This song is a banger:
The complexities and transitions in this song are ridiculous, topped off by McCartney's underrated bass. Listen to this the whole way through with headphones and tell me you're not impressed.
This song is a banger:
The complexities and transitions in this song are ridiculous, topped off by McCartney's underrated bass. Listen to this the whole way through with headphones and tell me you're not impressed.
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Decent REO song. Kevin Cronin took them too far in the power ballad direction for my tastes. Here's two earlier songs with their original singer Terry Luttrell and their third singer Mike Murphy. Kick ass rock band in the early 70's. Gary Richrath was a killer. Saw them open for Edgar Winter Group at the Civic Center in the fall of '73 and for Johnny Winter at the Civic Center Auditorium in December of '73. :dup:
From REO Speedwagon's debut album:
I'm well aware of their history, but that song popped up at random today and I just fucking like it. Do you always feel the need 'correct' someone else's musical share?
I really like the debut from Montrose. Sammy Hagar and Ronnie killed on that album.
I'm well aware of their history, but that song popped up at random today and I just f*** like it. Do you always feel the need 'correct' someone else's musical share?
Relax. I just expressed an opinion (albeit a mild one) regarding the REO song you posted. Big deal. I didn't say anything about you. I added a couple great songs from much earlier points in REO Speedwagons history. One of which was from their debut album. Which has been a recent topic of conversation here. How is that 'correcting' your musical share? I saw them live back then. I liked them better when they rocked harder.
You think it's a "Banger" and I think it's a decent song. A slight difference of opinion. This is a discussion forum after all. Why get your knickers in a twist over that?
I found myself looking into the mirror on this tweet. So truth.
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When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
I'm well aware of their history, but that song popped up at random today and I just f*** like it. Do you always feel the need 'correct' someone else's musical share?
Relax. I just expressed an opinion (albeit a mild one) regarding the REO song you posted. Big deal. I didn't say anything about you. I added a couple great songs from much earlier points in REO Speedwagons history. One of which was from their debut album. Which has been a recent topic of conversation here. How is that 'correcting' your musical share? I saw them live back then. I liked them better when they rocked harder.
You think it's a "Banger" and I think it's a decent song. A slight difference of opinion. This is a discussion forum after all. Why get your knickers in a twist over that?
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You for some reason mentioned ballads even though I didn't post one and then had to add why they were better at another time even though I wasn't making any statement. If you had simply wrote, "Here's some other great REO songs..." I wouldn't have blinked even though I already knew them.
This song as well as the whole album is why I still have faith in the future of music:
I'm well aware of their history, but that song popped up at random today and I just f*** like it. Do you always feel the need 'correct' someone else's musical share?
Relax. I just expressed an opinion (albeit a mild one) regarding the REO song you posted. Big deal. I didn't say anything about you. I added a couple great songs from much earlier points in REO Speedwagons history. One of which was from their debut album. Which has been a recent topic of conversation here. How is that 'correcting' your musical share? I saw them live back then. I liked them better when they rocked harder.
You think it's a "Banger" and I think it's a decent song. A slight difference of opinion. This is a discussion forum after all. Why get your knickers in a twist over that?
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You for some reason mentioned ballads even though I didn't post one and then had to add why they were better at another time even though I wasn't making any statement. If you had simply wrote, "Here's some other great REO songs..." I wouldn't have blinked even though I already knew them.
You need to work on your reading comprehension. My original comment on the song you posted was "Decent REO song." That's it. I then opined that "Kevin Cronin took them too far in the power ballad direction for my tastes." I stated my opinion on the general direction of the band, I did not refer to the song you posted as a "ballad" either. It's much more in tune with the direction Cronin took the band than where the band came from. Gary Richrath lost out. You referred to the song as "Banger" which is pretty funny. I guess we have very different opinions on what kind of song is a "Banger."
