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    Names are starting to leak..See below…

    Before side deals are announced, and before all picks have been leaked, I don’t think Seattle came away nearly as strong as Vegas did. Better handle of it later.

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    I was really hoping to avoid spoilers and just watch the chaos tonight. I guess I’m going to go media silent the rest of the day. My bad.

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    Snowcool08 wrote:


    I was really hoping to avoid spoilers and just watch the chaos tonight. I guess I’m going to go media silent the rest of the day. My bad.

    Sorry. I now hid the content to not spoil it for others..

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    No surprise Seattle took Soucy, he’s a solid NHL level D & not that expensive .

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    No surprise Seattle took Soucy, he’s a solid NHL level D & not that expensive .

    And now that once vaunted defense, which is pretty much all they had for years, is gutted.

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    I think it’s a slight surprise with a potential (future) number one goalie (Kahkonen) available (with a next to nothing contract), but Seattle is obviously putting its faith in Driedger and Vanecek.

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    Not the smoothest tv production of the expansion draft by new tv partner ESPN.

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    frozen4champs wrote:


    Not the smoothest tv production of the expansion draft by new tv partner ESPN.

    Do you mean they cut over to Stephen A Smith on some kind of rant until they realized it wasn’t a basketball show?

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    frozen4champs wrote:


    Snowcool08 wrote:


    I was really hoping to avoid spoilers and just watch the chaos tonight. I guess I’m going to go media silent the rest of the day. My bad.

    Sorry. I now hid the content to not spoil it for others..


    Wasn’t your fault. There were spoilers abound apparently.

    Looks like a lot of GMs learned their lesson from last time and just lost a player instead of giving picks to Seattle to take someone else.

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    2014 Frozen Four Gopher killer Gostisbehere traded with 2 draft picks to Arizona for “future considerations”. The Coyotes now have added 2 high salary pieces and 5 draft picks in exchange for basically nothing.

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    Seattle’s first NHL regular season game at Vegas

    https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-kraken-home-opener-october-23-against-vancouver-canucks/c-325721588

    Home opener vs. Vancouver (10/23). The NHL is going to push hard for a Vancouver/Seattle rivalry.

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    gator wrote:


    gopher6 wrote:


    Seattle’s first NHL regular season game at Vegas

    https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-kraken-home-opener-october-23-against-vancouver-canucks/c-325721588

    Home opener vs. Vancouver (10/23). The NHL is going to push hard for a Vancouver/Seattle rivalry.

    Vancouver would seem more natural.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    gator wrote:


    gopher6 wrote:


    Seattle’s first NHL regular season game at Vegas

    https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-kraken-home-opener-october-23-against-vancouver-canucks/c-325721588

    Home opener vs. Vancouver (10/23). The NHL is going to push hard for a Vancouver/Seattle rivalry.

    Vancouver would seem more natural.


    Yes, just the NHL will put their hands in it and not just let it happen naturally.

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    Buffalo picks up another 1st round pick, #13, from Philly. That is around the Lucius projected area.

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    Arizona trades Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Conor Garland to Canucks for Beagle, Eriksson, Roussel and 9th overall pick. Waiting for Vancouver to unload Schmidt now.

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    Seth Jones traded to the Blackhawks

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    One of the centers the Wild were interested in appears to be going to Florida.

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    Columbus is really cleaning out players.

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    Steve MN wrote:


    frozen4champs wrote:


    [media]https://twitter.com/walsha/status/1420052617464483843[/media]

    https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1420050959430991883

    Could this have been a loop hole for the Wild to rid themselves of either Parise or Suter contracts?

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    Steve MN wrote:


    frozen4champs wrote:


    [media]https://twitter.com/walsha/status/1420052617464483843[/media]

    https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1420050959430991883

    Could this have been a loop hole for the Wild to rid themselves of either Parise or Suter contracts?

    Guessing Fleury didn’t have a NMC in the contract

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    Steve MN wrote:


    frozen4champs wrote:


    [media]https://twitter.com/walsha/status/1420052617464483843[/media]

    https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1420050959430991883

    Could this have been a loop hole for the Wild to rid themselves of either Parise or Suter contracts?

    Guessing Fleury didn’t have a NMC in the contract

    I think the front loading of their contracts made this result impossible for the Wild.

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    I kinda doubt Fleury wants to retire so that whole saga is interesting. Could maybe see him come back to Pittsburgh.

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    Happy Free Agent day. Couple of notes so far.. Mikey Reilly re-signs with the Bruins, 3 years at 3m per year.

    Nate Schmidt could be moved to Winnipeg today.

    Tampa doing Tampa things by trading Tyler Johnson and a pick to Chicago for the contract of retired player Seabrook.

