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Notre Dame wins...Gophers never even possessed the puck.

I have said it since day 1 3x3 overtime is a joke.

Shock of shocks Chesley was out there...


   
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Absolutely brutal reffing for a period and an overtime


   
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How many straight infractions again ND that were let go was that? Laughable.


   
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Refs put a bow on that one. Inexcusable missed calls. 


   
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Ugly OT. Refs swallowed their whistles late in the third for one reason or another. Gophers did not earn a win in any manner. On to Michigan State.


   
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Actually embarrassing from the ref crew. Like 5 straight should have been called and not a one. Fucking joke


   
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The refs stunk hard, but the Gophs lost because of their play especially their sloppy play in their own end.  If they play even half as good in the 2nd as they did in the 3rd they win the game.

Very disappointing to watch...


   
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I got the board on Koster, the roughing on Moore, the trip on Huglen, the trip on Lamb and the hold to lose the game. All 5 should be penalties. No reason none of them are


   
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I usually mock people who blame a loss on the refs. But that 3rd period and OT was ridiculous. 


   
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How about somebody wins a faceoff?


   
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Which Gopher goalie is doing a better job of losing the starting position?


   
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jfc


   
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Posted by: @mikeeruzione11

Which Gopher goalie is doing a better job of losing the starting position?

thought souliere was fine. Which of those did you feel was his fault? 

 


   
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Can't imagine being upset with Souliere tonight. He wasn't unbeatable but did his job and made some big saves late.


   
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Posted by: @upnorthkid

Posted by: @mikeeruzione11

Which Gopher goalie is doing a better job of losing the starting position?

thought souliere was fine. Which of those did you feel was his fault? 

 

He was fine in general. Just wish somebody would step up and win/steal a game for the team. 

 


   
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The goalie is nowhere near the issue.  The defensive zone play was terrible. 


   
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Were these the same refs that called the Michigan games?


   
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I can not say enough how much I despise the 3 on 3 overtime.  It’s GD boring! Go back to a real OT period, I don’t see the advantage to the current one at all.  

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Posted by: @mikeeruzione11

How about somebody wins a faceoff?

THIS! 

 

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I can not say enough how much I despise the 3 on 3 overtime.  It’s GD boring! Go back to a real OT period, I don’t see the advantage to the current one at all.  

 couldn’t agree more. Ties are fine and you don’t play 3v3 postseason. It’s our stupid obsession will feeling like there needs to be winners

 


   
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The officiating was so poor in the game I’m gonna get my own eyes checked. 

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Posted by: @greyeagle

The officiating was so poor in the game I’m gonna get my own eyes checked. 

You saw what actually happened. Your eyes are fine.

 


   
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Posted by: @kelly-red

I can not say enough how much I despise the 3 on 3 overtime.  It’s GD boring! Go back to a real OT period, I don’t see the advantage to the current one at all.  

 couldn’t agree more. Ties are fine and you don’t play 3v3 postseason. It’s our stupid obsession will feeling like there needs to be winners

 

Exactly!  I used to get a lot of push back about this cause it's "exciting".  It blows.

 


   
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The officiating was so poor in the game I’m gonna get my own eyes checked. 

Even Sheppard would have screamed at these clowns.  Mason would have high fived them!

 


   
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@upnorthkid I’ve come to the conclusion that 90% of the people on this board haven’t played competitive hockey beyond Squirt C. The constant critiques of EVERYTHING the Gophers do is beyond the pale. The Gophers played solid. Notre Dame has a lot of talent with a couple studs from the World Junior team and a great goalie in Say. Souls’ played lights out. He didn’t give up a bad goal and he made some KEY saves. The Gophs have to work on the special teams but they’re pissed off with a chip on their shoulder heading on road and that’s a good thing. 


   
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Yes, the refs were AWFUL.  Yes, the Gophers need to step up in games like this.

...But why in the world doesn't SOMEONE tell Motzko to ask for a review of the FIRST check from behind into the boards?  That was so blatant that the only answer was that nobody else on the team saw it.


   
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I usually mock people who blame a loss on the refs. But that 3rd period and OT was ridiculous. 

