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    Slap Shot wrote:


    https://twitter.com/BrentTerhune/status/1363292431479943170?s=20

    Ground control to major Tom! Yes 👏 👏

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    41 years ago tonight do you believe in Miracles? Yes 🏆

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    North Dakota is welcome for that title. Our coach and players were too busy winning the biggest game in hockey history.

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    This would be so much fun!

    ‘Hockytown USA’ finds new way to entertain itself on skates

    https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/local/land-of-10000-stories/inspired-by-covid-closings-skate-path-on-warroad-river-is-25-miles-of-winter-fun/89-3dea6b36-25f7-42b2-a642-0e80cfb31691


    2 teams, one from West Fargo and one from Fargo (Peewee A/AA) were up there this weekend for a tournament and both skated the river and posted pictures. It did look neat as hell. Warroad/Roseau do a really good job of co-oping for the tournaments up there, despite being some hated rivals in hockey, Warroad has the hotels and Roseau has the better facilities.

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    41 years ago today team USA wins the Gold medal coming from behind again 🥇🏆🏅

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    USA! USA! USA!

    So glad I have links to both games on YouTube to watch. The Finland game is on tap for this afternoon.

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    Slap Shot wrote:


    :lol:

    https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1364546699813863426?s=20

    We are DEFINITLEY not worthy.

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    Our Veterans Employee Resource Group has someone who’s father-in-law who works with some of the original members of Tuskegee Airmen. He was able to setup a conversation with one of them for a Black History Month event.

    It’s been almost 20 years since I got out of the military but I never get tired of listening to any veterans from WWII speak given there’s so few of them alive any longer

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    The hidden code in Perseverance’s parachute:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJdYAsnvQo8

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    I think I’ll give my dog a hug when I get home.

    https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1365450848885739525?s=20

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    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.

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    Composer wrote:


    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.

    Congratulations, Composer. I’ll be joining you in 3 years, 3 months, and 28 days (but who’s counting).

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    MNNavy wrote:


    Composer wrote:


    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.

    Congratulations, Composer. I’ll be joining you in 3 years, 3 months, and 28 days (but who’s counting).

    Ha! Funny.

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    I’m 10 years into my professional career in June, hopefully 30 max to go… But who’s counting

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    Composer wrote:


    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.


    Congratulations! Love it when people can leave on their terms! Here’s to a long and happy retirement!

    :beerchug:

    Bonin21 wrote:


    I’m 10 years into my professional career in June, hopefully 30 max to go… But who’s counting

    Congrats! I’m 31 into mine in June and plan to see 35 but not 40. :)

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    MNNavy wrote:


    Composer wrote:


    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.

    Congratulations, Composer. I’ll be joining you in 3 years, 3 months, and 28 days (but who’s counting).

    I hope to be joining you in about 20 years, but who knows? Dunno if I’ll be able to do the physicality of my job when I’m 65. I sure hope so (in my 20th year at current company, same occupation for 27, though). :)

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    Greyeagle wrote:


    Composer wrote:


    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.


    Congratulations! Love it when people can leave on their terms! Here’s to a long and happy retirement!

    :beerchug:

    Bonin21 wrote:


    I’m 10 years into my professional career in June, hopefully 30 max to go… But who’s counting

    Congrats! I’m 31 into mine in June and plan to see 35 but not 40. :)

    Judging by your FB feed you never work anyways :mrgreen:

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    davescharf wrote:

    Judging by your FB feed you never work anyways :mrgreen:

    Mother Mining has a nice PTO benefits when you’re here long enough. :)

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    I have always said I have never had a real job. Worked as a position coach for a year after and some how was “gifted” a B.A. in Econ. from my alma mater. Spent 1 semester @ in law school & hated it.

    Had worked construction as a summer job so being broke I went back to it ” just to get my feet on solid ground”.

    35 years later, after occasionally looking at entry level “real jobs”, I retired with a Taft Hartley pension. Thank you very very much UBC & J of A.

    I was in field management for a good portion of it so I guess my college goal of coaching happened. As a supt

    you are 1/2 HC & 1/2 baby sitter.

