Anyone have an NHL camp roll call for this years team? I’ve seen Cal (Utah) and Mooney (MTL) posts this far.
BOS: Hendrickson
BUF: Ziemer
CGY: Phillips
DAL: Di Pasquo
DET: Whipple
MTL: L. Mittelstadt, Mooney
NSH: Pahlsson, Rombach, Wood
NJ: Moe
NYI: Kvasnicka
NYR: Lamb
OTT: J. Moore
PIT: Huglen
TB: Kurth
UTA: Ludtke, Thomas
VAN: Grimes
WSH: Chesley
WPG: Pritchard
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I hope they find a way to fit Falloon into the lineup this year. I think a 22 year old big body that hits is exactly what a young team needs in their lineup.
As it stands now he’s the 13th forward, and depending who they add here in late summer he could become the 14th.
Hendrickson-Ludtke-Lamb
Mooney-Clark-Ziemer
Townsend-Pahlsson-Pritchard
Mittelstadt-Moe-Moore
You could argue slotting him in over Townsend or something but I don’t want Teddy to hit the portal. I think he has a bright future here.
I hope they find a way to fit Falloon into the lineup this year. I think a 22 year old big body that hits is exactly what a young team needs in their lineup.
As it stands now he’s the 13th forward, and depending who they add here in late summer he could become the 14th.
Hendrickson-Ludtke-Lamb
Mooney-Clark-Ziemer
Townsend-Pahlsson-Pritchard
Mittelstadt-Moe-Moore
You could argue slotting him in over Townsend or something but I don’t want Teddy to hit the portal. I think he has a bright future here.
Season can’t come fast enough.
Mooney-Ludtke-Ziemer
Hendrickson-Pahlsson-Lamb
Moe-Clark-Pritchard
Falloon-Jmitts-Moore
Townsend
Not overly worried about minutes for Teddy as we were down to Begley playing F at times last year for stretches.
I feel the past few years you kinda knew what the lines were gonna look like going into the season. This year is the definition of throw names in a blender and see what sticks.
82 days until the season. I’ve bounced between the trust the process and sky is falling camps this offseason.
-When will we know the final roster?
-Do folks think we will either have?
>1-2 top contributors
or
>1-2 “they recruited us”
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Talked about Ludtke as a top 6 guy. Also about trying to get older.
Excited about the roster, but not sure what you would expect him to say.
Very clear he is excited about Mooney and alluded to Mooney being here multiple years.
Talked about Ludtke as a top 6 guy. Also about trying to get older.
Excited about the roster, but not sure what you would expect him to say.
Very clear he is excited about Mooney and alluded to Mooney being here multiple years.
Excited for this roster and the season to get started. Bob didn’t really seem to allude one way or another as to if there will be any more roster additions before the season gets started. I feel like that’s the last big question mark that can be answered in the offseason.
Excited for this roster and the season to get started. Bob didn’t really seem to allude one way or another as to if there will be any more roster additions before the season gets started. I feel like that’s the last big question mark that can be answered in the offseason.
Heard something today that one player may be brought in to get the team to 25/26, but it is not an impact player. More of a Nick Michel type? We'll see if this happens or not.
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Not ideal but I get it. Don’t want one or two of Moore, Moe, Pritchard, Townsend in the stands every night. Honestly recruiting a 14th forward in the current landscape is near impossible. You want them to be good, but not too good where they portal out to a place where they can play more. IMO Strobel was the ideal 13th forward (even though he still transferred)
Damned if you do, damned if you don't type of situation. Not sure there is a difference-making forward to be had this late, unless an unexpected CHL forward or grad transfer hits the market.
Graham Harris it is from Augsburg. 3 years of eligibility remaining. Was a good player in the NAHL. Definition of a 14th forward/practice player.
I’m going to preface this by saying I’ve been a huge Motzko fan, but I think it’s very concerning to be adding another D3 player to the roster. Our biggest competition is adding high caliber players (from Canada) and our counter is a D3 guy. Makes me start to worry about the trajectory of this program. This may be an overreaction but this is concerning.
