I have one in PWA and the other in PWC. My PWC kid is in the middle of 23 practices or games in 25 days and 30 of last 34. Some of these are 2 events in one night. Thankfully for him he had a blister on his foot and was able to sit a few out. But wow.
It's interesting. I am the scrimmage coordinator for the team. I have been adding games as needed, but it sometimes fills a void in the schedule that they probably need for a night off. Might be time to cancel a practice or two to give the boys a break.
How are they paying officials for scrimmages now? When I did youth hockey this was always an issue. Since it isn't paid by league/association, the teams were supposed to pay the officials.
When I started, we wouldn't get on the ice until we had checks, but people complained about not being able to find the officials room and/or not feeling comfortable going in.
Fine, we won't drop the puck until we have checks. Then people complained that you shouldn't get paid for work you haven't done yet. Had a team treasurer literally yell "that's not the way the real world works kid!" At me.
So we had to wait until after the game to get paid. Then it's amazing the excuses that come up;
- forgot the checkbook
- treasurer is home sick/already left
- haven't collected enough money from the parents yet
- we paid for the ice, visitor was supposed to pay you
- we agreed to pay a different amount than what you are asking for, we will have to get back to you.
- then chasing some of the checks and getting NSF fees... :chainsaw:
I hated chasing my paychecks and ultimately stopped accepting scrimmages.
I haven't been involved with USA Hockey for several years. Hopefully they figured something out by now.
I have one in PWA and the other in PWC. My PWC kid is in the middle of 23 practices or games in 25 days and 30 of last 34. Some of these are 2 events in one night. Thankfully for him he had a blister on his foot and was able to sit a few out. But wow.
It's interesting. I am the scrimmage coordinator for the team. I have been adding games as needed, but it sometimes fills a void in the schedule that they probably need for a night off. Might be time to cancel a practice or two to give the boys a break.
How are they paying officials for scrimmages now? When I did youth hockey this was always an issue. Since it isn't paid by league/association, the teams were supposed to pay the officials.
When I started, we wouldn't get on the ice until we had checks, but people complained about not being able to find the officials room and/or not feeling comfortable going in.
Fine, we won't drop the puck until we have checks. Then people complained that you shouldn't get paid for work you haven't done yet. Had a team treasurer literally yell "that's not the way the real world works kid!" At me.
So we had to wait until after the game to get paid. Then it's amazing the excuses that come up;
- forgot the checkbook
- treasurer is home sick/already left
- haven't collected enough money from the parents yet
- we paid for the ice, visitor was supposed to pay you
- we agreed to pay a different amount than what you are asking for, we will have to get back to you.
- then chasing some of the checks and getting NSF fees... :chainsaw:
I hated chasing my paychecks and ultimately stopped accepting scrimmages.
I haven't been involved with USA Hockey for several years. Hopefully they figured something out by now.
We have to pay by credit card at the time of booking. Like checking out at Amazon, only with refs.
Refs are paid fairly well. $50-80 each for the scrimmage. Some refs will work 4 games in a day.
I have one in PWA and the other in PWC. My PWC kid is in the middle of 23 practices or games in 25 days and 30 of last 34. Some of these are 2 events in one night. Thankfully for him he had a blister on his foot and was able to sit a few out. But wow.
It's interesting. I am the scrimmage coordinator for the team. I have been adding games as needed, but it sometimes fills a void in the schedule that they probably need for a night off. Might be time to cancel a practice or two to give the boys a break.
How are they paying officials for scrimmages now? When I did youth hockey this was always an issue. Since it isn't paid by league/association, the teams were supposed to pay the officials.
When I started, we wouldn't get on the ice until we had checks, but people complained about not being able to find the officials room and/or not feeling comfortable going in.
Fine, we won't drop the puck until we have checks. Then people complained that you shouldn't get paid for work you haven't done yet. Had a team treasurer literally yell "that's not the way the real world works kid!" At me.
So we had to wait until after the game to get paid. Then it's amazing the excuses that come up;
- forgot the checkbook
- treasurer is home sick/already left
- haven't collected enough money from the parents yet
- we paid for the ice, visitor was supposed to pay you
- we agreed to pay a different amount than what you are asking for, we will have to get back to you.
- then chasing some of the checks and getting NSF fees... :chainsaw:
I hated chasing my paychecks and ultimately stopped accepting scrimmages.
I haven't been involved with USA Hockey for several years. Hopefully they figured something out by now.