Agreed. To be sure, I don't think this was a great game from the Gophers. They played sloppy in their own zone, at least for the first period, and didn't display the same hustle and forecheck they had in game one. That being said, any one of the (at least) 5 missed calls in the 3rd and OT could have been a game-changing power play for Minnesota, and they were egregious penalties rather than borderline penalties that were missed. Most of the missed calls were in plain sight with a ref looking on. I'm also perplexed by the fact that there were at least 3 checking from behind missed calls in this series, one of which caused Clark to miss tonight's game, and none of them were reviewed after the play. 

 


   
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Ah I see we are at the point in the season where someone tells us only people who played at a high level can have an opinion on the team.  It came early this year usually it happens around March 🤣 

Pack it up people...no need to discuss anything anymore since none of us have experience.  Lock up the Vikings thread, the music thread, the restaurant thread...I mean since none of us did any of that at a high level we are under qualified to have an opinion!

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Posted by: @handyman

Posted by: @upnorthkid

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I can not say enough how much I despise the 3 on 3 overtime.  It’s GD boring! Go back to a real OT period, I don’t see the advantage to the current one at all.  

 couldn’t agree more. Ties are fine and you don’t play 3v3 postseason. It’s our stupid obsession will feeling like there needs to be winners

Exactly!  I used to get a lot of push back about this cause it's "exciting".  It blows.

The speed in the NHL makes it much more exciting, but tonight's OT was a perfect example of how awful it can be.  Make it a defensive zone face off if you take it out of the zone...

 


   
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Who doesn’t love watching three guys skate around in the neutral zone? 3 on 3 OT is so thrilling! 

I thought the leprechauns were just trying to dick around long enough to make it to a shootout and a guaranteed win. 😬

 

The ref needs a wife…

 


   
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Posted by: @cowgirl

Who doesn’t love watching three guys skate around in the neutral zone? 3 on 3 OT is so thrilling! 

 

 

Is my memory wrong in thinking that when 3x3 first started it was exciting?

 


   
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@handyman  Not seeing a lot of bonafide discussion but plenty of incessant whining that’s completely unwarranted. Everyone has an opinion but most don’t have a clue when it comes to playing the game vs being an arm chair critic. We need to enjoy and celebrate the Gophers instead of trashing them for some myopic minutia. Just my humble opinion 🤣 


   
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@upnorthkid I’ve come to the conclusion that 90% of the people on this board haven’t played competitive hockey beyond Squirt C. The constant critiques of EVERYTHING the Gophers do is beyond the pale. The Gophers played solid. Notre Dame has a lot of talent with a couple studs from the World Junior team and a great goalie in Say. Souls’ played lights out. He didn’t give up a bad goal and he made some KEY saves. The Gophs have to work on the special teams but they’re pissed off with a chip on their shoulder heading on road and that’s a good thing. 

eh I don’t know. The Gophs were fine tonight. Probably a B- type game from them. Souliere was fine. Think he’d say he’d like the one low glove back but there were no soft goals. I think there were many things the Gophs deserved to have critiqued tonight as the passing was sloppy and the effort up and down. They are clearly a better team than ND but anyone can beat you any night in the Big Ten. Another series win and the season series over ND. I’m not going to broken up over any game that we lose in OT or a SO because neither of those things exist in when it matters. This team needs to get healthier again and it was good to get some guys back, but you could see the rust for some of them. Clark adds a lot of speed down the lineup so losing him is not inconsequential so hopefully he’s back next weekend 

 


   
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Posted by: @sunbone

I usually mock people who blame a loss on the refs. But that 3rd period and OT was ridiculous. 

I'm also perplexed by the fact that there were at least 3 checking from behind missed calls in this series, one of which caused Clark to miss tonight's game, and none of them were reviewed after the play. 

 

Well, they reviewed the cross check to the face of Moore and didn't call it so it probably wouldn't have done any good.

 


   
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Posted by: @rowshkex

Posted by: @handyman

Posted by: @upnorthkid

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I can not say enough how much I despise the 3 on 3 overtime.  It’s GD boring! Go back to a real OT period, I don’t see the advantage to the current one at all.  

 couldn’t agree more. Ties are fine and you don’t play 3v3 postseason. It’s our stupid obsession will feeling like there needs to be winners

Exactly!  I used to get a lot of push back about this cause it's "exciting".  It blows.