Im sure he is a solid player but these 14th forward type guys always end up playing due to injuries/world juniors. I have to think we could do much better than a d3 transfer.
Do we still have room/need to add a forward this offseason?
I’m going to preface this by saying I’ve been a huge Motzko fan, but I think it’s very concerning to be adding another D3 player to the roster. Our biggest competition is adding high caliber players (from Canada) and our counter is a D3 guy. Makes me start to worry about the trajectory of this program. This may be an overreaction but this is concerning.
That’s not an overreaction imo. Extra forwards are gonna be extra forwards but the main question should be why was nothing added to the top 6 (CHL-wise). Seems to me the plan from the start was to add freshmen and see where they take you.
My skepticism for the upcoming season remains very real but I’m still optimistic that if they keep this group together they could be a wily veteran team in the 2 years that follow. Similar to how the 2013-14 team was built.
Im sure he is a solid player but these 14th forward type guys always end up playing due to injuries/world juniors. I have to think we could do much better than a d3 transfer.
Do we still have room/need to add a forward this offseason?
We have sat at 14 forwards the past 3 or so seasons. My guess is this roster is final.
Not ideal but I get it. Don’t want one or two of Moore, Moe, Pritchard, Townsend in the stands every night. Honestly recruiting a 14th forward in the current landscape is near impossible. You want them to be good, but not too good where they portal out to a place where they can play more. IMO Strobel was the ideal 13th forward (even though he still transferred)
Let's not act like this is amateur student athlete program any more. This is a business. Bob is not doing the things that other programs are doing to make this team better. If any of the guys named above get pushed out of the lineup because we bring in some top players, so be it. I'd rather fill the last spot with a first liner and have everyone else shift down a spot, than bring in a D3 player to sit in the stands.
Not ideal but I get it. Don’t want one or two of Moore, Moe, Pritchard, Townsend in the stands every night. Honestly recruiting a 14th forward in the current landscape is near impossible. You want them to be good, but not too good where they portal out to a place where they can play more. IMO Strobel was the ideal 13th forward (even though he still transferred)
Let's not act like this is amateur student athlete program any more. This is a business. Bob is not doing the things that other programs are doing to make this team better. If any of the guys named above get pushed out of the lineup because we bring in some top players, so be it. I'd rather fill the last spot with a first liner and have everyone else shift down a spot, than bring in a D3 player to sit in the stands.
Then have your whole bottom 6 transfer out and do the whole thing over again the next year? Not a fan of the revolving door method but I’ll admit you have a point. Nothing should be handed to you at a program like Minnesota. Problem is kids that fight through adversity instead of finding greener pastures are a dying breed. This had turned into an old man yelling at a cloud rant but I hope you understand my point.
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Not ideal but I get it. Don’t want one or two of Moore, Moe, Pritchard, Townsend in the stands every night. Honestly recruiting a 14th forward in the current landscape is near impossible. You want them to be good, but not too good where they portal out to a place where they can play more. IMO Strobel was the ideal 13th forward (even though he still transferred)
Let's not act like this is amateur student athlete program any more. This is a business. Bob is not doing the things that other programs are doing to make this team better. If any of the guys named above get pushed out of the lineup because we bring in some top players, so be it. I'd rather fill the last spot with a first liner and have everyone else shift down a spot, than bring in a D3 player to sit in the stands.
Then have your whole bottom 6 transfer out and do the whole thing over again the next year? Not a fan of the revolving door method but I’ll admit you have a point. Nothing should be handed to you at a program like Minnesota. Problem is kids that fight through adversity instead of finding greener pastures are a dying breed. This had turned into an old man yelling at a cloud rant but I hope you understand my point.
The issue I have with that mentality is you are not going to bring in an elite player because you are worried about protecting your bottom 6?
Not ideal but I get it. Don’t want one or two of Moore, Moe, Pritchard, Townsend in the stands every night. Honestly recruiting a 14th forward in the current landscape is near impossible. You want them to be good, but not too good where they portal out to a place where they can play more. IMO Strobel was the ideal 13th forward (even though he still transferred)
Let's not act like this is amateur student athlete program any more. This is a business. Bob is not doing the things that other programs are doing to make this team better. If any of the guys named above get pushed out of the lineup because we bring in some top players, so be it. I'd rather fill the last spot with a first liner and have everyone else shift down a spot, than bring in a D3 player to sit in the stands.