We have to pay by credit card at the time of booking. Like checking out at Amazon, only with refs.
Refs are paid fairly well. $50-80 each for the scrimmage. Some refs will work 4 games in a day.
District 6 and 8 you get paid by check before the game. I have two scrimmages tonight. Checks will be waiting for me at the scorers table. Rates for tonights games are $37 and $40, Squirt B and Peewee B for an hour. Rates are all posted on the district sites (at least for 6 and .
Just curious, for those of you who have seen players go from youth hockey to D1 stars (and possibly NHLers), when did you start noticing they were going to be something special?
Just curious, for those of you who have seen players go from youth hockey to D1 stars (and possibly NHLers), when did you start noticing they were going to be something special?
My son grew up playing with 4 kids that ended up D1. All were really good from the start of mites, but not necessarily the best players at that age. I would say by the end of squirts, they had separated themselves from the rest of the pack.
Just curious, for those of you who have seen players go from youth hockey to D1 stars (and possibly NHLers), when did you start noticing they were going to be something special?
I first saw Phil Housley in the South St. Paul youth system. If I recall, he was playing center at the time. One could certainly see that there was already something special about him. When he joined the high school team, Wooger moved him to defense, so he had the entire game in front of him. Would have been interesting if he'd even had a "One and done" career at the "U".
I was a member of the coaching staff that coached Sam Rossini as a squirt. We knew at that point that he was ahead of everyone. We also knew that he was likely to grow a lot and potentially be a D1 talent.
Burnsville used to have a PWA and BA tourney in November sometime. I was playing on the PW tourney and we stayed to watch SSP play in the bantam tourney. My dad said watch number (whatever number Housley wore), he's going to be on the SSP varsity team next week. He was right.
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My daughter had her last District game on Saturday. I've never been so ready to be done with hockey. The season has been a disaster on the ice, and some of the parents have gone completely insane over the last month. Just about every game parents are screaming obscenities at the referees, getting into it with parents on the opposing team, and just displaying terrible behavior. A few of our players are feeding off the poor behavior of the parents and are embellishing falls like soccer players. Two have been suspended for game misconducts. Ugh.
Just curious, for those of you who have seen players go from youth hockey to D1 stars (and possibly NHLers), when did you start noticing they were going to be something special?
Squirts is when they show they are truly different, which is why you see PWAA teams versus Squirt AA teams. That being said, I am not sure we are far away from that.
That being said, you can tell early on certain kids have “it” but the difference is their work within themselves, coach-ability and of course parent commitment to feed that.
Just curious, for those of you who have seen players go from youth hockey to D1 stars (and possibly NHLers), when did you start noticing they were going to be something special?
Couple very different examples: Played against WBL all the way up with a really good rivalry and then in HS with them and Hill Murray. Tom Quinlan (Tartan/ HM) easily would have been D1 if he didn't choose baseball. Jon Anderson in WBL was a very good player, and glad he got the chance at the U, ended up Captain. Dave Espe - year older than me, he came across the blue line and cut across. I had him lined up dead to rights - my shoulder hurt the rest of the game and he never broke stride. Always thought he'd do more at the U, but a solid player.
2nd example - my kid got to play with Tommy Novak in AAA in first year of squirt age. At the end of that summer, we had a father/ son scrimmage. After watching him be dominant for most of the summer, and he was coming down on me 1 on 1, decided to play him straight up. Even though he was only 10, never looked down at the puck, skated right with me and did the smoothest turn out and fed a teammate going to the net before I could close the gap. I went - "wow, that kid will play D1 someday and maybe the NHL". Fun memory for both me and my son.
Talked to a good friend of mine, also a referee. I have coached his kid in hockey, he has coached my kid in baseball. He officiated the championship of the Squirt A International in Fargo last weekend. Vanek’s Stillwater team was in the championship and he said it was probably the best coached youth team he has ever seen/heard. He said coaches were positive, but firm and coached, didn’t berate or get down on the kids when they made mistakes. Never made any comments about calls or anything else. He was incredibly impressed and I only say this because not much impressed this guy when it comes to coaching youth sports. He’s also a UND fan so that helped solidify that he was truly impressed.
Moorhead wins Bantam AA and Peewee AA State. East Grand Forks wins Bantam A and Peewee A State. Should be interesting to see how Section 8 fares the next several years.
Bantam A state title game was 7-0. Peewee A was 5-0. Looks like EGF will be making a run of state tourney appearances soon.