    Been retired full time for 4 years & had 6 years of part time work as a “scaffoldologist” in nuc power. That was fun for a gear head like me.

    Retirement is good, as long as it is on your own terms.

    Melt snow melt. Time to ride!

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    Bladepuller wrote:


    Retirement is good, as long as it is on your own terms.

    Melt snow melt. Time to ride!


    You have your own golf cart? :wink:

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    When I came home today, Mrs. Composer made a nice Lenten dinner of salmon, wild rice and Cole slaw. Oh, and champagne…
    [attachment=0]Dinner.JPG[/attachment]

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    D2D wrote:


    Bladepuller wrote:


    Retirement is good, as long as it is on your own terms.

    Melt snow melt. Time to ride!


    You have your own golf cart? :wink:

    Kinda. It is a golf cart on steroids. AKA A CanAm Defender HD10 so winch if you get too close to water hazards. :biggrin2:

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    Composer wrote:


    Tomorrow’s my big day. After 38 years in the adult workforce, I am retiring. I’m very happy to start this next stage, living off the fruits of my labor.

    Thanks everyone!

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    Bladepuller wrote:

    Retirement is good, as long as it is on your own terms.

    Melt snow melt. Time to ride!

    You’re retired? Seems to me you have been pretty busy the last few years in the “trades”.

    I saw a low rider on Hwy 100 on Wednesday. Gonna be difficult to keep it under wraps this weekend.

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    Sioux/Bucky Hater wrote:


    Bladepuller wrote:

    Retirement is good, as long as it is on your own terms.

    Melt snow melt. Time to ride!

    You’re retired? Seems to me you have been pretty busy the last few years in the “trades”.

    I saw a low rider on Hwy 100 on Wednesday. Gonna be difficult to keep it under wraps this weekend.

    Saw a couple hogs tonight. Brother saw a hog a week and change last Tue or so.

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    I had seen scattered bikes and 1 trike around Anoka Co.

    Then I talked to a guy in Grand Rapids Wed on a Wing b/4 my vaccine.

    [mention]Sioux/Bucky Hater[/mention] I will wait until we get some good cleansing rain before I fire up my Dyna. Tues / Wed has rain as the forecast. Wash that ice melt solution away. We are jonesing about getting out though.

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    Bladepuller wrote:


    I had seen scattered bikes and 1 trike around Anoka Co.

    Then I talked to a guy in Grand Rapids Wed on a Wing b/4 my vaccine.

    @Whioux/Bucky Hater I will wait until we get some good cleansing rain before I fire up my Dyna. Tues / Wed has rain as the forecast. Wash that ice melt solution away. We are jonesing about getting out though.

    The salt has been crazy the last couple weeks. I usually can get by with washing my car every other week or so during winter (depending on the aftermath of a snowfall), and it’s been once a week for the past month. Within a couple days, the buildup has been noticeable.

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    My truck (’15 F 150) has an aluminum body. After having to euthanize a 7.3 Superduty due to cancer I went with a “Gentlemans Truck”. I washed it 2 times so far.

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    I lost my old Wrangler (’99, bought in ’01, had it 16 years) to cancer. Not just body, but frame. I admit, I didn’t wash it enough.

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    [mention]The Rube[/mention] Rube

    Did it have a true body on frame or was it a unibody of formed sheet metal?

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    Bladepuller wrote:


    @The Rube Rube

    Did it have a true body on frame or was it a unibody of formed sheet metal?

    Uhhhhhhhhhhh………………………speaking Greek. The body had a little rust, but the frame was about 2 months from completely snapping on the driver’s side.

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    [mention]The Rube[/mention]

    Cars starting back in the early days of FWD went to Unibodys. No gap from “frame” to body. Body on frame there are mounts for motor / driveline that connect to frame rails that the cab / box or body bolt to.

    Mopar was building unibody cars in the 60s. Even Muscle Cars, Road Runners and Superbees IE.

    I’d bet you were dealing with a unibody.

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    Anyone else old enough to remember that it was common practice to take your vehicle to get “rustproofed” shortly after taking delivery? It was also a common add-on (profit maker) for dealers.

