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    I’ll take skjei, faber, Lindgren every time. Reedy was solid his last year and a half. Collins would have had a solid senior year.

    The gophers haven’t won a title in 20 years, and I can’t attribute that futility to NTDP.

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      The top handful of NTDP guys will likely be worth it. But once you get past them, getting the types of players who get plenty of ice time in prime spots on a junior team is probably a better investment.

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        I never said NTDP didn’t have good players come thru it. It’s often looked at as a sign of who is recruiting well. I was a bit surprised that not many NTDP alums are National Champions. Greg Carvel said he doesn’t even look at NTDP kids, could burn him, but looking at the last 10 years he could be right. The teams that have a lot of NTDP kids have often been the ones that have dissapointed.

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          glenhogan21 wrote:


          I never said NTDP didn’t have good players come thru it. It’s often looked at as a sign of who is recruiting well. I was a bit surprised that not many NTDP alums are National Champions. Greg Carvel said he doesn’t even look at NTDP kids, could burn him, but looking at the last 10 years he could be right. The teams that have a lot of NTDP kids have often been the ones that have dissapointed.

          To be fair I don’t think NTDP kids were looking at him either until the last 2-3 years.

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          Potential next Eichel leads Shattuck U14 to natty with 5 goal game.

          https://twitter.com/PuckPreps/status/1389261179244093444

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            Bonin21 wrote:


            Potential next Eichel leads Shattuck U14 to natty with 5 goal game.

            https://twitter.com/PuckPreps/status/1389261179244093444

            If this were 2017 he would’ve been committed two years ago😁

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              maroon_and_gold wrote:


              glenhogan21 wrote:


              I never said NTDP didn’t have good players come thru it. It’s often looked at as a sign of who is recruiting well. I was a bit surprised that not many NTDP alums are National Champions. Greg Carvel said he doesn’t even look at NTDP kids, could burn him, but looking at the last 10 years he could be right. The teams that have a lot of NTDP kids have often been the ones that have dissapointed.

              To be fair I don’t think NTDP kids were looking at him either until the last 2-3 years.

              Fair, but he found a way to land Makar, and Ferarro….

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              Makar was already committed when he got the job

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                Chris Peters is very impressed by Stramel:

                “He’s this massive human, but he can skate and has great soft-touch skills including a killer release. Then he’s impossible to move off the puck. The only time I’ve seen a player truly plant him was with a trip. There was one play where a German player attempted to hit him and bounced right off of Stramel, who barely moved. The Minnesota native still hasn’t picked his NCAA destination, but this guy is one of the most unique prospects I have seen come through the NTDP.”

                Worth watch HockeyTV this month to get a glimpse.

                https://twitter.com/evegoe/status/1389291368502022146

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                So yes, you go for him no matter who you have lined up.

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                  glenhogan21 wrote:

                  Interesting that in last 6 NCAA championships teams I think only 3 total NTDP alums: Joey Anderson, Shane Gersich, Will Butcher. Michigan has historically recruited program best since in their backyard. Only championship team was 1998, which I think was mostly Canadian and not yet heavy on NTDP. Maybe loading up on those kids isn’t a good idea, as tempting as they are.

                  This assumes:

                  1. The best team is the one that wins the national championship

                  2. The issue with those teams is the relatively small percentage of NTDP players they have and not the majority of players that make up the rest of the roster.

                  I’d say both of those assumptions are rarely true.

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                  Yea, the NTDP is putting 25 or so players into the D-1 ranks versus far greater numbers from the big feeder systems. Bit of a misnomer to to just list the raw number without further scrutiny.

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                    I remember hearing someone say that Stramel would come in fall 2023. Does that mean he can’t commit until August 1st? How old is he?

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                    maroon_and_gold wrote:


                    I remember hearing someone say that Stramel would come in fall 2023. Does that mean he can’t commit until August 1st? How old is he?

                    DOB 10/15/04

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                    maroon_and_gold wrote:


                    I remember hearing someone say that Stramel would come in fall 2023. Does that mean he can’t commit until August 1st? How old is he?


                    To answer the question yes, unless he accelerates to be a senior in the fall before then.

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                      The super quick release on this goal from Stramel a couple of days back really stood out to me:

                      https://twitter.com/eliteprospects/status/1388675733321510915

                      This is also an impressive group to be a member of:

                      https://twitter.com/coreypronman/status/1386418557718712320

                      I really hope that we land him.

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                        Bonin21 wrote:


                        maroon_and_gold wrote:


                        I remember hearing someone say that Stramel would come in fall 2023. Does that mean he can’t commit until August 1st? How old is he?