Then have your whole bottom 6 transfer out and do the whole thing over again the next year? Not a fan of the revolving door method but I’ll admit you have a point. Nothing should be handed to you at a program like Minnesota. Problem is kids that fight through adversity instead of finding greener pastures are a dying breed. This had turned into an old man yelling at a cloud rant but I hope you understand my point.
The issue I have with that mentality is you are not going to bring in an elite player because you are worried about protecting your bottom 6?
Thats fair. To me it’s clear Bob has committed to the getting older method and he’s willing to throw this year by the wayside for the best shot in 2027 & 2028. Didn’t seem too interested in becoming a contender this season in a year where he had blue chips a-plenty to go after. The lack of CHL presence seems intentional at this point.
Let’s talk expectations for the upcoming season. I think it’s clear that most if not all here expect it to be some form of a rebuild year. I feel a NCAA tournament birth constitutes a successful season. Lowest expectations I’ve had since pre-COVID.
Let’s talk expectations for the upcoming season. I think it’s clear that most if not all here expect it to be some form of a rebuild year. I feel a NCAA tournament birth constitutes a successful season. Lowest expectations I’ve had since pre-COVID.
expectation every year is that we will contend for the title while understanding in one and done most of the time that isn't going to happen where you actually get it done. On paper the team isn't one to stack up next to BU, MSU, PSU, or even UND, UM, BC and feel "good" about being better than them.
Fun part is last year WMU was picked to finish 6th (USCHO, media) in the NCHC. Not the country, in their conference.
To me, Bob doesn't really get the benefit of a "rebuild" year and I don't think he's looking at it that way. In reality I don't think this team sniffs winning the B10, but my expectation is they get into the tournament as a 3 seed or so and are going to be a rough first round team to play against that will be old and may actually be built better for postseason hockey. If they miss the tourney altogether, Bob may not be the coach unless he absolutely crushes recruiting this fall
Not ideal but I get it. Don’t want one or two of Moore, Moe, Pritchard, Townsend in the stands every night. Honestly recruiting a 14th forward in the current landscape is near impossible. You want them to be good, but not too good where they portal out to a place where they can play more. IMO Strobel was the ideal 13th forward (even though he still transferred)
Let's not act like this is amateur student athlete program any more. This is a business. Bob is not doing the things that other programs are doing to make this team better. If any of the guys named above get pushed out of the lineup because we bring in some top players, so be it. I'd rather fill the last spot with a first liner and have everyone else shift down a spot, than bring in a D3 player to sit in the stands.
Then have your whole bottom 6 transfer out and do the whole thing over again the next year? Not a fan of the revolving door method but I’ll admit you have a point. Nothing should be handed to you at a program like Minnesota. Problem is kids that fight through adversity instead of finding greener pastures are a dying breed. This had turned into an old man yelling at a cloud rant but I hope you understand my point.
The issue I have with that mentality is you are not going to bring in an elite player because you are worried about protecting your bottom 6?
Thats fair. To me it’s clear Bob has committed to the getting older method and he’s willing to throw this year by the wayside for the best shot in 2027 & 2028. Didn’t seem too interested in becoming a contender this season in a year where he had blue chips a-plenty to go after. The lack of CHL presence seems intentional at this point.
I agree with you, it does seem that there was an intention with the way recruiting was approached this offseason. If the desire is to get older at the expense of accumulating skilled and talented players who might be younger it is not the approach I'd prefer. At this point, all we can do is see how it plays out.
I think part of the question is, how many of these guys would you be legit "excited" about coming in for next year? Maybe 5-10 that I can think of off the top of my head who are committed and where are they going
McKenna (were you going to pay 700k for him for one year), Reschny and Verhoeff (committed from a coach who won a Natty at UND and knew the whole staff there), Ritchie (this was one I would've loved to see us have gone after aggressively but never seemed in the cards which may be the Celebrini effect), Lindstrom (I'd assume MSU threw a bag at him as well as being an awesome place to go), Smith (ditto for PSU here), Spence (UM supposedly also willing to throw large dollar amounts).
