@j22 semantics kind of, but would change to say much of. It's been happening already for awhile with avg team ages going up. Just looking rapidly at CHN at sorting by age, avg roster age the last couple years has had between 17-20 teams with avg age under 21. This is compared to 18-19 having about 30 and same for 17-18. Think the COVID years/extra eligibility years have really affected the influx of players so will be curious to see where that number resettles to and if a permanent shift or not. Don't know how much the Canadian hockey legislation will change it from where it's already been.
with the changes, it's not going to make much sense to have any 18-19 year old players in the NCAA.@j22 semantics kind of, but would change to say much of. It's been happening already for awhile with avg team ages going up. Just looking rapidly at CHN at sorting by age, avg roster age the last couple years has had between 17-20 teams with avg age under 21. This is compared to 18-19 having about 30 and same for 17-18. Think the COVID years/extra eligibility years have really affected the influx of players so will be curious to see where that number resettles to and if a permanent shift or not. Don't know how much the Canadian hockey legislation will change it from where it's already been.
Landen Gunderson flips to Notre Dame. They might actually be relevant again once Jackson leaves and the new guy takes over.
https://twitter.com/collegepucknxt/status/1856108034629472356?s=46&t=AvtsG2WfNuGRyXzbYJqB7g
Gunderson was a Notre Dame commit for all of 11 days. Now he has flipped to Ohio State.
Ladies and Gentlemen, college athletics in 2024
Are we sure it’s not a mis-print on the Sioux City line chart?Landen Gunderson flips to Notre Dame. They might actually be relevant again once Jackson leaves and the new guy takes over.
https://twitter.com/collegepucknxt/status/1856108034629472356?s=46&t=AvtsG2WfNuGRyXzbYJqB7g
Gunderson was a Notre Dame commit for all of 11 days. Now he has flipped to Ohio State.
Ladies and Gentlemen, college athletics in 2024
Are we sure it’s not a mis-print on the Sioux City line chart?Landen Gunderson flips to Notre Dame. They might actually be relevant again once Jackson leaves and the new guy takes over.
https://twitter.com/collegepucknxt/status/1856108034629472356?s=46&t=AvtsG2WfNuGRyXzbYJqB7g
Gunderson was a Notre Dame commit for all of 11 days. Now he has flipped to Ohio State.
Ladies and Gentlemen, college athletics in 2024
Instagram account says Ohio State commit as well
That’s wild. What changes in 11 days? Could Ohio State be bringing him in mid season?
Not a player we’d want. Glad we’d stayed away.
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This is about to get messy.
https://twitter.com/chnews/status/1865042875852943377
Connor Levis committed to Bowling Green over the weekend. The commitment raised some eyebrows because Levis played two AHL games for the Manitoba Moose last season. Levis is in his final CHL eligibility season with the Vancouver Giants.
The Moose are the AHL affiliate of the Winnipeg Jets, which drafted Levis in the seventh round of the 2023 NHL Draft.
Levis played those two games with the Moose under an ATO (amateur tryout agreement). Speaking to several NHL agents over the weekend, the terms of those tryout deals vary. Typically, players are compensated for round-trip travel from a specific location, hotel room, and meals (some include per diem).
Under the new NCAA rules, if that’s all a player received on an ATO, that player would maintain his NCAA eligibility.
Players can participate with professional teams before their initial full-time enrollment if they receive no compensation beyond necessary expenses.
Every agent said they would “need to see the actual agreement.” Still, all speculated that Levis (and other players in his situation) wouldn’t likely receive more than their expenses, which would maintain their NCAA eligibility.
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@frozen4champs i dunno on this one. as long as it's just their expenses, don't see why this would be an issue (as an ATO). Players aren't going to be "signed" for lengthy versions of these as it doesn't help the player or the team. could i guess players do this at end of season and then come back if the team doesn't want them? I guess so but again I don't see that as being incredibly common and you'd have to be very careful with that contract.
@upnorthkid I just hope this doesn't become a trend. Plus, I have never heard of a North American player doing something like this. I know a few foreign players have had to miss a couple of college games because they played or practiced with a "pro" team over seas. BG needs all the help they can get I guess, plus he will be 21 when he hits campus.
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What’s a recruit? 🤣
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Penn State picks up a commitment from the WHL’s leading goal scorer Shea Van Olm.
With some of the quality guys that the “2nd tier” programs are getting, it really makes you wonder what type of players the Minnesota, Michigan, and BCs of the world are gonna get.
There will be some absolute bombshell commitments once the CHL season is done.
Henry Chmiel of Shattuck (originally Woodbury) to Arizona State. A few posters on here really liked his game.