The speed in the NHL makes it much more exciting, but tonight's OT was a perfect example of how awful it can be.  Make it a defensive zone face off if you take it out of the zone...

 

In the NHL they actually try to play as well.  Notre Dame was fine holding the puck the whole time cause a "tie" was a positive outcome for them.  Like back in the day when Wisconsin (and half the NHL) would constantly ice the puck to keep the score close or hold a lead.

Agreed on the some sort of face-off rule.

 


   
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Ah I see we are at the point in the season where someone tells us only people who played at a high level can have an opinion on the team.  It came early this year usually it happens around March 🤣 

Pack it up people...no need to discuss anything anymore since none of us have experience.  Lock up the Vikings thread, the music thread, the restaurant thread...I mean since none of us did any of that at a high level we are under qualified to have an opinion!

Thank you letting us know Mr. Nanny it's an honor to be in your presence!

It’s a msg. board, it comes with the territory. People try to one up someone all the time. Especially from ones with little to no participation. Or the ones with no face to their username. 

 

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@handyman  Not seeing a lot of bonafide discussion but plenty of incessant whining that’s completely unwarranted. Everyone has an opinion but most don’t have a clue when it comes to playing the game vs being an arm chair critic. We need to enjoy and celebrate the Gophers instead of trashing them for some myopic minutia. Just my humble opinion 🤣 

When players play well they get praise (we had people literally asking if this was the best Gopher Team ever in November) and when they play subpar they get criticized.  This isn't peewees it's ok to call a spade a spade.

The Gophers are clearly the better team and for about half the game they played as such.  But they made plenty of bone headed plays and the players doing it are better than that.  1 goal for sure came on lazy clearing attempts (and they almost scored a couple other times because of it) and another because a Dman made a bad decision in the neutral zone.  It happens, and I doubt it will persist but it is still worth calling out.

No one wants anyone fired or cut from the team...heck we still probably should have won the game.  We didn't because we made mistakes and shot ourselves in the foot and because Notre Dame wanted it more.  YMMV

(I'm leaving the refs out of this)

 


   
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I bet it won’t be long before a shot on goal is required before you can retreat to the neutral zone.

 


   
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Minnesota was chasing all night. Notre Dame got the first goal again, depite being outplayed to that point. The Gophers tied it up but went down a goal and then chased again. And again. After a couple of their goals they almost gave up a goal on their first shift after scoring.

Notre Dame played a much better neutral zone game tonight and again outplayed (out willed) Minnesota in the second period. I felt that if the Gophers got a lead, they would force ND out of its comfort zone. Unfortunately, they never had a chance to find out. 

That was a winnable game but it didn't work out that way. Minnesota should beat ND 3 out of four times, which is exactly the way it worked out. So...next!

Edit: worst officiated game of the season so far. Third period there were 4 or five that went uncalled and the hold in OT that allowed ND to gain possession of the puck for the gwg. 

 

 

 

 


   
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Posted by: @mikeeruzione11

How about somebody wins a faceoff?

This. There’s a reason ND felt like they had the puck all night, because they did. ND was never really threatening with the puck they just cycled and cycled and didn’t give our potent offense any extra ammo. Tip of the cap from me.

If there’s one thing that seriously concerns me with this team it’s faceoffs.

 

 


   
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Oh and the reffing at the end there… yikes


   
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Posted by: @nocoastnirvana

@upnorthkid I’ve come to the conclusion that 90% of the people on this board haven’t played competitive hockey beyond Squirt C. The constant critiques of EVERYTHING the Gophers do is beyond the pale. The Gophers played solid. Notre Dame has a lot of talent with a couple studs from the World Junior team and a great goalie in Say. Souls’ played lights out. He didn’t give up a bad goal and he made some KEY saves. The Gophs have to work on the special teams but they’re pissed off with a chip on their shoulder heading on road and that’s a good thing. 

What are you talking about? Most of the complaints were about the ref with one poster complaining about play in net.

 


   
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Posted by: @maroon_and_gold

Posted by: @mikeeruzione11

How about somebody wins a faceoff?