Other guys are mid-late round picks (Misa, Kipkie, etc.) or are coming in next year/down the road (Ivankovic, Mbuyi, etc.) and a bunch of guys who were thought to be coming down are not now (Misa, Bear) with many of those guys still going to be available.
If Bob is intentionally not recruiting them, he won't be the coach here for long as it's entirely ignoring a massive pool of players. We'll see how it goes with the actual blue chip prospects, but given they're national recruits, I don't know if I'd hang my hat saying we're intentionally not recruiting them given where they've ended up and/or the dollar amounts thrown at them.
There will be, assumedly, about 5-10 every year who are take your team up a notch kind of players that everyone will want and there will be rosters where I'd probably say you go ahead and throw the bag at a guy to try land them to take your team over the top. TBH this roster isn't really it and you lose 4 guys for next year and a guy like McKenna who could take a more middling roster over the top was at a price point that is massively outside budget unless he's the final piece
This team still does have 13 (or so depending on who is on campus this fall and if any changes) draft picks on it. It's not like we're throwing out a ragtag band of misfits. I get it we're all stir crazy and want something to get excited about. We'll see how it actually shakes out and how many guys hit campus and what impact they actually have. How we do in state this fall is going to be way more telling of what's going on and Bob's viability as continuing to be the HC here.
That's a fair way to look at it. I do agree that this team is likely more than 1 or 2 pieces away so maybe this isn't the year to go all in.
I think part of the question is, how many of these guys would you be legit "excited" about coming in for next year? Maybe 5-10 that I can think of off the top of my head who are committed and where are they going
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If Bob is intentionally not recruiting them, he won't be the coach here for long as it's entirely ignoring a massive pool of players. We'll see how it goes with the actual blue chip prospects, but given they're national recruits, I don't know if I'd hang my hat saying we're intentionally not recruiting them given where they've ended up and/or the dollar amounts thrown at them.
I wouldn't think he's intentionally avoiding most top recruits, but if he truly missed out on 5-10 there's quite a few other elite programs competing for those same 5-10 guys.
I have to admit that many of the concerns sound legit, but I'm not yet ready to say Bob is completely out of it long term based upon this one set of players. If it repeats however during the next recruiting cycle all bets are off.
man I hope so. That sophomore season he had at Wisconsin was insane and his freshman year at a ppg was not too shabby
Super pumped for Mooney. It’s like having a first round pick you know you’ll have for at least 3 years.
I think Mooney has a chance to be a great college player, but other than both being tiny, I don't really see the Caufield comparison. Mooney does everything but shoot and Caufield does nothing but shoot.
Players starting to arrive on campus now. Freshman getting their numbers. Pritchard will wear #3 (lowest forward number since…?), McLaughlin 24 & Mooney 18.
Personally I was hoping Mooney would throw on 92 but I get it. 18 has been his number his whole career.
Players starting to arrive on campus now. Freshman getting their numbers. Pritchard will wear #3 (lowest forward number since…?), McLaughlin 24 & Mooney 18.
Personally I was hoping Mooney would throw on 92 but I get it. 18 has been his number his whole career.
Do I remember that Jack Glover played a few games at forward and he wore #3? It may have been an injury fill in situation or world junior deal. I certainly don't qualify him as a forward though since he played 99% of his games at defense. You are correct though as far as low number forwards. Plenty of #7's, but not much lower in the modern era.
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Players starting to arrive on campus now. Freshman getting their numbers. Pritchard will wear #3 (lowest forward number since…?), McLaughlin 24 & Mooney 18.
Personally I was hoping Mooney would throw on 92 but I get it. 18 has been his number his whole career.