@maroon_and_gold As someone who watches Van Olm every game, I didn't like this at all. He did mention in an intermission interview on Wednesday night that pro opportunities are his focus, the NCAA is a safety option.
Bowling Green has had five WHL commitments. I'm assuming this is because Dennis Williams, the BG coach, is the former coach in Everett. I can see schools like that focusing on CHL guys to try to compete. It will be interesting to see if it works.
Mason Minor (2007-born, BSM Junior defenseman) commits to Minnesota State.
Brother of the other Nelson’s so 0% surprising
https://twitter.com/PuckPreps/status/1873936061585559613
He changed his mind. He had 89 points this past season.
https://twitter.com/Nathaniel_Bott/status/1921724204040278137
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Nice for us. He’s pretty good.
Malcolm Spence (OHL) to Michigan. He'll probably be a first rounder. supposedly michigan with multiple other guys in the works. they're going to be loaded talent wise again this year
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
it’s likely going to go through a period of flux with us kids going north and Canadian kids coming south. Overall it’s very likely going up make ncaa hockey get older as a whole, which is bad for the sport
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
So far, I don't think the U has signed any CHL transfers (much to the chagrin of the "Debby Downers" on this site).
Also, there has only been 141 commits so far for 64 D1 teams, That's an average of fewer than 3 per team. It doesn't appear that the NC$$ on the verge of becoming CHL-South at this time.
Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes - Harry S Truman
@mnnavy That may be true but there will be destination schools for the best Canadians. I would expect Michigan, UND, and Denver will be three of those schools.
UND gets a commit Cooper Williams, 17 yo WHL player for Saskatoon. 2026 draft eligible so would suspect he plays WHL again next year but there's some steam he'll be a future 1st rounder
UND lands another large pair of commits in Verhoeff and Reschny.
Chyzyk recruiting pipelines paying massive dividends up in GF
Just when you think college hockey can't get worse, now we get to watch Canadians fill rosters at places like UND. They've never had a regional identity anyway, so it's no big deal to the Polaris jackets.
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D1 college coaches & AD’s only have themselves to blame. This BS of making HS kids (allowing D1 schools to require them to play) 2-3 years of junior hockey, it’s not the way any other D1 sport operates & that’s the root of the problem. Back in the 1970’s top HS players committed to a D1 school senior year of HS & those who weren’t as high end played D3 hockey, which was very high level too & kids got their degrees by age 22 or 23 & got on with their lives in a timely manner. Such a small percentage ever play even one shift in the NHL, let alone have long pro careers. Instead we have 21 year old freshman on many teams. With such a flawed system, Major Junior players in the NCAA took a helm of a long time, but was eventually going to happen. Just my 2 cents.Just when you think college hockey can't get worse, now we get to watch Canadians fill rosters at places like UND. They've never had a regional identity anyway, so it's no big deal to the Polaris jackets.
Jack Ivankovic, top goalie prospect in the CHL, commits to Michigan. The floodgates have opened.
Guessing there will be a number of commits post-draft as well as NHL teams have a say.
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D1 college coaches & AD’s only have themselves to blame. This BS of making HS kids (allowing D1 schools to require them to play) 2-3 years of junior hockey, it’s not the way any other D1 sport operates & that’s the root of the problem. Back in the 1970’s top HS players committed to a D1 school senior year of HS & those who weren’t as high end played D3 hockey, which was very high level too & kids got their degrees by age 22 or 23 & got on with their lives in a timely manner. Such a small percentage ever play even one shift in the NHL, let alone have long pro careers. Instead we have 21 year old freshman on many teams. With such a flawed system, Major Junior players in the NCAA took a helm of a long time, but was eventually going to happen. Just my 2 cents.Just when you think college hockey can't get worse, now we get to watch Canadians fill rosters at places like UND. They've never had a regional identity anyway, so it's no big deal to the Polaris jackets.
100%. would much rather we go back to you get 5 years starting from your post hs graduation year (or birth year, whatever makes most sense). 20-21 year old freshmen becoming the norm many places isn’t good for college hockey, as the trickle down is it pushes even your upper tier kids a year or two later eventually.
the COVID years going away will help some as now we don’t have the extra year there anymore. But guys playing college at 24-26 feels so outside of what college hockey is about. And I say this as a guy who has a relative who’s starting his college hockey career this fall at 21
Penn state picks up a projected first rounder out of the WHL today. We are getting left behind in this new era of recruiting/NIL.
Jackson Smith for those who are wondering who. Will be a top 20 Pick this year
And they are rumored to be the landing spot for Porter Martone too. Pretty crazy where this program is now compared to even 12 months ago.