                        To answer the question yes, unless he accelerates to be a senior in the fall before then.

                        Ah, so he hasn’t received any offers yet then…………..wink.

                        Kids gonna have a full voicemail on August 1st that’s for sure.

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                          [media]https://twitter.com/evegoe/status/1390699336296648712[/media]

                          Pretty good group of Minnesota forwards in this year’s group of invites.

                          Sounds like Zam Plante has an invite to join the 04 group if he wants to make the move.

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                          Plante got the invite over Clark?

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                          Carsen Musser (G) and Cameron Briere (apparently played at least mites for Stillwater) also marked as Minnesotans on the list.

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                          Get the Hendrickson kid, Bob!!

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                          Get the best players, Bob

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                            Bonin21 wrote:


                            Carsen Musser (G) and Cameron Briere (apparently played at least mites for Stillwater) also marked as Minnesotans on the list.

                            Musser played at Fairmont through his freshman season, then moved to play AAA.

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                              Plante got the invite over Clark?

                              Clark got to play some USNTDP games at the end of the year — I don’t have any steam on it, but you’d think he’d have a spot waiting if he wanted one.

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                                Bonin21 wrote:


                                Plante got the invite over Clark?

                                Clark got to play some USNTDP games at the end of the year — I don’t have any steam on it, but you’d think he’d have a spot waiting if he wanted one.

                                Can you share where you are reading the news about Plante’s invite? I’m not finding that info anywhere. I’m also now wondering how many times it has happened where someone joins the U18 team after not even receiving an invite to the U17 evaluation camp with their birth year.

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                                  DreamLoss wrote:


                                  Vegoe wrote:


                                  Bonin21 wrote:


                                  Plante got the invite over Clark?

                                  Clark got to play some USNTDP games at the end of the year — I don’t have any steam on it, but you’d think he’d have a spot waiting if he wanted one.

                                  Can you share where you are reading the news about Plante’s invite? I’m not finding that info anywhere. I’m also now wondering how many times it has happened where someone joins the U18 team after not even receiving an invite to the U17 evaluation camp with their birth year.

                                  Happened with 03 Andre Gasseau and 02 Zakary Karpa, plus 00 Jon Mor. Seems like an annual thing they’re doing at this point.

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                                    YHH article with a little info on each of the 11 players with Minnesota ties at the NTDP tryouts.

                                    https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/1163347

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                                      https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1395771392797327363?s=21

                                      I think we have a solid chance at landing at least a couple of the MN forwards.

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                                      younggopherdiehard wrote:


                                      https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1395771392797327363?s=21

                                      I think we have a solid chance at landing at least a couple of the MN forwards.

                                      I’m always a sucker with a “road less traveled” story for a player to be noticed. I think it will be interesting to follow the development of goalie Carsen Musser from Sherburn. Played at Fairmont high school and then headed to Detroit to play midget hockey. Stumbled across this ARTICLE with a lot of information on the kid.

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                                        Iceburg wrote:


                                        younggopherdiehard wrote:


                                        https://twitter.com/usahockeyntdp/status/1395771392797327363?s=21

                                        I think we have a solid chance at landing at least a couple of the MN forwards.

                                        I’m always a sucker with a “road less traveled” story for a player to be noticed. I think it will be interesting to follow the development of goalie Carsen Musser from Sherburn. Played at Fairmont high school and then headed to Detroit to play midget hockey. Stumbled across this ARTICLE with a lot of information on the kid.

                                        Should be noted this is the first time the NTDP has brought in three goalies, or at least the first since I started following them.

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                                        For lack of a better thread, the YHH did some research on select birth years with respect to playing/not playing for the NTDP. Nothing earth shattering came of it but here you go: https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/1163772” class=”bbcode_url”>https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/1163772

                                        Among a few other items:

                                        The following are a few numbers of note detailing data found from the 1995 to 2002 classes of Top MN players that played/did not play for the NTDP.

                                        TOTAL # MN Invited – 66

                                        AVG # MN Players Invited Per Year – 8.25

                                        TOTAL # MN not Invited (Drafted/UFA) – 59

                                        MN NTDP Players World Juniors U20 – 18

                                        MN Non-NTDP Players World Juniors U20 – 12

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                                          I believe Grant Potulny’s son was drafted by Fargo in the USHL Draft last night. Jackson Potulny.

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                                          younggopherdiehard wrote:


                                          I believe Grant Potulny’s son was drafted by Fargo in the USHL Draft last night. Jackson Potulny.

                                          Must be, ninth grader this past season at Marquette high school.