This. There’s a reason ND felt like they had the puck all night, because they did. ND was never really threatening with the puck they just cycled and cycled and didn’t give our potent offense any extra ammo. Tip of the cap from me.

If there’s one thing that seriously concerns me with this team it’s faceoffs.

 

 

we won the faceoffs tonight 31-30. Unsure how the hell they’re counting as sure didn’t feel that way, but just thought I’d mention it

 


   
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@upnorthkid 

it really did seem more lopsided than that but it could also be that the really critical faceoffs seem to be the ones we cannot come up with?  Several things stood out to me in the second game.  #1 the Gophers were just a bit off in the passing and could not seem to connect or if they did we were not fielding the puck cleanly.  #2. the whole game seemed a little bluh.  Started well then gave up a goal and that gave ND hope and we never really got the advantage back. #3 ND played a good game and did a nice job of clogging up the middle (no surprise). #4 I only played through high school so probably don't really understand the game Laugh  


   
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Even with the loss tonight, the Gophers remain 3rd in the Pairwise.

Definitely need to play better in the 2nd period both nights.  And the refs definitely need to start actually calling infractions.  I always hate the "refs don't want to be deciding the game" argument as a reason to not call penalties (I haven't seen that here tonight, but I do hear that at times).  No... by NOT calling infractions, you ARE deciding the game.

How these gutless wonders in stripes can look at that cross-check to the face and decide that isn't a major, I simply can't understand.  And to not review two CFB/boarding calls at all is just absurd.  Add in Moore getting tackled, then a ND player falling when he steps on Moore's stick leading to Moore getting a tripping call, but at the other end when a ND player puts their stick between Moore's skates to take him down, that ISN'T called either?  It's completely absurd how refs call these games.

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Had an event tonight so just finished watching:

1. 3x3 OT is fun but maybe college should go with 4x4?

2. F**k me that might have been the worst most obviously bad officiating I’ve ever seen! They can’t  have missed that many blatant penalties…I mean what in the actual f**k are you looking at? Super obvious penalties they chose not to call at the end of the 3rd and OT. I have a job that I am basically unfirable from and I would be if I trotted out that garbage performance. Embarrassing. 


   
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My take for what it’s worth is we looked careless with the puck in every zone.

ND did a good job keeping us on the boards and cycling with names on the back facing their goalie.

they clogged up the slot numerous times forcing everything to the edge and snuggy had the only jets to get around it and finish one.

i think ND blocked more passes and shots with their sticks tonight than I’ve probably ever seen in one game.

I waited all night for that constant energy they had last night to take over and put them in chase mode but it never happened. Some nights the wolf doesn’t always fuel the legs. It happens.

ND played with the opportunistic approach and made the most of them. 

I don’t know I left there pissed at how it ended with the 3 on 3 and frustrated with refs too but honestly win a face off then and do something about it. I think we went 7 minutes without a shot on goal in the 3rd period and even then one and done with crashing the net for a rebound came 3 seconds late.


   
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@upnorthkid Yep. That 3rd goal off the glove was definitely one Souly' would like back. The faceoffs were lost when they really counted. The power play needs some work and the refs definitely swallowed their whistles in the 3rd & OT. But, it's not like the Gophers lost to Stonehill like UMass Lowell this evening. I guess I just read all of the critiques about chit that people really don't know unless they've played at a high(er) level and it's seems a little trollish & childish. Looks like I riled up the crew so I'll go back to my man cave and work on the putting... grass has to get green(er) eventually.


   
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@handyman Well said. I was a 'couple' beers deep when I grabbed the phone and posted. I just read some of the critiques and had to laugh. And yeah, I honestly do believe this team is one of the better all-around teams we've seen from the Gophers in my lifetime. So fast. So much talent. Great chemistry off and on the ice. I honestly believe they're bringing #6 back home to Dinkytown. Guess you could call me a fanboy lol


   
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Posted by: @rowshkex

Yes, the refs were AWFUL.  Yes, the Gophers need to step up in games like this.

...But why in the world doesn't SOMEONE tell Motzko to ask for a review of the FIRST check from behind into the boards?  That was so blatant that the only answer was that nobody else on the team saw it.

IIRC, Bob used his review for the Nelson shot to the head and lost that challenge so he was out of challenges.  

 

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