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    D2D wrote:


    Anyone else old enough to remember that it was common practice to take your vehicle to get “rustproofed” shortly after taking delivery? It was also a common add-on (profit maker) for dealers.

    I thought that was standard for snow-worthy states….I could be very wrong, though.

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    D2D wrote:


    Anyone else old enough to remember that it was common practice to take your vehicle to get “rustproofed” shortly after taking delivery? It was also a common add-on (profit maker) for dealers.

    Yup, that was a profit center for new car dealers. Rustproof and undercoating.

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    D2D wrote:


    Anyone else old enough to remember that it was common practice to take your vehicle to get “rustproofed” shortly after taking delivery? It was also a common add-on (profit maker) for dealers.

    Jerry: Well, he never done this before. But seeing as it’s special circumstances and all, he says I can knock a hundred dollars off that Trucoat.

    Customer: One hundred–You lied to me, Mr Lundegaard. You’re a bald-faced liar. A ****ing liar.

    Customer’s Wife: Bucky, please.

    Customer: Where’s my god damn check book? Let’s get this over with.

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    We do a ziebart undercoating on most of our vehicles. It has served us well thus far.

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    We do a ziebart undercoating on most of our vehicles. It has served us well thus far.


    I’m surprised they’re still in business.

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    D2D wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    We do a ziebart undercoating on most of our vehicles. It has served us well thus far.


    I’m surprised they’re still in business.

    I bought a Ford pickup made of aluminum. The same salesman that used to try sell me rustproofing now tried to sell me a $750 paint protection treatment. :lol:

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    D2D wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    We do a ziebart undercoating on most of our vehicles. It has served us well thus far.


    I’m surprised they’re still in business.


    Why?

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    Assuming regular washings it’s no longer necessary.

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    Norm wrote:


    D2D wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    We do a ziebart undercoating on most of our vehicles. It has served us well thus far.


    I’m surprised they’re still in business.

    I bought a Ford pickup made of aluminum. The same salesman that used to try sell me rustproofing now tried to sell me a $750 paint protection treatment. :lol:

    It’s those and the fancier extended warranties that cover all the computers in the car that aren’t covered under the regular warranty. When we bought our Murano in 2015 I had to spend over an hour with that guy before I finally wore down and took the offer at 80% less than where he started. I suspect he was ready to get rid of me when he asked why I didn’t want an extended warranty up to 120k miles and I responded ‘well if I ever have to use it I’m never buying another Nissan’

    We’re probably buying a new car sometime in 2021 (depending on the pandemic). I’m telling whatever guy that sells it that I’ll just walk away from the deal if they drag me in to try and sell me on some other add on. I don’t have the time or patience for that crap.

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    I tried to buy a vehicle today and they wanted $3K more than website sticker price. “You don’t qualify for the discounts that get you to that price.” We tried to talk them down $500 and they wouldn’t even take that. I think it took them by surprise when we got up and walked out, but they lost the sale.

    This was in WI and they claim they can legally advertise falsely like that online (I don’t know it that’s true or a line). As soon as he started the “I need to go talk to my manager” I was done. Why do car dealers all have to be so damn shady?! We were completely prepared to offer them the website price. Their loss.

    More of a pet peeve I guess. 😬

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    I tried to buy a vehicle today and they wanted $3K more than website sticker price. “You don’t qualify for the discounts that get you to that price.” We tried to talk them down $500 and they wouldn’t even take that. I think it took them by surprise when we got up and walked out, but they lost the sale.

    This was in WI and they claim they can legally advertise falsely like that online (I don’t know it that’s true or a line). As soon as he started the “I need to go talk to my manager” I was done. Why do car dealers all have to be so damn shady?! We were completely prepared to offer them the website price. Their loss.

    More of a pet peeve I guess. 😬

    THIS! I did all kinds of research when I bought my new car. I knew exactly what I wanted and exactly how much to pay for it. My husband drove me to the dealership and hung around just in case things didn’t work out. I had the classic, don’t look at me, look at my husband. Don’t answer my questions, direct the answers to my husband. He won’t seriously talk final price with me. Did this whole nonsense about payments when I was paying cash. Finally I got up, walked out and found a female salesperson. Came back to dealer #1 and said, you just lost a sale I’ll work with her.