One of EGF’s Bantam A wins this year was over Moorhead AA. EGF could totally move up at AA especially since 3 of their Squirt teams won State. They are doing a really good job recruiting at the youth level too.
Jr. is playing AAA this season. Pool play tournaments all summer long. I've seen this a few times and I have hated it every time, even when it benefits our team. 2 points for a win, but you get an additional point for a shutout. Why? "Oh you really embarrassed the other team 6-0, so you deserve an extra point in the standings." I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
Both teams finished pool play 2-1 overall. The other team got a shutout in one of their wins and got the bonus point in their first round. Second round Jr.'s team beats them pretty handily but not a shutout. Final round Jr. plays the last team and gets the win, but not a shutout. So the team Jr beat easily goes to the championship only because of the shutout. And of course they go on to win the championship. The team was really down about this so I think that messed with their heads going into the 3rd place game, which they ended up losing in OT. So they lost out on a trophy because one team couldn't score one goal in a blowout loss against a different team. Weird.
Jr. is playing AAA this season. Pool play tournaments all summer long. I've seen this a few times and I have hated it every time, even when it benefits our team. 2 points for a win, but you get an additional point for a shutout. Why? "Oh you really embarrassed the other team 6-0, so you deserve an extra point in the standings." I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
Both teams finished pool play 2-1 overall. The other team got a shutout in one of their wins and got the bonus point in their first round. Second round Jr.'s team beats them pretty handily but not a shutout. Final round Jr. plays the last team and gets the win, but not a shutout. So the team Jr beat easily goes to the championship only because of the shutout. And of course they go on to win the championship. The team was really down about this so I think that messed with their heads going into the 3rd place game, which they ended up losing in OT. So they lost out on a trophy because one team couldn't score one goal in a blowout loss against a different team. Weird.
Agree it’s bogus…but when teams tie in pool play, tiebreakers need to be used & in most cases, they are arbitrary (and not necessarily fair) as is receiving an extra point for a shutout ☝️That’s the simplest and (likely accurate) answer.
Jr. is playing AAA this season. Pool play tournaments all summer long. I've seen this a few times and I have hated it every time, even when it benefits our team. 2 points for a win, but you get an additional point for a shutout. Why? "Oh you really embarrassed the other team 6-0, so you deserve an extra point in the standings." I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
Both teams finished pool play 2-1 overall. The other team got a shutout in one of their wins and got the bonus point in their first round. Second round Jr.'s team beats them pretty handily but not a shutout. Final round Jr. plays the last team and gets the win, but not a shutout. So the team Jr beat easily goes to the championship only because of the shutout. And of course they go on to win the championship. The team was really down about this so I think that messed with their heads going into the 3rd place game, which they ended up losing in OT. So they lost out on a trophy because one team couldn't score one goal in a blowout loss against a different team. Weird.
The only thing I can think of is they are trying to give benefit to a team to also play good defense and not just pin their ears back and score as many goals as possible. It seems to go against my kid's teams more than it helps. So I've had similar frustrations. It is most frustrating when you play that last-place team for your third game of the weekend on short rest while the team you're battling against for the championship game played them well rested.
We played a regular season association tourney in either Detroit Lakes or Fargo this year that gave bonus points for a shutout.
Every year my kid plays in the Shock Dr Shootout for AAA. Check out these goofy ass rules......
SCORING AND POINTS FORMAT
•Each game is worth a maximum of 10 points.
•Six points for winning the game during regulation time, three (3) points each for a tie.
•Two (2) points for winning the pre-game shootout. If there is a tie in the shootout then each team receives one (1) point.
•One (1) point for six (6) penalties or less (this bonus point can be awarded to both teams if they qualify). Minor penalties are
considered one penalty. A major penalty is considered two penalties in this bonus point system. Misconduct penalty is considered
two penalties.
•One (1) point for shutout (this may be awarded to both teams if there is no score after regulation time in round-robin play).
•Point system and shootout are only for pool play of the tournament. Once teams are seeded there are no longer shootouts or unique
point system. Seeded games are regulation games with over time eligibility
Jr. is playing AAA this season. Pool play tournaments all summer long. I've seen this a few times and I have hated it every time, even when it benefits our team. 2 points for a win, but you get an additional point for a shutout. Why? "Oh you really embarrassed the other team 6-0, so you deserve an extra point in the standings." I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
Both teams finished pool play 2-1 overall. The other team got a shutout in one of their wins and got the bonus point in their first round. Second round Jr.'s team beats them pretty handily but not a shutout. Final round Jr. plays the last team and gets the win, but not a shutout. So the team Jr beat easily goes to the championship only because of the shutout. And of course they go on to win the championship. The team was really down about this so I think that messed with their heads going into the 3rd place game, which they ended up losing in OT. So they lost out on a trophy because one team couldn't score one goal in a blowout loss against a different team. Weird.