                                          https://www.mihshockeyhub.com/roster_players/42789758?subseason=712331

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                                          If you want a little more info on these players…..

                                          https://teamusa.usahockey.com/2021hlinkaroster

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                                            August 1st approaching. Think we see a handful of commits? Who are top targets? I would like to see Oliver Moore, Sam Rinzel, Jimmy Clark.

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                                              Clark is the big one imo. In the unlikely chance that the bulldogs don’t get Plante, that would be huge.

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                                              My wild, uninformed guess would be Clark is the next commit. Seems defenseman for next year also on the radar.

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                                              Interesting read from Schlossman.

                                              ”College hockey’s commitment period for high school juniors opens on Sunday”

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                                                Let’s get Clark and steal Shaugabay from hawk country.

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                                                  Whitelaw seems like he’ll pick Wisconsin.

                                                  Rinzel and Moore would be top of my wish list. Well Zam Plante would be #1 if it was at all realistic.

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                                                    Let the games begin…

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                                                      Zam to UMD as expected.

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                                                        This leaves Clark and Rinzel. Possibly whitelaw and moore as well. I’m confident we’ll get 2-3 out of those 4.

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                                                          Inside knowledge or just confidence in Bob’s recruiting?

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                                                            These are two forwards I’m keeping an eye on too.

                                                            Landen Gunderson – MG

                                                            Sam Ranallo – Rogers

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                                                              Confidence no inside knowledge. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Bobby Brink is going to transfer here though :ahhh: :wink:

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                                                                younggopherdiehard wrote:


                                                                Let’s get Clark and steal Shaugabay from hawk country.

                                                                Looks like someone else stole him

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                                                                thebigbaron wrote:


                                                                younggopherdiehard wrote:


                                                                Let’s get Clark and steal Shaugabay from hawk country.

                                                                Looks like someone else stole him

                                                                It would be nice for you to provide the information rather than just throw the statement out for everyone to guess and research independently.

                                                                Jayson Shaugabay to UMD

                                                                https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/sports/hockey/7136175-UMD-mens-hockey-Warroads-leading-scorer-Shaugabay-commits-to-Bulldogs

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                                                                  It was posted (Shaugabay commitment) on the opponent recruiting thread around 9am this morning. Figured that was sufficient…since it was somewhat surprising…left it at that. I’m sure some folks on SS are a bit surprised…

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                                                                    I’m surprised the likes of Clark and Whitelaw are taking this long to commit. I’m all about taking your time and talking it through with parents and whatnot, I think it’s the most prudent way to go about it, I’m just genuinely surprised. I figured Clark, Rinzel, Moore and Whitelaw would be off the table after August 1st or 2nd.

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                                                                    I wonder if some are holding off out of respect for Motzko as he grieves a tragedy. No need to rush things at this time.

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                                                                      That was my assumption as well. If they were considering the gophers at all, I can see them being respectful and waiting a bit longer for their conversation with tBob as he handles an unbelievably tough situation.

                                                                      I’d take it as a good sign that we are in the running for a least a few of the players mentioned.

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                                                                      younggopherdiehard wrote:


                                                                      That was my assumption as well. If they were considering the gophers at all, I can see them being respectful and waiting a bit longer for their conversation with tBob as he handles an unbelievably tough situation.

                                                                      I’d take it as a good sign that we are in the running for a least a few of the players mentioned.

                                                                      That’s probably true, but it would be tough to decide how long to wait to resume.

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                                                                        Im sure the coaches have a very good idea of who is committing, maybe they just are holding off on announcement.

                                                                        Last year was very different because some kids had committed prior to change. Who was our first commit last year? Brody Lamb in October?

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                                                                          glenhogan21 wrote:


                                                                          Im sure the coaches have a very good idea of who is committing, maybe they just are holding off on announcement.

                                                                          Last year was very different because some kids had committed prior to change. Who was our first commit last year? Brody Lamb in October?

                                                                          The tragic circumstances relating to the car accident…has obviously pushed back any commitment announcements for the time being (which is very understandable). Offers have likely been made…but we probably won’t hear much on this front until early September. Just a horrible situation for the families of the two deceased young men…

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                                                                            Sam Rinzel to the U, per his Twitter

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                                                                              Sam Rinzel to the U, per his Twitter

                                                                              What do we know about him?

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                                                                                Rau4SkiUMah wrote:


                                                                                thebigbaron wrote:


                                                                                Sam Rinzel to the U, per his Twitter

                                                                                What do we know about him?

                                                                                Big defenseman out of Chaska, looked solid recently at the Hlinka, good development trajectory

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                                                                                  I am not a follower of high school players. But it seems like the Gophers have missed out on most of the big names listed as potential early commits.

