don't doubt they lose money now, but at one time they were selling more tickets per game than the Gophers and always reporting a loss. Maybe they consolidate all of the budgets for non-revenue sports or combine men's/women's budgets or "charge" for use of Kohl Center.... who knows?
Back when USCHO was a thing people paid attention to the budget numbers would be tossed around yearly and it was always a mystery how similar teams had such different expenses. I remember the Wisconsin expenses being mysteriously high.
I'll be interested to see what the teams do with multiple of these guys postseason. Lots of guys who need to get back up and going here in the 2nd half, both amongst our upper scorers and the secondary scoring
Rinzel with 1 point in the last 7 games
Lamb with 2 points since the holiday break and hasn't scored since Mercyhurst
Moore with 6 points in 9 games
Nice to have Clark get his first goal since Nov. Huglen has yet to score in the 2nd half.
Well next week against an Ohio State is going to be a lot more important than I would have guessed a couple of months ago
No doubt. Hopefully we pack Mariucci standing room only. Big series for Pairwise and BIG seeding. But frankly just want to see the team play with effort and consistency.
We’ve been pretty dang good at home this year (12-2-2). Gophers should be a hungry team after coming up winless in Ann Arbor. Ohio State is riding high after sweeping the two worst teams in the league, ND and Wisconsin. They’ll be coming into Mariucci with a lot of confidence, but as I said, the Gophers should be the hungrier team (you’d hope)
Gophers have officially "locked" for the post season via pairwise probability matrix. Still 56% likely for a 1 seed. This weekend was nowhere near the disaster it is being made out to be. Would have to see if they include all expected postseason results/matchups as playing ND first round and getting swept at home certainly would hit the PWR but 3-5 seed is 75% likely.
Gophers have officially "locked" for the post season via pairwise probability matrix. Still 56% likely for a 1 seed. This weekend was nowhere near the disaster it is being made out to be. Would have to see if they include all expected postseason results/matchups as playing ND first round and getting swept at home certainly would hit the PWR but 3-5 seed is 75% likely.
I'm not too worked up over the Pairwise. There will be #4 seeds that are dangerous, so getting a #2 in a regional might not make much difference.
I just want the team to shift gears and get into playoff mode. I don't think they played 6 periods of solid hockey this weekend.
Jimmy Clark had his first goal this weekend since the Alaska series the end of November. Also may need to put a missing person alert out for Brody Lamb.
Gophers have officially "locked" for the post season via pairwise probability matrix. Still 56% likely for a 1 seed. This weekend was nowhere near the disaster it is being made out to be. Would have to see if they include all expected postseason results/matchups as playing ND first round and getting swept at home certainly would hit the PWR but 3-5 seed is 75% likely.
I'm not too worked up over the Pairwise. There will be #4 seeds that are dangerous, so getting a #2 in a regional might not make much difference.
I just want the team to shift gears and get into playoff mode. I don't think they played 6 periods of solid hockey this weekend.
In a normal year, if we weren't going to be the 1, I'd say it wouldn't matter. This year there's a reasonable chance there are 3 autobids. Add that to our faceoff woes and getting last change throughout the regional and getting a 1 can be pretty important for this team. Also makes it more likely we end up in Fargo comparatively.
I share your sentiment on turning into playoff mode. I actually think that version from this team is how they would be "best" given the experience from our D core and ability to score off the rush and better in the muddy areas than we have been in the past. OSU will play that style this weekend
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Looking like we will come out of this weekend in first place but I don’t see that sticking. MSU is a lock to sweep ND next week and us sweeping PSU on the road is a big ask. This does probably lock us into seeing ND in the first round which is good cause they stink.
Looking like we will come out of this weekend in first place but I don’t see that sticking. MSU is a lock to sweep ND next week and us sweeping PSU on the road is a big ask. This does probably lock us into seeing ND in the first round which is good cause they stink.
Sparty currently trailing Penn St 3-0. If both scores hold, we'll have a 4 point lead going into next weekend, so a split in Happy Valley would give us the championship.
Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes - Harry S Truman
Looking like we will come out of this weekend in first place but I don’t see that sticking. MSU is a lock to sweep ND next week and us sweeping PSU on the road is a big ask. This does probably lock us into seeing ND in the first round which is good cause they stink.
Sparty currently trailing Penn St 3-0. If both scores hold, we'll have a 4 point lead going into next weekend, so a split in Happy Valley would give us the championship.
The Gophers have a 2 point lead going into the last weekend of the season not 4 points. If the Gophers split at Happy Valley (3 points) and Michigan State sweeps Notre Dame (6 points) Sparty wins the league by one point and gets the dreaded bye.
Looking like we will come out of this weekend in first place but I don’t see that sticking. MSU is a lock to sweep ND next week and us sweeping PSU on the road is a big ask. This does probably lock us into seeing ND in the first round which is good cause they stink.
Sparty currently trailing Penn St 3-0. If both scores hold, we'll have a 4 point lead going into next weekend, so a split in Happy Valley would give us the championship.