    [media]https://twitter.com/PuckPedia/status/1420208615227490305[/media]

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    It appears Suter will sign with Dallas

    4 years at 3 mill a year

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    Parise to Islanders seems to be a done deal.

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    It appears Suter will sign with Dallas

    4 years at 3 mill a year

    He choose the 💰which he has every right to. But…I think Stars shot at a SC next 3-4 years is far less than Isles or Bruins who evidently at least had some interest in Suter ☝️

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    bearpaw28 wrote:


    frozen4champs wrote:


    It appears Suter will sign with Dallas

    4 years at 3 mill a year

    He choose the 💰which he has every right to. But…I think Stars shot at a SC next 3-4 years is far less than Isles or Bruins who evidently at least had some interest in Suter ☝️

    Goligoski gets $5M while Suter gets $3M. I know there is an age difference of a few years, but Suter scores a lot more than Goligoski. Is Goli THAT much better on the defensive side than Suter?

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    bearpaw28 wrote:


    frozen4champs wrote:


    It appears Suter will sign with Dallas

    4 years at 3 mill a year

    He choose the 💰which he has every right to. But…I think Stars shot at a SC next 3-4 years is far less than Isles or Bruins who evidently at least had some interest in Suter ☝️

    Goligoski gets $5M while Suter gets $3M. I know there is an age difference of a few years, but Suter scores a lot more than Goligoski. Is Goli THAT much better on the defensive side than Suter?

    No, but there’s a reason it was one year. Come early January he likely signs an extension in which he’ll get paid $1-2M a year. If things are going well, of course.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    bearpaw28 wrote:


    frozen4champs wrote:


    It appears Suter will sign with Dallas

    4 years at 3 mill a year

    He choose the 💰which he has every right to. But…I think Stars shot at a SC next 3-4 years is far less than Isles or Bruins who evidently at least had some interest in Suter ☝️

    Goligoski gets $5M while Suter gets $3M. I know there is an age difference of a few years, but Suter scores a lot more than Goligoski. Is Goli THAT much better on the defensive side than Suter?

    I’d argue Goli is better & will score more offensively this season & that Suter was decent defensively but starting to slip. But.. the bottom line… is BG didn’t want Suters entitled attitude & mouth in the Wild locker room & that’s why he’s gone…

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    Goli had 22 points in 56 games last season, has been mostly healthy since 2013-14 and averages around 23 TOI. Suter had 19 points in 56 games with roughly similar games played since 2014 and had 22 TOI last season – by far his lowest in more than a decade. Seems like a wash there and if Goli is a better locker room guy? Obviously speculation on my part.

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    Wow. Grubauer to SEA. Avs need a goalie.

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    Goli had 22 points in 56 games last season, has been mostly healthy since 2013-14 and averages around 23 TOI. Suter had 19 points in 56 games with roughly similar games played since 2014 and had 22 TOI last season – by far his lowest in more than a decade. Seems like a wash there and if Goli is a better locker room guy? Obviously speculation on my part.

    True, but year over year Goli averages about 24-32 points while Suter is in the 47-50 points range.

    Last season, Suter had fewer PPG, so maybe he hit a wall….but still similar to Goli.

    Maybe this is an agreement for Goligoski to get paid up front with contract extensions for less money next year. But that sounds like something that wouldn’t be allowed.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


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    Goli had 22 points in 56 games last season, has been mostly healthy since 2013-14 and averages around 23 TOI. Suter had 19 points in 56 games with roughly similar games played since 2014 and had 22 TOI last season – by far his lowest in more than a decade. Seems like a wash there and if Goli is a better locker room guy? Obviously speculation on my part.

    True, but year over year Goli averages about 24-32 points while Suter is in the 47-50 points range.

    Last season, Suter had fewer PPG, so maybe he hit a wall….but still similar to Goli.

    Maybe this is an agreement for Goligoski to get paid up front with contract extensions for less money next year. But that sounds like something that wouldn’t be allowed.

    Get over it regarding Suter. His best days are in the rear view mirror. He can still play, but he got points in earlier years because he was on the 1st PP unit. So was Koivu. That’s ain’t happening for Suter going forward in Dallas. Goli will see PP time for the Wild

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    Slap Shot wrote:


    Goli had 22 points in 56 games last season, has been mostly healthy since 2013-14 and averages around 23 TOI. Suter had 19 points in 56 games with roughly similar games played since 2014 and had 22 TOI last season – by far his lowest in more than a decade. Seems like a wash there and if Goli is a better locker room guy? Obviously speculation on my part.

    True, but year over year Goli averages about 24-32 points while Suter is in the 47-50 points range.