REO became quite successful emphasizing the power ballad route, but it's just not my cup of tea. I posted the other videos for entertainment value and as contrasts to what you posted. The way I see it is if you post something you are inviting a conversation. If you call a song like that "A Banger" you could expect some differing opinions. Why not support your statement instead of whining and mischaracterizing what I said?
Old school REO:
I was just reading on the Star Tribune variety section the Suburbs are having a show July 2nd at The 7th Street Entry, why not the main room?
Aloha!
I was just reading on the Star Tribune variety section the Suburbs are having a show July 2nd at The 7th Street Entry, why not the main room?
Old time's sake?
Bands that got better after a departure:
-Beatles - no one misses Pete Best nor Stuart Sutcliffe
-Pink Floyd. This one is hard because they were freaking brilliant with Syd Barrett but it's hard to imagine they could have been any better after Gilmour was added
-Rolling Stones - see above. They were so good with Brian Jones but they had a tremendous output after his passing
-Fleetwood Mac
-Iron Maiden
-RHCP - another dicey one. I think the loss or Irons was fine, but how good might they have been had Hillel Slovak not died? Still John Frusciante was brilliant
-Nirvana - 4 or 5 drummers before Grohl joined
-Metallica - another dicey one. Absolutely better without Mustaine but who knows how good they could have been with Cliff?
-AC/DC? This is a hard one too
Got worse:
-Chicago
-Genesis
-Van Halen
-Black Sabbath
Alice In Chains in the got worse category, not that they suck now, but they weren’t going to be better without Staley.
Alice In Chains in the got worse category, not that they suck now, but they weren’t going to be better without Staley.
Completely agree and I didn't even consider them.
Bands that got better after a departure:
-Beatles - no one misses Pete Best nor Stuart Sutcliffe
-Pink Floyd. This one is hard because they were freaking brilliant with Syd Barrett but it's hard to imagine they could have been any better after Gilmour was added
-Rolling Stones - see above. They were so good with Brian Jones but they had a tremendous output after his passing
-Fleetwood Mac
-Iron Maiden
-RHCP - another dicey one. I think the loss or Irons was fine, but how good might they have been had Hillel Slovak not died? Still John Frusciante was brilliant
-Nirvana - 4 or 5 drummers before Grohl joined
-Metallica - another dicey one. Absolutely better without Mustaine but who knows how good they could have been with Cliff?
-AC/DC? This is a hard one too
Got worse:
-Chicago
-Genesis
-Van Halen
-Black Sabbath
Floyd: would have been a different band, for sure.
Metallica: Newsted rocked the bass, but Burton was a bit better. I think they would have remained the same.
AC/DC: Same voice (for the most part), but the songwriting faltered a bit overall, for whatever reason, after Back In Black.
Van Halen: I think both versions are great (THERE WAS NO THIRD VERSION). It was party rock vs somewhat intellectual rock. I prefer Van Hagar. Prefer. Key word.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Metallica didn't improve without Dave Mustaine. I can't see another member of Metallica selling 15-20 million records after leaving... For my pick though, Brian Johnson taking over AC/DC. I'm a Bon Scott guy, but jeezus, they shot to the moon.
Metallica didn't improve without Dave Mustaine. I can't see another member of Metallica selling 15-20 million records after leaving... For my pick though, Brian Johnson taking over AC/DC. I'm a Bon Scott guy, but jeezus, they shot to the moon.
Metallica didn't lose out, though. I don't think they would've hit it as big with Mustaine. I think Megadeth had a different direction than Metallica. It worked out for both.
As for AC/DC, I think Scott had better songs to work with, but Johnson had the MTV era/radio acceptance to work with.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Metallica didn't improve without Dave Mustaine. I can't see another member of Metallica selling 15-20 million records after leaving... For my pick though, Brian Johnson taking over AC/DC. I'm a Bon Scott guy, but jeezus, they shot to the moon.
Metallica didn't lose out, though. I don't think they would've hit it as big with Mustaine. I think Megadeth had a different direction than Metallica. It worked out for both.