Whipple is switching to 4 as well
If they could just get a high end Dman and center in the next recruiting cycle you'd have a pretty good roster. Guys like Jimmy Clark, Ludtke, Mooney, Hendricksen, and Ziemer all should be solid pieces in a top 6 or at worst 9 if they get pushed down the lineup. You'll also need some other recruits to replace the guys who leave the following year but ideally some of those guys can play lower in the lineup like Kurth did his first year.I think part of the question is, how many of these guys would you be legit "excited" about coming in for next year? Maybe 5-10 that I can think of off the top of my head who are committed and where are they going
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If Bob is intentionally not recruiting them, he won't be the coach here for long as it's entirely ignoring a massive pool of players. We'll see how it goes with the actual blue chip prospects, but given they're national recruits, I don't know if I'd hang my hat saying we're intentionally not recruiting them given where they've ended up and/or the dollar amounts thrown at them.
I wouldn't think he's intentionally avoiding most top recruits, but if he truly missed out on 5-10 there's quite a few other elite programs competing for those same 5-10 guys.
I have to admit that many of the concerns sound legit, but I'm not yet ready to say Bob is completely out of it long term based upon this one set of players. If it repeats however during the next recruiting cycle all bets are off.
Thinking the team should be better at 3 on 3 this year. Mooney alone is a 3 on 3 cheat code. God bless Snuggy & Wood but they weren’t the best creators in overtime. Even Moore seemed to be less effective than you’d think, although that was more a symptom of him trying to do everything all at once.
Anyway, Mooney & Ludtke should be elite 3 on 3 options if you can win the draw.
Did Jack Ramsey wear #2, or am I way off base?
Looking forward to watching Mooney, and I agree with J22 that his game doesn't really appear similar to the way Caufiield played.
Did Jack Ramsey wear #2, or am I way off base?
Ramsey was #16 from what I recall, though possible he switched at some point.
Wally Chapman (1985-86) was the last full-time Gopher forward to wear #3
Eric Lempe (1982-83) was the last Gopher forward to wear #2 (switched to #8 and then #15)
Thinking the team should be better at 3 on 3 this year. Mooney alone is a 3 on 3 cheat code. God bless Snuggy & Wood but they weren’t the best creators in overtime. Even Moore seemed to be less effective than you’d think, although that was more a symptom of him trying to do everything all at once.
Anyway, Mooney & Ludtke should be elite 3 on 3 options if you can win the draw.
Oliver has zero hockey sense. He had no clue how to play 3 on 3.
Wally Chapman (1985-86) was the last full-time Gopher forward to wear #3
Eric Lempe (1982-83) was the last Gopher forward to wear #2 (switched to #8 and then #15)
I don't pay attention to roster #'s a ton, but is it pretty common for players on other teams (college or pros) to *eschew wearing #2 or 3?
*Apologies to any lurking UW or UND fans that will have to look that word up.
I don't play too close attention to jersey number either, but scanning rosters from CHN (only includes numbers of players returning to college from last year), there were only a few forwards with #2, 3, or 4 in the country:
#2 Tom Leppa, Michigan Tech
#2 Zaccharya Wisdom, CC (now Western Mich.)
#3 Lucas Wahlin, St. Thomas
#4 Teddy Stiga, BC
#4 Glebs Prohorenkovs, Niagara
#4 Henry Bartle, Michigan Tech
#4 Brett Moravec, Minnesota State
Also randomly remembered that Jack Devine (Denver) wore #4 and both Ziemer and Will Smith wore #2 in their second seasons with the USNTDP.
I don't play too close attention to jersey number either, but scanning rosters from CHN (only includes numbers of players returning to college from last year), there were only a few forwards with #2, 3, or 4 in the country:
#2 Tom Leppa, Michigan Tech
#2 Zaccharya Wisdom, CC (now Western Mich.)
#3 Lucas Wahlin, St. Thomas
#4 Teddy Stiga, BC
#4 Glebs Prohorenkovs, Niagara
#4 Henry Bartle, Michigan Tech
#4 Brett Moravec, Minnesota StateAlso randomly remembered that Jack Devine (Denver) wore #4 and both Ziemer and Will Smith wore #2 in their second seasons with the USNTDP.
Yeah some headlines were made last year when both Will Smith and Rutger McGroarty wore 2 for their NHL teams, becoming the first forwards to do so since maybe the 1980s.
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Javon Moore #27
Jacob Rombach #5
Beckett Hendrickson from #14 to #7