                                                                                  That’s not a good sign.

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                                                                                    I’m not worried about that. Whitelaw always seemed like a Wisconsin player, he’s good but there are plenty of other top kids. Motzko and staff also very good at finding less heralded players. Lacombe was not a big name before he commuted.

                                                                                    Oliver Moore, Jimmy Clark, and Gracyn Sawchyn all still in play. I don’t know much about Beckett Hendrickson, but he did make NTDP.

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                                                                                    Still early in the process. Plante and Shaugabay were also long shots. Imagine the staff is also not going too heavy on young commits given their desire to mix and match with more seasoned late bloomers.

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                                                                                      I think we have a very good shot at Moore, Clark and Hendricks which would be a very good trio if we were to get all three. Bob has not lost many recruiting battles for players he’s really wanted. Our staff is very good at selling our program to these kids.

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                                                                                        Bertogliat wrote:


                                                                                        I am not a follower of high school players. But it seems like the Gophers have missed out on most of the big names listed as potential early commits.

                                                                                        That’s not a good sign.

                                                                                        Shaugabay and Whitelaw are the only two “misses”. I’m not worried at all. The guys I believe we’re likely after (Clark, Moore) are still available plus we got Rinzel. Very confident in Bob.

                                                                                        Also not counting Plante and Hanson as misses because, well, obvious reasons.

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                                                                                          I’m not sure Shaugabay is a miss. He hasn’t produced as well against top competition. Sounds like effort and details in game were big factor in not making NTDP. We have seen too many guys like that in past. I think Motzko is disciplined recruiting to the identify he wants.

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                                                                                            I agree. shaugabay may turn into a stud, but I wasn’t upset that we didn’t land him. Whitelaw is more of a “miss” at this point but like others have said, it seems like we likely never had a shot.

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                                                                                              glenhogan21 wrote:


                                                                                              I’m not sure Shaugabay is a miss. He hasn’t produced as well against top competition. Sounds like effort and details in game were big factor in not making NTDP. We have seen too many guys like that in past. I think Motzko is disciplined recruiting to the identify he wants.

                                                                                              I agree. I just didn’t wanna play the “we didn’t want him anyway” card.

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                                                                                              For the last decade under Lucia the Gophers got almost every early commit possible, and where did it get them?

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                                                                                              Cardinal wrote:


                                                                                              For the last decade under Lucia the Gophers got almost every early commit possible, and where did it get them?

                                                                                              To be fair, for much of that time Lucia was only recruiting kids who’s homes he could walk to in 15 minutes or less. Scott Bell started to change things at the end, but it was too late.

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                                                                                                For the last decade under Lucia the Gophers got almost every early commit possible, and where did it get them?

                                                                                                Right with you Cardinal Country Clomp… I think the key for Motzko is clearly finding the balance between landing the fancy Cadillacs and slightly used F-150s. This year’s incoming class has the fancy young 18-year-old players like Lucius, Knies and Broz. It’s also got a player who has patiently developed in Pitlick and someone who has had to battle a lot of adversity to get back to playing at a high level in Huglen. Boyton is the perfect type of goalie recruit as the top uncommitted 20-year-old USHL goalie to sign midyear.

                                                                                                As impressive as Michigan’s freshman and sophomore class is for this season, they are still going to be a roster dominated by younger players and that has rarely worked out to NCAA Titles. Now it’s a lot of fun to watch, but if someone can find the last team to have a roster like that and win it all… please let me know.

                                                                                                I was kind of doing a brief look at the Gophers roster this year to see how their average age compares to past rosters and their defensemen are still so young compared to the rest of college hockey, but at least they’re experienced. Their top D Johnson, LaCombe, Koster. Faber. Staudacher and Brinkman are still just going to be an average age of 20.5 years-old when puck drops in October. Keep in mind the oldest college hockey rosters are usually like 22-yr-olds and the youngest average are 20-yr-olds at the start of the season.

                                                                                                The forwards look like they going to be an average of around 21-year-olds in October — so things are getting a little more mature there.

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                                                                                                  Exactly. Michigan is built to win hockey games but not playoff games. With that much skill though they’re obviously more than capable of making a run. It will be interstate to see…

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                                                                                                  maroon_and_gold wrote:


                                                                                                  Exactly. Michigan is built to win hockey games but not playoff games. With that much skill though they’re obviously more than capable of making a run. It will be interstate to see…

                                                                                                  Can’t wait to see if they take too many TOs in the NCAA final game which will cost them a championship.

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