    He turned to my husband with this bug eyed look and my husband said, you blew it. Her car. Her money. I’m just the ride. Bought the car from the woman. She just laughed. I paid cash and walked out with the keys. I waved to the guy as I got in the car :biggrin2:

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    Kelly Red wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    I tried to buy a vehicle today and they wanted $3K more than website sticker price. “You don’t qualify for the discounts that get you to that price.” We tried to talk them down $500 and they wouldn’t even take that. I think it took them by surprise when we got up and walked out, but they lost the sale.

    This was in WI and they claim they can legally advertise falsely like that online (I don’t know it that’s true or a line). As soon as he started the “I need to go talk to my manager” I was done. Why do car dealers all have to be so damn shady?! We were completely prepared to offer them the website price. Their loss.

    More of a pet peeve I guess. 😬

    THIS! I did all kinds of research when I bought my new car. I knew exactly what I wanted and exactly how much to pay for it. My husband drove me to the dealership and hung around just in case things didn’t work out. I had the classic, don’t look at me, look at my husband. Don’t answer my questions, direct the answers to my husband. He won’t seriously talk final price with me. Did this whole nonsense about payments when I was paying cash. Finally I got up, walked out and found a female salesperson. Came back to dealer #1 and said, you just lost a sale I’ll work with her.

    He turned to my husband with this bug eyed look and my husband said, you blew it. Her car. Her money. I’m just the ride. Bought the car from the woman. She just laughed. I paid cash and walked out with the keys. I waved to the guy as I got in the car :biggrin2:

    Good for you! I did let my hubby do most of the talking but knew they’d try to play on the fact it was for me. But we agreed on a price we wouldn’t go over and stuck to it. I was disappointed but it was quite satisfying to see them squirm and the disappoint on their faces when we left. Good luck to them, the vehicle has been on their lot for probably close to a year so I’m shocked they wouldn’t work with us.

    Of course the first thing out of the salesman’s mouth was “a doctor wanted to test drive it this morning but I told him no because you had an appointment and asked about the miles.” Mmmkay.

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    :lol: A doctor….WTF would be the reason to mention that?

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    I tried to buy a vehicle today and they wanted $3K more than website sticker price. “You don’t qualify for the discounts that get you to that price.” We tried to talk them down $500 and they wouldn’t even take that. I think it took them by surprise when we got up and walked out, but they lost the sale.

    This was in WI and they claim they can legally advertise falsely like that online (I don’t know it that’s true or a line). As soon as he started the “I need to go talk to my manager” I was done. Why do car dealers all have to be so damn shady?! We were completely prepared to offer them the website price. Their loss.

    More of a pet peeve I guess. 😬

    This is why I buy from CarTime. Their price is listed on the website. No haggling or negotiation. They are super easy to work with. When I got my new ride I told them I’d need X amount on my trade in to make it work. They gave me X amount on my trade in and I drove home in my new car.

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    davescharf wrote:


    Norm wrote:


    D2D wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    We do a ziebart undercoating on most of our vehicles. It has served us well thus far.


    I’m surprised they’re still in business.

    I bought a Ford pickup made of aluminum. The same salesman that used to try sell me rustproofing now tried to sell me a $750 paint protection treatment. :lol:

    It’s those and the fancier extended warranties that cover all the computers in the car that aren’t covered under the regular warranty. When we bought our Murano in 2015 I had to spend over an hour with that guy before I finally wore down and took the offer at 80% less than where he started. I suspect he was ready to get rid of me when he asked why I didn’t want an extended warranty up to 120k miles and I responded ‘well if I ever have to use it I’m never buying another Nissan’

    We’re probably buying a new car sometime in 2021 (depending on the pandemic). I’m telling whatever guy that sells it that I’ll just walk away from the deal if they drag me in to try and sell me on some other add on. I don’t have the time or patience for that crap.

    In Dec of 2019, we bought my wife a used Ford Edge, and the guy in the finance office would not take no for an answer on the extended warranty.