As for AC/DC, I think Scott had better songs to work with, but Johnson had the MTV era/radio acceptance to work with.
Cliff Burton is the better choice with Metallica. Mustaine wrote a lot of melodies and riffs, but wasn't on a actual release.
Back in Black came out a full year before MTV and it was big out of the gate. I see what you mean, but the direction without Scott was much like the direction Metallica took after Burton was gone. There wasn't that guy getting in the way of the full push for massive appeal. AC/DC was three brothers (one being the manager and big brother), so they got there quicker than Metallica, who had transitional album before they punched the ticket to mass appeal.
Metallica didn't improve without Dave Mustaine. I can't see another member of Metallica selling 15-20 million records after leaving... For my pick though, Brian Johnson taking over AC/DC. I'm a Bon Scott guy, but jeezus, they shot to the moon.
Metallica didn't lose out, though. I don't think they would've hit it as big with Mustaine. I think Megadeth had a different direction than Metallica. It worked out for both.
As for AC/DC, I think Scott had better songs to work with, but Johnson had the MTV era/radio acceptance to work with.
Cliff Burton is the better choice with Metallica. Mustaine wrote a lot of melodies and riffs, but wasn't on a actual release.
Back in Black came out a full year before MTV and it was big out of the gate. I see what you mean, but the direction without Scott was much like the direction Metallica took after Burton was gone. There wasn't that guy getting in the way of the full push for massive appeal. AC/DC was three brothers (one being the manager and big brother), so they got there quicker than Metallica, who had transitional album before they punched the ticket to mass appeal.
Bolded/etc is incorrect. I used to have the LP:
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Metallica didn't improve without Dave Mustaine. I can't see another member of Metallica selling 15-20 million records after leaving... For my pick though, Brian Johnson taking over AC/DC. I'm a Bon Scott guy, but jeezus, they shot to the moon.
Metallica didn't lose out, though. I don't think they would've hit it as big with Mustaine. I think Megadeth had a different direction than Metallica. It worked out for both.
As for AC/DC, I think Scott had better songs to work with, but Johnson had the MTV era/radio acceptance to work with.
Cliff Burton is the better choice with Metallica. Mustaine wrote a lot of melodies and riffs, but wasn't on a actual release.
Back in Black came out a full year before MTV and it was big out of the gate. I see what you mean, but the direction without Scott was much like the direction Metallica took after Burton was gone. There wasn't that guy getting in the way of the full push for massive appeal. AC/DC was three brothers (one being the manager and big brother), so they got there quicker than Metallica, who had transitional album before they punched the ticket to mass appeal.
Bolded/etc is incorrect. I used to have the LP:
My reason was the excuse Lars used when Mustaine wasn't elected with the band into the RRHOF. That EP was not ever released by Elektra or by the band when they gained control of their back catalog. I would dispute that was an " official " release.
I would accept your reasoning. It is a conundrum. 
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Roger Hawkins - Muscle Shoals Swamper :rim: - RIP
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Bands that got better after a departure:
-Beatles - no one misses Pete Best nor Stuart Sutcliffe
-Pink Floyd. This one is hard because they were freaking brilliant with Syd Barrett but it's hard to imagine they could have been any better after Gilmour was added
-Rolling Stones - see above. They were so good with Brian Jones but they had a tremendous output after his passing
-Fleetwood Mac
-Iron Maiden
-RHCP - another dicey one. I think the loss or Irons was fine, but how good might they have been had Hillel Slovak not died? Still John Frusciante was brilliant
-Nirvana - 4 or 5 drummers before Grohl joined
-Metallica - another dicey one. Absolutely better without Mustaine but who knows how good they could have been with Cliff?
-AC/DC? This is a hard one too
Got worse:
-Chicago
-Genesis
-Van Halen
-Black Sabbath
Floyd: would have been a different band, for sure.
