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    It’s no secret that I hate the style that the South Americans play, but man it irritates me. In this Peru Colombia game.

    You’re running step for step with one of the best players in the world late in a tie game, feel a brush against your chin, and decide to let him run into wide open space, while you clutch your face and go to the ground, hoping the ref will call something. Fuck off…

    Was really happy the ref called nothing, and was hoping Colombia would have scored off that play.

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    Dear Lord

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      @gopherguy13 wrote:

      It’s no secret that I hate the style that the South Americans play, but man it irritates me. In this Peru Colombia game.

      You’re running step for step with one of the best players in the world late in a tie game, feel a brush against your chin, and decide to let him run into wide open space, while you clutch your face and go to the ground, hoping the ref will call something. f*** off…

      Was really happy the ref called nothing, and was hoping Colombia would have scored off that play.

      Was watching the game in Medellin with a pretty international group. I kept a running list of ‘reasons why Americans hate soccer’ based on what was happening. Even Colombian soccer fans were saying it was a pretty boring match.

      Could be pretty interesting if Colombia makes the finals, since I’ll be in Bogota that night.

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      Think I’ll give Belgium-Ireland a look tonight if I don’t forget to tune in.

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      @Slap Shot wrote:

      Think I’ll give Belgium-Ireland a look tonight if I don’t forget to tune in.

      I always try to watch Ireland if I can. Their fans rock.

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      Belgium get away with an obvious high kick in their own box and avoid a PK, then use their brilliant CA to go back down and score.

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      We get to lose to Argentina on Tuesday!

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      Love what I am seeing by Chile so far!!

      Can’t wait to see how bad the Mexican fans get if their team does not get back in to this. Mexican fans make UND fans look like angels.

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      4-0!!!

      Suck it Mexico!!

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      Not a huge soccer fan. Although I’m a fan of soccer for international games.

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      @Viking wrote:

      We get to lose to Argentina on Tuesday!

      Where’s your American spirit?

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      Mexico getting completely destroyed. 5-0

      :good2: :biggrin2: :dance:

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        Delicious.

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        Why do all these people who score goals (in the highlights that ESPN is running) assault the flag in the corner?

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          Because that flag is a haughty piece of sh!t.

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          @Beauner wrote:

          Why do all these people who score goals (in the highlights that ESPN is running) assault the flag in the corner?

          The flag knows what it did.

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          I’m going to need a cigarette after this game.

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            @Armadillo wrote:

            I’m going to need a cigarette after this game.

            I’m going to buy a pack. It’s needed after a good pounding like that

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            [twitter=ussoccer:bmebka1o]We’re proud to represent @CONCACAF in the #CopaAmerica semifinals.[/twitter:bmebka1o]

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            Chile Germanied them. That was awesome last night.

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            Hahaha yes! Oh, how I wish I could have watched.

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            [twitter=USATODAYSports:2ra7gye5]Leonardo Messi, Argentina stand in way of historic run by U.S. soccer at Copa America. usat.ly/28JrlCR[/twitter:2ra7gye5]
            https://twitter.com/USATODAYsports/status/744926611166859264 :lol:

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              Spain’s white away shirt looks awful. All of the players look like they barfed and bled all over themselves after a rough night and now they have to stand before the morning commuters.

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              Oof, that is bad. Always loved Croatia’s uniforms, though.

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              Wtf was Guzan doing there? The rest of the team was watching Messi.

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              Not sure Guzan could have played it differently on replay, by my first reaction was he should have attacked the ball.

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              Yeah, either stay on the line or attack the ball. He went halfway and froze- directly under the apex of the ball.

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              Surprise that Bradley had a TO in a key spot during an attack.

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                God, the atmosphere for this game is just incredible.

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                Terrible foul call.

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                @Slap Shot wrote:

                Surprise that Bradley had a TO in a key spot during an attack.

                We really need that sarcasm font. Bradley has been terrible the whole tournament.

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                  @Viking wrote:

                  @Slap Shot wrote:

                  Surprise that Bradley had a TO in a key spot during an attack.

                  We really need that sarcasm font. Bradley has been terrible the whole tournament.