    You need to “protect your investment.” My investment? You mean this thing that is only going to depreciate rapidly as I drive it off the lot and further as I use it? This is a terrible investment. Then, if this breaks it will cost this much, it this breaks it will cost this much… Wait a minute, are you telling me all these things are going to break, maybe I don’t want it. And one of the things you just listed is specifically excluded in the tiny printed list down here…

    I told him, those guys are in the business of making money AND are giving you a cut to sell this. So they are banking on the fact that during their coverage period, they are very unlikely to payout more than the cost of the coverage plus the cut they are giving you. I am going to play the same odds. His final retort was that 98% of his car buyers are buying one, and he couldn’t believe a young family wouldn’t want peace of mind. I told him that I thought 98% of his car buyers were dumb with their money then. My wife got uncomfortable and left the room saying, lets just go somewhere else as she walked out which appeared the be the ticket as he finally back off after about 30-40 minutes of this.

    I guess when we got in the room and he found out we weren’t financing he decided to do the full-court press with the extended warranty.

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    I think that’s why we were given the run around yesterday and they wouldn’t accept our offer – because we weren’t going to finance with them. Nope, I can do way better than your 7% interest rate. (He seriously came at us with that to start.) And even if I let them pull my credit score (which is just shy of perfect) they couldn’t beat the offer we have from a local credit union.

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    I think that’s why we were given the run around yesterday and they wouldn’t accept our offer – because we weren’t going to finance with them. Nope, I can do way better than your 7% interest rate. (He seriously came at us with that to start.) And even if I let them pull my credit score (which is just shy of perfect) they couldn’t beat the offer we have from a local credit union.


    This is gold!

    We had a similar experience. Walked in with our own financing which they were not happy about. I think they ended up breaking and matching the rate we had from a credit union because we had a GM card. Little did they know after everything was about finalized we pulled out one more discount worth about 3k because we had a GM card. The looks on their faces!

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    I’ve only bought 2 vehicles from dealerships. First vehicle, first dealership, I said here’s the kind of vehicle I want, and here’s my budget. You can do that? You have a sale. “Well….I’ll have to talk to a manager about that…” NOPE. I walked. Second dealership, said the same thing…”Let’s sit down and work this out.” He got the sale.

    Second (current vehicle), did the same thing. Saleswoman flat out said, “We can work this out, let’s sit down.” And huh, it worked out. No haggling, no BS, outside the standard “Can you do anything on the price?”

    Obviously, in each of these situations, my budget was a little less than what it REALLY was, gotta have that wiggle room. Both times that a sale was actually made, there was no push from the salesperson. I approached with no BS, and they responded in kind.

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    GO4 wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    I think that’s why we were given the run around yesterday and they wouldn’t accept our offer – because we weren’t going to finance with them. Nope, I can do way better than your 7% interest rate. (He seriously came at us with that to start.) And even if I let them pull my credit score (which is just shy of perfect) they couldn’t beat the offer we have from a local credit union.


    This is gold!

    We had a similar experience. Walked in with our own financing which they were not happy about. I think they ended up breaking and matching the rate we had from a credit union because we had a GM card. Little did they know after everything was about finalized we pulled out one more discount worth about 3k because we had a GM card. The looks on their faces!

    We wanted to put a down payment on a credit card for miles points. They claimed they could only accept 2K that way or it would generate a fraud alert….and also there was apparently some kind of cashiers check scamming going on in the area. This sales guy was so full of lies it was almost comical. We found another option locally at Belzers and will see how it goes. Anyone have any experience with them?

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    GO4 wrote:


    Cowgirl wrote:


    I think that’s why we were given the run around yesterday and they wouldn’t accept our offer – because we weren’t going to finance with them. Nope, I can do way better than your 7% interest rate. (He seriously came at us with that to start.) And even if I let them pull my credit score (which is just shy of perfect) they couldn’t beat the offer we have from a local credit union.


    This is gold!

    We had a similar experience. Walked in with our own financing which they were not happy about. I think they ended up breaking and matching the rate we had from a credit union because we had a GM card. Little did they know after everything was about finalized we pulled out one more discount worth about 3k because we had a GM card. The looks on their faces!