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1929204779567202680?s=46&t=AvtsG2WfNuGRyXzbYJqB7g
Pegula money makes everything much easier
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
Boy did Bob and Co ever listen to you. Are you the programs biggest donor? Congrats on a new age of gopher hockey being irrelevant. We may be lucky to finish 4th in the big 10 this year
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
Boy did Bob and Co ever listen to you. Are you the programs biggest donor? Congrats on a new age of gopher hockey being irrelevant. We may be lucky to finish 4th in the big 10 this year
Fans in places like Penn State and UND are rejoicing. And why not? They don't have any home-grown talent to speak of, so they're used to it.
Back in the day, schools like LSSU won championships with Canadians ( as did Denver, UND, and MI Tech). We're heading that way again but it will be the big schools slugging it out, throwing cash around for Western Canadians. There's a seismic paradigm shift coming, and the small schools will be sucking the tailpipe.
I read a quote imputed to Lou Holtz that players 30 years ago talked about obligations and responsibilities. Today, they talk about rights and privileges.
With the new league rules, the NCAA is the perfect landing spot for the new crop of primadonnas.
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
Boy did Bob and Co ever listen to you. Are you the programs biggest donor? Congrats on a new age of gopher hockey being irrelevant. We may be lucky to finish 4th in the big 10 this year
Fans in places like Penn State and UND are rejoicing. And why not? They don't have any home-grown talent to speak of, so they're used to it.
Back in the day, schools like LSSU won championships with Canadians ( as did Denver, UND, and MI Tech). We're heading that way again but it will be the big schools slugging it out, throwing cash around for Western Canadians. There's a seismic paradigm shift coming, and the small schools will be sucking the tailpipe.
I read a quote imputed to Lou Holtz that players 30 years ago talked about obligations and responsibilities. Today, they talk about rights and privileges.
With the new league rules, the NCAA is the perfect landing spot for the new crop of primadonnas.
you reap what you sow. Hard not to see it as the NCAA did this to themselves and now you’ve empowered the ultra wealthy to pay for play above the table to buy titles where they can’t elsewhere (pegula, Michigan’s boosters, etc)
we should, if we decided to as an institution, be able to buy these players like any of the top tier group. We’ll see if we do. This will probably hurt college hockey at certain places, but I guess we’ll see. Maybe we’ll decide we’re going to buy the best MN players like the rest are the Canadians. Gross time in college sports before these guys (I hope) become university employees with contracts and this slows down and is reined in a bit
This isn't good at all. If Minnesota loads up on Canadians, they'll lose me as a fan. If the NCAA becomes a Canada-South minor league, they'll lose me as a fan.
I'm already at the door with 21-year-old freshmen and NIL. Moosejaw U would push me out of it.
Boy did Bob and Co ever listen to you. Are you the programs biggest donor? Congrats on a new age of gopher hockey being irrelevant. We may be lucky to finish 4th in the big 10 this year
Penn State finished 5th in the Big 10 and made the Frozen Four last year
This place has recently become infested with Bonin clones and the kind of self-entitled and spoiled fans that permeate FB and Twitter.
Fun.
I rather suspect they've been here a while, lurking in the background, waiting for a slow time where they can pop out from the shadows to whine.This place has recently become infested with Bonin clones and the kind of self-entitled and spoiled fans that permeate FB and Twitter.
Fun.
B1G refs... corrupt, or just incompetent?
This place has recently become infested with Bonin clones and the kind of self-entitled and spoiled fans that permeate FB and Twitter.
Fun.
Born in 97, to young to remember the gophers doing anything, real entitled
I rather suspect they've been here a while, lurking in the background, waiting for a slow time where they can pop out from the shadows to whine.This place has recently become infested with Bonin clones and the kind of self-entitled and spoiled fans that permeate FB and Twitter.
Fun.
the postgame threads would agree with this take
I am curious what is the attraction for these kids from the CHL coming down to play in the NCAA. Unless they are an American kid coming back no foreign students can receive NIL or revenue sharing. They are on student visas and are therefore not eligible to earn income in the US. Also all kids in the CHL sign contracts with their junior team that are almost always four years, so are these junior teams just letting them out of the contracts to come and play in the NCAA. With Porter Malone why would his junior team let him out of his contract? There is no benefit to them to do so, same goes for the other top end players like Misa.
Can’t wait for the absolute melt down on here when McKenna goes to one of those three conference rivals and we get to see all of wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth. Let’s just see how it all plays out before we start freaking out. The last four champions were teams that were built top to bottom for the playoffs and actually had very few “generational talents” and even first round picks. Look at DU, WMU, and Q.