                  He’s terrible all the time.

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                  @fearthegopher wrote:

                  @Viking wrote:

                  @Slap Shot wrote:

                  Surprise that Bradley had a TO in a key spot during an attack.

                  We really need that sarcasm font. Bradley has been terrible the whole tournament.

                  He’s terrible all the time.

                  He’s great with space, but when he’s challenged he folds like a deck of cards.

                  If the US survives the half within 1 they have to find a way to improve their possession%.

                  Goal Messi game over? :(

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                    Jesus. You need to have that save. You’re a couple feet off center.

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                      Messi is a god.

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                      I don’t think you can take a more perfect free kick than that :shock:

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                        Lavessi is a fucking little bitch.

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                        Lucky we’re not down to 9.

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                          How’s that?

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                            Wonder is out

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                              God fucking damnit.

                              Nice job defense.

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                                Holy shit Besler. That was some of the worst defense I’ve ever seen.

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                                So I guess I didn’t really expect a win and why would I, but I was hoping they’d touch the ball more than 3 times this far into the match. :(

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                                  Their first touches have been atrocious. Just atrocious. I know they can’t hear very well, but they need to help each other out and let them know when to settle and when to advance.

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                                    When I was a ref, when teams started pulling this shit I just stopped my watch.

                                    I hate South American teams.

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                                      OH SNAP!

                                      That’s is a brutally broken arm.

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                                        Sick pass by Messi

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                                        This game is certainly showing just how far the US has to go before they can be considered top-flight.

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                                          @Armadillo wrote:

                                          This game is certainly showing just how far the US has to go before they can be considered top-flight.

                                          US outshot 10-0

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                                            The more I see that goal by Messi, the more I get pissed at Guzan.

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                                              Lalas is nailing it in the post game.

                                              “There’s no shame in losing to Argentina except when you lose like this to Argentina…The amount of unforced errors”

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                                              @dxmnkd316 wrote:

                                              The more I see that goal by Messi, the more I get pissed at Guzan.

                                              Because he looked slow to react or because he broke the wrong way just long enough to have no chance?

                                              I’ve felt this all year but the US needs to get their Keeper situation figured out. If Guzan is our #1 at the WC that’s a really bad sign

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                                              I was not wholly surprised to see them lose 4-0 – however I was wholly surprised for them to look like it could have easily been 8-0. Argentina was toying with them while the US seemed to have but 2 or 3 players that looked like they wanted to be on the pitch. And Michael Bradley?

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                                                I miss this crew. A lot.

                                                I’ve not been a fan of FS1’s coverage at all. ESPN’s coverage of the World Cup was some f the best sports coverage I have ever seen.

                                                Everyone that FS1 has put forth is just forcing everything.

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                                                  @davescharf wrote:

                                                  @dxmnkd316 wrote:

                                                  The more I see that goal by Messi, the more I get pissed at Guzan.

                                                  Because he looked slow to react or because he broke the wrong way just long enough to have no chance?

                                                  I’ve felt this all year but the US needs to get their Keeper situation figured out. If Guzan is our #1 at the WC that’s a really bad sign

                                                  I’ll be honest, it was basically everything after the point he set his wall and moved into position.

                                                  He reacted slow, his reaction was poor (double jumped and actually jumped the wrong way indicating he was guessing), and I would have liked to have seen maybe a fifth player on that wall on the far side of the wall (though this is probably hindsight bias).

                                                  If you look at the shot, he’s standing almost 75% of the way to the far post. That’s perfect. You want to setup your wall to cover as much of that near post as possible. On a shot from this position, I’m trying to cover no less than half the goal and if I can find a spare guy, maybe 60%. When you look at where he is when the shot is in the air, he’s back to around the center of the net.

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                                                  (The second picture is after he’s moved back towards center and is trying to recover before he dives. It’s not shown but he moves to just in front of the person in red behind the goal when the ball is just crossing the wall.)