    We wanted to put a down payment on a credit card for miles points. They claimed they could only accept 2K that way or it would generate a fraud alert….and also there was apparently some kind of cashiers check scamming going on in the area. This sales guy was so full of lies it was almost comical. We found another option locally at Belzers and will see how it goes. Anyone have any experience with them?

    Yeah, most car dealerships are only going to accept $500 or less on a Credit card as a hold I would guess. In my last 2 experiences, they would do more, but it triggered their 4.5% fee or something like that wiping out whatever the 1-2% points or miles would’ve been worth. I don’t think it has anything to do with fraud, a few years ago we put a $4,000 cruise package on a credit card without issue. I got an email from AmEx asking me to confirm later that day, but the charge went through initially just fine.

    Really though, a $500 credit card hold isn’t binding (unless you sign something saying it is). You could later challenge the charge if you walked away without buying and they refused to refund you.

    Cashier’s check scam… that’s a new one. It was literally the only way we could pay without their financing. When we used a credit union to buy a car they gave us a cashiers check to go get the car… That’s one way to get you I guess, you cannot pay for it in any form unless you finance through us.

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    Interestingly enough, I bought a car recently from Luther and they accepted a personal check. No haggling at all. Also no trade to deal. This is the second car I’ve bought from the Luther group. I’ve had positive experiences both times.

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    We are planners. A couple of years ago we were planning on building a new house. We always kept an eye out for deals for stuff we were going to need for our house. So when we saw something we needed on sale at Home Depot, Lowes, Best Buy etc, we would figure out the price and go buy gift cards at Hyvee so we could also get money off gas purchases. We also used a credit card to buy those gift cards that gave us 5% off purchases at grocery stores. It was a win win. We still do the same thing now, but to a lesser extent. When buying a car, we have a GM Card and build up money on that for added savings. As a farmer, I can rack up some big expenses, and I try to put things on cards as much as I can to get the bonus points. It only works if you pay off the credit card every month or otherwise it makes no sense.

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    We found another option locally at Belzers and will see how it goes. Anyone have any experience with them?


    I bought my truck (2015 Chevy Colorado) there. They proudly proclaim they are the largest Chevy dealer in the state, and their prices are typically as good or better than the competition.

    They lowballed me on my trade, and when I threatened to walk away from the deal, they reluctantly added $1000 to their offer. Of course, when I went to sign the paperwork on the purchase, it was typed up with the original offer – I had to threaten to walk away from the deal (again) before they would honor the negotiated trade-in. I went in preapproved from my credit union, but they got me a better rate, so I threw them that bone.

    A couple years later, my wife was in the market for a new car, and they had a Malibu Hybrid that she liked. They lowballed her on her trade, too. We did end up buying from them, but sold the car outright (to Apple Ford, who offered her $600 more than Belzer, even though we weren’t buying a car there).

    Based on our experience with them, we’ll never buy another car there.

    OBTW, their service department SUCKS.

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    Cowgirl wrote:


    We found another option locally at Belzers and will see how it goes. Anyone have any experience with them?


    I bought my truck (2015 Chevy Colorado) there. They proudly proclaim they are the largest Chevy dealer in the state, and their prices are typically as good or better than the competition.

    They lowballed me on my trade, and when I threatened to walk away from the deal, they reluctantly added $1000 to their offer. Of course, when I went to sign the paperwork on the purchase, it was typed up with the original offer – I had to threaten to walk away from the deal (again) before they would honor the negotiated trade-in. I went in preapproved from my credit union, but they got me a better rate, so I threw them that bone.

    A couple years later, my wife was in the market for a new car, and they had a Malibu Hybrid that she liked. They lowballed her on her trade, too. We did end up buying from them, but sold the car outright (to Apple Ford, who offered her $600 more than Belzer, even though we weren’t buying a car there).

    Based on our experience with them, we’ll never buy another car there.

    OBTW, their service department SUCKS.


    I will never buy from them based on how the owners have treated other small business owners and friends. Luther or Apple Auto is where I take my business.