Agree it’s bogus…but when teams tie in pool play, tiebreakers need to be used & in most cases, they are arbitrary (and not necessarily fair) as is receiving an extra point for a shutout ☝️That’s the simplest and (likely accurate) answer.
Yeah. That's exactly the issue with this tournament. First tie breaker was head to head, which we would have won. Oh well. Just hope Jr. doesn't let it effect him too much. He gets a little too competitive. And it's partly my fault putting him into this situation because I encouraged him to play AAA instead of the summer program which he hated.
Jr. is playing AAA this season. Pool play tournaments all summer long. I've seen this a few times and I have hated it every time, even when it benefits our team. 2 points for a win, but you get an additional point for a shutout. Why? "Oh you really embarrassed the other team 6-0, so you deserve an extra point in the standings." I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
Both teams finished pool play 2-1 overall. The other team got a shutout in one of their wins and got the bonus point in their first round. Second round Jr.'s team beats them pretty handily but not a shutout. Final round Jr. plays the last team and gets the win, but not a shutout. So the team Jr beat easily goes to the championship only because of the shutout. And of course they go on to win the championship. The team was really down about this so I think that messed with their heads going into the 3rd place game, which they ended up losing in OT. So they lost out on a trophy because one team couldn't score one goal in a blowout loss against a different team. Weird.
Agree it’s bogus…but when teams tie in pool play, tiebreakers need to be used & in most cases, they are arbitrary (and not necessarily fair) as is receiving an extra point for a shutout ☝️That’s the simplest and (likely accurate) answer.
Yeah. That's exactly the issue with this tournament. First tie breaker was head to head, which we would have won. Oh well. Just hope Jr. doesn't let it effect him too much. He gets a little too competitive. And it's partly my fault putting him into this situation because I encouraged him to play AAA instead of the summer program which he hated.
You made the right decision. What matters is he’s playing and for the most part I’m sure he’s having fun playing in some tournaments. The days of putting your skates away in March & not putting them on until Fall realistically ended about 40 years ago. ? Ya gotta be on the ice during the spring/summer a decent amount…if you want to play HS hockey ? in the winter.
Jr. is playing AAA this season. Pool play tournaments all summer long. I've seen this a few times and I have hated it every time, even when it benefits our team. 2 points for a win, but you get an additional point for a shutout. Why? "Oh you really embarrassed the other team 6-0, so you deserve an extra point in the standings." I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
Both teams finished pool play 2-1 overall. The other team got a shutout in one of their wins and got the bonus point in their first round. Second round Jr.'s team beats them pretty handily but not a shutout. Final round Jr. plays the last team and gets the win, but not a shutout. So the team Jr beat easily goes to the championship only because of the shutout. And of course they go on to win the championship. The team was really down about this so I think that messed with their heads going into the 3rd place game, which they ended up losing in OT. So they lost out on a trophy because one team couldn't score one goal in a blowout loss against a different team. Weird.
The only thing I can think of is they are trying to give benefit to a team to also play good defense and not just pin their ears back and score as many goals as possible. It seems to go against my kid's teams more than it helps. So I've had similar frustrations. It is most frustrating when you play that last-place team for your third game of the weekend on short rest while the team you're battling against for the championship game played them well rested.
We played a regular season association tourney in either Detroit Lakes or Fargo this year that gave bonus points for a shutout.
Every year my kid plays in the Shock Dr Shootout for AAA. Check out these goofy ass rules......
SCORING AND POINTS FORMAT
•Each game is worth a maximum of 10 points.
•Six points for winning the game during regulation time, three (3) points each for a tie.
•Two (2) points for winning the pre-game shootout. If there is a tie in the shootout then each team receives one (1) point.
•One (1) point for six (6) penalties or less (this bonus point can be awarded to both teams if they qualify). Minor penalties are
considered one penalty. A major penalty is considered two penalties in this bonus point system. Misconduct penalty is considered
two penalties.
•One (1) point for shutout (this may be awarded to both teams if there is no score after regulation time in round-robin play).