                                                  At the kick, Messi perfectly splits the wall and the Argentinian attacker and bends it in to where Guzan was standing. I’ve actually made a similar save in a set piece from about that location. A national team goalie needs to make this save every time. I know it’s the greatest player on earth, but when the net is shortened by almost 12 feet, you don’t need a great reaction. You should be able to read that arc fairly easily.

                                                  Two other points. The wall collapsed in on itself. God I hate that.

                                                  The second, which seems odd given the first point, is that you need to trust your wall. Set it up right and trust it. If (lol) Messi can bend it around a well-placed wall on the near side, make him earn that. That’s a much more difficult shot in my opinion. You have less distance for the ball to arc back and you have to go over or around the wall. Guzan shouldn’t have jumped back. Once he did that, the save was nearly impossible. If he trusts the wall, he doesn’t and shouldn’t make that cut back.

                                                  He wasn’t screened and by the time he was making his final dive, the ball was just outside the goal area.

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                                                  You went into it in a lot more detail. I played goalie part time up until high school and my first reaction was “why is he moving towards the side he setup his wall to protect?” It was a hell of a shot but if you’re setting the wall to take away the near post, as you said, you have to make that save.

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                                                    Yeah, definitely props to Messi for making the shot. It was nearly perfect.

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                                                      Go on, Ireland! I apparently missed a good day of football because of travel, but fucking come on you boys in green.

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                                                      USMNT just lacks ANY creativity in the final third. When they are pressing for a goal, they get into space, and then panic, looking for an obvious pass.

                                                      When you watch world class attacking players, it’s like they’re not even thinking, just naturally putting the ball into dangerous areas.

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                                                      Germany looking rock solid against Slovakia. Nice to see Mario Gomez back in the German team.

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                                                      Jeez, one side of the bracket in Euros is crazy. Assuming Germany hold on to beat the Slovaks here, you’ll have a quarterfinal of Germany vs. Italy/Spain, a legitimate final-worthy matchup in the quarters.

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                                                      What the fuck is this ref doing?

                                                      In what universe is that a straight red? The first sending off was harsh too, I thought.

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                                                      @gopherguy13 wrote:

                                                      What the f*** is this ref doing?

                                                      In what universe is that a straight red? The first sending off was harsh too, I thought.

                                                      That kind of reminds me of this:

                                                      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/22/swedish-footballer-sent-off-for-farting-during-match

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                                                      I know it’s a common complaint, but the amount of flopping/embellishment in this match is friggin’ embarrassing.

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                                                      What a save by Romero. I thought that was going in.

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                                                      And another great save on the other end by Bravo :shock:

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                                                      @Armadillo wrote:

                                                      I know it’s a common complaint, but the amount of flopping/embellishment in this match is friggin’ embarrassing.

                                                      The South Americans are hall of fame caliber..Robbie Earl looks like about Bantam A level compared to those guys.

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                                                      Wow, Vidal and Messi both miss.

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                                                        @davescharf wrote:

                                                        @Armadillo wrote:

                                                        I know it’s a common complaint, but the amount of flopping/embellishment in this match is friggin’ embarrassing.

                                                        The South Americans are hall of fame caliber..Robbie Earl looks like about Bantam A level compared to those guys.

                                                        Don’t leave out Africa. Ghana is world class. I remember two world cups ago when they bounced us one of their players flopped around for minutes near the end of the game only to do backflips a couple minutes later when they scored to put the game away.

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                                                        So about that Messi legacy.

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                                                        He just needs to punch one in in 2018 and we’re good…

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                                                          Wow. Messi basically announced his retirement from the Argentina national team

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                                                          Is he going to play baseball in the summer for a few years?

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                                                          @GrandForksGopher wrote:

                                                          Wow. Messi basically announced his retirement from the Argentina national team

                                                          Seems a bit rash.

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                                                          @Armadillo wrote:

                                                          @GrandForksGopher wrote:

                                                          Wow. Messi basically announced his retirement from the Argentina national team

                                                          Seems a bit rash.

                                                          Yeah I don’t believe it. It was right after the game when emotions were flowing. It’s like the reverse every year when a college player gets done with his season and declares postgame that he will definitely be back next year only to turn pro a few months later. Messi will calm down and common sense will prevail.

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