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    North Country Ford in Coon Rapids is a Luther dealer and has treated us very well. The $$$ was right and service has been fine.

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    We bought one new car and used a TrueCar price through my work, so basically found what we wanted and printed that and brought it. Was simple to do, but not sure how good that price is or what it is tied to.

    We are likely going to be buying in the coming year and not looking forward to the process.

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    We bought one new car and used a TrueCar price through my work, so basically found what we wanted and printed that and brought it. Was simple to do, but not sure how good that price is or what it is tied to.

    We are likely going to be buying in the coming year and not looking forward to the process.

    When I bought my Altima in 2013 I told the guy who let me test drive the vehicle that he had first dibs on my business. I gave him a number that I said would work for me and not lead me to shop around for the best price. He said he couldn’t go that low even though I know it was a fair price.

    Then I called every Nissan dealer in town 3 days before month end and asked to speak to their Internet Sales Team. Those guys at the time were incentivized to on volume.

    Once I got quotes from those who gave them to me I then called each one back and told them the best offer I had and asked if they wanted to match it. I told them I’d make a decision in 36 hours regardless of whether they made a counter or not. Just before the deadline I got an offer that blew me away and when I compared it to TrueCar it was a pretty great deal too. A couple guys were pissed but they all know that a car is a commodity. Ironically I got it for about $2000 less than the offer made the first guy

    I’m sure the industry has changed a lot in those 7 years but cars are still commodities. If you have as much info as them you can be up front about what you’re doing to buy a car an ply them off another. If a dealership is really close to a monthly or quarterly sales goal they’ll give you a deal because the bonus they get from hitting the goal is well worth knocking a few grand off it for yours

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    Bought my current vehicle at Forest Lake Chevrolet. They have a 200 mile no questions asked return policy. Asked if I wanted to take it for a test drive. I confirmed the return policy, and then said, “I’ll drive it home. If I don’t like it, you’ll see me in about 90 minutes. If I like it, I will notify you in about 45 minutes.” :) They got a chuckle out of that.

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    gopherguy06 wrote:


    We bought one new car and used a TrueCar price through my work, so basically found what we wanted and printed that and brought it. Was simple to do, but not sure how good that price is or what it is tied to.

    We are likely going to be buying in the coming year and not looking forward to the process.

    When I bought my Altima in 2013 I told the guy who let me test drive the vehicle that he had first dibs on my business. I gave him a number that I said would work for me and not lead me to shop around for the best price. He said he couldn’t go that low even though I know it was a fair price.

    Then I called every Nissan dealer in town 3 days before month end and asked to speak to their Internet Sales Team. Those guys at the time were incentivized to on volume.

    Once I got quotes from those who gave them to me I then called each one back and told them the best offer I had and asked if they wanted to match it. I told them I’d make a decision in 36 hours regardless of whether they made a counter or not. Just before the deadline I got an offer that blew me away and when I compared it to TrueCar it was a pretty great deal too. A couple guys were pissed but they all know that a car is a commodity. Ironically I got it for about $2000 less than the offer made the first guy

    I’m sure the industry has changed a lot in those 7 years but cars are still commodities. If you have as much info as them you can be up front about what you’re doing to buy a car an ply them off another. If a dealership is really close to a monthly or quarterly sales goal they’ll give you a deal because the bonus they get from hitting the goal is well worth knocking a few grand off it for yours


    I’ll second this advice. I used a version of it when I traded in my truck for a new one. It really helps when you are not in any real pressure to buy a new vehicle (my old truck drove OK but the financing but the deals they’ve were offering were too good to pass up) but I understand not everyone may always be in that position. Last day of the month is key. I have purchased my last 3 vehicles on that day and have been satisfied with the outcome each time.

    [mention]davescharf[/mention] We are thinking about getting rid of our 2010 G37x for possibly a Volvo. In starting my research I came across a post of yours from 2013 about your then new Altima. What a coincidence!

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    That’s funny. I remember posting about it here back then though.