•Point system and shootout are only for pool play of the tournament. Once teams are seeded there are no longer shootouts or unique
point system. Seeded games are regulation games with over time eligibility
Now that you mention it, junior gold playdowns did have some weird rules too. Just looked them up. They had the dumb shutout rule too.
*Six points shall be awarded for a win.
*Three points shall be awarded to each team for a tie.
*One point shall be awarded for a shutout.
*One point shall be awarded for each goal scored, up to a max of 3 points/game
I know why they do the odd rules and it’s like everyone said. That being said, when my kid was a 2nd year Squirt we playing in a tournament in Monticello. They had all the same rules but also added that you get an extra point for each period you score a goal in. We played Chaska-Chan first game and tied them 2-2. We didn’t score in 1 period and ended up in the consolation championship. We didn’t lose a game in that tournament and took 5th place. Beyond dumb.
It's dumb. Winning a game 1-0 counts more than beating a team 8-1.
I'm all for capping a goal differential in these tournaments, particularly AAA, like at 7 or whatever, so there is no incentive to beat a team by 13-14 goals. But leave it at the normal criteria: head-to-head, goal differential, goals against (where a shutout would get rewarded), coin flip.
I know I may have asked in the past, but it's coming up again so thought I'd just throw it out again to refresh.
Anyone have experience dealing with the NA3 or NAHL? Jr. is kind of getting a rough deal with high school so he's finally facing the fact a D1 scholarship is probably not coming his way. He's getting communications from NAHL teams on tryout camps and he sees this as his future to keep playing. There is a local kid or two who are played in the NA3 this year so of he sees this as his path because if that kid can do it, why can't he. I don't know if I should encourage this or not. They are pay to play of course so I totally understand this is a money maker. But is there good experience in going through these? It's not outrageously expensive for a weekend camp, but it isn't cheap either. He's was only a sophomore this year so I'm considering signing him up just for the experience. Any thoughts or tips how to navigate this?
I have a hard time seeing why a kid would need to go to the NA for his junior year of HS or even for his senior one. Why not go to those tryouts next year or the year after? Spend HS playing with your friends if you're not a high draft prospect.
I know I may have asked in the past, but it’s coming up again so thought I’d just throw it out again to refresh. Anyone have experience dealing with the NA3 or NAHL? Jr. is kind of getting a rough deal with high school so he’s finally facing the fact a D1 scholarship is probably not coming his way. He’s getting communications from NAHL teams on tryout camps and he sees this as his future to keep playing. There is a local kid or two who are played in the NA3 this year so of he sees this as his path because if that kid can do it, why can’t he. I don’t know if I should encourage this or not. They are pay to play of course so I totally understand this is a money maker. But is there good experience in going through these? It’s not outrageously expensive for a weekend camp, but it isn’t cheap either. He’s was only a sophomore this year so I’m considering signing him up just for the experience. Any thoughts or tips how to navigate this?
I don't have any experience, but I'd make sure to ask a lot of questions if you do plan to try a camp. The NAHL has a tourney at the Super Rink each year and have all of their teams come. It's crazy busy and the parking lot is full of cars from all over the country. I often think about the parents who drive from FL, NJ, CA, WA who come to see their kid play in this tournament. How many miles do they put on in a year? I sometimes talk to these parents and the lifestyle is....busy. We are lucky to live/play in MN.
That said, I also believe there are plenty of scouts at a tournament like that for players looking to move up the ladder.
The NA3 is simply a pay to play league. The players I coached that played there did not enjoy that league. In my experience the NA teams pretty much already know their rosters and have the tryout camps to serve as a team fundraiser with a small chance that they find a kid to add to the team.
The NA3 is simply a pay to play league. The players I coached that played there did not enjoy that league. In my experience the NA teams pretty much already know their rosters and have the tryout camps to serve as a team fundraiser with a small chance that they find a kid to add to the team.
Yeah... that's what I kind of suspected. Thanks.
I don't think he wants to go to the camp with aspirations of playing next year. He knows he's on the young side and AAA is rough because he's not the star he has been in years past. I'm hoping he wants to see how he would measure up. This has been an eye opening year for him so my thought is why not check it out. I don't know. Maybe it would shred his confidence seeing he's good but not great.
There has been talk of his high school conference starting up a co-op team for all 7-8 schools as he currently has no good hs option. That would be pretty cool IMHO if it happens.