Metallica: Newsted rocked the bass, but Burton was a bit better. I think they would have remained the same.
AC/DC: Same voice (for the most part), but the songwriting faltered a bit overall, for whatever reason, after Back In Black.
Van Halen: I think both versions are great (THERE WAS NO THIRD VERSION). It was party rock vs somewhat intellectual rock. I prefer Van Hagar. Prefer. Key word.
I agree about Van Halen. I really like version 1 & 2.
I think what makes it tough about bands getting better or worse is when you first experienced them. For example. My first exposure to AC/DC was Back in Black(even though I was in high school) so I think of them more of a Brian Johnson band than Bon Scott as I never really experienced the Scott Era. Plus there are bands that have a key departure but then just tour with a new lead singer and possibly release new albums (Journey, Styx, INXS just to name a few).
Bands that got better after a departure:
-Beatles - no one misses Pete Best nor Stuart Sutcliffe
-Pink Floyd. This one is hard because they were freaking brilliant with Syd Barrett but it's hard to imagine they could have been any better after Gilmour was added
-Rolling Stones - see above. They were so good with Brian Jones but they had a tremendous output after his passing
-Fleetwood Mac
-Iron Maiden
-RHCP - another dicey one. I think the loss or Irons was fine, but how good might they have been had Hillel Slovak not died? Still John Frusciante was brilliant
-Nirvana - 4 or 5 drummers before Grohl joined
-Metallica - another dicey one. Absolutely better without Mustaine but who knows how good they could have been with Cliff?
-AC/DC? This is a hard one too
Got worse:
-Chicago
-Genesis
-Van Halen
-Black Sabbath
Death, voluntary departures or replacement of a member or members all have very different dynamics. Considering those factors in the equation might make for a more meaningful or interesting discussion.
The Stones for example. Brian Jones was on his way out at the time he died. He was a big part of the early image and music of The Stones and founded the band. He was a key figure in their early success, the real leader and coolest member of the band. The vast majority of their biggest hit singles were during his tenure in the band. 1964-1969
Following Jones was Mick Taylor. An inspired choice as a replacement on lead guitar. Hard to argue with Let it Bleed, Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out, Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street. All classic albums. Some of the best albums ever. Image wise, not really an improvement, but Mick's guitar playing and what it brought to the table took the Stones to another level. The Stones got better.
Once Mick Taylor left the band I think the Stones definitely got worse. Much worse. Ron Wood was a workman like replacement but certainly not the lead guitarist The Stones needed. Stones went downhill after adding Ron Wood. Their musical output with Wood has spanned a lot of time but is the least memorable of all The Stones material.
For my money the run of Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, & Exile On Main Street is virtually unparalleled and even more amazing is the bookends to these are Beggars Banquet and Goats Head Soup. Not a bad six years, eh?
“When your best friend is the son of God, you get tired of losing every argument.”
― Christopher Moore, Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal
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For my money the run of Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, & Exile On Main Street is virtually unparalleled and even more amazing is the bookends to these are Beggars Banquet and Goats Head Soup. Not a bad six years, eh?
Yes that period between 1967- 1973 was an incredible period of musical output. Those Stones albums are all some of my all time favorites. It was a great time to be alive. They all sound just as good today as the day they were released.
I would make one addition to what you said however. I absolutely agree with you those Stones albums lined up back to back were an amazing run. A jaw dropping period of musical excellence. But at that same time, The Beatles, The Who, The Kinks and Led Zeppelin all had incredible runs of albums every bit as historical, impactful and game changing as the Stones at that time. We sure were lucky to hear it as it all unfolded. :good2:
1969:
Regarding The Kinks, a few of my younger charges at work were discussing a fellow co-worker. I started singing a bit of "A Well Respected Man" in response. They were like "What is that your singing?". I said "You know, The Kinks? 'A Well Respected Man'?" Blank stares. Sigh. Okay tadpoles, pull up your chairs for another important cultural history lesson of the previous century (and millennia) from Grandpa Chris. 