    I couldn’t really do it with our 2015 Murano because we were trying to replace a totaled car. I’d like to buy a car before this coming winter if I need to go back to the office…my Altima sucks in the winter weather and we just need a little bigger SUV

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    I bought a new vehicle in November and was able to secure a finance rate of 1.89%. I was prepared to pay cash on the entire purchase, minus the trade-in value, but I ended up financing roughly 40% of the purchase price, over four years. Would definitely call my 1.89% rate a “Simple Pleasure”! :yes:

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    So did you invest that cash somewhere you’ll get > 1.89%? I always lean towards no debt when possible.

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    So did you invest that cash somewhere you’ll get > 1.89%? I always lean towards no debt when possible.

    I agree on no debt. I think I’m about a year ahead on paying off my current vehicle. I hate owing money.

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    The 2 of the last 3 cars we purchased we did our research online and found Luther was the best price (one GMC and one Honda). They did not haggle. We even left to continue the look only to come back to Luther.

    They said they price low and go for profit by volume. They mentioned they get customers from Duluth and even Fargo from their online business.

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    My simple pleasure for today is a 7 pm hockey game that isn’t against the Kings. I didn’t think this day would come!

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    The 2 of the last 3 cars we purchased we did our research online and found Luther was the best price (one GMC and one Honda). They did not haggle. We even left to continue the look only to come back to Luther.

    They said they price low and go for profit by volume. They mentioned they get customers from Duluth and even Fargo from their online business.

    I think more and more places are doing that, because they realize that most don’t like to haggle (or are uncomfortable doing so) and if there IS wiggle room, that means they are over-pricing in the first place. So they just set a price, and rely on word of mouth for a bigger customer base….

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    The Rube wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    The 2 of the last 3 cars we purchased we did our research online and found Luther was the best price (one GMC and one Honda). They did not haggle. We even left to continue the look only to come back to Luther.

    They said they price low and go for profit by volume. They mentioned they get customers from Duluth and even Fargo from their online business.

    I think more and more places are doing that, because they realize that most don’t like to haggle (or are uncomfortable doing so) and if there IS wiggle room, that means they are over-pricing in the first place. So they just set a price, and rely on word of mouth for a bigger customer base….

    They said if they price high enough to haggle they won’t get those customers from greater MN. Those people will just click to the next site. Is that swipe left or right? :lol:

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    The Rube wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    The 2 of the last 3 cars we purchased we did our research online and found Luther was the best price (one GMC and one Honda). They did not haggle. We even left to continue the look only to come back to Luther.

    They said they price low and go for profit by volume. They mentioned they get customers from Duluth and even Fargo from their online business.

    I think more and more places are doing that, because they realize that most don’t like to haggle (or are uncomfortable doing so) and if there IS wiggle room, that means they are over-pricing in the first place. So they just set a price, and rely on word of mouth for a bigger customer base….

    They said if they price high enough to haggle they won’t get those customers from greater MN. Those people will just click to the next site. Is that swipe left or right? :lol:

    Of all the people on this board, you’re asking ME? lolololol :lol:

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    The Rube wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    The Rube wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    The 2 of the last 3 cars we purchased we did our research online and found Luther was the best price (one GMC and one Honda). They did not haggle. We even left to continue the look only to come back to Luther.

    They said they price low and go for profit by volume. They mentioned they get customers from Duluth and even Fargo from their online business.

    I think more and more places are doing that, because they realize that most don’t like to haggle (or are uncomfortable doing so) and if there IS wiggle room, that means they are over-pricing in the first place. So they just set a price, and rely on word of mouth for a bigger customer base….

    They said if they price high enough to haggle they won’t get those customers from greater MN. Those people will just click to the next site. Is that swipe left or right? :lol:

    Of all the people on this board, you’re asking ME? lolololol :lol:

    No. Not at all. It was a general question.

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    So we tried to buy a vehicle at belzers. They won’t hold it/take a down payment from us. Their way of pressuring us to finance through them. Also wouldn’t give a price…..so how are we supposed to know how much to get the check for…??

    After it takes us a few days to get the money in hand, if the vehicle is gone they will never get our business. I cannot believe how much dealers seem to not want me to buy a vehicle from them. Clearly they hate people who have their own financing.

    This has been so frustrating. :chainsaw: :censored:

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