The Gophers have a 2 point lead going into the last weekend of the season not 4 points. If the Gophers split at Happy Valley (3 points) and Michigan State sweeps Notre Dame (6 points) Sparty wins the league by one point and gets the dreaded bye.
My bad. For some reason, I had it in my head entering tonight's game that if the Gophers won out, it didn't matter what Sparty did.
Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes - Harry S Truman
According to the site below going into the last weekend the Gophers have a 49% chance of winning the league title and Michigan State has a 51% chance of winning the league title. This is due to the Gophers having a tougher last series and Michigan State having the tiebreaker.
IMO the funniest way for it to end would be the Gophers needing two points from the last game to win the league title out right. The game ends in a tie and the Gophers finally win a shot out to get the 2nd point from the game. We hardly ever win a shoot out but when we do we make it count. 🤣
Both Friday and Saturday night the Gopher game starts later than the Michigan State game (1.5 hours on Friday and 2 hours on Saturday).
Huglen was the only freshman to make it all 4 years. Barto was also a freshman that was added mid season. Cruikshank was a transfer, so he really doesn't count.
Huglen was the only freshman to make it all 4 years. Barto was also a freshman that was added mid season. Cruikshank was a transfer, so he really doesn't count.
though he might not always show up on the scorecard, Huglen is essential to this teams success and I was really happy for him to have auch a solid final regular season series and senior night. Wore the M with pride and always a very classy guy. He’ll be missed next year, no matter how the team looks
CHN's Probability Matrix got run yesterday morning. After this weekend's games, the Gophers are now very close to locking in a 1 seed. Looks like something under a 4% chance of dropping to 5-8 overall (with 8 being the farthest they can drop, and that's listed at 0.0% so, 0.04 or lower), and even a 2% chance at the #1 overall. BC is obviously still the huge favorite for #1 overall, but for #2, it looks like 54% MSU, 36% Gophers
CHN's Probability Matrix got run yesterday morning. After this weekend's games, the Gophers are now very close to locking in a 1 seed. Looks like something under a 4% chance of dropping to 5-8 overall (with 8 being the farthest they can drop, and that's listed at 0.0% so, 0.04 or lower), and even a 2% chance at the #1 overall. BC is obviously still the huge favorite for #1 overall, but for #2, it looks like 54% MSU, 36% Gophers
yep in all likelihood the Gophers will be locked into their 1 seed this weekend. Split or better and its guaranteed.
They made up pretty substantial ground on MSU in the RPI this weekend with the sweep. If we both sweep this weekend, they won't be able to catch us in the games versus teams under comparison so all will come down to RPI and if they meet again H2H. Games this weekend will be good RPI booster for the Gophers if they win as they're road games.
For WMU, if we split this weekend it looks pretty unlikely they can catch us in the RPI given they just have UND and Miami left with UND at home and will likely get Miami again in the 1st round of the NCHC tourney.
Maine might have an outside chance to catch us if they win out and depending who they draw in the postseason games but a .01 lead in the RPI is pretty substantial at this point, especially if we can miss playing ND which would have the biggest chance to be an RPI hit.
I remember when some people were panicking in Nov-Dec about the Gophers pairwise position and our "weak" non conference schedule. I think it worked out ok.
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I remember when some people were panicking in Nov-Dec about the Gophers pairwise position and our "weak" non conference schedule. I think it worked out ok.
Honestly looking at the PWR before New Years is a waste of breathe. Its a fun discussion but it has no real basis in anything since it is still way too volatile.
I remember when some people were panicking in Nov-Dec about the Gophers pairwise position and our "weak" non conference schedule. I think it worked out ok.
Winning is the magic recipe for PWR success.
Agreed, but I will throw in one additional qualification.... "Winning, in an elite Hockey conference, is a magic recipe for PWR Success"
Mankato is stuck at 17 because in a weak conference you don't have any margin for error.
That's a fair comment, yes. The strength of your non-conference schedule itself isn't a huge factor. Your conference's success rate in non-conference games combined with your overall strength of schedule drives the math (as long as you win a lot, of course).
I remember when some people were panicking in Nov-Dec about the Gophers pairwise position and our "weak" non conference schedule. I think it worked out ok.
Winning is the magic recipe for PWR success.
Agreed, but I will throw in one additional qualification.... "Winning, in an elite Hockey conference, is a magic recipe for PWR Success"
Mankato is stuck at 17 because in a weak conference you don't have any margin for error.
In Mankato's defense, they probably thought when they scheduled UND that that would hold a bit more weight. they also have omaha and michigan on the schedule and merrimack isn't bad this year. that said, they're stuck because they went 2-1-1 against NMU, 1-1 vs Ferris State, and 1-1 vs BSU. win those 3 games and they're #11.
Had the Gophers beaten BSU, they'd be #2 right now.
Bad losses and ties drop your RPI real fast regardless of the rest of your schedule