Regarding The Kinks, a few of my younger charges at work were discussing a fellow co-worker. I started singing a bit of "A Well Respected Man" in response. They were like "What is that your singing?". I said "You know, The Kinks? 'A Well Respected Man'?" Blank stares. Sigh. Okay tadpoles, pull up your chairs for another important cultural history lesson of the previous century (and millennia) from Grandpa Chris.
Great story. They have no idea how much great music you've opened their minds to. :dup:
For my money the run of Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, & Exile On Main Street is virtually unparalleled and even more amazing is the bookends to these are Beggars Banquet and Goats Head Soup. Not a bad six years, eh?
I'd say at least paralleled by Rubber Soul through Let It Be which were released within only 4.5 years.
Rubber Soul - #1
Revolver - #1
Sgt. Peppers - #1
The Beatles - #1
Yellow Submarine - #3
Abbey Road - #1
Let It Be - #1
Beggars Banquet - #3
Let it Bleed - #1
Sticky Fingers - #1
Exile on Main St - #1
Goats Head Soup - #1
It's Only Rock N Roll - #2
Black and Blue - #2
Some Girls - #2
btw between the 2 bands Please Please Me, With The Beatles, A Hard Day's Night, Beatles for Sale, Help, The Rolling Stones, Aftermath and Emotional Rescue all went to #1. What an era from Britain - not to mention Pink Floyd, The Who and Led Zeppelin.
It's fun how universal music can be. The city we live in has about 400k and is roughly 1.5-2 hours north of Manila, while our province has about 2.2m yet it's well known a lot of residents are not from here originally but oved here opportunity. The lot next to ours has a house under construction and earlier this morning the workers were singing along to 80's alternative bands such as New Order, Psychedelic Furs, The Cure, Modern English, etc. Not your typical playlist for this area for more than a few reasons.
I can't fully explain why I love this song, but I do.
Structured, then way off the rails, then back to structured, is the best I have right now. Patience, and mood are key.
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
I have been a Suburbs fan for decades but they have 2 shows coming up at the 7th Street Entry, $75.00 a ticket to get in, not going to pay this much to see them :censored:
Aloha!
Who had the best MTV Unplugged? Nirvana? Pearl Jam? Neil Young? STP? Alice In Chains?
Who had the best MTV Unplugged? Nirvana? Pearl Jam? Neil Young? STP? Alice In Chains?
I love Clapton's. Listen to it all the time.
“When your best friend is the son of God, you get tired of losing every argument.”
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Who had the best MTV Unplugged? Nirvana? Pearl Jam? Neil Young? STP? Alice In Chains?
AIC perhaps but I am also partial to appearances by The Cure and REM.
The Cure, Neil Young, Clapton, Pearl Jam. Not in order, those are just my favorites.
MTV DID release at least one "collection" of the Best Of Unplugged, some solid versions on there. SRV top of that list....
When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
Parts of this may not be new for some but this channel is one of my favorites.
If the last one at least can't get your blood flowing well...
Parts of this may not be new for some but this channel is one of my favorites.
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Killing it live:
Charlie Parr would def be on my list of local acts to see if I should get the chance:
Someone recommended this song to me...I like it, look forward into finding more of this artist.
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When you tell somebody somethin', it depends on what part of the United States you're standin' in... as to just how dumb you are.
This looks interesting.
https://twitter.com/edgarwright/status/1392857238201675780?s=21
The Suburbs tomorrow Burnsville
Saturday, June 19th, 2021
The Relief Sessions Summer Concert Series
Burnsville, MN
Tickets HERE
Aloha!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1_Xxu1Qf8cbr >
I bet Radiohead wishes they didn't stop playing that song live now. 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUr1jSjex8
All time favorite hard rock/ metal song. ?
Saw The Climax Blues Band at Doc Holliday's back in the late 70's. Great show.