    Yeah but I think those days are long past for Ryan. Obviously anything can happen but these 2 look to be on similar trajectories and I’m not sure this season should reflect a dropoff in swapping these 2. Time will tell.

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    bearpaw28 wrote:


    Bertogliat wrote:


    Slap Shot wrote:


    Goli had 22 points in 56 games last season, has been mostly healthy since 2013-14 and averages around 23 TOI. Suter had 19 points in 56 games with roughly similar games played since 2014 and had 22 TOI last season – by far his lowest in more than a decade. Seems like a wash there and if Goli is a better locker room guy? Obviously speculation on my part.

    True, but year over year Goli averages about 24-32 points while Suter is in the 47-50 points range.

    Last season, Suter had fewer PPG, so maybe he hit a wall….but still similar to Goli.

    Maybe this is an agreement for Goligoski to get paid up front with contract extensions for less money next year. But that sounds like something that wouldn’t be allowed.

    Get over it regarding Suter. His best days are in the rear view mirror. He can still play, but he got points in earlier years because he was on the 1st PP unit. So was Koivu. That’s ain’t happening for Suter going forward in Dallas. Goli will see PP time for the Wild

    I’m over Suter. I’m just trying to reconcile the $5M Goligoski got when Suter signed for $3M. I get that you love the Goligoski signing.

    I’m still trying to figure out if Guerin is a genius or a complete idiot.

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    Bertogliat wrote:


    Slap Shot wrote:


    Goli had 22 points in 56 games last season, has been mostly healthy since 2013-14 and averages around 23 TOI. Suter had 19 points in 56 games with roughly similar games played since 2014 and had 22 TOI last season – by far his lowest in more than a decade. Seems like a wash there and if Goli is a better locker room guy? Obviously speculation on my part.

    True, but year over year Goli averages about 24-32 points while Suter is in the 47-50 points range.

    Last season, Suter had fewer PPG, so maybe he hit a wall….but still similar to Goli.

    Maybe this is an agreement for Goligoski to get paid up front with contract extensions for less money next year. But that sounds like something that wouldn’t be allowed.

    Russo suggested there might be a $2M extension happening for 2022-23 on Jan. 1, but that wouldn’t work cap wise for AAV to make official today. Goli could always sign somewhere else for more next year if it doesn’t seem like a good fit too.

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    Alex was born in 1985 like Suter. I get the buyouts, I don’t get giving Alex 5 million, even for one season.

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    Wow. Grubauer to SEA. Avs need a goalie.

    Saw on the Tweeters they are trading for Darcy Kuemper.

    Quick, [mention]gopherguy13[/mention] work your magic 🤣🤣

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    Beauner wrote:


    YoungEagle wrote:


    Wow. Grubauer to SEA. Avs need a goalie.

    Saw on the Tweeters they are trading for Darcy Kuemper.

    Quick, @gopherguy13 work your magic 🤣🤣

    Now they just need to resign Dubnyk

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    Beauner wrote:


    YoungEagle wrote:


    Wow. Grubauer to SEA. Avs need a goalie.

    Saw on the Tweeters they are trading for Darcy Kuemper.

    Quick, @gopherguy13 work your magic 🤣🤣

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/dfIQG68floQuY/giphy.gif?cid=790b76117aa2667b9bba186dfbc10b6bb827a9687a7908af&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g" />

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    Beauner wrote:


    YoungEagle wrote:


    Wow. Grubauer to SEA. Avs need a goalie.

    Saw on the Tweeters they are trading for Darcy Kuemper.

    Quick, @gopherguy13 work your magic 🤣🤣

    The Aves gave up their 1st round pick in 2022 as part of the deal. They obviously needed a goalie badly and Phoenix knew it.

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    I like the trade…since I don’t see Kuemper being the type of #1 goalie the Avs (or any team) needs to hoist a Stanley Cup.

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    I like the trade…since I don’t see Kuemper being the type of #1 goalie the Avs (or any team) needs to hoist a Stanley Cup.

    And the Wild are always in his head which cause him to melt down.

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    LOL…CP can sure pick Stanley Cup contenders!

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    Blatant grab for another Cup for The Worm. I totally get it.

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    Blatant grab for another Cup for The Worm. I totally get it.

    ⚡️Lost their entire 3rd line, the Grind Line…which started every period in the SC playoffs past 2 years…one to Rangers, one to Flames, one to Kraken…all got PAID with LT contracts. But TB will contend for a 3 peat no doubt! And their GM is THE master SALARY CAP manipulator (trading Tyler Johnson & his $5mil cap hit for Brent Seabrook who is on LTIR Ccntract & accordingly getting 6.875 in over the CAP (exception) relief☝️

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    Evander Kane is being accused of betting on NHL games. The NHL is now investigating.