Hey @Vegoe! A guy on our FB neighborhood (Hamline-Midway) page was pimping the Titans Learn To Skate event. Good luck, hope you get a huge turnout!
I offered my $0.02 telling them you weren't a half bad guy. ?
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Hey @Vegoe! A guy on our FB neighborhood (Hamline-Midway) page was pimping the Titans Learn To Skate event. Good luck, hope you get a huge turnout!
I offered my $0.02 telling them you weren't a half bad guy. ?
We need all the numbers that we can get. COVID did a number on kids in north and northeast Minneapolis, so our participation numbers are down about 25% and we are one of the more afforadable youth hockey options out there ($250 for minis, $500 for mites, $975 for squirts and $1150 for peewees). I won't be at all these sessions, but $50 for four ice of ice instruction is a good deal during the Spring and we'll probably have our $25 for six sessions deal available again next November.
The co-op with Edgcumbe and Langford for girls hockey has kept that option alive for now, but we only had about eight mini-mites and nine mites to start the season in 22-23. We at least doubled those numbers by midseason, but just not a sustainable association without growth there.
Eric, if you're really looking for numbers and retainment I feel those Mite, Squirt, and PW registration fees are really high. $975 is more than many associations charge for Bantams. Unless I'm not seeing the whole picture and possibly there is zero fundraising?
I'm not trying to disparage your efforts and I do wish you well with the Learn to Skate and association building.
Eric, if you're really looking for numbers and retainment I feel those Mite, Squirt, and PW registration fees are really high. $975 is more than many associations charge for Bantams. Unless I'm not seeing the whole picture and possibly there is zero fundraising?
I'm not trying to disparage your efforts and I do wish you well with the Learn to Skate and association building.
$975 is not more than most associations charge for bantams.
Below is the Blaine fee schedule. Vegoe’s assoc is charging a very fair fee.
Okay, is that real? Sorry, I've never seen anything like that. I know very few that could afford those astronomical prices. Are there "scholarships" available? My child wouldn't have been able to play, I know that.
Here's a more typical registration fee scale. Many out state associations are similar, some are less. Also, Mite and 8U first year skaters are free.
Vegoe's association is significantly cheaper than probably anywhere in the metro, and I applaud them for keeping the cost down. For comparison, here are the fees in my local association (Woodbury). And this is for "early" registration. Tack on $200+ more if you don't register in the first 2 weeks.
SQ/10U: $1,425
PW/12U: $1,875
B/15U: $2,355
My daughter played her last year of 15U this past season. I won't miss paying that bill next year. I think the High School fees are a little more reasonable.
Okay, is that real? Sorry, I've never seen anything like that. I know very few that could afford those astronomical prices. Are there "scholarships" available? My child wouldn't have been able to play, I know that.
Here's a more typical registration fee scale. Many out state associations are similar, some are less. Also, Mite and 8U first year skaters are free.
They will help out families in need. I’m not sure how your association pays for things at those prices. Our bantam teams play in 4 tournaments and I believe tourney fees are $1500 each. That’s $100 per player x 4 tourneys.
Refs cost $150 per game x 22ish league games, that’s another $100 per player. We’ve spent $500 per kid without paying for icetime.
I’m not sure how your association pays for things at those prices.
Good management? The association pays for everything including two sheets of ice the whole season. They always have a lot of money in their checking account with "those" registration prices. Sometimes I feel too much!
I’m not sure how your association pays for things at those prices.
Good management? The association pays for everything including two sheets of ice the whole season. They always have a lot of money in their checking account with "those" registration prices. Sometimes I feel too much!
Sometimes it's angel donors or pull tabs.
Warroad Arena's non-profit provides ice time for free to their association. Last year they had almost $2M in gifts, grants and contributions to support their program.
I looked at Minneapolis Storm's books for their pull tabs budget and it looked like they had like $7M in revenue for pull tabs and paid out $6.1M in cash prizes.
I looked at Minneapolis Storm's books for their pull tabs budget and it looked like they had like $7M in revenue for pull tabs and paid out $6.1M in cash prizes.
I suspect $900,000 pays for a lot of ice time, refs, etc
This is a tough rabbit hole for me today... White Bear Lake has the highest amount of gross recipts among youth hockey associations at $49M with $32M in gaming revenue with $27.3M in prizes.
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I just don't understand the point of doing this. Anyone have any knowledge or even logic why this gets done? Most tournaments don't have this so why do some decide to do this?