    [media]https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1421600799709437952[/media]

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    His wife says he’s bet on Sharks games. Guys, don’t treat your wife badly seriously. :mrgreen:

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    His wife says he’s bet on Sharks games. Guys, don’t treat your wife badly seriously. :mrgreen:

    It’s going to get ugly

    https://detroitsportsnation.com/evander-kanes-wife-calls-him-out-for-throwing-own-games/wgbrady/nhl/07/31/2021/254858/

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    Sabres pull the captainancy from Eichel. This situation is about to get more interesting…

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    Sabres pull the captainancy from Eichel. This situation is about to get more interesting…

    https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/32262693/buffalo-sabres-center-jack-eichel-fails-physical-stripped-captaincy

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    Do we know why hockey is the only sport it matters who is captain? Doesn’t seem to matter one bit in any other sport but apparently is newsworthy in hockey.

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    ddillon22 wrote:


    Do we know why hockey is the only sport it matters who is captain? Doesn’t seem to matter one bit in any other sport but apparently is newsworthy in hockey.

    Captains in hockey have more responsibilities than other sports from what I can see.

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    Well, 2 of the 4 major sports just straight up don’t even have captains, right? Baseball and basketball? And in the NFL they have a bunch of different captains on different units of the team. So I think with hockey it’s much more of a distinctive honor than it is in football, and thus, newsworthy when it gets taken away.

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    Do we know why hockey is the only sport it matters who is captain? Doesn’t seem to matter one bit in any other sport but apparently is newsworthy in hockey.

    No fans should give 2 poops outside of it may show some internal friction in cases like this.

    For some teams the C is a hop on my back type leader (Grant Potulny), others it is experience and respect (Koivu), and on others it is top talent. None of this really should matter to fans. But boy do hockey fans seem to have opinions about it.

    I have no idea who are the Vikings captains, nor do I care.

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    What is the Role of a Captain in Hockey? The main role of a captain is to speak to the referees when they call penalties, or for interpretations of rules. Then they carry those messages to the bench for the coaches to hear—the captain of the team is the only player allowed to do this.

    https://www.purehockey.com/c/what-do-the-a-and-the-c-stand-for-on-hockey-jerseys

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    lets hear your stanley cup pick i have the lanche against the panthers

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    Quote:

    What is the Role of a Captain in Hockey? The main role of a captain is to speak to the referees when they call penalties, or for interpretations of rules. Then they carry those messages to the bench for the coaches to hear—the captain of the team is the only player allowed to do this.

    https://www.purehockey.com/c/what-do-the-a-and-the-c-stand-for-on-hockey-jerseys

    They should also be the leaders in the locker room.

    A friend of mine who has worked at the X during Wild games since the beginning and knows a lot of the behind the scenes people told me one of the captains, Mikko I believe, once casually asked a valet driver if everyone everyone had been good to him and were good tippers. He then addressed those who were not tipping and told them to go make up for it.

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    It sounds like the NHL will be emphasizing the cross checking penalty this season. I have been hoping this would happen for a long time and can’t believe it has taken so long; in fact I went on a rant a few years ago on here regarding this. For all the effort that has gone into adding offense, making the D play somewhat honest in front of the net is a simple solution. It is too easy to cover someone if all it takes is turning them inside-out the second before the puck arrives. I also think it is will have a significant impact on player safety. All this assumes it actually changes and stays. I don’t have high hopes but it is easy enough to see/call.

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    I don’t believe it for one second. We’ll see an uptick in calls for the first few weeks, then it will go right back to normal. Forget about it in the postseason.

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    I don’t believe it for one second. We’ll see an uptick in calls for the first few weeks, then it will go right back to normal. Forget about it in the postseason.

    I tend to agree.

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    Which NHL GM is in the worst spot.

    1. Sabres dealing with Eichel situation

    2. Sharks dealing with Evander Kane situation

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    I’ll go with Wilson in San Jose. Buffalo can still trade Eichel and get an expected decent return, but who would trade for Kane at this point.

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    Which NHL GM is in the worst spot.

    1. Sabres dealing with Eichel situation

    2. Sharks dealing with Evander Kane situation

    I’d say Buffalo’s GM. He has to win the trade of his best player and Buffalo isn’t afraid to fire anyone. Wilson has a chance to get out of a contract he likely regrets and he’s seemingly GM for life in San Jose no matter what moves he makes.

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    I was only looking at it from a trade perspective, Had not really thought about Wilson in San Jose being able to possibly terminate Kane’s contract, that would be the possible outcome for the Sharks.

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